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Why are people so positively sure that their religion is true???? RELIGITARDS MUST READ

 
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The original texts were not written in English. It is hard for me to believe that during the long sequential process of translating the book from Hebrew to Latin and eventually to the current state of English, that there was no major errors.
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The OT Hebrew was preserved among the Hebrews. The NT Greek was preserved among the Greek Orthodox until the Reformation 1517 translation to German & English.

KJV NT origins

[link to conservapedia.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

(chart)
[link to bibles4free.com]

KJV OT origins

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

ms history

[link to www.biblebelievers.com]



KJV History


[link to www.youtube.com]
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The original texts were not written in English. It is hard for me to believe that during the long sequential process of translating the book from Hebrew to Latin and eventually to the current state of English, that there was no major errors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13950156


The OT Hebrew was preserved among the Hebrews. The NT Greek was preserved among the Greek Orthodox until the Reformation 1517 translation to German & English.

KJV NT origins

[link to conservapedia.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

(chart)
[link to bibles4free.com]

KJV OT origins

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

ms history

[link to www.biblebelievers.com]



KJV History


[link to www.youtube.com]
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so. is mssr. hovind still serving his sentence?
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Your brain dosn't choose your religion, your soul does. Yes it all depends on where your soul comes from. The Dier, (pronounced jer) is the worst soul to have for planet earth because it loves war and other types of destruction.

This type of soul is running riot on Earth at the moment,but it's time is coming to an end and it will be taken back to it's original home.

Don't worry no-one will die, unless with their new soul they self terminate, when they face the horrors they have caused.

Religious or not if a Dier soul is within you, you will cause alot of grief unless your brain can overcome it.

Have you got a soul-dier in you ????
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Why would god give us the ability to question if he didnt want us to use it?
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YES! And why would god give us a lot of another things like feelings, consciousness, clitoris (oops) if these things get only in the way of our true believing in him? If I was god and wanted people to worship me, I would have done it differently...
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I as a free-will thinking human, reserve my right to study, research, practice & believe as I see fit, according to my desires to understand my life & the Universe in which I am a part of. I assert my divine right to recoil from any one person or group that tries to influence or control my right to my particular beliefs in any way. I also understand my responsibility to not try to influence or control others in their chosen practices or beliefs. In this manner, I will respect all sentient beings in my communications on such matters & not allow my ego to unduly take hold & overrule others in order to be "right".


This then is the divine sovereign right of all human beings.
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so. is mssr. hovind still serving his sentence?
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Christians are in prison & persecuted all over the world. The claim is that Hovind's tax exempt ministry failed to pay taxes. US Tax Courts are notoriously rigged.

Only a Communist would revel in the imprisonment of tax exempt minister for taxes. Communists have no interest in the truth. They are politically motivated.

The topic was the Bible. Hovind's work is still relevant no matter where he is today.
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so. is mssr. hovind still serving his sentence?
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Christians are in prison & persecuted all over the world. The claim is that Hovind's tax exempt ministry failed to pay taxes. US Tax Courts are notoriously rigged.

Only a Communist would revel in the imprisonment of tax exempt minister for taxes. Communists have no interest in the truth. They are politically motivated.

The topic was the Bible. Hovind's work is still relevant no matter where he is today.
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i agree with you , there are christians being persecuted even executed with out cause across the globe. this is also happening to people from other major religions
however Kent Hovind is where he belongs.
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I am probably one of the rare few that realizes the more that I know, the more that I know I don't know much of anything.

What I find funny though, is the hypocrisy of the "scientific" atheist types, who profess that these religious folks must be idiots for believing that their religion is the one true religion....but then go on to tell everyone exactly what happened 4 and a half billion years ago with a straight face.

And though I realize that I really don't know much at all, anytime I see someone spout bullshit statistics about IQ, I know I'm dealing with a retard.
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Socrates said it best!

"wisdom is knowing how little we know"
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Humans are just beginning to scratch the surface of the realities and physics of the universe. Even the most intelligent people to ever live still knew relatively nothing. Its funny how the more religious someone is the lower their I.Q. is, (as displayed by link). A lot of the problems in the world are caused by these less intelligent people riling each other up and using illegitimate justification to do away with people who don't have the same systems of belief. With all the complexities and loop holes of this illusion we call reality, (and how little we know about it) it is perplexing to me how anyone could be 100 percent sure that their beliefs and way of life are correct. It is perplexing to me that people can be 100 percent sure of anything.


shows [link to www.christplagiarized.com]
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Yet you profess your 'religion", that this is all an illusion.

