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Can a Christian explain this in the book of job

 
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One man set as example for many to learn from, sounds familiar ...like God is doing what he does, teaches.

but maybe the real question is..who gets the right answer?
can one really understand Gods ways enough to get it right?

Did not Satan admit that God had a hedge around him? Is that not showing that Satan knows and respects Gods lines? Does Jesus Cast demons out because a demon has somehow walked across lines he shouldn't have? or as an example for the others ? Seems like some people are walking around as a testament or lessons for others..

its tricky to learn whats repeated by God over and over isn't it?

He said don't harm his person, now that's interesting..
How many others are vexed to suffer as examples/lessons for others through some kind of physical trouble. too many? or not enough?

are we not learning? fast enough ..do we keep reading the lessons wrong?

soo many dieing , and so much innocence in that pile.

what the hell are we to see hear?? except that God is out to kill us all to make us examples to one another ?

the lesson must be very important.. yes? with so much death.
at this point human being cant see past all the suffering and get past being angry about it.

to even hear who in this din of screams is saying..here i found a key to the door that will get us out of here.

who will listen now?

sons of God? who are they? from what I can tell a son of God is someone who is sent with a message..they are embodying a message from God..they are men with Gods word in them..lessons, even to be what Job was.
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Satan Attacks Job’s Character
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?”
9 So Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10 Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11 But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!”
12 And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person.”
So Satan went out from the presence of The Lord.

Ok I have a few questions here.
Now Job is described as

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God and shunned evil.

So why would god let satan screw up this guys life?

Who are the sons of god who are presenting themselves?

What does satan mean by going to and fro on the earth and walking back and forth on it?
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First, the "Sons of God" are the Angel's themselves, the Heavenly Host. This is explained in the Book of Genesis; while humanity is referred to as "The Daughters of Man".

Second, Job, and why was God allowing Lucifer (Satan) to put Job's faith to the test? This did not really have anything to do with Job at all, other then the fact that God saw Job as one of the few true "faithful" on the earth in those days.

So He allowed Satan to try and convince Job that God does not care about him. This was more a lesson, that God was teaching to Satan, then it was for Job... the lesson being that His faithful are His, and they can not be convinced to turn away...

As for Satan going to and fro on the earth and walking back and forth...

In those days, Lucifer, whom was the Arch Angel of the Heavenly Host before Michael was, and he was also the Angel of Light... Lucifer was not banished from Heaven. He was still granted access to The Throne of Heaven, and he was still allowed to speak his blasphemy's and try to tempt Gods followers away from God.

Lucifer was also granted free reign to do as he pleased upon the Earth... so he continuously moved between the Earth, and Heaven, and he was allowed to go 'to and fro' across the Earth. So he wandered the Earth, involving himself in the politics of various kingdoms of the time, and always tempting Earths inhabitants away from God.

Lucifer will not be banished from Heaven until The Great White Throne Judgement at the end of Armageddon and Christ returns, with Michael at his side. He commands Michael to capture Lucifer, chain him, and bring him to the Throne for judgement, and then he is thrown into the lake of fire.
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Although "sons of God" in Job means angels, elsewhere it means Man.

Psa 82:6 I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?



Joh_1:12 (KJV) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom_8:14 (KJV) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom_8:19 (KJV) For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Gal_4:6 (KJV) And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Php_2:15 (KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
1Jn_3:1 (KJV) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1Jn_3:2 (KJV) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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ESTHER 6

