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Message Subject Can We Be In the Tribulation Already?
Poster Handle Keep2theCode
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So why didn't you answer the question???
 Quoting: ceawaves

I DID answer it, in my first comment: "What is going on in the world is "birth pangs", but the "birth" (the 7-year treaty) has not happened yet, so we are not in the Tribulation already."

What I meant was it was not a widely held belief until the last 100 or more years. What pre-tribbers actually say? What does the Bible actually say?
There's nothing about any Rapture in scripture..And unlike yourself I'm not the one basing a whole beleif on one word. Also there's no hate on or for the "pre-trib Rapture" belief. Actually it's much easier (imo) to believe in the Rapture. Just don't see any real firm or clear foundation actually based on it.
 Quoting: ceawaves

Not true, and if you don't care what pre-tribbers actually say, then STOP spreading lies about them!

We pre-tribbers ONLY get our belief from the Bible. Yes, it's in there; see the link I gave earlier. And since you can't be bothered to read what I believe, you have no right to claim that I "base my whole belief on one word". This double standard of yours is making it impossible to discuss the topic rationally.
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