So how come you are so sure you are right and they are wrong?
How do you know that they are not just misunderstood "Einstein types", and you are the dunce?

It's because every body believes what they choose to believe and are 100 percent sure they are right!!!!
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Yes I do believe that reality is an illusion. That was one of the points of the original post. My reasons to believe that is, reality is defined by the analysis of sensory perception. We believe what we are seeing, hearing, etc. is real but really those products of our senses are just chemical reactions in the brain. That is one reason why I stated earlier " there is no such thing as the truth because the truth is subject to conscious interpretation". On the whole reality is created by the mind. Also I am not 100 percent sure of anything and I don't believe you should be 100 percent sure of anything at all. You must have misinterpreted my original post. The world is not black and white.
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You say believe that reality is not real. So that is YOUR "Religion".
Yet you accuse others for what they believe.

If, "On the whole reality is created by the mind", as you stated, then all beliefs are correct!
so quit knocking other peoples belief!!!!!!!!
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Sir, there are no errors in the Bible regardless of translation. The Bible is easily paralleled. However, if you can prove your alleged innacuracies, please do so.
The Bible can't be inaccurate simply because you say so, proof must rendered.
I've pretty much read every version and can easily attest to their consistency. Obviously, there may be some minor details not 100% translatable, but the context is never lost. Now, please don't take my word, it is very easy to traverse the Internet to find data that backs my claim up.
If I had a nickel for every non-beliver that has used your 'Bible has been rewritten' claim, I'd be a millionaire.
If that was the case, this anti-Christ world would've put the scripture to sleep a long time ago.
If Jesus had not risen from the dead, his body would have been taken and dragged throughout the streets of Jerusalem, and we'd be reading about it today, or would not have ever known Jesus (I believe the latter). There'd be no church, as the church and those who died spreading the Gospel (who would die for a lie?), would not be here either.
The scripture is backed by very significant archeological evidence, do your research, as it is indisputable.
Everything that the prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and Paul did catapulted the church to the reality you see today. Paul stated that 'had Christ not died and risen, our faith would've been futile (1 Cor. 15:17), or we are all liars. It would take way more faith for me to believe your claim, so I'll stick with Christ, his story is worth the risk, not your story.
Please don't make the mistake of dying in your sins, just because you haven't done your own research. Please, don't take someone elses boxed un-belief and use it as your own. Search the scripture, and pray that Jesus reveals himself to you, then see what happens.
Everybody prays under fire in foxholes, everybody!!!!!
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The original texts were not written in English. It is hard for me to believe that during the long sequential process of translating the book from Hebrew to Latin and eventually to the current state of English, that there was no major errors.
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Sir, the Bible is accurate, but not perfect. God, never intended a perfect Bible, as he is not interested in us worshiping the Bible.
Now, as for his word, it is perfect, and he is infinite and all powerful. So, I have no problem trusting that his word will get through to those who seek it. Now, as I stated, there are always gong to be minute details lost in translation, but the original context holds fast. If that isn't true, I'd like for someone to take a particular verse then prove how it could lose its context over any one, or more translations. There are far too many incredible scholars surrounding this faith, with a commitment to insure the accuracy of his word, not some document.
There is much evidence of rogue Bibles, but most, if not all, have been destroyed.
Now, my goal is not to convince you that the scripture is his innerable, infallible word, as I am convinced. My goal is to kick you, and all else, who don't believe to do your own research.
I'm just warning the followers, who have jumped on some bandwaggon not to allow someone else to jeopardize their soul. That pulling on your heart, that has you questioning this, is not some mere curiosity...it is a internal knowlege already placed there (Rom. 2:15), and it moves you to say or do something. Otherwise, who cares if I and others believe?
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What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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The fact is, no one really knows anything. Sometimes their ego can make them feel superior.

In most societies people just gravitate to other people that think like them. they hate what they fear and many belief systems are just a means to control people.
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The problem is people are afraid to be open-minded or are just simply not! people hate to be wrong and if mamma,daddy & grandma believed it it must be true! (not cough cough) some just want to argue.. most just don't know how to feel things out or their not in-tune with that. we have the power ourselves to do allot of what you would think must be god!

my opinion..
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Too afraid to find out the truth on their own.
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Yes...but what truth?

The only truth I know is that we were born and we will die.

