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Christians, and their Misunderstanding of the Prophecy of Messiah.

 
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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

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Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: Moshiach is not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
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The consciousness of fall is the reflection of the egoless state of the fish, in its natural medium of water, when forced to reveal itself on dry land. This is like the experience of a hidden tzadik when forced from Above to reveal himself for the good of Israel and the world. We find this exemplified in the life and teachings of the Ba'al Shem Tov, and so will be epitomized in the life of Mashiach.

Ultimately, the "destiny" of Mashiach and his generation is to assume the level of sea on earth, to experience, paradoxically, selfless-self-consciousness, as said in the verse of Isaiah with which Maimonides concludes his Code of Jewish Law (whose final section, "The Laws of Kings," culminates with the description of the coming of Mashiach): "for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of God, like waters cover the sea."

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From Gnostic Author).

The first day of Jonah within the great fish (Leviathan-Lucifer) is the First Mountain of Initiation, Alchemical Birth. The second day is the Second Mountain, Mystical Death, at the end of which is Resurrection. The third day within the great fish (Leviathan-Lucifer) is the Third Mountain, Sacrifice. Thus, after three days Jonah is a resurrected Master. He lives in harmony with the Great Law and is ready to do the work of his Father as an awakened avatar of the Christ. He is “vomited” upon dry land, because he is no longer permitted to work within the waters of Alchemy. The proper use of the sexual force that was utilized to create the Twice Born is now prohibited to him. The work of the seven days of creation of the true Human Being is complete and the sex belongs to the Monad now.

Remember the Saviors of countless traditions who were cast into the waters as infants: Moses, Perseus, Karttikeya, Romulus and Remus, Maui, etc. Nor should it be forgotten the many Saviors born from stone (the philosophic stone/liquid stone of Mercury = the waters of Yesod): the Persian Mithras, the Babylonian Enkidu, the Chinese Qi, the earliest Norse Gods, etc. The ApacheSavior is even named “Child-of–the Water” as a direct reference to the means of his (Alchemical) birth. It is within the waters (of Yesod) that the real Human Being is born.
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A PLEA FOR MOSHIACH

BY APOLLO


Studies of the Hebrew Prophecies..


Moshiach is Hebrew for Messiah. Moshiach means the “the anointed one" in Hebrew. And it is a core belief in Judaism, but seldom learned by Christians of the West. Those that have faith in Moshiach feel it as strongly as Christians have faith in Jesus. The jewish people do not believe Jesus was the Messiah, rather they see the future Savior of Mankind as a great teacher, King and Soldier of Righteousness, "Tzedek" that influences our lives directly, making abudance touch wherever he touches and blessings to shower our material world and build his temple "Beit HaMikdash" We do not have to wait to out death to ever have hope of seeing Moshiach, Moshiach will not appear to us after we pass this earthly time, He is to come while humanity is alive and calling out !

"Tikkun Olam" is the healing of the world in the world to come, "Olam Habah"

You do not have to be Jewish to let Moshiach bless your life, cause he will free mankind into a state of bliss knowing their creator G-d who cannot have a name, He is the infallible one, the one whose name. (HaShem) is beyond our limited understand, but we may draw close to him none the less. He does not cast souls into hell. forbid the study of stars, nor say this earth is beyond redemption, G-d wants us to be happy now ! And enjoy the fruitages of earth now !

Here is the Belief number 12 of the Mainmonides Thirteen Principles of Faith That speaks of Moshiach

Principle XII. The era of the Messiah

And this is to believe that in truth that he will come and that you should be waiting for him even though he delays in coming. And you should not calculate times for him to come, or to look in the verses of Tanach to see when he should come. The sages say: The wisdom of those who calculate times [of his coming] is small and that you should believe that he will be greater and more honored than all of the kings of Israel since the beginning of time as it is prophesied by all the prophets from Moses our teacher, peace be upon him, until Malachi, peace be upon him. And he who doubts or diminishes the greatness of the Messiah is a denier in all the Torah for it testifies to the Messiah explicitly in the portion of Bilam and the portion of “You are gathered (towards the end of Deut)”. And part of this principle that there is no king of Israel except from the house of David and from the seed of Solomon alone. And anyone who disputes this regarding this family is a denier of the name of God and in all the words of the prophets.

Heaven is here on earth, The Tanach describes the temple.in II Chronicles.

3:3- "The length by cubits after the ancient measure was threescore cubits, and the breadth twenty cubits".
3:4- "And the porch that was before the house, the length of it, according to the breadth of the house, was twenty cubits, and the height a hundred and twenty; and he overlaid it within with pure gold."

And likewise , we shall have beautiful sound homes and dwelling places and food and peace when the Moshiach touches our lives and blesses us with the bounty. God did not want us to lack in anything .