That night the king could not sleep. So one was commanded to bring the book of the records of the chronicles; and they were read before the king. 2 And it was found written that Mordecai had told of Bigthana (In the press giving meat/FLESH Desiring to kill “The Son” Christs' flesh in the winepress = The Cross) and Teresh, (Desire/ lust = SIN & DEATH) two of the king’s eunuchs, the doorkeepers who had sought to lay hands on King Ahasuerus.(God our Father) 3 Then the king said, “What honor or dignity has been bestowed on Mordecai for this?”
And the king’s servants who attended him said, “Nothing has been done for him.”
4 So the king said, “Who is in the court?” Now Haman had just entered the outer court of the king’s palace to suggest that the king hang Mordecai on the gallows that he had prepared for him.
5 The king’s servants said to him, “Haman is there, standing in the court.”
And the king said, “Let him come in.”
6 So Haman came in, and the king asked him, “What shall be done for the man whom the king delights to honor?”
Now Haman (Satan) thought in his heart, “Whom would the king delight to honor more than me?” 7 And Haman (Satan) answered the king, “For the man whom the king delights to honor, 8 let a royal robe be brought which the king has worn, and a horse on which the king has ridden, which has a royal crest placed on its head. 9 Then let this robe and horse be delivered to the hand of one of the king’s most noble princes, that he may array the man whom the king delights to honor. Then parade him on horseback through the city square, and proclaim before him: ‘Thus shall it be done to the man whom the king delights to honor!’” ( This is Judas the assassin the one who lead the foal for Christ. I think so!)
10 Then the king said to Haman, “Hurry, take the robe and the horse, as you have suggested, and do so for Mordecai the Jew who sits within the king’s gate! Leave nothing undone of all that you have spoken.”
11 So Haman (Satan) took the robe and the horse, arrayed Mordecai and led him on horseback through the city square, and proclaimed before him, “Thus shall it be done to the man whom the king delights to honor!” (And all the people cried “Hosanna, Hosanna to the King)
12 Afterward Mordecai went back to the king’s gate. But Haman hurried to his house, mourning and with his head covered. 13 When Haman told his wife Zeresh (Sin &Death) and all his friends (Principalities and powers) everything that had happened to him, his wise men and his wife Zeresh said to him, “If Mordecai, before whom you have begun to fall, is of Jewish descent, you will not prevail against him but will surely fall before him.”
14 While they were still talking with him, the king’s eunuchs came, and hastened to bring Haman (Satan)to the banquet which Esther(The New Covenant) had prepared.
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ESTHER 3

After these things King Ahasuerus promoted Haman,(magnificent…Please read the attributes of Lucifer) the son of Hammedatha (The one who troubles The Law) the Agagite, (The fiery one) and advanced him and set his seat above all the princes who were with him. 2 And all the king’s servants who were within the king’s gate bowed and paid homage to Haman, (Satan) for so the king had commanded concerning him. But Mordecai (Jesus Christ) would not bow or pay homage. 3 Then the king’s servants who were within the king’s gate said to Mordecai, “Why do you transgress the king’s command?” 4 Now it happened, when they spoke to him daily and he would not listen to them, that they told it to Haman, to see whether Mordecai’s words would stand; for Mordecai had told them that he was a Jew. (A worshiper of God) 5 When Haman saw that Mordecai did not bow or pay him homage, Haman was filled with wrath. 6 But he disdained to lay hands on Mordecai alone, for they had told him of the people of Mordecai. (Let the redeemed of The Lord say so!) Instead, Haman (Satan) sought to destroy all the Jews (Worshipers of God) who were throughout the whole kingdom of Ahasuerus—(The Father) the people of Mordecai.
7 In the first month, which is the month of Nisan, in the twelfth year of King Ahasuerus, they cast Pur (that is, the lot), before Haman to determine the day and the month, until it fell on the twelfth month, which is the month of Adar.
8 Then Haman said to King Ahasuerus, “There is a certain people scattered and dispersed among the people in all the provinces of your kingdom; their laws are different from all other people’s, and they do not keep the king’s laws. (The law of sin and death) Therefore it is not fitting for the king to let them remain. 9 If it pleases the king, let a decree be written that they be destroyed, and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver (The Ten Commandments the law of Sin and death) into the hands of those who do the work, to bring it into the king’s treasuries.”
10 So the king took his signet ring from his hand and gave it to Haman, (Satan) the son of Hammedatha (The one who troubles The Law) the Agagite, (The fiery one) the enemy of the Jews. 11 And the king said to Haman, “The money and the people are given to you, to do with them as seems good to you.”
12 Then the king’s scribes were called on the thirteenth day of the first month, and a decree was written according to all that Haman commanded—to the king’s satraps, to the governors who were over each province, to the officials of all people, to every province according to its script, and to every people in their language. (To the whole 360 degrees of earth) In the name of King Ahasuerus (God The Father) it was written, and sealed with the king’s signet ring. (A mark was given to Satan to place upon the people of God)13 And the letters were sent by couriers into all the king’s provinces, to destroy, to kill, and to annihilate all the Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, on the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month of Adar, and to plunder their possessions. (Satan had in mind to kill all life, this was in preparation for the battle of Armegeddon) 14 A copy of the document (The law of sin and death) was to be issued as law in every province, being published for all people, that they should be ready for that day. (The hour, day, month and year that Christ died) 15 The couriers went out, hastened by the king’s command; and the decree was proclaimed in Shushan the citadel. So the king and Haman sat down to drink, but the city of Shushan (Heaven) was perplexed. (As a son of The Father I must say that it is rather confusing to hear The Father sat down to have a drink with Satan, but as this story unfolds we will all see the reason!)
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So satan is like some sort of counsel to god?
And god has given him permission to wipe out the Jews because of the lies he has had regarding them from satan?
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KEEP READING THE STORY TO THE END AND YOU WILL HAVE UNDERSTANDING! amen
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ESTHER 7