A pity we spill so much time. But then, what is spilling time?
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So, would you tell your child that on their death bed?
Faith is something hoped for, so at the very least, I'd like to believe that you would want more than the scenario you just described.
Jesus, at least, gave us a happy ending. Death, in itself, is evil...it erases, it rubs out, it forever dissapears its victim. So, your scenario spells hopelessness.
It would be a shame if millions of aborted babies were never redeemed, or any innocent victim for that matter.
So, Hitler and Mao got away with murder, as far as you're concerned. They were able to come into this world, then rub out millions, and it meant nothing...they are not accountable? Once again...hoplessness.
I'm sorry, even physics tells us that for every action, there is a reaction.

So, if I took you out, and got away with it...tough luck for you. Good for me, because I'm not accountable anyway, unless I'm caught (but I still get to live in prison)


DON'T DIE IN YOUR SINS, OR WORST...UNBELIEF (THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN)...
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so. is mssr. hovind still serving his sentence?
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Christians are in prison & persecuted all over the world. The claim is that Hovind's tax exempt ministry failed to pay taxes. US Tax Courts are notoriously rigged.

Only a Communist would revel in the imprisonment of tax exempt minister for taxes. Communists have no interest in the truth. They are politically motivated.

The topic was the Bible. Hovind's work is still relevant no matter where he is today.
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i agree with you , there are christians being persecuted even executed with out cause across the globe. this is also happening to people from other major religions
however Kent Hovind is where he belongs.
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Let me tell you why Kent Hovind lost his tax exempt status, so you won't think all creationist or Christians deserve to be in prison. As I understand it, Kent included in his seven part lecture a segment on a book he sold about the tax protesting 'scarecrow man', where it is claimed Americans are not really citizens libel to tax law due to upper case name spellings ect. -- this has nothing to do with Christianity and when included turned the lecture into a tax protest. Kent was exempt from taxes due to being a ministry, but telling the public they were exempt was the problem.

Then apparently a local Florida University professor who did not like Kent turned him in for this tax protest segment.

Kent and his wife were ultimately found guilty of failing to withhold ministry employee taxes and structured banking deposits.
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Your brain dosn't choose your religion, your soul does. Yes it all depends on where your soul comes from. The Dier, (pronounced jer) is the worst soul to have for planet earth because it loves war and other types of destruction.

This type of soul is running riot on Earth at the moment,but it's time is coming to an end and it will be taken back to it's original home.

Don't worry no-one will die, unless with their new soul they self terminate, when they face the horrors they have caused.

Religious or not if a Dier soul is within you, you will cause alot of grief unless your brain can overcome it.

Have you got a soul-dier in you ????
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where did this come from, first time I have seen such a thing. soul is soul, depends on advancement of it There is however on earth, AI beings who have no god soul and that is an issue. Some wish to destroy god because they are not of it. it is these Artificial Intelligence beings that try to possess humans. and there has been a goodly amount of special efforts to prevent that.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/20/2012 05:47 PM
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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so. is mssr. hovind still serving his sentence?
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Christians are in prison & persecuted all over the world. The claim is that Hovind's tax exempt ministry failed to pay taxes. US Tax Courts are notoriously rigged.

Only a Communist would revel in the imprisonment of tax exempt minister for taxes. Communists have no interest in the truth. They are politically motivated.

The topic was the Bible. Hovind's work is still relevant no matter where he is today.
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i agree with you , there are christians being persecuted even executed with out cause across the globe. this is also happening to people from other major religions
however Kent Hovind is where he belongs.
 Quoting: david 16910407


Let me tell you why Kent Hovind lost his tax exempt status, so you won't think all creationist or Christians deserve to be in prison. As I understand it, Kent included in his seven part lecture a segment on a book he sold about the tax protesting 'scarecrow man', where it is claimed Americans are not really citizens libel to tax law due to upper case name spellings ect. -- this has nothing to do with Christianity and when included turned the lecture into a tax protest. Kent was exempt from taxes due to being a ministry, but telling the public they were exempt was the problem.

Then apparently a local Florida University professor who did not like Kent turned him in for this tax protest segment.

