Israel will win. God is with them. Gaza is Israels territory from way back

the Palestinian in Gaza are neither weak or pathetic. Emboldened by the hatred spewed by Hamas and other anti isreal i grouups, they are also funded and armed by Syria and Iran, who are in turn funded and armed by Russia and China.

bs.. they are just poor helpless oppressed peoples who really are nothing to create any drama over.. i dont know about you americans but the rest of us in the world dont give a shit about the conflict over their.. sure their are helpless people being terorrized by an evil state but isnt that the case where ever their is a problem in the world at the moment.. what ever man you all wanna make wars and kill in the name of your greed then go ahead but dont go labeling god in on your evils cause cause is not down with any of that shit..

"God is with them"?


"No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also." 1 John 2:23

The last time that I checked, the nation state in Palestine is largely of the Jewish religion - orthodox, Kabalists, secular, reformed etc - ALL of which deny the Son. In which case, your belief that God is "with them" is erroneous - they do not have the Father because they disobey God's will which is to believe in His Son.

Additionally, how many times are we warned to not put our faith and trust in Egypt, specifically in it's horses and chariots? The modern nation calling itself Israel has done exactly that - it's armed to the teeth militarily and with a nuclear arsenal. It's got the western nation's militaries to fight for it. What does this tell you? It has chosen Egypt. What happened in Jeremiah to the contingent that refused to go into Babylon and instead chose to go to Egypt? Nearly all were killed.

Is Our Father not perfectly capable of keeping them safe if they instead chose His path of peace and mercy and justice? Of course He is, but they reject Him. The millions in that land follow their blinded leaders who themselves reject the Son, and therefore cannot see that they are being led to the pit.

That land was given to them as long as they obeyed. And yet, somehow they have a "right" to it whilst still in a state of rebellion and disobedience? As their leaders flash the same hand signs as those of Hamas and Iran, yet the ordinary blinded citizens of those nations can't see it?

you know this conflict was caused by Hamas repeatedly firing missles into Israel right ?

What would Australia do if New Zealand started firing 50 missilies a day over to Sydney/Australia ?

Gaza belongs to Israel just as much most of Austria belongs to Slovenia. Which, of course, is more than silly.

About 1500 years ago the mentioned territory mostly belonged to Slavic tribes but was lost to Germans-Bavarians.

So, on what basis do the Jews claim the land which was lost long, long time ago? Just because they "used" to live there?
Bullcrap.

There comes a time when agreement has to be reached. But it would seem Israel is not willing to make any concessions. When they were about to come to an agreement, they themselves assassinated their own prime minister to prevent the deal. That is how much Israel desires peace.

lol


for starters, the israel you see today is not the same israel of the bible.

Its an abomination, created by the U.N

lol, god is with israel....you crack me off...

Read your bible mate so you know what will happen in the future. The apple of Gods eye :)

Zechariah 12:10

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Are You GOD to Know ?

What if you are wrong ? and islam is given the power to cleanse the world in name og the ONLY GOD , as Alah and Yawe are same god , there is only one god ...

Man is the one who divides god ,by serving demons...

America & Israel Serve MAMMON ,god of money & greed , not the god of Israel , Islam & the world ..

For that they will be destroyed...

Read your bible and stop promoting false doctrine. Israel and filled every prophecy so far. UN is a tool just like you are a tool

correct! and thank you for that simple exammple. Ireal has historically been a a group of nomadic tribes. they have never had a country or borders unless they invaded a sovereign nation. they are leaches but were content to live in the land GIVEN to them after WWII until the contiual harrassment by Palestinians made the situation un-tenable.

Fucking religious freaks -- both Israelis and Gazans. Just think, if there was no religion, there'd be no fucking problem; everyone would just be living together in peace.

Poor children and animals who suffer at the hands of these religious fuckwads... tragic.

Religion has very little to do with it. Religion is just an excuse. The first thing the Jews did when they got their state in '48 was to take possession of all major water sources. There is always a material cause beneath. It has always been about resources.

Allah is strong ... he's playing rope-a-dope tactics, like Obama in the first presidential debate ...

From the almighty throne there are no fences facing.
As if God wants to see the destruction of any of his children.
The subject should read...Israel will win. Satan is with them!

and 3rd of all you prove that you cannot play the american game of golf.

you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground

it could be painful.

What you're saying is just brainwashed zionist propaganda, you can compare it with the brainwashed islamist propaganda, where suicide bombers are received by virgins when they reach "heaven".

God is only with those Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, ... who work non-violently for Peace. Its unthinkable, that God will side with atheist war criminals and murderers.

The more you follow your zionist misleaders in Israel, which really oppose God, the more you risk, that you'll lose everything ...

Ariel Sharon could definitively explain to you in detail, how he suffers and with who, God is siding ...

