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Breaking !!!!!! Hamas execute six people in the last half hour

 
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Canaan was the entire area of Syria, Jordan, Israel...

That area or people was referred to as Plesheth, meaning 'purple' probably, because the natives used a particular dye they attained from sea shells to dye clothing. Palestina is the greek variation of Plesheth. Plesheth could also have meant migratory and it's mentioned numerous times in the bible.
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WRONG !!!

Lawrence of Arabia invented Palestine !!!

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And you invented Canada !
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Most of the pepole Israel killed are not innocent, and don't forget that Hamas is hiding behind civies and shooting rockets on Israeli civies for 12 years now and for no reson!!!
What would you do?
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realise they are pissed at your illegal occupation of their land to start with.
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First of all we went out of Gaza about 10 years ago so it is not occupaid any more!
Second of all what do you mean "their land"? when there was ever a Palestinian state there?
The state of Judah was our state until the Imperial Rome Exiled us jews from Judah accross the univers.
See links:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org]
[link to www.ancientresource.com]

Go lern history!!!
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Stop the deception,do u know what Jesus told about Israelis.

John 8:44

44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Shows what all your proofs are.
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I suggest you read the ENTIRE book, then you might understand.
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Hamas executes suspected collaborators in the street for all to see.

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tie ropes to the dead corpse of a suspected collabortor and drag him through the street as a warning to all who dare oppose Hamas.

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the building in which sunday an innocent family of twelve was killed by idf missiles was because wrong information by a spy. the spy told israeli intelligence that a hamas leader was there, but he just made that up. a whole family was killed because of that fuck. today he got a bullet through the head. this is war time and spies deserve to die on the spot.
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The Palestinian family died because an Israeli killed them.
The Palestinian spy died because he was a spy.

Its not quite right to imply that Hamas executed a spy to avenge a family.

I'm not sure what motivation a spy would have to intentionally mislead ISf to kill a family. Maybe he was a double agent or a dumb guy who had no information but provided some anyway hoping for some favor.

But maybe IDF just hit a random house and is scrambling now to make it the fault of a Palestinian.

There is no honor in any of this killing. There are no good guys here--there are innocents--but no noble warriors--no heroes--just people trapped in a situation where no action is right, and non-action is worse.

We have a responsibility to bear witness honestly, without making excuses or the kind of judgements that soften the blows to our hearts but do disservice to truth.
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In these videos, they kick, throw trash, and spit on the dead corpses, and then drag them through the street with a motorcycle.



I guess they must have learned how to handle dead muslim corpses from the US Marines, hahahahahaha

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I feel sorry for you then if you don't believe that God guides His people in this world. Perhaps you just need to spend more time getting to know Him better and then you'd understand what I was talking about.
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I understood you fine.
I understand the Bible just fine
I also understand there is no Scriptural support for any of the stuff going on.
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http.//www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulf​illed.htm

These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled in 1948 when Israel became an independent, united nation for the second time in history, and for the first time in 2,900 years. © 100 Prophecies

Jacob’s descendants would regain control of Israel

Bible passage. Amos 9.14-15
Written. about 750 BC
Fulfilled. Since 1948

In Amos 9.14-15, the prophet said that there would come a time when the exiles of Israel would again have Israel as their own land and that they would never be uprooted again. Amos lived about 2700 years ago, during a time when the people of Israel were being forced out of their homeland by a succession of foreign invasions. Despite many centuries of exile, many Jews returned to Israel and reclaimed sovereignty over a portion of their ancient homeland. This declaration of independence, in 1948, triggered a war with the surrounding countries, which objected to the presence of a Jewish state. On May 15, 1948, the day that armies from the surrounding countries invaded, Azzam Pasha, the Secretary General of the Arab League, said “This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.” Similar quotes were uttered by others during the war of 1948-49 and during the two major wars that followed. Despite its tiny size, Israel prevailed in these wars, preventing its people from being uprooted again, as they had been in ancient times.

Amos 9.14-15
I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God.
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The bolded part puts into question their version compared to the Bible's version. The 12 Tribes were pout into exile from the promised land by God because they were killing the Prophets sent to them. Neb was God's servant in doing that task. The exile was for 70 years but the punishment would not be fully over until the return. The 70 weeks in Da.9 did allow for a return to Jerusalem to build a Temple so some prophecies about fulfilling everything to do with the bruise to the heel. The scattering in De.4.30 would then take place and that was the scattering into the Nations from that prophecy. The scattering was to last until all punishments for the 12 Tribes was fully finished and Jer.25 list who will be involved and what will happen to them. Nothing in the last verses of that chapter match, look it up and post it if I am not correct. How many Jews did not go to the new Israel, none are to be left in any of the Nations if you want to go by what the Bible promotes.

Am.9.9.
For,
lo,
I will command,
and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations,
like as corn is sifted in a sieve,
yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
Am.9.10.
All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword,
which say,
The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.
Am.9.11.
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen,
and close up the breaches thereof;
and I will raise up his ruins,
and I will build it as in the days of old.

Christ will build a Tabernacle that will exist for the 1,000 year reign, that would be on the day before any are brought home, starting with the graves being emptied.

Israel would be brought back to life

Bible passage. Ezekiel 37.10-14
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Ezekiel 37.10-14, the prophet receives a vision in which Israel was seen as a scattering of dried-up bones. In this vision, God tells Ezekiel that the bones (Israel) would be brought back to life. Just as Ezekiel had prophesized about 2600 years ago, the Jews were brought back to the land, and the country of Israel was brought back to life. Israel re-established sovereignty in 1948, a mere three years after the end of the Holocaust, during which the Nazis killed about one-third of the world’s Jewish population.

Ezekiel 37.10-14
So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet--a vast army. Then he said to me. “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ Therefore prophesy and say to them. ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says. O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.’”
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Seriously you skipped over the resurrection verses that describe how life is restored to those who have been in the grave a very long time. The author conviently leaves out who is in the lisy.