So the king and Haman went to dine with Queen Esther. 2 And on the second day, at the banquet of wine, the king again said to Esther, “What is your petition, Queen Esther? (New Covenant what can The Father do to help)
It shall be granted you. And what is your request, up to half the kingdom? It shall be done!”
3 Then Queen Esther answered and said, “If I have found favor in your sight, O king, and if it pleases the king, let my life be given me at my petition,(The petition is The New Covenant of DOUBLE "LOVE "LOVE") and my people at my request. 4 For we have been sold, my people and I, to be destroyed, to be killed, and to be annihilated. (We were all sold to the law of sin and death, and certainly needed a Covenant that would lead us to life) Had we been sold as male and female slaves, I would have held my tongue, although the enemy (Satan) could never compensate for the king’s loss.”
5 So King Ahasuerus answered and said to Queen Esther, “Who is he, and where is he, who would dare presume in his heart to do such a thing?”
6 And Esther said, “The adversary and enemy is this wicked Haman!” (SATAN)
So Haman was terrified before the king and queen.
7 Then the king arose in his wrath from the banquet of wine(Christ on Calvary) and went into the palace garden; but Haman (Satan) stood before Queen Esther, (The New Covenant) pleading for his life, for he saw that evil was determined against him by the king. 8 When the king returned from the palace garden (Gethsemane) to the place of the banquet of wine, Haman had fallen across the couch where Esther was. (A golden couch, THE THRONE OF GOD HIMSELF) Then the king said, “Will he also assault the queen while I am in the house?” (How dare Satan touch The New Covenant of mercy and forgiveness)
As the word left the king’s mouth, they covered Haman’s face. 9 Now Harbonah, (His destruction, His Sword, His Word) one of the eunuchs, said to the king, “Look! The gallows, fifty cubits high,(666) which Haman made for Mordecai, who spoke good on the king’s behalf, is standing at the house of Haman.” (The house of Haman was hades/ HELL)
Then the king said, “Hang him on it!”
10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then the king’s wrath subsided.

COLOSSIANS 2:13-15

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
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ESTHER 8



