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The Quran.....An-Nisa 34 instructs a man to beat his wife .....Pathetic

 
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What happens if two lesbian Muslims get married??? Do they get to beat each other constantly?
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The Holy Quran says that God created women as "jewels of creation" for men to love and cherish.

'Nuff said.OP cannot know more than God and that's the truth.

Being a woman, I cannot pretend that I've never met a woman that was so awful or/deserving of beating. In fact, I strongly dislike what the so-called "modern, capitalist society" has done to (once) a magnificent being that is a woman.

I long for the times when women were not s*uts, competitive, cold and evil bitches that bring men down and insanly crazed kids up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24890034


i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


You can argue about the translation all day, but I'll just go with what the Muslims do... Beat their wives.
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The bible says to beat your kids.

Same shit, hypocrites.
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Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
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What say ye Muslims?

You agree with Muhammad ? ....you think it's ok to strike your woman?
 Quoting: Simple_Man


they are shrugging their shoulders and asking "so, what's wrong with that?" to islam a man is not a man unless he beats his wife and his children. a man is not a man unless he preserves his honor by killing them when they need it.

i was reading a blog yesterday about an 87 year old woman who was savagely beaten by a "north african" immigant group. they were torturing a puppy and she tried to stop it, so the rabid north africans turned on her and beat her around her genitals. i think psychologists would agree that muslims hate women, but i think it is more that they fear women and puppies.

87 years old woman + defenseless puppy + north african psychos = death for the puppy and severe trauma for the poor elderly woman.

this is the filth that we are importanting to western nations. this is the ideology that is embraced by leftists now.
 Quoting: davvi


Haha, and that crap doesn't happen in Western countries?
Don't try and blame Islam for certain Muslims stupidity.

Going by your logic, All Catholics are paedophilic perverts that like to f*ck little kids. It IS NOT true however many Catholic popes have been found guilty (and jailed) for raping young kids in church.

These are select group of idiots that clearly do not follow their religion. Your ignorance is beyond comprehensible...
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What happens if two lesbian Muslims get married??? Do they get to beat each other constantly?
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No they get stoned to death before they have time to say yes to each other...
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so how many Muslims beat their wives that you know of?
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The bible says to beat your kids.

Same shit, hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28206753


Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


I'm a Muslim, I love dogs.

Am I an 'Animal' person?
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The Holy Quran says that God created women as "jewels of creation" for men to love and cherish.

'Nuff said.OP cannot know more than God and that's the truth.

Being a woman, I cannot pretend that I've never met a woman that was so awful or/deserving of beating. In fact, I strongly dislike what the so-called "modern, capitalist society" has done to (once) a magnificent being that is a woman.

I long for the times when women were not s*uts, competitive, cold and evil bitches that bring men down and insanly crazed kids up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24890034


i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


what are you telling me this for? shouldn't you you be telling your fellow mudslimes? you can quote the koran to me all you would like, however i am not the problem and the savage is....

now it is the "noble quran?" lolol, you crack me up, there is nothing "noble" about it... and to say this:

"its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic."

someone should tell the savage arab to stop reading the koran in english, lolol, it makes them crazy.
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What say ye Muslims?

You agree with Muhammad ? ....you think it's ok to strike your woman?
 Quoting: Simple_Man


they are shrugging their shoulders and asking "so, what's wrong with that?" to islam a man is not a man unless he beats his wife and his children. a man is not a man unless he preserves his honor by killing them when they need it.

i was reading a blog yesterday about an 87 year old woman who was savagely beaten by a "north african" immigant group. they were torturing a puppy and she tried to stop it, so the rabid north africans turned on her and beat her around her genitals. i think psychologists would agree that muslims hate women, but i think it is more that they fear women and puppies.

87 years old woman + defenseless puppy + north african psychos = death for the puppy and severe trauma for the poor elderly woman.

this is the filth that we are importanting to western nations. this is the ideology that is embraced by leftists now.
 Quoting: davvi


Haha, and that crap doesn't happen in Western countries?
Don't try and blame Islam for certain Muslims stupidity.

Going by your logic, All Catholics are paedophilic perverts that like to f*ck little kids. It IS NOT true however many Catholic popes have been found guilty (and jailed) for raping young kids in church.