Peace


Distinguishing between atheist Zionism and Judaism

In the summer of 1982 there began a great savagery that caused the whole world to cry out in protest. The Israeli Army entered Lebanon in a sudden attack, and moved forward destroying every target that appeared before it. The Israelis surrounded the refugee camps, where Palestinians lived who had fled the Israeli occupation years before, and for two days used Lebanese Christian militias to slaughter innocent civilians. Within a few days, thousands of innocent people had been massacred.

This terrible Israeli terrorism outraged the whole world. The interesting thing, however, is that some of the protests came from jewish people, even Israeli jewish people. Professor Benjamin Cohen of Tel Aviv University penned a statement on June 6, 1982, saying:

I am writing to you while listening to a transistor that has just announced that 'we' are in the process of 'realizing our objectives' in Lebanon: to insure 'peace' for the residents of Galilee. These lies worthy of Goebbels make me mad. It is clear that this savage war, more barbaric than any of those preceding it, has nothing to do with the attempt in London or the security of Galilee ... jewish people, sons of Abraham ... jewish people, victims themselves of so much cruelty, how can they become so cruel? ... The greatest success of Zionism is the 'dejudaisation' of the jewish people. 1

Benjamin Cohen was not the only Israeli to oppose the Israeli occupation of Lebanon. Many Jewish intellectuals living in Israel condemned the savagery carried out by their own state.

This attitude was not restricted to the occupation of Lebanon. Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians, its insistence on its policy of occupation, and its links with the semi-fascist administrations in the former racist regime in South Africa had been criticized for many years by many prominent intellectuals in Israel. This Jewish criticism was aimed not just at the policies of Israel, but also at atheist Zionism, its official ideology.

This situation is the expression of a very important truth: Israel’s policy of occupation and state terrorism from 1967 up to the present stems from the ideology of atheist Zionism, and many jewish people in the world are opposed to it.

For Muslims, therefore, the concepts that should be criticized are not Judaism or the Jewish race, but Godless Zionism. In the same way that an anti-Nazi can have no hatred for the German people, so he can have none for the Jewish race because he opposes atheist Zionism.

The Racist Roots of Atheist Zionism

After the jewish people were expelled from Jerusalem in 70 AD, they began to spread to different parts of the world. During this period of the ‘diaspora,’ which lasted up to the 19th century, the vast majority of jewish people saw themselves as a religious group. Over time, most jewish people adopted the religion of the countries they lived in. jewish people in Germany, for example, began to speak German, and those in Britain, English. Hebrew was left as a sacred language used only in prayers and religious texts. When certain social restrictions on jewish people in European countries were lifted in the 19th century, jewish people began to assimilate with the societies they were living in. Most jewish people saw themselves as a ‘religious community,’ not as a ‘race’ or ‘nation.’ They described themselves as ‘Jewish Germans,’ ‘Jewish Britons,’ or ‘Jewish Americans.’

However, there was a huge rise in racism all over the world in the 19th century. Racist ideas, influenced in particular by Darwin’s theory of evolution, grew enormously and found many supporters particularly in Western societies. Atheist Zionism was the effect this racist storm had among the jewish people.


There are two varieties of Zionism today. The first of these is the Zionist conception of the devout Jewish people, who wish to live in peace and security in Israel alongside Muslims, seeking peace and wishing to worship in the lands of their forefathers and engage in business. In that sense, Muslims support Zionism. We would fully back the devout Jewish people living in peace and security in their own lands, remembering God, worshipping in their synagogues and engaging in science and trade in their own land.

The Zionist belief held by a devout Jew and based on the Torah does not in any way conflict with the Qur’an. The jewish people’ living in that region is indicated in the Qur’an, in which it is revealed that God has settled the Children of Israel on it:

Remember when Moses said to his people, “My people! Remember God’s blessing to you when He appointed prophets among you and appointed kings for you, and gave you what He had not given to anyone else in all the worlds! My people! Enter the Holy Land which God has ordained for you. Do not turn back in your tracks and so become transformed into losers.” (Surat al-Ma’ida: 20-21)

It is the “irreligious, Godless Zionism” that we as Muslims condemn and regard as a threat. These Godless Zionists, who do not defend the existence and oneness of God, but, on the contrary, encourage a Darwinist, materialist perspective and thus engage in irreligious propaganda, are also a threat to devout jewish people. Godless Zionism is today engaged in a struggle against peace, security and moral virtue, and constantly produces strife and chaos and the shedding of blood. Muslims and devout jewish people must join forces to oppose this Godless Zionism and encourage belief in God.