On that day King Ahasuerus (The Father) gave Queen Esther (The New Covenant) the house of Haman, (The only thing we are waiting for is THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING TO BURN UP THE OLD NATURE/ THE MAN OF SIN WE ALL WRESTLE WITH!) the enemy of the Jews. (The worshipers of God)
And Mordecai came before the king, for Esther had told how he was related to her. 2 So the king took off his signet ring, which he had taken from Haman, and gave it to Mordecai; and Esther appointed Mordecai over the house of Haman.
3 Now Esther spoke again to the king, fell down at his feet, and implored him with tears to counteract the evil of Haman the Agagite, and the scheme which he had devised against the Jews. (Five have fallen, ONE IS, one must be for a short time, and the eighth is himself the beast/ the old nature!) 4 And the king held out the golden scepter (The Holy Spirit) toward Esther. So Esther arose and stood before the king, 5 and said, “If it pleases the king, and if I have found favor in his sight and the thing seems right to the king and I am pleasing in his eyes, let it be written to revoke the letters devised by Haman, (Satan devised the law of sin and death) the son of Hammedatha (The one who troubles The Law) the Agagite, (The fiery one)
which he wrote to annihilate the Jews who are in all the king’s provinces. 6 For how can I endure to see the evil that will come to my people? Or how can I endure to see the destruction of my countrymen?”
7 Then King Ahasuerus (Father) said to Queen Esther (New Covenant) and Mordecai (Jesus) the Jew, “Indeed, I have given Esther the house of Haman,(Hell belongs to Jesus Christ The Son Of LOVE) and they have hanged him on the gallows because he tried to lay his hand on the Jews. 8 You yourselves write a decree concerning the Jews, as you please, in the king’s name, and seal it with the king’s signet ring; for whatever is written in the king’s name and sealed with the king’s signet ring no one can revoke.” (Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for loving us as friends and not as slaves)
9 So the king’s scribes were called at that time, in the third month, which is the month of Sivan, on the twenty-third day; and it was written, according to all that Mordecai commanded, to the Jews, the satraps, the governors, and the princes of the provinces from India to Ethiopia, one hundred and twenty-seven provinces in all, to every province in its own script, to every people in their own language, and to the Jews in their own script and language. (The Holy Spirit has written His laws on our hearts) 10 And he wrote in the name of King Ahasuerus, sealed it with the king’s signet ring, and sent letters by couriers on horseback, riding on royal horses bred from swift steeds. (I believe these Royal horses breed from swift steeds are the ones who flooded out of the upper room and then spread like wildfire throughout all the earth) 11 By these letters the king permitted the Jews who were in every city to gather together and protect their lives—to destroy, kill, and annihilate all the forces of any people or province that would assault them, both little children and women, and to plunder their possessions, 12 on one day in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus, (Principalities and powers and rulers of darkness were destroyed on Calvary and consumed at the Resurrection) on the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month of Adar. 13 A copy of the document was to be issued as a decree in every province and published for all people, so that the Jews would be ready on that day to avenge themselves on their enemies. 14 The couriers who rode on royal horses went out, hastened and pressed on by the king’s command. And the decree was issued in Shushan the citadel. (Heaven) (The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty!)
15 So Mordecai (Jesus) went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, with a great crown of gold and a garment of fine linen and purple; and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad. 16 The Jews had light and gladness, joy and honor. 17 And in every province and city, wherever the king’s command and decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a holiday. Then many of the people of the land became Jews, because fear of the Jews fell upon them.

AND WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH!
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Im curious as to why you are posting the book Esther when the op was asking regarding Job. Job's experience has nothing to do with Esther's experience.
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ESTHER 9