Eze.37.9.
Then said he unto me,
Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy,
son of man,
and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Come from the four winds,
O breath,
and breathe upon these slain,
that they may live.
Eze.37.10.
So I prophesied as he commanded me,
and the breath came into them,
and they lived,
and stood up upon their feet,
an exceeding great army.
Eze.37.11.
Then he said unto me,
Son of man,
these bones are the whole house of Israel.
behold,
they say,
Our bones are dried,
and our hope is lost.
we are cut off for our parts.
Eze.37.12.
Therefore prophesy and say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
O my people,
I will open your graves,
and cause you to come up out of your graves,
and bring you into the land of Israel.

Pretty plain words and it is fully supported by more, not just the little I and going to include. The verses below say a fulfillment is done of a prophecy, easy to follow and a term is defined, that is the important part for this post.

M't.2.16.
Then Herod,
when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
M't.2.17.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
M't.2.18.
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
and weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted,
because they are not.

Jer.31.15.
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Jer.31.16.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears.
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
Jer.31.17.
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.

The 'land of the enemy' is death, being brought back from there is called a resurrection, I assume you have heard that term before.


Isaiah spoke of a Israel being reborn in one day

Bible passage. Isaiah 66.7-8
Written. perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Isaiah 66.7-8, the prophet foreshadowed the re-birth of Israel in 1948. Isaiah describes a woman giving birth before going into labor, and he speaks of a country being born in one day. This accurately describes what happened on May 14, 1948 - when the Jews declared independence for Israel as a united and sovereign nation for the first time in 2900 years.

During that same day, the United States issued a statement recognizing Israel’s sovereignty. And, only hours beforehand, a United Nations mandate expired, ending British control of the land. During a 24-hour span of time, foreign control of the land of Israel had formally ceased, and Israel had declared its independence, and its independence was acknowledged by other nations. Modern Israel was literally was born in a single day.

Isaiah said the birth would take place before there would be labor pains. And that too is precisely what happened. A movement called Zionism began in the 1800s to encourage Jews worldwide to move to Israel, which at that time was called Palestine. Within hours of the declaration of independence in 1948, Israel was attacked by the surrounding countries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

When reading Isaiah 66.7-8, keep in mind that Israel’s status as a sovereign nation was established and reaffirmed during the course of a single day, and that it was born of a movement called Zionism, and that its declaration of independence was not the result of a war but rather the cause of one.

Isaiah 66.7-8
“Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son. Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.” [/quote}
Getting a bit desperate, check your own history books, the Rothschild bankrolled the return starting in the 1880's and the Balfour declaration is from 1917. You are looking at 60 years just in that little bit. The 7th trump is the day 2 witnesses are resurrected, right after that Satan's forces are wiped out by the 7 vials being poured out in just a few hours, after that anybody needing resurrection to be alive for the 1,000 years is then resurrected, all events completed by that evening. That is what that verse means. Israel alone is not gathered on that day, the Church is also gathered. No Tabernacle = no visits = no fulfillment

Zec.14.7.
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
not day,
nor night.
but it shall come to pass,
that at evening time it shall be light.
Zec.14.8.
And it shall be in that day,
that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
half of them toward the former sea,
and half of them toward the hinder sea.
in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zec.14.9.
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth.
in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.

Israel would be re-established as a united nation

Bible passage. Ezekiel 37.21-22
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Ezekiel 37.21-22, the prophet said that God would one day bring the people of Israel back to Israel, as a united nation. This might have been a shock for Ezekiel. He lived about 2600 years ago. At that time, the people of Israel had already divided themselves into two separate kingdoms. And, both kingdoms had been conquered by foreign invaders, who forced many of the people, including Ezekiel, into exile. But, when Jews reclaimed sovereignty in 1948, they did so as a united people, creating one nation - Israel.

Ezekiel 37.21-22
and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says. I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.
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How many Jews live outside of Israel back then and right now. How many does it have to be before the 'numbers' don't match? If there is not to be another gathering then all of Eze.39 must also have been fulfilled. The few in numbers mentioned in relation to the scattering in De.4 is for the end of that period rather than at the beginning. The end times have 144,000 sealed for protection from death, they will be the only ones from the 12 tribes to see the return where destruction takes place, that is fully over before the resurrection of the House of Israel takes place, going back to Abraham's sons as mentioned in Eze.37

Eze.39.23.
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity.
because they trespassed against me,
therefore hid I my face from them,
and gave them into the hand of their enemies.
so fell they all by the sword.
Eze.39.24.
According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them,
and hid my face from them.
Eze.39.25.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob,
and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel,
and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze.39.26.
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
Eze.39.27.
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze.39.28.
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen.
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.

Eze.39.29.
Neither will I hide my face any more from them.
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.

The second Israel would be more impressive than the first

Bible passage. Jeremiah 16.14-15
Written. sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Jeremiah 16.14-15, the prophet said the second Israel would be more impressive than the first. In many regards, it is. The first time that Israel was established as a country was after Moses led the descendants of Jacob (typically referred to today as Jews) out of Egypt, where they had been enslaved for 400 years. They then conquered Canaan and established Israel about 3400 years ago. But the second time that Israel was established was after the Jews had been scattered far and wide for a few thousand years. This time the Jews had to return from as far away as the United States, China, Russia and South Africa.

Jeremiah 16.14-15
“However, the days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when men will no longer say, ‘As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,’ but they will say, ‘As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.’ For I will restore them to the land I gave their forefathers.
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There any Jews many Nations still, are they rejecting (what you say) is God new home or are they just aware this is a man=made operation?
How many are able to say the Lord is alive (such as Thomas in John.20) Being able to see His face should make it possible to describe it in great detail, nobody can o the passage remains unfulfilled.


Jer.16.17.
For mine eyes are upon all their ways.
they are not hid from my face,
neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes.