These are select group of idiots that clearly do not follow their religion. Your ignorance is beyond comprehensible...
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They hate my dog 9 out of 10 of them, even its the most harmless dog, they go to the other sidewalk to pass it,

You are a traitor

Fuck U!
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Re: The Quran.....An-Nisa 34 instructs a man to beat his wife .....Pathetic
Want to know WHY the Muslim religon has gained popularity even in the west? Simple - MEN ARE TIRED OF WOMENS SHIT!!!

Even men who do not believe in 'beating' a woman can be driven to madnes by 'empowered' western women and when presented with an alternative which dominates and puts women down - will take that vs allowing an 'empowered to call the cops and destroy a mans life through lies domestic injunction' bullcrap.

Bottom line is - the more women pull their crap to destroy - the more they push a man to fight back. The Muslim religon allowed for it and so spreads.

Fuk the whiners!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24238594


There's another side to this.

Here, in Egypt, there are scads of western women who have married Muslim Egyptian men. Almost all of them that I have met converted, then started looking for a Muslim husband.

Why?

Well, because it's his job to provide. Technically, in Islam, the wife's only duty is to make herself sexually available. She doesn't have to cook; he can hire someone to cook or do it himself. She doesn't have to clean; he can hire someone to clean or do it himself. She doesn't even have to nurse the babies; he can have that hired out, too.

So, Miss Western Convert marries Mr. Muslim and they set up house. He goes out and works, frequently two jobs, while she takes care of the home and the babies. He cannot and does not dare tell her to go get a job. If she does choose to work, her money is her own to do with as she likes - and since it's his duty to support the household, she's not throwing for a car payment or rent or even groceries with her salary.

Believe it or not, there are women out there who prefer traditional roles and would rather take care of their home and family. Islam guarantees they will have just that.

Another thing to think about is this: a Muslim husband who works day and night beats getting cut off of government handouts. I've seen welfare queens happily bag a Muslim husband and haul him back home.

I'm not saying your opinion doesn't have value, because it does, but I'm just giving you something else to think about.
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What happens if two lesbian Muslims get married??? Do they get to beat each other constantly?
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there are no gays in islam, they are killed.
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The Holy Quran says that God created women as "jewels of creation" for men to love and cherish.

'Nuff said.OP cannot know more than God and that's the truth.

Being a woman, I cannot pretend that I've never met a woman that was so awful or/deserving of beating. In fact, I strongly dislike what the so-called "modern, capitalist society" has done to (once) a magnificent being that is a woman.

I long for the times when women were not s*uts, competitive, cold and evil bitches that bring men down and insanly crazed kids up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24890034


i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


You can argue about the translation all day, but I'll just go with what the Muslims do... Beat their wives.
 Quoting: Hitokiri


you have to be joking yes? there is more domestic abuse in western countries than in any muslim country. its rife here in the uk and america.

you always seem to attack muslims but every single thing you accuse them of, you are more guilty yourselves...look up the word HIPOCRASY!!!

"ye without sin cast the first stone"
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What say ye Muslims?

You agree with Muhammad ? ....you think it's ok to strike your woman?
 Quoting: Simple_Man


dude , you have problems to read right ?

either you are trolling very lowly either you lack of neurones.

First, it's not about agreeing with Muhammad (asws), it is the word of God, REVEALED to Muhammad (asws) through Angel Gabriel.
If you have any trouble with that verse , refer to God and no one else than God, because it all comes from him.
If you dont think that Quran comes from God, then you are just trolling and search to pick a fight just to spread hate.

Second, you take the last mean to bring back a wife to reason (arrogance) as if it was the first mean. That is being false and selective.

1) The first mean is [first] advise them

if the first failed you have to change to :

2) The second mean is "[then if they persist], forsake them in bed"

if the first and second mean failed you have to change to :

3) The third mean is "[finally], strike them."

However if by using any of these means in the right order "they obey you [once more], seek no means against them." you dont have usually to end to strike them. A good hearted woman would stop after "advices" and "no sex in bed" as warnings before the last solution "reason by force".


so what is your problem dude, trolling like a braindead, you are proud of it ? iamwith

and that shit is pinned ? seriously ?

just look at the world and these days fake "womens", behaving like whores and bitches who gives no shit about anything than them,
look at the divorce rate (going higher) and mariage rate (going lower)
look at how many weak husbands go to police because their wife is beathing them , seriously, you have to be in 2012 to see such epic bullshit.
look at those FEMEN idiots protesting naked in the streets..you got to be in 2012 to see that bullshit.

when you see womens behaving this way, you know for sure that end

go troll somewhere else moron.
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Re: The Quran.....An-Nisa 34 instructs a man to beat his wife .....Pathetic
The bible says to beat your kids.