Kent and his wife were ultimately found guilty of failing to withhold ministry employee taxes and structured banking deposits.
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i do not believe that christians or creationists belong in jail.
why would i?
they have their beliefs, so do i, and although we may differ, certainly, not a reason for anyone to be punished, here or hereafter.

however, imho, kent hovind belongs in a special group.
those who would, with cheesy smiles and vague promises of redemption, pry crumpled dollar bills from the balled fists of dowagers and impoverished pensioneers.

little caring that those they flummox , live lives of comparative paucity, they compound their "sins" by claiming bogus tax exemptions .

personally my own beliefs about god do not include hell.

but if christians are correct, i feel that there is a special room for "ministers" such as hovind et al. right next door to the priests who sexually abuse little boys.
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they aren't.

they just use it as a platform to address their insecurities.
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Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? These more than 2000 year old scrolls where found in a cave and have been studied by thousands of scientists.
They contain most of the Old Testament and when compared to a modern translation only a few minor differences are found.
This scientifically puts to rest that the Bible has been altered over the centuries.
God certainly watches over His word.
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Sir, there are no errors in the Bible regardless of translation. The Bible is easily paralleled. However, if you can prove your alleged innacuracies, please do so.
The Bible can't be inaccurate simply because you say so, proof must rendered.
I've pretty much read every version and can easily attest to their consistency. Obviously, there may be some minor details not 100% translatable, but the context is never lost. Now, please don't take my word, it is very easy to traverse the Internet to find data that backs my claim up.
If I had a nickel for every non-beliver that has used your 'Bible has been rewritten' claim, I'd be a millionaire.
If that was the case, this anti-Christ world would've put the scripture to sleep a long time ago.
If Jesus had not risen from the dead, his body would have been taken and dragged throughout the streets of Jerusalem, and we'd be reading about it today, or would not have ever known Jesus (I believe the latter). There'd be no church, as the church and those who died spreading the Gospel (who would die for a lie?), would not be here either.
The scripture is backed by very significant archeological evidence, do your research, as it is indisputable.
Everything that the prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and Paul did catapulted the church to the reality you see today. Paul stated that 'had Christ not died and risen, our faith would've been futile (1 Cor. 15:17), or we are all liars. It would take way more faith for me to believe your claim, so I'll stick with Christ, his story is worth the risk, not your story.
Please don't make the mistake of dying in your sins, just because you haven't done your own research. Please, don't take someone elses boxed un-belief and use it as your own. Search the scripture, and pray that Jesus reveals himself to you, then see what happens.
Everybody prays under fire in foxholes, everybody!!!!!
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The original texts were not written in English. It is hard for me to believe that during the long sequential process of translating the book from Hebrew to Latin and eventually to the current state of English, that there was no major errors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13950156


God, never intended a perfect Bible, as he is not interested in us worshiping the Bible.

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Why would god give us the ability to question if he didnt want us to use it?
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Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? These more than 2000 year old scrolls where found in a cave and have been studied by thousands of scientists.
They contain most of the Old Testament and when compared to a modern translation only a few minor differences are found.
This scientifically puts to rest that the Bible has been altered over the centuries.
God certainly watches over His word.
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Oh you silly gullible sheeple!! Go find the book entitled "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception", read it and then make a decision.

Description:

The oldest Biblical manuscripts in existence, the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in caves near Jerusalem in 1947, only to be kept a tightly held secret for nearly fifty more years, until the Huntington Library unleashed a storm of controversy in 1991 by releasing copies of the Scrolls. In this gripping investigation authors Baigent and Leigh set out to discover how a small coterie of orthodox biblical scholars gained control over the Scrolls, allowing access to no outsiders and issuing a strict "consensus" interpretation.

The authors' questions begin in Israel, then lead them to the corridors of the Vatican and into the offices of the Inquisition. With the help of independent scholars, historical research, and careful analysis of available texts, the authors reveal what was at stake for these orthodox guardians: The Scrolls present startling insights into early Christianity—insights that challenge the Church's version of the "facts."

More than just a dramatic expose of the intrigues surrounding these priceless documents, The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception presents nothing less than a new, highly significant perspective on Christianity.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? These more than 2000 year old scrolls where found in a cave and have been studied by thousands of scientists.
They contain most of the Old Testament and when compared to a modern translation only a few minor differences are found.
This scientifically puts to rest that the Bible has been altered over the centuries.
God certainly watches over His word.
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The Deception:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? These more than 2000 year old scrolls where found in a cave and have been studied by thousands of scientists.
They contain most of the Old Testament and when compared to a modern translation only a few minor differences are found.
This scientifically puts to rest that the Bible has been altered over the centuries.
God certainly watches over His word.
 Quoting: Tekunda 28166825


