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The Quran.....An-Nisa 34 instructs a man to beat his wife .....Pathetic

 
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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Forsake them in bed (Sex Starve them !)

that part you did not read !


sweet_kissbeauty


If that does not work them spank them ( Give them Some sadomasoquism & bondage )

You must translate correctly the real meaning of the scripture ...

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And so does the "Holy Bible" in the Book of Deuteronomy, Chapter 13:



13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.




So???
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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
 Quoting: Simple_Man


its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.


sorry op but your attemp to attack islam FAILED!!!
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Okay i am not a believer in Christ nor Muhammed, nor God or Allah.
But i respect people's beliefs!!

There is only one thing that i think i can remember from a few years ago when a collegue of mine and i spoke of differnt beliefs and the common things between them.
And that is that not the Quran but the Soennah (might be misspelled .. in that case not offense to Moslims!) tells men that they have the right to beat up their woman.
He told me that in the Quran there are no such phrases about the fact men are above women.

And i have high regard of my collegue, he was (and still is) a man who is highly respected in his community and was very educated in Quran studies!
And still he was no !@#$ Moslim as a lot of people call belivers of Allah, in my opinion purely out of arrogance of ignorance.

Everybody has the right to his or her beliefs, regardsless who the person is or what belief it is.

Also was/is this collegue strongly against any moslimextremistic bullshit. He called it poison to the true meaning of the Quran.
And do not forget where it comes from and how (un)developped those countries in that area are, even now in 2012.

the west (and asia) has developed, the middle east has not!!
Still a sandbox with little means for people to develope.
So religion is still as it was a 1000 years ago.

understand eachothers roots, culture, situation and origions of beliefs before you speak out!

i respect moslims, christians, jews, catholics, atheists, and so on and so on.
We all are human! we all share the same DNA.
Do not forget that.

After the war of skincolor and the war of religion , what is going to be next?
hair color, language, sexe, sexualinterest, left or right handedness ???

Cut it out!!!

and to return to topic...
can a moslim please check my statement?
(not quran but soennah speaks about hitting women)

and the fact that the soennah is wrongfully used to control the masses in name of Allah and the holy quran.

Religion is the origin of controlling the masses, like politics and laws. In there you find it's strengths and it's weaknesses.
Strength when uses in respect and love
Weakness when used in power/control hunger and suppression

I for that do not believe, i know for certain!
I'm a Buddhist.
Respect to ya all ... yes all!!
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Beat your meat not your wife

And you will have a happy life.
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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
 Quoting: Simple_Man


its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.


sorry op but your attemp to attack islam FAILED!!!
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lol op you got OWNED!

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amerika wouldnt suck balls if all women got the strikes

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Have you ever read Ecclesiastes? Is that not just as pathetic?
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Look at you all, a bunch of half educated, morally screwed indoctrinated frothing waste of matter.

Live and let Live, and STFU
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are you a mossad operative



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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
 Quoting: Simple_Man
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And so does the "Holy Bible" in the Book of Deuteronomy, Chapter 13:



13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.




So???
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Sooo?? You do this to those heathens!!!
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It's hardly beating, more like spanking.

Some of you American men could take some lessons. ohyeah
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What say ye Muslims?

You agree with Muhammad ? ....you think it's ok to strike your woman?
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they are shrugging their shoulders and asking "so, what's wrong with that?" to islam a man is not a man unless he beats his wife and his children. a man is not a man unless he preserves his honor by killing them when they need it.

i was reading a blog yesterday about an 87 year old woman who was savagely beaten by a "north african" immigant group. they were torturing a puppy and she tried to stop it, so the rabid north africans turned on her and beat her around her genitals. i think psychologists would agree that muslims hate women, but i think it is more that they fear women and puppies.

87 years old woman + defenseless puppy + north african psychos = death for the puppy and severe trauma for the poor elderly woman.

this is the filth that we are importanting to western nations. this is the ideology that is embraced by leftists now.
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Look at you all, a bunch of half educated, morally screwed indoctrinated frothing waste of matter.

Live and let Live, and STFU
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hey, isn't there some elderly woman who needs a beating somewhere? why waste you time here when there is blood to let somewhere else?
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Yes many woman are fallen angels..

But it is still not OK to hit your wife

A guy who beats his wife or his kids is a freak

So all you freaks out there... FUCK YOU!
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This was talked about a few months back...again. I said before if I was a woman I would much rather be beat than put to death as stated in the bible...

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!

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Look at you all, a bunch of half educated, morally screwed indoctrinated frothing waste of matter.

Live and let Live, and STFU
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I do so agree with you on this.
Truely i admit i know little to nothing about the Quran or the beliefs of muslims.
But that does not stop me from being respectfull to them!

It's so redneck to kill what you do not understand or what's diffrent from you ...

Such dumb American bullshit talk

Use your brain, darwin/mother nature/god/allah/jaweh/ and so on did not give a brain to you for not using it!!!!

respect to ya all
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And so does the "Holy Bible" in the Book of Deuteronomy, Chapter 13:



13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.