Same shit, hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28206753


Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


The Bible and the Quran are VERY similar.

This is one example.

Just a post for all the Christian hypocrites in here.

Their Bible is just as bloody, just as hateful and just as violent...maybe worse.
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The bible says to beat your kids.

Same shit, hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28206753


Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


I'm a Muslim, I love dogs.

Am I an 'Animal' person?
 Quoting: Botanator


No but my genes were here first and I have to put up with your attitudes towards my dog...

I would not assume any person surviving in Arabia if they would marry your woman and beat up your camels

Its a disgrace to our culture, Dogs have a pure soul not like indoctrinated religious fools
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Want to know WHY the Muslim religon has gained popularity even in the west? Simple - MEN ARE TIRED OF WOMENS SHIT!!!

Even men who do not believe in 'beating' a woman can be driven to madnes by 'empowered' western women and when presented with an alternative which dominates and puts women down - will take that vs allowing an 'empowered to call the cops and destroy a mans life through lies domestic injunction' bullcrap.

Bottom line is - the more women pull their crap to destroy - the more they push a man to fight back. The Muslim religon allowed for it and so spreads.

Fuk the whiners!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24238594


amen, you got the idea, and striking woman is the last mean of the 3 means to shut down the arrogance of wife.
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Bibletards aren't gonna touch this thread. FACT!
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you have to be joking yes? there is more reported domestic abuse in western countries than in any muslim country. its rife here in the uk and america.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


Fixed that for ya.

you always seem to attack muslims but every single thing you accuse them of, you are more guilty yourselves...look up the word HIPOCRASY!!!
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Hypocracy? My argument to that is just three words: Hymen Reconstruction Surgery.
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i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


You can argue about the translation all day, but I'll just go with what the Muslims do... Beat their wives.
 Quoting: Hitokiri


you have to be joking yes? there is more domestic abuse in western countries than in any muslim country. its rife here in the uk and america.

you always seem to attack muslims but every single thing you accuse them of, you are more guilty yourselves...look up the word HIPOCRASY!!!

"ye without sin cast the first stone"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


here's the difference, asswipe, domestic abuse in western nations is rarely done in the name of religion where everything you do is in the name and according to the guidelines set in the koran.

i tried and tried to look up the word HIPOCRASY, it doesn't exist. did you mean hipocrisy? lol moran
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The bible says to beat your kids.

Same shit, hypocrites.
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Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
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I'm a Muslim, I love dogs.

Am I an 'Animal' person?
 Quoting: Botanator


No but my genes were here first and I have to put up with your attitudes towards my dog...

I would not assume any person surviving in Arabia if they would marry your woman and beat up your camels

Its a disgrace to our culture, Dogs have a pure soul not like indoctrinated religious fools
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Have you made a visit to an Arab country before?
Or any Islamic country?

I promise you, there are dogs. Many many, many Muslims have dogs in the Arab/Islamic world. It's the Western Muslims that (for some bizarre reason) are scared of dogs.

I know I'll get a dog sooner or later (love cats too).
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i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


You can argue about the translation all day, but I'll just go with what the Muslims do... Beat their wives.
 Quoting: Hitokiri


you have to be joking yes? there is more domestic abuse in western countries than in any muslim country. its rife here in the uk and america.

you always seem to attack muslims but every single thing you accuse them of, you are more guilty yourselves...look up the word HIPOCRASY!!!

"ye without sin cast the first stone"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
9/10 gang rapes are done be Arab people
its just that in your country there is no justice at all no kind of free speech and absolutely no real statistical data
Primitive people with a criminal primitive mindset
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Deuteronomy 22:28

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver.
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Okay i missed the part of mistreating animals and elderly.
But any misbehavior by a human being (man/woman/child) towards any living thing (mankind/animals/other creatures of nature/living organisms like plants) is an cancercell to mankind.