Judaism Is Not the Origin of Atheist Zionism

The jewish people who propagated the idea of Godless Zionism were people with very weak religious beliefs, most of whom were atheists. They saw Judaism as the name of a race, not as a community of belief. They suggested that the jewish people were a separate race from European nations, that it was impossible for them to live together and that it was essential they establish their own homeland. They did not rely on religious thinking when deciding where that homeland should be. Theodor Herzl, the founder of irreligious Zionism, once thought of Uganda, and this became known as the ‘Uganda Plan.’ The Zionists later decided on Palestine. The reason for this was Palestine was regarded as ‘the jewish people’ historic homeland’ rather than for any religious significance it had for them.

The atheist Zionists made great efforts to get other jewish people to accept these non-religious ideas. In fact, the World Zionist Organization that was set up for this purpose undertook vast propaganda work in all countries with Jewish populations, and suggested that jewish people could not live peacefully with other nations and that they were a separate ‘race,’ for which reason they had to go and settle in Palestine. Most Jewish communities ignored these calls.

In this way, atheist Zionism entered world politics as a racist ideology which maintained that jewish people should not live with other nations. First of all, this mistaken idea created grave problems for and pressure on jewish people living in the diaspora. Then for the millions of Muslims in the Middle East, it brought the Israeli policy of occupation and annexation, together with bloodshed, death, poverty and terror.

Many jewish people today criticize this atheist and radical form of Zionist  ideology. Rabbi Hirsch, one of the foremost Jewish men of religion, said, ‘Zionism wants to define the Jewish people as a national entity ... which is a heresy.’ 2

The famous French Muslim thinker Roger Garaudy wrote this on the subject:

The worst enemy of the prophetic Jewish faith is the nationalist, racist and colonialist logic of tribal Zionism, born of the nationalism, racism and colonialism of 19th century Europe. This logic …inspired all the colonialisms of the West and all its wars of one nationalism against another…There is no future or security for Israel and no peace in the Middle East unless Israel becomes "dezionized" and returns to the faith of Abraham, which is the spiritual, fraternal and common heritage of the three revealed religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. 3


[link to harunyahya.com]

So please explain Jordan then. The Hashemites are from Saudi Arabia and received a huge part of Palestine after the former Ottoman Empire was carved up. Why does nobody ever complain that Jordan is an illegal entity having also stolen land from the Pals? What business has the Saudi Hashemite king with part of Palestine or is maybe Jordan the real Palestine which all the Pals in Israel should call their homeland?

Clarity would also have to acknowledge that when Israel started to kill the men God sent to them they were removed off the land by Neb about 550BC and God never gave it back to them, even Rome was in power when Jesus walked the land and God had Rome disassemble the Temple.

BTW the 430 years in Egypt was long enough that the land was not theirs anymore. Does the verse below seem at all like God is on their side when the events are still some distance in the future.

Eze:39:23:
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity:
because they trespassed against me,
therefore hid I my face from them,
and gave them into the hand of their enemies:
so fell they all by the sword.
Eze:39:24:
According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them,
and hid my face from them.

Yeah, but they're not going to admit it.

"We used to be God's Chosen, but we fucked it up and ever since He has cursed us with calamity after calamity. We are, however the harbringers of the Apocalypse, which is the only reason our hokey little religion is still relevant at all."

I can't see them saying that on the TV.

Ryan, as usual with posts like yours, the God-hating anti-semites are coming out of the woodwork. They have little-to-no knowledge of scripture or biblical prophecy. They ignore history which points out that time and time again, despite Israel being attacked repeatedly while surrounded by hundreds of miles' worth of hate-filled muslims, Israel is always victorious. Israel always remains standing, due to divine providence -- i.e., God simply not allowing them to lose -- and the longstanding fact that Israel has much better warriors.

The Jew-haters can scream all they want. Their crazed rants can never drown out the truth you expressed: "God is with Israel."



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how rightful is the balfour declaration?

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israel is the new Goliath

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David is lying Israel

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GAZA WAS ALWAYS PALASTINE YOU FUCKING MORON,AND THESE ZIONIST ARE THE GERMAN JEWS OF THE BANKING CARTEL, IF YOU ARE GOING TO RESEARCH SOMTHING THEN DO IT PROPERLY,YEAH I AM A REAL JEW FROM THE TRUE LINE OF ABRAHAM.I LOVE ISRAEL BUT I WILL NOT LIE FOR THERE ZIONIST GOVENMEMT

iT WILL ALL BOIL DOWN TO BIOLOGICAL WARFARE

Learn to use the "shift" key.

Also, your spelling hasn't improved:

*Palestine
*something
*government

God given land?? Are you a special ed student, by any chance? Did you drop your helmet?? Last time I looked, God has issued no memo or addressed the people of the world.

Until he or she does, you will have to stop using that shit book as an excuse for genocide. The world court wont let you use it as a defense when the trials come... And they will come.

Those who think themselves above the rest are quickly trampled upon. Just ask Hitler.