Now in the twelfth month, that is, the month of Adar, on the thirteenth day, the time came for the king’s command and his decree to be executed. On the day that the enemies (Satan and his 200 million demon army) of the Jews had hoped to overpower them, the opposite occurred, in that the Jews (Worshipers Of God) themselves overpowered those who hated them. 2 The Jews gathered together in their cities throughout all the provinces of King Ahasuerus to lay hands on those who sought their harm. And no one could withstand them, because fear of them fell upon all people. 3 And all the officials of the provinces, the satraps, the governors, and all those doing the king’s work, helped the Jews, because the fear of Mordecai (Jesus) fell upon them. 4 For Mordecai (Jesus Christ) was great in the king’s palace, and his fame spread throughout all the provinces; for this man Mordecai became increasingly prominent. 5 Thus the Jews defeated all their enemies with the stroke of the sword,(THE WORD OF GOD) with slaughter and destruction, and did what they pleased with those who hated them. (The Word is Quick and Powerful)
6 And in Shushan the citadel the Jews killed and destroyed five hundred men. (Daniel 2)
7 Also Parshandatha, Dalphon, Aspatha, 8 Poratha, Adalia, Aridatha, 9 Parmashta, Arisai, Aridai, and Vajezatha— 10 the ten sons of Haman the son of Hammedatha, the enemy of the Jews—they killed; but they did not lay a hand on the plunder. (The Old Covenant is dead!)
11 On that day the number of those who were killed in Shushan the citadel was brought to the king. 12 And the king said to Queen Esther, “The Jews have killed and destroyed five hundred men (Daniel 2) in Shushan the citadel, and the ten sons of Haman. (The old covenant) What have they done in the rest of the king’s provinces? Now what is your petition? It shall be granted to you. Or what is your further request? It shall be done.”
13 Then Esther said, “If it pleases the king, let it be granted to the Jews who are in Shushan to do again tomorrow according to today’s decree, and let Haman’s ten sons be hanged on the gallows.” (Hang the handwriting of ordinances which is against us on the Cross)
14 So the king(GOD) commanded this to be done; the decree was issued in Shushan, and they hanged Haman’s ten sons.
15 And the Jews who were in Shushan gathered together again on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar and killed three hundred men at Shushan; (The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life) but they did not lay a hand on the plunder.
16 The remainder of the Jews in the king’s provinces gathered together and protected their lives, had rest from their enemies, and killed seventy-five thousand of their enemies; but they did not lay a hand on the plunder. 17 This was on the thirteenth day of the month of Adar. And on the fourteenth of the month[a] they rested and made it a day of feasting and gladness.
18 But the Jews who were at Shushan assembled together on the thirteenth day, as well as on the fourteenth; and on the fifteenth of the month they rested, and made it a day of feasting and gladness. (On the third day He rested from His work, and rose from the grave) 19 Therefore the Jews of the villages who dwelt in the unwalled towns celebrated the fourteenth day of the month of Adar with gladness and feasting, as a holiday, and for sending presents to one another. (This is the first resurrection and we are part of that first resurrection)
20 And Mordecai wrote these things and sent letters to all the Jews, near and far, who were in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus, (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Paul, Peter and James) 21 to establish among them that they should celebrate yearly the fourteenth and fifteenth days of the month of Adar, 22 as the days on which the Jews had rest from their enemies, as the month which was turned from sorrow to joy for them, and from mourning to a holiday; that they should make them days of feasting and joy, of sending presents to one another and gifts to the poor. 23 So the Jews accepted the custom which they had begun, as Mordecai had written to them, 24 because Haman, the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had plotted against the Jews to annihilate them, and had cast Pur (that is, the lot), to consume them and destroy them; 25 but when Esther[c] came before the king, he commanded by letter that this wicked plot which Haman had devised against the Jews should return on his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows. (The victory of Calvary defeated “ALL” the works of the devil)
26 So they called these days Purim, after the name Pur. Therefore, because of all the words of this letter, what they had seen concerning this matter, and what had happened to them, 27 the Jews established and imposed it upon themselves and their descendants and all who would join them, that without fail they should celebrate these two days every year, according to the written instructions and according to the prescribed time, 28 that these days should be remembered and kept throughout every generation, every family, every province, and every city, that these days of Purim should not fail to be observed among the Jews, and that the memory of them should not perish among their descendants.
29 Then Queen Esther,(The New Covenant) the daughter of Abihail,(The Holy Spirit) with Mordecai (Jesus) the Jew, wrote with full authority to confirm this second letter about Purim. 30 And Mordecai sent letters to all the Jews, to the one hundred and twenty (360 degrees)-seven provinces (Seven continents) of the kingdom of Ahasuerus, with words of peace and truth, 31 to confirm these days of Purim at their appointed time, as Mordecai the Jew and Queen Esther had prescribed for them, and as they had decreed for themselves and their descendants concerning matters of their fasting and lamenting. 32 So the decree of Esther confirmed these matters of Purim, and it was written in the book.
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OP, if you know the story then you know why it happened. The Devil made a bet with God. The Devil would fuck up Job's life and if Job lost faith in God, then the Devil got his soul. But Job never lost faith and proved that faith in God can and will overcome all the hardships of life.

Now fuck troll.
And it's ironic too
'Cause what we tend to do
Is act on what they say
And then it is that way~Jem.
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Friend, I pray you seek wisdom from The Father in Heaven.

God bless you, In Christ



Esther 10
And King Ahasuerus (God our Father) imposed tribute on the land and on the islands of the sea. 2 Now all the acts of his power and his might, and the account of the greatness of Mordecai, (Jesus Christ) to which the king (The Father) advanced him, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Media and Persia? (Sin and Death)
3 For Mordecai (Jesus Christ) the Jew was second to King Ahasuerus,(The Father) and was great among the Jews and well received by the multitude of his brethren, seeking the good of his people and speaking peace to all his countrymen.