There is no respect or integrity found in misbehavior, only the proof of a weak sickening failure of the wonder called new born baby.
I think that it is never the plan for parents, two loved ones, to create a child from their love for eachother
To let this child grow up to a human cancer cell that mistreats living things.
And for sure not to let it beat children, women, elderly or animals.
I think that parents should consider this!

Teach respect!
Teach love!
Teach strength does not come out of barbarism
teach strength is not a measure that can be visualised by brutal force but comes from deep inside ...
your soul!

teach responsibility
teach compassion
teach understanding comes from approaching and investigation of that what one does not understand or that what's new.

I am 6"2, pretty well build with strong limbs and back.
I am strong in mind, body and soul
i know my responsibility, because i am the tall strong one in my piece of sociaty.
i help , protect, guard, assist and lovingly aid those who are not like me.
i'm not wise but hope to be someday
but i use my brain, muscles and soul (telling right from wrong)
i'm not perfect, but far from it!!!
but i am a human being like you, with good and bad things about me...
but if i can be what my parents taught me to be and hoped me to be....

Why the fuck can't you!

if somebody de-rails, takes a bad step in life or misbehaves..

kill him or help him to see the light?
i say help, so he too can help others.
and maybe someday you need him...
what i you killed him ... the his won't be there for you!!!

i do not accept the hitting of women, childeren, kicking animals or assaulting elderly.

by force of my strength i will teach you that there is allways a bigger fish ... me!
yess the lesson wil hurt!
then afterwards we will sit down with thee or coffee.
And i will tell you what went wrong, and then help you how to do good in the future...
do not turn a blind eye was it not??

i am not arrogant but if i can do good while being a human with mistakes (oh boy did make em) and with a lot to learn,

Why can you not ???

We were born by love, raised in love, so why not live in love?

And for those poor souls who did not receive love ... it's damned right time we all start giving it to them.

love is shared and not owned!
wisdom,friendship,respect,pleasure alike!!

with respect!
tell , teach misbehaving idiots, do not kill them or treat them like they did so.
Be diffrent!
dare to be so.

Basically, if you want to change the world, change yourself first.

i start with the man in the mirror ... and you??
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The Holy Quran says that God created women as "jewels of creation" for men to love and cherish.

'Nuff said.OP cannot know more than God and that's the truth.

Being a woman, I cannot pretend that I've never met a woman that was so awful or/deserving of beating. In fact, I strongly dislike what the so-called "modern, capitalist society" has done to (once) a magnificent being that is a woman.

I long for the times when women were not s*uts, competitive, cold and evil bitches that bring men down and insanly crazed kids up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24890034


i have no doubt that 'god' said that. it is just a shame that mohammad and allah contradict Him. yea, yea i know allah is another word for god, but it is not THE GOD.

mohammad invented his own psycho god to mold in his own image and condone his weird desires....

....and you are going to blame the modern capitalist society for islamics looney behavior? lolol.
 Quoting: davvi


i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


what are you telling me this for? shouldn't you you be telling your fellow mudslimes? you can quote the koran to me all you would like, however i am not the problem and the savage is....

now it is the "noble quran?" lolol, you crack me up, there is nothing "noble" about it... and to say this:

"its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic."

someone should tell the savage arab to stop reading the koran in english, lolol, it makes them crazy.
 Quoting: davvi


man i can refute every single one of your allegations against the NOBLE quran.

you dont have a clue what you are talking about, i know the bible inside out and the quran.

anyone can copy and paste verses out of context, but when looked at with an unbaised eye, its clear to see the Quran is the greatest book ever to be seen on earth.

of course because you have been so brainwashed by the 'TEEVEE' you cant see past your unfounded hatred, which is a shame.
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i know you're a bit challenged in the brain department and must of missed my post so i will post again for yoru benefit:

muhammad clearly forbade hitting women

its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


You can argue about the translation all day, but I'll just go with what the Muslims do... Beat their wives.
 Quoting: Hitokiri


you have to be joking yes? there is more domestic abuse in western countries than in any muslim country. its rife here in the uk and america.

you always seem to attack muslims but every single thing you accuse them of, you are more guilty yourselves...look up the word HIPOCRASY!!!

"ye without sin cast the first stone"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11722476


here's the difference, asswipe, domestic abuse in western nations is rarely done in the name of religion where everything you do is in the name and according to the guidelines set in the koran.

i tried and tried to look up the word HIPOCRASY, it doesn't exist. did you mean hipocrisy? lol moran
 Quoting: davvi


Don't you BOTH mean Hypocrisy?
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Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


I'm a Muslim, I love dogs.