Ezekiel predicted when Israel would be re-established

Bible passage. Ezekiel 4.3-6
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Ezekiel 4.3-6, the prophet said the Jews, who had lost control of their homeland, would be punished for 430 years. This prophecy, according to Bible scholar Grant Jeffrey, pinpointed the 1948 rebirth of Israel. Here’s a summary of Jeffrey’s theory.

1. Ezekiel said the Jews were to be punished for 430 years because they had turned away from God. As part of the punishment, the Jews lost control of their homeland to Babylon. Many Jews were taken as captives to Babylon.

2. Babylon was later conquered by Cyrus in 539 BC. Cyrus allowed the Jews to leave Babylon and to return to their homeland. But, only a small number returned. The return had taken place sometime around 536 BC, about 70 years after Judah lost independence to Babylon.

3. Because most of the exiles chose to stay in pagan Babylon rather than return to the Holy Land, the remaining 360 years of their punishment was multiplied by 7. The reason is explained in Bible’s book of Leviticus. (Leviticus 26.18, Leviticus 26.21, Leviticus 26.24 and Leviticus 26.28). In Leviticus, it says that if the people did not repent while being punished, the punishment would be multiplied by 7. And, by staying in pagan Babylon, most exiles were refusing to repent.

4. So, if you take the remaining 360 years of punishment and multiply by 7, you get 2,520 years. But, Jeffrey says those years are based on an ancient 360-day lunar calendar. If those years are adjusted to the modern solar calendar, the result is 2,484 years.

5. And, there were exactly 2,484 years from 536 BC to 1948, which is the year that Israel regained independence.

(In this Bible passage, Ezekiel is asked by God to symbolically act out the 430 years of punishment)

Ezekiel 4.3-6
... Then take an iron pan, place it as an iron wall between you and the city and turn your face toward it. It will be under siege, and you shall besiege it. This will be a sign to the house of Israel. “Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the house of Israel upon yourself. You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the house of Israel. “After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the house of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year.
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In short they are just playing with numbers. John was called in 26AD and that was the end of the 69th week (483 years), going back that would put the start of the 70 weeks as being 483 years earlier, even adding in the original 70 years of exile that is still 523BC

The people of Israel would return to “their own land”

Bible passage. Ezekiel 34.13
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. after May 14, 1948

In Ezekiel 34.13, the prophet said that God would gather the people of Israel scattered throughout the world and bring them back to “their own land.” After many centuries of dispersion, hundreds of thousands of Jews returned to their ancient homeland beginning in the late 1800s. But, millions more returned after Israel declared independence in 1948. In other words, millions of exiles returned to their ancient homeland which was now truly “their own land” in the sense that it was now a sovereign Jewish state.

Ezekiel 34.13
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.
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The time line given totally messes up that 'created in 1 day thing.
There is no time-frame in that chapter so it is an event at a unknown date

God would watch over the people of Israel

Bible passage. Jeremiah 31.10
Written. sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled. 1948, etc.

In Jeremiah 31.10, the prophet said that God would one day gather the Jews back to Israel and that He would watch over them like a shepherd. Believe what you wish, but there is evidence that God indeed has watched over the re-established nation of Israel. Hours after Israel declared independence in 1948, the surrounding countries attacked, hoping to replace the Jewish state with an Arab state. These countries are much larger than Israel. But tiny Israel prevailed in that war and was able to capture additional land, increasing the land size of Israel by 50 percent. Israel also prevailed in the two other major wars that followed.

Jeremiah 31.10
“Hear the word of the Lord, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands. ‘He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd.’
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Thereby breaking the UN 181 deal, that should have ended their stay right then but it was a Rothschild operation so it wasn't but it sure removed it from being part of something God was running.
Since land of the enemy is death where are all the resurrected people?

Jer.31.16.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears.
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.

Israel’s army would be disproportionately powerful

Bible passage. Leviticus 26.3, 7-8
Written. perhaps around 1400 BC
Fulfilled. 1948-49, 1967, etc.

In Leviticus 26.3, 7-8, the Bible says that the army of Israel would have a supernatural power to prevail during times of conflict, if the people are obedient to the Lord. This Bible passage says that 5 people would be able to chase away 100 people, and that 100 would be able to chase away 10,000. Is there any proof to this incredible claim? Judge for yourself.

Example 1. Within hours of Israel’s declaration of independence in 1948, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon invaded Israel. The combined population of those countries was at least 20 million at that time. Israel had fewer than 1 million Jews. Even so, the Jews won the war and expanded the size of Israel by 50 percent.

Example 2. During the War of 1967, Israel attacked the air force bases of the surrounding countries and took control of Jerusalem for the first time in about 2000 years. They also seized additional territory. That war lasted a mere 6 days.

Example 3. On Oct. 6, 1973, Israel was attacked by Egypt and Syria. Other countries later joined the attack. But the Jews were able to push back the attacking armies and occupy land outside of Israel’s borders.

Leviticus 26.3, 7-8
“If you follow my decrees and are careful to obey my commands, ... You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the sword before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the sword before you.”
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Breaking out the history books would clear up that Israel wasn't so outgunned, supernatural is when no guns a\re needed. We aren't that far back in the OT, we haven't even seen these events fully manifested yet and they can't happen after being truly gathered.

La.1.1.
How doth the city sit solitary,
that was full of people!
how is she become as a widow!
she that was great among the nations,
and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!
La.1.2.
She weepeth sore in the night,
and her tears are on her cheeks.
among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her.
all her friends have dealt treacherously with her,
they are become her enemies.
La.1.3.
Judah is gone into captivity because of affliction,
and because of great servitude.
she dwelleth among the heathen,
she findeth no rest.
all her persecutors overtook her between the straits.

The fortunes of the people of Israel would be restored

Bible passage. Deuteronomy 30.3-5
Written. perhaps 1400 BC
Fulfilled. 1948, etc.

In Deuteronomy 30.3-5, the Bible said the Jews would be scattered worldwide and that they later would return to their homeland and have their fortunes restored. This prophecy began to be fulfilled in modern times during the late 1800s when many Jews returned to Israel, from as far away as China and the United States, Russia and South Africa. Israel declared independence in 1948. Today, Israel is among the world’s most prosperous countries. In 1999, for example, Israel’s per capita Gross Domestic Product was twice as prosperous than the neighboring countries.