THERE IS NO OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN AND EARTH WHEREBY A MAN MUST BE SAVED>>>>>>> "JESUS CHRIST" IS THAT NAME!
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To the person posting on Esther. You are going off topic.
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To the person posting on Esther. You are going off topic.
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OP asked for this, sorry if you have been offended... really.
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It's no offense I'm Christian as well. And I agree with everything your saying. I just thaught that the topic was about Job and his experience and why and what happened for that experience to take place.
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It's no offense I'm Christian as well. And I agree with everything your saying. I just thaught that the topic was about Job and his experience and why and what happened for that experience to take place.
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Hey Christian friend, Do you have a chapter in Job you would like to discuss?
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Actually I was telling the Op. About the testament of Job I'm curious have you read it. If you havn't read it and let me know what you think.

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1 On the day he became sick and (he) knew that he would have to leave his bodily abode,
he called his seven sons(Seven Churches) and his three daughters (The New Covenant of DOUBLE LOVE, and The Holy Spirit) together and spoke to them as follows:
2 “Form a circle around me,(EARTH) children, and hear, and I shall relate to you what the Lord
did for me and all that happened to me.
(Speak Lord Jesus, your servants are listening)3 For I am Job(Jesus) your father. 4 Know then my
children, that you are the generation of a chosen one and take heed of your noble birth.
(God is speaking to the Christians living in our moment of time!)
5 For I am of the sons of Esau. (I live in human bodies) My brother is Nahor,(The Fire/ The Holy Spirit of Truth) and your mother is Dinah.(The New Covenant) By her
have I become your father.
6 For my first wife died with my other ten children in bitter (The old covenant is DEAD! The Ten Commandments have been satisfied by Jesus Christ great sacrifice)
death. 7 Hear now, children, and I will reveal to you what happened to me.

If you Brothers want to study.... lets see what Jesus wants to speak to us His children. The WORD of God IS ALIVE AND WELL!
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11/20/2012 04:10 PM
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It's no offense I'm Christian as well. And I agree with everything your saying. I just thaught that the topic was about Job and his experience and why and what happened for that experience to take place.
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Hey Christian friend, Do you have a chapter in Job you would like to discuss?
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Thank you it cleared up a lot for me.
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Op do me a favor Post this video and tell me if you like it.

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11/20/2012 06:07 PM
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Op do me a favor Post this video and tell me if you like it.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Very nice.
Thankyou for posting.
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1 On the day he became sick and (he) knew that he would have to leave his bodily abode,
he called his seven sons(Seven Churches) and his three daughters (The New Covenant of DOUBLE LOVE, and The Holy Spirit) together and spoke to them as follows:
2 “Form a circle around me,(EARTH) children, and hear, and I shall relate to you what the Lord
did for me and all that happened to me.
(Speak Lord Jesus, your servants are listening)3 For I am Job(Jesus) your father. 4 Know then my
children, that you are the generation of a chosen one and take heed of your noble birth.
(God is speaking to the Christians living in our moment of time!)
5 For I am of the sons of Esau. (I live in human bodies) My brother is Nahor,(The Fire/ The Holy Spirit of Truth) and your mother is Dinah.(The New Covenant) By her
have I become your father.
6 For my first wife died with my other ten children in bitter (The old covenant is DEAD! The Ten Commandments have been satisfied by Jesus Christ great sacrifice)
death. 7 Hear now, children, and I will reveal to you what happened to me.

If you Brothers want to study.... lets see what Jesus wants to speak to us His children. The WORD of God IS ALIVE AND WELL!
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Hi there

In an earlier post, you said you had some posts about revelations.
Is there any chance you could post them please.
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1 On the day he became sick and (he) knew that he would have to leave his bodily abode,
he called his seven sons(Seven Churches) and his three daughters (The New Covenant of DOUBLE LOVE, and The Holy Spirit) together and spoke to them as follows:
2 “Form a circle around me,(EARTH) children, and hear, and I shall relate to you what the Lord
did for me and all that happened to me.
(Speak Lord Jesus, your servants are listening)3 For I am Job(Jesus) your father. 4 Know then my
children, that you are the generation of a chosen one and take heed of your noble birth.
(God is speaking to the Christians living in our moment of time!)
5 For I am of the sons of Esau. (I live in human bodies) My brother is Nahor,(The Fire/ The Holy Spirit of Truth) and your mother is Dinah.(The New Covenant) By her
have I become your father.
6 For my first wife died with my other ten children in bitter (The old covenant is DEAD! The Ten Commandments have been satisfied by Jesus Christ great sacrifice)
death. 7 Hear now, children, and I will reveal to you what happened to me.