So???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27673169

Sooo?? You do this to those heathens!!!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2086945


there is a difference, neither christians nor jews follow the bible or make the law of the land as mudslimes follow the koran to this very day.
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In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

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What say ye Muslims?

You agree with Muhammad ? ....you think it's ok to strike your woman?
 Quoting: Simple_Man


they are shrugging their shoulders and asking "so, what's wrong with that?" to islam a man is not a man unless he beats his wife and his children. a man is not a man unless he preserves his honor by killing them when they need it.

i was reading a blog yesterday about an 87 year old woman who was savagely beaten by a "north african" immigant group. they were torturing a puppy and she tried to stop it, so the rabid north africans turned on her and beat her around her genitals. i think psychologists would agree that muslims hate women, but i think it is more that they fear women and puppies.

87 years old woman + defenseless puppy + north african psychos = death for the puppy and severe trauma for the poor elderly woman.

this is the filth that we are importanting to western nations. this is the ideology that is embraced by leftists now.
 Quoting: davvi


I agree to that, any person who kills a puppy and beat up a 87 year old lady needs to be executed and that immediately
Go home to your useless countries and beat up your cats and dogs if anybody is left there
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Look at you all, a bunch of half educated, morally screwed indoctrinated frothing waste of matter.

Live and let Live, and STFU
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5373157


I do so agree with you on this.
Truely i admit i know little to nothing about the Quran or the beliefs of muslims.
But that does not stop me from being respectfull to them!

It's so redneck to kill what you do not understand or what's diffrent from you ...

Such dumb American bullshit talk

Use your brain, darwin/mother nature/god/allah/jaweh/ and so on did not give a brain to you for not using it!!!!

respect to ya all
 Quoting: Some Flying Dutchman 27213123


ha ha ha

so i guess you have never had a dog with you

These fucking assholes is so afraid of a puppy they would kick it if you turned your back to them

And we should accept this...??

You are a traitor to your country!
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More than likely, such behavior was normal with Mohammeds tribe, so it was simply incorporated into the cult of Islam. His "god" who inspired him to "create" Islam really hated/hates women. From way back.
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The Holy Quran says that God created women as "jewels of creation" for men to love and cherish.

'Nuff said.OP cannot know more than God and that's the truth.

Being a woman, I cannot pretend that I've never met a woman that was so awful or/deserving of beating. In fact, I strongly dislike what the so-called "modern, capitalist society" has done to (once) a magnificent being that is a woman.

I long for the times when women were not s*uts, competitive, cold and evil bitches that bring men down and insanly crazed kids up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24890034


i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
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What say ye Muslims?

You agree with Muhammad ? ....you think it's ok to strike your woman?
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they are shrugging their shoulders and asking "so, what's wrong with that?" to islam a man is not a man unless he beats his wife and his children. a man is not a man unless he preserves his honor by killing them when they need it.

i was reading a blog yesterday about an 87 year old woman who was savagely beaten by a "north african" immigant group. they were torturing a puppy and she tried to stop it, so the rabid north africans turned on her and beat her around her genitals. i think psychologists would agree that muslims hate women, but i think it is more that they fear women and puppies.

87 years old woman + defenseless puppy + north african psychos = death for the puppy and severe trauma for the poor elderly woman.

this is the filth that we are importanting to western nations. this is the ideology that is embraced by leftists now.
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I agree to that, any person who kills a puppy and beat up a 87 year old lady needs to be executed and that immediately
Go home to your useless countries and beat up your cats and dogs if anybody is left there
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in spain there has been a rash of dog mutilations and poisonings. they have traced it back to muslim immigrants. it is in 'holy koran' that dogs are filthy, so once again the muslim psychos are imposing their koran and sharia on the host country.

maybe when western europe's love of their pets is threatened they will wake up and realize the infection?
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Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law.

I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge
with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual
lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly
states it to be an abomination. ... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of
God's Law and how to follow them.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They
claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A
friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
The passage clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated
to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27.
How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we
just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable
expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan,

Anonymous


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pure genius
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yes, i too think its pathetic to beat a woman, jungle law..

but its pathetic too:

your ignorance about others culture;

your ignorance about others religion;

your ignorance about the world you live in;

do you really think you are the center of the universe?? or ocidental culture is the only one in the whole earth?? and the only right one? grow up, little bitch... learn to live with differences, bastards like you love to make war

btw, i bet youre a gay, and your asshole is bruised by other man big dick.. if youre not, soon will be.. and i will love when those muslims behead you
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OP.. You find beating a mans wife pathetic.. But yet you have no balls to post how the Quran tells them to kill all non-believers.. wow.. brain washing at its best
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The bible says to beat your kids.

Same shit, hypocrites.
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The Holy Quran says that God created women as "jewels of creation" for men to love and cherish.

'Nuff said.OP cannot know more than God and that's the truth.

Being a woman, I cannot pretend that I've never met a woman that was so awful or/deserving of beating. In fact, I strongly dislike what the so-called "modern, capitalist society" has done to (once) a magnificent being that is a woman.

I long for the times when women were not s*uts, competitive, cold and evil bitches that bring men down and insanly crazed kids up.
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i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.

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