Deuteronomy 30.3-5
then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers.
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There goes that being created in one day thing again.
Israel gets the most welfare, if God was with her she would be able to feed the world




Check out the above link. That explains a lot of prophecies concerning Israel that have come to pass recently, such as where God said the nation would be created in a day (which happened in 1948) and things of that sort.

I didn't notice if that site had the verse from Amos where it says that God would plant His people back in their land and they would NEVER be uprooted again. But it does list a lot of verses concerning the nation of Israel.
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There are even more and there is a good reason they weren't on that same site.

I'm not saying this present conflict is described in the Bible. But who knows, it hasn't ended yet. We don't know whether or not this will escalate into something bigger or not. The Bible doesn't describe EVERY conflict concerning Israel in its pages. I didn't see anything concerning the Six Day War in the Bible either, but it did happen. If EVERYTHING was recorded, I can't imagine how large that book would have to be.
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All of this is in the time between the creation of the 'time of the Gentiles' in Luke.21.24 and the last 3 1/2 years it exists as given in Re.11

What I do know is that God doesn't break His promises. The fact that present day Israel has been involved in conflicts with other nations since becoming a nation and has miraculously come out on top even when the odds were against her proves to me that God is protecting her and keeping His word when He said His people would never be uprooted again. The fact that Israel even continues to exist being surrounded by enemy forces proves that she is under divine protection. Psalm 83.4 says They say, “Come, let us wipe them out as a nation; let the name of Israel be remembered no more!”
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Sneak attack in 1967, a prepared army in 1948, same old shit any aggressive people have done since war first existed.

I seem to recall leaders of Arab nations calling for the destruction of Israel, wiping Israel off the map. Little do they know that God knew what was in their hearts long before the words came out of their mouths.
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I seem to recall 11 Nations voting 'no' to UN 181 who lived in the immediate are4a and 33 Nations who voted yes when most of them have an ocean to cross before they can even see the place, the 33 Nations are the ones in the wrong.

God does say in Zechariah 12
8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the one who is feeble among them in that day will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the Lord before them. 9 And in that day I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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God has put in zero appearances, seriously, if He had there would be no questions.

I for one have no intentions of even trying to take God's land from God's people! He's already recorded what will happen to those that DO try.
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Why would I care if you remain delusional or not, as long as I check the facts I'm quite content.

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In these videos, they kick, throw trash, and spit on the dead corpses, and then drag them through the street with a motorcycle.



I guess they must have learned how to handle dead muslim corpses from the US Marines, hahahahahaha


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More like the Marines got their training from the IDF.
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Wars happen when sane people give it up to the terminally stupid.

'First' world public opinion is not to be messed with:
The Israeli leadership kicks herself in the nuts with her unilateral actions against poor people in an unfair fight. Hamas, not to be out-moraned, executes/murders six ‘spies’ without trial, and then to really get global public support against them, drags them through the streets in typical primitive style that only the most basic of Prole can muster, thereby giving those who might have just started seeing their view a real reason not to, and to side with ‘middle class’ Israel. Third World is Third World for a reason and that is because Lumpen Proles are stupid/socially backward. I see Israel’s point now. Imagine if Israel was overrun by the creatures that did this…Israel is right – look after your own and fuck the rest or you’ll get overrun by the primitive hordes (natural law)…Look at the Europe.
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More like the Marines got their training from the IDF.
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I wonder who the Syrians learned it from.

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hamas killed 6 spies in a hour, israel killed 200 innocent civies in 5 days.
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Most of the pepole Israel killed are not innocent, and don't forget that Hamas is hiding behind civies and shooting rockets on Israeli civies for 12 years now and for no reson!!!
What would you do?
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Six Israeli 'spies' executed before baying mob in Gaza City, before motorbike gang drags one bloodied victim through the streets

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I feel sorry for you then if you don't believe that God guides His people in this world. Perhaps you just need to spend more time getting to know Him better and then you'd understand what I was talking about.
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I understood you fine.
I understand the Bible just fine
I also understand there is no Scriptural support for any of the stuff going on.
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http.//www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulf​illed.htm

These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled in 1948 when Israel became an independent, united nation for the second time in history, and for the first time in 2,900 years. © 100 Prophecies

Jacob’s descendants would regain control of Israel

Bible passage. Amos 9.14-15
Written. about 750 BC
Fulfilled. Since 1948

In Amos 9.14-15, the prophet said that there would come a time when the exiles of Israel would again have Israel as their own land and that they would never be uprooted again. Amos lived about 2700 years ago, during a time when the people of Israel were being forced out of their homeland by a succession of foreign invasions. Despite many centuries of exile, many Jews returned to Israel and reclaimed sovereignty over a portion of their ancient homeland. This declaration of independence, in 1948, triggered a war with the surrounding countries, which objected to the presence of a Jewish state. On May 15, 1948, the day that armies from the surrounding countries invaded, Azzam Pasha, the Secretary General of the Arab League, said “This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.” Similar quotes were uttered by others during the war of 1948-49 and during the two major wars that followed. Despite its tiny size, Israel prevailed in these wars, preventing its people from being uprooted again, as they had been in ancient times.

Amos 9.14-15
I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God.
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The bolded part puts into question their version compared to the Bible's version. The 12 Tribes were pout into exile from the promised land by God because they were killing the Prophets sent to them. Neb was God's servant in doing that task. The exile was for 70 years but the punishment would not be fully over until the return. The 70 weeks in Da.9 did allow for a return to Jerusalem to build a Temple so some prophecies about fulfilling everything to do with the bruise to the heel. The scattering in De.4.30 would then take place and that was the scattering into the Nations from that prophecy. The scattering was to last until all punishments for the 12 Tribes was fully finished and Jer.25 list who will be involved and what will happen to them. Nothing in the last verses of that chapter match, look it up and post it if I am not correct. How many Jews did not go to the new Israel, none are to be left in any of the Nations if you want to go by what the Bible promotes.