If you Brothers want to study.... lets see what Jesus wants to speak to us His children. The WORD of God IS ALIVE AND WELL!
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Hi there

In an earlier post, you said you had some posts about revelations.
Is there any chance you could post them please.
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Hi back Christian,

I will send some Revelation BUT FIRST TELL ME WHICH CHAPTER YOU WANT.

Since that guy asked me for JOB I have been working on it and am sending it first in a moment
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1 On the day he became sick and (he) knew that he would have to leave his bodily abode,
he called his seven sons(Seven Churches) and his three daughters (The New Covenant of DOUBLE LOVE, and The Holy Spirit) together and spoke to them as follows:
2 “Form a circle around me,(EARTH) children, and hear, and I shall relate to you what the Lord
did for me and all that happened to me.
(Speak Lord Jesus, your servants are listening)3 For I am Job(Jesus) your father. 4 Know then my
children, that you are the generation of a chosen one and take heed of your noble birth.
(God is speaking to the Christians living in our moment of time!)
5 For I am of the sons of Esau. (I live in human bodies) My brother is Nahor,(The Fire/ The Holy Spirit of Truth) and your mother is Dinah.(The New Covenant) By her
have I become your father.
6 For my first wife died with my other ten children in bitter (The old covenant is DEAD! The Ten Commandments have been satisfied by Jesus Christ great sacrifice)
death. 7 Hear now, children, and I will reveal to you what happened to me.

If you Brothers want to study.... lets see what Jesus wants to speak to us His children. The WORD of God IS ALIVE AND WELL!
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Hi there

In an earlier post, you said you had some posts about revelations.
Is there any chance you could post them please.
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Hi back Christian,

I will send some Revelation BUT FIRST TELL ME WHICH CHAPTER YOU WANT.

Since that guy asked me for JOB I have been working on it and am sending it first in a moment
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Hi there,
Any chapter from the beginning to the end is fine with me, I am intrigued by your posts, and it has made me look at the bible in a whole new way.
Its shed some light on the whole Ark of the covenant, the tabernacle of meeting, the lamps etc etc.
Thank you for posting.
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JOB 1



There was a man (JESUS) in the land of Uz, (The Councelor/ HEAVEN) whose name was Job; (JESUS) and that man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God and shunned evil. And seven sons (Seven Churches) and three daughters (The New Covenant of DOUBLE DOUBLE LOVE, and The Holy Spirit) were born to him. 3 Also, his possessions were seven thousand sheep, (All Mankind, His Church) three thousand camels, (Three 3; The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit “Water Bearers for a thirsty land”) five hundred yoke of oxen, (The ten commandments) five hundred female donkeys, (Jesus Christ “””GELDED THE IMAGE "DANIEL 2" AT CALVARY”””…..
“ 1.The World, 2. Sin, 3. Death, 4. The Grave, 5.The Flesh) and a very large household, (All Mankind) so that this man was the greatest of all the people of the East. (From the rising of the sun to the going down of the same, the name of The Lord is to be praised)
4 And his sons (Us humans) would go and feast in their houses, (We are born into this world) each on his appointed day, (At the time God has appointed) and would send (God is with every man if he believes it or not) and invite their three sisters (The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost…..

Acts28:15

And from there, when the brethren heard about us, they came to meet us as far as Appii Forum and Three Inns.

to eat and drink with them. (We are a chosen generation, a Royal Priesthood///He that has The Father has The Son and Holy Spirit) 5 So it was, when the days of feasting had run their course, (After Jesus Christ finished His Mighty Work, wolves entered into The Flock and have wreaked havoc so..) that Job (Jesus) would send and sanctify them, (The Blood is eternal ) and he (Jesus Christ) would rise early (God prophecies so no man can glory) in the morning (We can be certain it is Light when He is the Focus) and offer burnt offerings according (144,000) to the number of them all. (Jesus Poured out His Heart and ceases not His Prayer for us all) For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did regularly. (It is important to kill the deeds of the flesh by The Power Of The Blood. Jesus Christ was shredded beyond human recognition “He died for us, can’t we live for Him”
Now there was a day (A day, hour, month, and year) when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (The mystery of Christ was completely hidden from everyone in Heaven and earth, Satan could not know or we would not be saved right now)7 And the LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.” (Remember Satan’s seed….. “The Old Nature is the fiery red dragon)
8 Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?” (Jesus Christ, Perfect in every way)
9 So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing? (Satan said Jesus doesn’t fear You there are angels protecting Him) 10 Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, (Human beings created in His image) and around all that he has on every side? (The entire 360) You have blessed the work of his hands, (Look at creation and created things, let alone the hidden Kingdom He so wants us all to enter. What an amazing plan our Father has for us all) and his possessions (Us, you and me) have increased in the land. (Earth)11 But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!” (He was wounded for our transgressions……..)
12 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person.”

(Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.”)

So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
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Revelation 8


When He opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. (Heaven turned 180 degrees when The Father looked away from His Son)
(About One half hour = Silence = Heaven remembered ALL SIN since creation and laid it all on Jesus Christ)

And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets. Then another angel, having a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. (Christ hanging on Calvary) He was given much incense, (ALL SIN WAS POURED UPON CHRIST!) that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar (The Cross of Calvary) which was before the throne. And the smoke (The DEATH) of the incense, (Of the SIN) with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand. (From Jesus hand) Then the angel (Jesus) took the censer, (His Body) filled it with fire (SIN) from the altar, (The Cross) and threw it to the earth. (He became sin for you and me dear Christian) And there were noises, thunderings, lightnings, and an earthquake. (Earth began to convulse “reeling like a drunkard” as “The SEED of LIFE” was planted in it “THE BLOOD” and the curse was broken!)
So the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

THE WRATH OF THE FATHER IS POURED OUT ON HIS BELOVED SON

The first angel sounded: And hail and fire (The wrath of God) followed, mingled with blood, (The Blood of Jesus) and they were thrown to the earth. (The Blood of Christ is Omnipotent) And a third of the trees were burned up, (The flesh, 1/3rd of man was crucified with Christ) and all green grass was burned up. (All fallen nature of all mankind were burned up/ destroyed!)


THE POWER OF THE CRUCIFIXION, THE STONE THAT ROLLED DOWN AND CRUSHED THE IMAGE

Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire (Daniel 2) was thrown into the sea, (The world) and a third of the sea became blood. (The power of the flesh to keep us out of Heaven was destroyed) And a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. (The flesh = 1/3rd of man the ship “the house” of the soul and its power over mans spirit was killed)


“IT IS FINISHED”

Then the third angel sounded: And a great star (DEATH) fell from heaven, (The law of sin and death ruled Heaven and earth “DEATH was thrown out of Heaven and fell upon our Savior and King”) burning like a torch, (Burning “like its darkness” was LIGHT) and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. (It fell on “Jesus Christ” and our fallen nature and killed it for eternity) The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died (Every man died, salvation is free for the asking) from the water, because it was made bitter.


Christ body dead (The flesh was defeated) on Calvary descends to Hades to deliver every man from “spiritual” sin and death

Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night. (Darkness “The Grave” is where Jesus took 1/3rd + 1/3rd = 2/3rd = Jesus Christ took the deeds of the flesh and the old nature to Hades and left them there in “OUTER DARKNESS” for all eternity)
And I looked, and I heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, “Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound!”
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Hey friend, I am tired and need to quit for tonight.
I will wait a few moments to see if you respond so we can somehow get to a place I can mail all I have to you.

Other wise when you post so you can get MY attn;


write in all caps "THIS WILL CHANGE THE WORLD" and I will type it in and find you....hope that makes sense
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Hey friend, I am tired and need to quit for tonight.
I will wait a few moments to see if you respond so we can somehow get to a place I can mail all I have to you.

Other wise when you post so you can get MY attn;


write in all caps "THIS WILL CHANGE THE WORLD" and I will type it in and find you....hope that makes sense
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Sure

Thankyou for all of this.
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there is no hell. Christians are not qualified to explain anything in the corrupted bible. And the being called Satan, is not on the planet anymore, he was removed about 100 years ago. Lucifer was removed 2000 years ago. there are still plenty of dark antichrists though.
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bsflag

Any fool that listens to this clown will be condemned. He's a jehovah's witness fraud.

He calls the bible corrupt, rewrites it, and applauds the New World Order constantly. He is NOT of God, no matter what his phony name says.


You are warned.
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what?!? She is not a Jehovah's Witness!

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