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Message Subject Can We Be In the Tribulation Already?
Poster Handle ceawaves
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See it the opposite.. as the ones who believe in a rapture are not aware of the times we're in because they're still here..And leaves a lot of church people in the dark, so to speak. The rapture out part only started up in the last 100 or so years ago.
 Quoting: ceawaves

Who says "the ones who believe in a rapture are not aware of the times we're in"? We of all people are VERY aware of the times we're in. You seem to be pulling "facts" about us from thin air. You don't know what we believe, much less why. And NO, the "rapture out part" did NOT start up in the last 100 years; that's another "fact" pulled out of a hat.

Here is a list of many scholarly articles on the topic, for anyone who is willing to actually find out what we believe and why: [link to www.raptureme.com]

Kinda contradicts the whole pre-rapture theory.

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. Revelation 17:6

For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. Revelation 16:6
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100552

What contradiction to the pre-trib Rapture? You think it's the word "saints"? Do you people EVER read what pre-tribbers actually say? If you had, you'd know that 'saints' is NOT an exclusive term for church-age believers.

The topic here is whether or not we're in the Tribulation, not why you hate the pre-trib Rapture.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


So why didn't you answer the question???
What I meant was it was not a widely held belief until the last 100 or more years. What pre-tribbers actually say? What does the Bible actually say?
There's nothing about any Rapture in scripture..And unlike yourself I'm not the one basing a whole beleif on one word. Also there's no hate on or for the "pre-trib Rapture" belief. Actually it's much easier (imo) to believe in the Rapture. Just don't see any real firm or clear foundation actually based on it.
 
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