Am.9.9.
For,
lo,
I will command,
and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations,
like as corn is sifted in a sieve,
yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
Am.9.10.
All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword,
which say,
The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.
Am.9.11.
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen,
and close up the breaches thereof;
and I will raise up his ruins,
and I will build it as in the days of old.

Christ will build a Tabernacle that will exist for the 1,000 year reign, that would be on the day before any are brought home, starting with the graves being emptied.

Israel would be brought back to life

Bible passage. Ezekiel 37.10-14
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Ezekiel 37.10-14, the prophet receives a vision in which Israel was seen as a scattering of dried-up bones. In this vision, God tells Ezekiel that the bones (Israel) would be brought back to life. Just as Ezekiel had prophesized about 2600 years ago, the Jews were brought back to the land, and the country of Israel was brought back to life. Israel re-established sovereignty in 1948, a mere three years after the end of the Holocaust, during which the Nazis killed about one-third of the world’s Jewish population.

Ezekiel 37.10-14
So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet--a vast army. Then he said to me. “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ Therefore prophesy and say to them. ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says. O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.’”
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Seriously you skipped over the resurrection verses that describe how life is restored to those who have been in the grave a very long time. The author conviently leaves out who is in the lisy.

Eze.37.9.
Then said he unto me,
Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy,
son of man,
and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Come from the four winds,
O breath,
and breathe upon these slain,
that they may live.
Eze.37.10.
So I prophesied as he commanded me,
and the breath came into them,
and they lived,
and stood up upon their feet,
an exceeding great army.
Eze.37.11.
Then he said unto me,
Son of man,
these bones are the whole house of Israel.
behold,
they say,
Our bones are dried,
and our hope is lost.
we are cut off for our parts.
Eze.37.12.
Therefore prophesy and say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
O my people,
I will open your graves,
and cause you to come up out of your graves,
and bring you into the land of Israel.

Pretty plain words and it is fully supported by more, not just the little I and going to include. The verses below say a fulfillment is done of a prophecy, easy to follow and a term is defined, that is the important part for this post.

M't.2.16.
Then Herod,
when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
M't.2.17.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
M't.2.18.
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
and weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted,
because they are not.

Jer.31.15.
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Jer.31.16.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears.
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
Jer.31.17.
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.

The 'land of the enemy' is death, being brought back from there is called a resurrection, I assume you have heard that term before.


Isaiah spoke of a Israel being reborn in one day

Bible passage. Isaiah 66.7-8
Written. perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Isaiah 66.7-8, the prophet foreshadowed the re-birth of Israel in 1948. Isaiah describes a woman giving birth before going into labor, and he speaks of a country being born in one day. This accurately describes what happened on May 14, 1948 - when the Jews declared independence for Israel as a united and sovereign nation for the first time in 2900 years.

During that same day, the United States issued a statement recognizing Israel’s sovereignty. And, only hours beforehand, a United Nations mandate expired, ending British control of the land. During a 24-hour span of time, foreign control of the land of Israel had formally ceased, and Israel had declared its independence, and its independence was acknowledged by other nations. Modern Israel was literally was born in a single day.

Isaiah said the birth would take place before there would be labor pains. And that too is precisely what happened. A movement called Zionism began in the 1800s to encourage Jews worldwide to move to Israel, which at that time was called Palestine. Within hours of the declaration of independence in 1948, Israel was attacked by the surrounding countries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

When reading Isaiah 66.7-8, keep in mind that Israel’s status as a sovereign nation was established and reaffirmed during the course of a single day, and that it was born of a movement called Zionism, and that its declaration of independence was not the result of a war but rather the cause of one.

Isaiah 66.7-8
“Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son. Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.” [/quote}
Getting a bit desperate, check your own history books, the Rothschild bankrolled the return starting in the 1880's and the Balfour declaration is from 1917. You are looking at 60 years just in that little bit. The 7th trump is the day 2 witnesses are resurrected, right after that Satan's forces are wiped out by the 7 vials being poured out in just a few hours, after that anybody needing resurrection to be alive for the 1,000 years is then resurrected, all events completed by that evening. That is what that verse means. Israel alone is not gathered on that day, the Church is also gathered. No Tabernacle = no visits = no fulfillment

Zec.14.7.
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
not day,
nor night.
but it shall come to pass,
that at evening time it shall be light.
Zec.14.8.
And it shall be in that day,
that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
half of them toward the former sea,
and half of them toward the hinder sea.
in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zec.14.9.
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth.
in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.

Israel would be re-established as a united nation

Bible passage. Ezekiel 37.21-22
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Ezekiel 37.21-22, the prophet said that God would one day bring the people of Israel back to Israel, as a united nation. This might have been a shock for Ezekiel. He lived about 2600 years ago. At that time, the people of Israel had already divided themselves into two separate kingdoms. And, both kingdoms had been conquered by foreign invaders, who forced many of the people, including Ezekiel, into exile. But, when Jews reclaimed sovereignty in 1948, they did so as a united people, creating one nation - Israel.

Ezekiel 37.21-22
and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says. I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.
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How many Jews live outside of Israel back then and right now. How many does it have to be before the 'numbers' don't match? If there is not to be another gathering then all of Eze.39 must also have been fulfilled. The few in numbers mentioned in relation to the scattering in De.4 is for the end of that period rather than at the beginning. The end times have 144,000 sealed for protection from death, they will be the only ones from the 12 tribes to see the return where destruction takes place, that is fully over before the resurrection of the House of Israel takes place, going back to Abraham's sons as mentioned in Eze.37

Eze.39.23.
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity.
because they trespassed against me,
therefore hid I my face from them,
and gave them into the hand of their enemies.
so fell they all by the sword.
Eze.39.24.
According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them,
and hid my face from them.
Eze.39.25.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob,
and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel,
and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze.39.26.
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
Eze.39.27.
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze.39.28.
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen.
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.