The Scandal:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Sir, there are no errors in the Bible regardless of translation. The Bible is easily paralleled. However, if you can prove your alleged innacuracies, please do so.
The Bible can't be inaccurate simply because you say so, proof must rendered.
I've pretty much read every version and can easily attest to their consistency. Obviously, there may be some minor details not 100% translatable, but the context is never lost. Now, please don't take my word, it is very easy to traverse the Internet to find data that backs my claim up.
If I had a nickel for every non-beliver that has used your 'Bible has been rewritten' claim, I'd be a millionaire.
If that was the case, this anti-Christ world would've put the scripture to sleep a long time ago.
If Jesus had not risen from the dead, his body would have been taken and dragged throughout the streets of Jerusalem, and we'd be reading about it today, or would not have ever known Jesus (I believe the latter). There'd be no church, as the church and those who died spreading the Gospel (who would die for a lie?), would not be here either.
The scripture is backed by very significant archeological evidence, do your research, as it is indisputable.
Everything that the prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and Paul did catapulted the church to the reality you see today. Paul stated that 'had Christ not died and risen, our faith would've been futile (1 Cor. 15:17), or we are all liars. It would take way more faith for me to believe your claim, so I'll stick with Christ, his story is worth the risk, not your story.
Please don't make the mistake of dying in your sins, just because you haven't done your own research. Please, don't take someone elses boxed un-belief and use it as your own. Search the scripture, and pray that Jesus reveals himself to you, then see what happens.
Everybody prays under fire in foxholes, everybody!!!!!
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It's a kind of instinct...that's all. Do you agree?
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actually, I never thought to pray when I was dealing with a health crisis nor when I have had to confront dangerous situations...

it was in the course of researching health and healing myself that I came to believe in God and Jesus Christ...

realizing how corrupt the medical field is was a great lesson, among many...

that said, OP needs to really research all sides of the bible research already carried out... lots of profound info in that one topic alone...

:)

Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ
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Re: Why are people so positively sure that their religion is true???? RELIGITARDS MUST READ
I like to go to book stores and help them out. I move the Bibles to the Fiction section.

It's easy to have fictional prophecies fulfilled by fictional characters. Robert Jordon's "Wheel of Time" is an excellent example. A close second is the bible.

Religion is used to control you. Break your chains and be Free. There is no evidence that anything claimed in the big religions is fact.

The pope is still running the Roman Empire, it never "fell", it just reorganized.

God never said "let there be a religion that tells you how to live, who to kill, and takes your money."

God Speaks to men seeking enlightenment (plants help). The plants are illegal because religion would lose its control if men chose to be free.
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Tyranny Law #1:
"Any power that can be abused will be abused."

Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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Re: Why are people so positively sure that their religion is true???? RELIGITARDS MUST READ
Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? These more than 2000 year old scrolls where found in a cave and have been studied by thousands of scientists.
They contain most of the Old Testament and when compared to a modern translation only a few minor differences are found.
This scientifically puts to rest that the Bible has been altered over the centuries.
God certainly watches over His word.
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Oh you silly gullible sheeple!! Go find the book entitled "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception", read it and then make a decision.

Description:

The oldest Biblical manuscripts in existence, the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in caves near Jerusalem in 1947, only to be kept a tightly held secret for nearly fifty more years, until the Huntington Library unleashed a storm of controversy in 1991 by releasing copies of the Scrolls. In this gripping investigation authors Baigent and Leigh set out to discover how a small coterie of orthodox biblical scholars gained control over the Scrolls, allowing access to no outsiders and issuing a strict "consensus" interpretation.

The authors' questions begin in Israel, then lead them to the corridors of the Vatican and into the offices of the Inquisition. With the help of independent scholars, historical research, and careful analysis of available texts, the authors reveal what was at stake for these orthodox guardians: The Scrolls present startling insights into early Christianity—insights that challenge the Church's version of the "facts."

More than just a dramatic expose of the intrigues surrounding these priceless documents, The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception presents nothing less than a new, highly significant perspective on Christianity.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Read John Allegro - scholar, once the "Preeminent" authority on Dead sea scroll research. He told the truth of what they said. (& it isn't pretty for the religious -tards).
THREE LAWS OF TYRANNY


Tyranny Law #1:
"Any power that can be abused will be abused."

Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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Re: Why are people so positively sure that their religion is true???? RELIGITARDS MUST READ
I like to go to book stores and help them out. I move the Bibles to the Fiction section.
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The Bible is confirmed repeatedly with a long HISTORY & SCIENCE.

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