Am I an 'Animal' person?
 Quoting: Botanator


No but my genes were here first and I have to put up with your attitudes towards my dog...

I would not assume any person surviving in Arabia if they would marry your woman and beat up your camels

Its a disgrace to our culture, Dogs have a pure soul not like indoctrinated religious fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


Have you made a visit to an Arab country before?
Or any Islamic country?

I promise you, there are dogs. Many many, many Muslims have dogs in the Arab/Islamic world. It's the Western Muslims that (for some bizarre reason) are scared of dogs.

I know I'll get a dog sooner or later (love cats too).
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Yes I have been to several

What did i see

Cats getting lured by some food only to get a bucket of water in the head and 5 grown up guys laughing and kicking it.

Dogs so miserable and wild they are dangerous.

Roadkills in the side not getting collected

Cats so thin there is only hair and eyes left

They don't keep them as pets rather they have them to eat the rats and the garbage

The only souls that are pure in these places are the animal souls

They treat their animals like shit!
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Who the fuck said anything about the bible, I am tired of Muslim behavior but I am not a religious person

I just know how much these animal people hate my dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


I'm a Muslim, I love dogs.

Am I an 'Animal' person?
 Quoting: Botanator


No but my genes were here first and I have to put up with your attitudes towards my dog...

I would not assume any person surviving in Arabia if they would marry your woman and beat up your camels

Its a disgrace to our culture, Dogs have a pure soul not like indoctrinated religious fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


Have you made a visit to an Arab country before?
Or any Islamic country?

I promise you, there are dogs. Many many, many Muslims have dogs in the Arab/Islamic world. It's the Western Muslims that (for some bizarre reason) are scared of dogs.

I know I'll get a dog sooner or later (love cats too).
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of course you have dogs, you eat them. just ask barack obama.

please don't get a dog, they are sweet and loving to humans and created to be man's/woman's best friend. you are not worthy.
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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
 Quoting: Simple_Man


its actually a wrong translation that has been adopted. the quran is not the quran in english, it is only the quran in arabic.

the words actually read "then seperate from/leave them" not "then beat them". the quran uses the exact same word in the same chapter to prove the word means to 'seperat/go away/leave'in verse 94 or surah nisa.

the prophet muhammad forbade beating wives in no uncertain terms as follows.

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: "I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2138)"



now also the quran commands men to treat with with kindness and equity as follows:

"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"


and finally this clears it all up from the quran:

"And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran 30:21)"


so in summary islam forbids beating women in anyway shape or form.


sorry op but your attemp to attack islam FAILED!!!
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thanks for the light brought on that "beating" word translation .

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OMG their culture is different than the US so it must be evil!

Let's spend the last resources of a dying empire 'educating' them, to hell with our own infrastructure, homicide rate, extremely high rate of rapes etc. We are perfect and it's these people stuck in the Middle Ages we need to fix.

Cuz that's what it is. The same old "Us good them bad" idiocy wrapped up in new politically correct clothes, and that's what's truly pathetic. Who gives a fuck if Muslims beat their women? As long as they aren't beating mine, not me. People beat women here. Do we bomb them?
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I'm a Muslim, I love dogs.

Am I an 'Animal' person?
 Quoting: Botanator


No but my genes were here first and I have to put up with your attitudes towards my dog...

I would not assume any person surviving in Arabia if they would marry your woman and beat up your camels

Its a disgrace to our culture, Dogs have a pure soul not like indoctrinated religious fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17931651


Have you made a visit to an Arab country before?
Or any Islamic country?

I promise you, there are dogs. Many many, many Muslims have dogs in the Arab/Islamic world. It's the Western Muslims that (for some bizarre reason) are scared of dogs.

I know I'll get a dog sooner or later (love cats too).
 Quoting: Botanator


of course you have dogs, you eat them. just ask barack obama.

please don't get a dog, they are sweet and loving to humans and created to be man's/woman's best friend. you are not worthy.
 Quoting: davvi


Your replies are rather funny.
No logic behind it, just stupid, ill written, quite funny, replies.

Please do continue, or is your brain not capable of that?

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