Eze.39.29.
Neither will I hide my face any more from them.
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.

The second Israel would be more impressive than the first

Bible passage. Jeremiah 16.14-15
Written. sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Jeremiah 16.14-15, the prophet said the second Israel would be more impressive than the first. In many regards, it is. The first time that Israel was established as a country was after Moses led the descendants of Jacob (typically referred to today as Jews) out of Egypt, where they had been enslaved for 400 years. They then conquered Canaan and established Israel about 3400 years ago. But the second time that Israel was established was after the Jews had been scattered far and wide for a few thousand years. This time the Jews had to return from as far away as the United States, China, Russia and South Africa.

Jeremiah 16.14-15
“However, the days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when men will no longer say, ‘As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,’ but they will say, ‘As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.’ For I will restore them to the land I gave their forefathers.
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There any Jews many Nations still, are they rejecting (what you say) is God new home or are they just aware this is a man=made operation?
How many are able to say the Lord is alive (such as Thomas in John.20) Being able to see His face should make it possible to describe it in great detail, nobody can o the passage remains unfulfilled.


Jer.16.17.
For mine eyes are upon all their ways.
they are not hid from my face,
neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes.

Ezekiel predicted when Israel would be re-established

Bible passage. Ezekiel 4.3-6
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. 1948

In Ezekiel 4.3-6, the prophet said the Jews, who had lost control of their homeland, would be punished for 430 years. This prophecy, according to Bible scholar Grant Jeffrey, pinpointed the 1948 rebirth of Israel. Here’s a summary of Jeffrey’s theory.

1. Ezekiel said the Jews were to be punished for 430 years because they had turned away from God. As part of the punishment, the Jews lost control of their homeland to Babylon. Many Jews were taken as captives to Babylon.

2. Babylon was later conquered by Cyrus in 539 BC. Cyrus allowed the Jews to leave Babylon and to return to their homeland. But, only a small number returned. The return had taken place sometime around 536 BC, about 70 years after Judah lost independence to Babylon.

3. Because most of the exiles chose to stay in pagan Babylon rather than return to the Holy Land, the remaining 360 years of their punishment was multiplied by 7. The reason is explained in Bible’s book of Leviticus. (Leviticus 26.18, Leviticus 26.21, Leviticus 26.24 and Leviticus 26.28). In Leviticus, it says that if the people did not repent while being punished, the punishment would be multiplied by 7. And, by staying in pagan Babylon, most exiles were refusing to repent.

4. So, if you take the remaining 360 years of punishment and multiply by 7, you get 2,520 years. But, Jeffrey says those years are based on an ancient 360-day lunar calendar. If those years are adjusted to the modern solar calendar, the result is 2,484 years.

5. And, there were exactly 2,484 years from 536 BC to 1948, which is the year that Israel regained independence.

(In this Bible passage, Ezekiel is asked by God to symbolically act out the 430 years of punishment)

Ezekiel 4.3-6
... Then take an iron pan, place it as an iron wall between you and the city and turn your face toward it. It will be under siege, and you shall besiege it. This will be a sign to the house of Israel. “Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the house of Israel upon yourself. You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the house of Israel. “After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the house of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year.
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In short they are just playing with numbers. John was called in 26AD and that was the end of the 69th week (483 years), going back that would put the start of the 70 weeks as being 483 years earlier, even adding in the original 70 years of exile that is still 523BC

The people of Israel would return to “their own land”

Bible passage. Ezekiel 34.13
Written. between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled. after May 14, 1948

In Ezekiel 34.13, the prophet said that God would gather the people of Israel scattered throughout the world and bring them back to “their own land.” After many centuries of dispersion, hundreds of thousands of Jews returned to their ancient homeland beginning in the late 1800s. But, millions more returned after Israel declared independence in 1948. In other words, millions of exiles returned to their ancient homeland which was now truly “their own land” in the sense that it was now a sovereign Jewish state.

Ezekiel 34.13
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.
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The time line given totally messes up that 'created in 1 day thing.
There is no time-frame in that chapter so it is an event at a unknown date

God would watch over the people of Israel

Bible passage. Jeremiah 31.10
Written. sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled. 1948, etc.

In Jeremiah 31.10, the prophet said that God would one day gather the Jews back to Israel and that He would watch over them like a shepherd. Believe what you wish, but there is evidence that God indeed has watched over the re-established nation of Israel. Hours after Israel declared independence in 1948, the surrounding countries attacked, hoping to replace the Jewish state with an Arab state. These countries are much larger than Israel. But tiny Israel prevailed in that war and was able to capture additional land, increasing the land size of Israel by 50 percent. Israel also prevailed in the two other major wars that followed.

Jeremiah 31.10
“Hear the word of the Lord, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands. ‘He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd.’
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Thereby breaking the UN 181 deal, that should have ended their stay right then but it was a Rothschild operation so it wasn't but it sure removed it from being part of something God was running.
Since land of the enemy is death where are all the resurrected people?

Jer.31.16.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears.
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.

Israel’s army would be disproportionately powerful

Bible passage. Leviticus 26.3, 7-8
Written. perhaps around 1400 BC
Fulfilled. 1948-49, 1967, etc.

In Leviticus 26.3, 7-8, the Bible says that the army of Israel would have a supernatural power to prevail during times of conflict, if the people are obedient to the Lord. This Bible passage says that 5 people would be able to chase away 100 people, and that 100 would be able to chase away 10,000. Is there any proof to this incredible claim? Judge for yourself.

Example 1. Within hours of Israel’s declaration of independence in 1948, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon invaded Israel. The combined population of those countries was at least 20 million at that time. Israel had fewer than 1 million Jews. Even so, the Jews won the war and expanded the size of Israel by 50 percent.

Example 2. During the War of 1967, Israel attacked the air force bases of the surrounding countries and took control of Jerusalem for the first time in about 2000 years. They also seized additional territory. That war lasted a mere 6 days.

Example 3. On Oct. 6, 1973, Israel was attacked by Egypt and Syria. Other countries later joined the attack. But the Jews were able to push back the attacking armies and occupy land outside of Israel’s borders.

Leviticus 26.3, 7-8
“If you follow my decrees and are careful to obey my commands, ... You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the sword before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the sword before you.”
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Breaking out the history books would clear up that Israel wasn't so outgunned, supernatural is when no guns a\re needed. We aren't that far back in the OT, we haven't even seen these events fully manifested yet and they can't happen after being truly gathered.

La.1.1.
How doth the city sit solitary,
that was full of people!
how is she become as a widow!
she that was great among the nations,
and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!
La.1.2.
She weepeth sore in the night,
and her tears are on her cheeks.
among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her.
all her friends have dealt treacherously with her,
they are become her enemies.
La.1.3.
Judah is gone into captivity because of affliction,
and because of great servitude.
she dwelleth among the heathen,
she findeth no rest.
all her persecutors overtook her between the straits.

The fortunes of the people of Israel would be restored

Bible passage. Deuteronomy 30.3-5
Written. perhaps 1400 BC
Fulfilled. 1948, etc.

In Deuteronomy 30.3-5, the Bible said the Jews would be scattered worldwide and that they later would return to their homeland and have their fortunes restored. This prophecy began to be fulfilled in modern times during the late 1800s when many Jews returned to Israel, from as far away as China and the United States, Russia and South Africa. Israel declared independence in 1948. Today, Israel is among the world’s most prosperous countries. In 1999, for example, Israel’s per capita Gross Domestic Product was twice as prosperous than the neighboring countries.

Deuteronomy 30.3-5
then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers.
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There goes that being created in one day thing again.
Israel gets the most welfare, if God was with her she would be able to feed the world



Check out the above link. That explains a lot of prophecies concerning Israel that have come to pass recently, such as where God said the nation would be created in a day (which happened in 1948) and things of that sort.

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There are even more and there is a good reason they weren't on that same site.

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All of this is in the time between the creation of the 'time of the Gentiles' in Luke.21.24 and the last 3 1/2 years it exists as given in Re.11

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Sneak attack in 1967, a prepared army in 1948, same old shit any aggressive people have done since war first existed.

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I seem to recall 11 Nations voting 'no' to UN 181 who lived in the immediate are4a and 33 Nations who voted yes when most of them have an ocean to cross before they can even see the place, the 33 Nations are the ones in the wrong.

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God has put in zero appearances, seriously, if He had there would be no questions.

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Why would I care if you remain delusional or not, as long as I check the facts I'm quite content.
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really?????....

hmmm... i read ALL of THAT!.......

Succinct.. 'tis a good word and bears repetition'.....

i would try and spell or grammar check, or edit, instead, i shall repost the entire thing so i can annoy others... that being said.. it seems you have done a 'little' research regarding your endeavours....

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Wars happen when sane people give it up to the terminally stupid.

'First' world public opinion is not to be messed with:
The Israeli leadership kicks herself in the nuts with her unilateral actions against poor people in an unfair fight. Hamas, not to be out-moraned, executes/murders six ‘spies’ without trial, and then to really get global public support against them, drags them through the streets in typical primitive style that only the most basic of Prole can muster, thereby giving those who might have just started seeing their view a real reason not to, and to side with ‘middle class’ Israel. Third World is Third World for a reason and that is because Lumpen Proles are stupid/socially backward. I see Israel’s point now. Imagine if Israel was overrun by the creatures that did this…Israel is right – look after your own and fuck the rest or you’ll get overrun by the primitive hordes (natural law)…Look at the Europe.
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Just remember:

The people living in Gaza ELECTED Hamas as their government.

Israel is reacting to 1,372 missiles fired from Gaza into Israel SO FAR THIS YEAR.

If Canada or Mexico fired missiles into the US, we'd take similar action to eliminate the terrorists doing the firing.

Hamas has surrounded themselves with human shields, setting-up missiles in hospitals, schools, media buildings, etc.

The only way to take them out is what Israel is doing: Give fair warning (via text messages to ALL phones in the region, drop leaflets telling the Palestinians where the safe zones will be, telling them to GO there.

THEN and only then does the IDF/IAF launch precision strikes on their designated targets.

Conversely, Hamas has been firing unguided missiles into the heart of civilian territories in Israel,attempting to murder as many non-combatants as possible. They engage in a propaganda campaign using photos of dead children....which turn out to be PHOTOS FROM SYRIA FROM THREE MONTHS AGO and have nothing to do with this conflict.

No one wants death to innocents...but you have to wonder about the innocence of the general Palestinian population which would elect Hamas in a general election.

Do you find it odd that Israel knows exactly where every terror cell, every arms-smuggling tunnel, every missile launcher and every Hamas leader has been hiding? Maybe the poor people who were murdered by Hamas today were "helping" Israel, or maybe it was a group of people tired of being oppressed by their own government.

Remember...Israel did not start this war. They were created by U.N. charter and have been under attack since 1947. Before then, the Jews around the world had no homeland. Israel, including Jerusalem, is the biblical home of G-d's chosen people.

The First Covenant is still in effect, and has never been broken by G-d.

The covenant between Jesus and the Christians is still in effect and has never been broken by G-d.

Jesus was Jewish. Back in the day, the only difference between "Jews" and "Christians" was whether they viewed Jesus as the Messiah or not. Some did and became Christians, following a Jewish son of G-d.

Some didn't and are still waiting for the Messiah.

We are all seeds of the same tree of G-d, and we must protect Israel as the holy land, and the foundation of where all G-d's people arose from.

Just sharing some thoughts on this whole mess in the Middle East, and praying that Hamas stops firing missiles into Israel, so we can obtain a lasting peace.

Please, don't go around blaming Israel for defending herself. It is any nation's first right and obligation to protect her citizenry.

Simply because Hamas is so arrogant and stupid that they consistently pick fights with Israel (which is far more advanced militarily). Israel will ALWAYS defend herself, and Hamas and the Palestinians who refuse to accept Israel's right to exist will always suffer the consequences of their own actions.

They should have learned by now that firing rockets at Israel will only result in their imminent destruction. Israel has used great restraint during this conflict, and has never once mentioned the use of their nuclear arsenal (which a lot of people seem to forget about on this forum).

If Israel were the "monsters" some on this board make them out to be, then why haven't they nuked the Iranians back to the stone age, or used tactical nukes in Gaza or in the Golan?

I'll tell you..it is because the Israelites are a civilized people who only want to live their lives in dedication to G-d without having a bunch of muzzies dropping missiles on their houses for sport.

This war will not end until Hamas realizes the law of diminishing returns...and that they may "martyr" themselves in front of the world press, but they are murdering their own people by their actions...and they don't seem to care except for a "photo op" in order to propagandize against Israel.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in the world (and here on this board who send hateful messages to supporters of Israel) who believe the propaganda put forth by the Islamists.

I pray for the salvation of Israel, for the innocents in Gaza, and for peace in our time. I hope my voice is heard higher than the ceiling of this room and the confines of this board.

G-d bless Israel, and all who believe in the one true G-d.

Shalom.
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Six Israeli 'spies' executed before baying mob in Gaza City, before motorbike gang drags one bloodied victim through the streets

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Pretty digusting behaviour, but to be expected by the mentally restricted. Israelis don't do this to their own in public. The Israeli Gvt mostly stands by Her people and treats them like a big Family...that's worth defending in my book. The Proles are in it for themselves as can be seen here. Fucking stupid behaviour. Who do they think they're showing off for? Cowards dragging harmless dead people around will only intimidate the vulnerable, i.e their own people. Maybe Hamas should seek these faces out dragging the corpses and ask them why they're scaring their own supporters.
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11/21/2012 03:36 AM
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1) what a shithole

2) fuck religion
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Hamas executes suspected collaborators in the street for all to see.


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LOL the demonic libtards on this site sure love their fellow demons.
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In these videos, they kick, throw trash, and spit on the dead corpses, and then drag them through the street with a motorcycle.



I guess they must have learned how to handle dead muslim corpses from the US Marines, hahahahahaha


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Nah libtard. The Marines would kill and piss on the Hamass terrorists butchering their own people.
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Leave those Hamass people alone. Your just being culturally insensitive. That's like their version of parade in that part of the world. Children over there love it!
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11/21/2012 04:13 AM
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Nah libtard. The Marines would kill and piss on the Hamass terrorists butchering their own people.
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It looks like they do that anyway, more or less as a routine.
Is that part of the training that also increased the suicide rate so much?
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Nah libtard. The Marines would kill and piss on the Hamass terrorists butchering their own people.
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It looks like they do that anyway, more or less as a routine.
Is that part of the training that also increased the suicide rate so much?
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What, one year it rose above the suicide rates of the same equivalent civilian age group? Stupid libtards who hate the US military sure are fixated by this for some reason.
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Leave those Hamass people alone. Your just being culturally insensitive. That's like their version of parade in that part of the world. Children over there love it!
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I think the Hell's Angels have just been upstaged and outclassed.
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What, one year it rose above the suicide rates of the same equivalent civilian age group? Stupid libtards who hate the US military sure are fixated by this for some reason.
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u mad, bro?
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What, one year it rose above the suicide rates of the same equivalent civilian age group? Stupid libtards who hate the US military sure are fixated by this for some reason.
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u mad, bro?
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By liberals and their ignorance of basic facts? Yes, I admit I'm a little peeved by it.
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Leave those Hamass people alone. Your just being culturally insensitive. That's like their version of parade in that part of the world. Children over there love it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27848208


I think the Hell's Angels have just been upstaged and outclassed.
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LOL yeah those Hamass biker gangs are really fucked up bad asses.
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Nah libtard. The Marines would kill and piss on the Hamass terrorists butchering their own people.
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It looks like they do that anyway, more or less as a routine.
Is that part of the training that also increased the suicide rate so much?
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What, one year it rose above the suicide rates of the same equivalent civilian age group? Stupid libtards who hate the US military sure are fixated by this for some reason.
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I was referencing 1945 compared to the current data. Are you sure you have the right data?

Suicides Outpacing War Deaths for Troops
By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
Published: June 8, 2012

The suicide rate among the nation’s active-duty military personnel has spiked this year, eclipsing the number of troops dying in battle and on pace to set a record annual high since the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan more than a decade ago, the Pentagon said Friday.

Suicides have increased even as the United States military has withdrawn from Iraq and stepped up efforts to provide mental health, drug and alcohol, and financial counseling services.

The military said Friday that there had been 154 suicides among active-duty troops through Thursday, a rate of nearly one each day this year. The figures were first reported this week by The Associated Press.

That number represents an 18 percent increase over the 130 active-duty military suicides for the same period in 2011. There were 123 suicides from January to early June in 2010, and 133 during that period in 2009, the Pentagon said.

Who did the caption on the vid? Hamas wouldn't call themselves 'gunmen', it would be more like 'Special Forces drag body of Israeli collaborator through streets as a warning about the fate of traitors'
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LOL yeah those Hamass biker gangs are really fucked up bad asses.
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Did you miss the Police lights and serine and uniforms? Oh Yeah, all banned items, so that makes them 'plain clothes detectives' or 'undercover swat', take your pick.
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11/21/2012 04:53 AM
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whats the problem?
hamas killed 6 spies in a hour, israel killed 200 innocent civies in 5 days.
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but Israel own America and the UN so they are allowed too...
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Look alittle deeper you will find the Vatican Royals run this show on Earth..
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I think the Hell's Angels have just been upstaged and outclassed.
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Every cop who has gone has infiltrated a biker 'club' have all said the closeness of the bikers is a lot closer than the police themselves are, they were all envious of that.

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