QOUTE:

In every generation there is a scion of the House of David who has the potential to be the Moshiach



-Apollo
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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I hope you enjoyed this little piece of Jewish study. Awareness can bring unity, world peace. Christians have created bad guys in their doctrines. When one dives into the MYSTIC study of Judaism , there is no bad guys. Its all based on our personal responsibility and self development unto God.

It is based on heart condition, not nationality.

It is a prepping of the soul that brings awareness to all that is on the tree of life..
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
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cont..

The consciousness of fall is the reflection of the egoless state of the fish, in its natural medium of water, when forced to reveal itself on dry land. This is like the experience of a hidden tzadik when forced from Above to reveal himself for the good of Israel and the world. We find this exemplified in the life and teachings of the Ba'al Shem Tov, and so will be epitomized in the life of Mashiach.

Ultimately, the "destiny" of Mashiach and his generation is to assume the level of sea on earth, to experience, paradoxically, selfless-self-consciousness, as said in the verse of Isaiah with which Maimonides concludes his Code of Jewish Law (whose final section, "The Laws of Kings," culminates with the description of the coming of Mashiach): "for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of God, like waters cover the sea."

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My commentary regarding "Nun"

Now in the study of Nun, Which is usually the sign correspondence of Scorpio, we can also be taken into the slander of the Devil goat. Capricorn . The sign of the zodiac in the western zodiac after Winter Solstice and Christmas is the goat fish, or sea goat which was also erroneously slandered as Baphomet...

He is the beast to rise up out of the sea, the cleansing of our inner conscience...

NUN btw has the pathway of Tipareth to Netzach, Number 13 in the arcana, sign of Scorpio, (water sign)
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Samech is the transformation/transmutation that takes place over the Galactic Center.

Using Gods Merciful hand, the Moshiach is descended , immersed into Temperance, unto the daughter of the reconciler. the Bringer forth of life..

It is under Ayin, the Devil, that the child looks upon himself and realizes he is the Child of the force of time and the Lord of the Gates of Matter..
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Well, interest in Spiritual study outside of Christianity seems to be lacking, Ill leave you all with this, PRAY FOR PEACE, LOVE is the HIGHEST ORDER.. God is the reconciler of all. We share one planet as a people..

Im a little rusty getting back into posts, Ill have a lot of astro theology studies for Easter and Pesach 2013. I seem to have writers block this season.

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Apollo, the Greeks believed that each person is twinned with a daimon or "genius" that assists them in their incarnation mission. Socrates believed his genius always told him what not to do or say. Do you believe the daimon of Mashiach is Apollyon?
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Apollo, the Greeks believed that each person is twinned with a daimon or "genius" that assists them in their incarnation mission. Socrates believed his genius always told him what not to do or say. Do you believe the daimon of Mashiach is Apollyon?
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Hello Friend, In Judaism , the helper is called IBBUR. a mischievious spirit is called Dybbuk..

But the goal is to get Ibbur while being Tzedek.. A Ibbur will not go into a unrighteous person that does not want to change.

You have to meet it halfway so to speak. and be Tob, which is pleasing or good.

The Genius that infused knowledge in the host who has surrendered to knowledge gains strength..

About the daimon of Moshiach, it is believed he will be Moshe (Moses) or King David. The spirit of Moshe of David will be returned as Moshiach

Apollyon is a possibility if one considers the secret of Revelation in the new testament. I will get into this in a bit.
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I hope you enjoyed this little piece of Jewish study. Awareness can bring unity, world peace. Christians have created bad guys in their doctrines. When one dives into the MYSTIC study of Judaism , there is no bad guys. Its all based on our personal responsibility and self development unto God.

It is based on heart condition, not nationality.

It is a prepping of the soul that brings awareness to all that is on the tree of life..
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Wait,. I just remembered, the best way to describe Apollyon is approach it from the Abyss or Abussos which is again, taking us back to the water. I will explain why this is so...
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I hope you enjoyed this little piece of Jewish study. Awareness can bring unity, world peace. Christians have created bad guys in their doctrines. When one dives into the MYSTIC study of Judaism , there is no bad guys. Its all based on our personal responsibility and self development unto God.

It is based on heart condition, not nationality.

It is a prepping of the soul that brings awareness to all that is on the tree of life..
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Your threads are always enjoyable. Thank you. hf
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Hi Indigo, thank you friend ! grouphug
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Apollo, the Greeks believed that each person is twinned with a daimon or "genius" that assists them in their incarnation mission. Socrates believed his genius always told him what not to do or say. Do you believe the daimon of Mashiach is Apollyon?
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(NOTE: Tradition Judaism will not use New Testament verses, I am Independant however to unlock the theories and will use them here in my study)

BY APOLLO

PART ONE is here.
Thread: SUPER CONJUNCTION ...Morning of May 20th, then Evening Eclipse. Nibiru the Destroyer King !!!!!! The Inner Mystery Now Revealed

This is a Interlude introduction to the Bible passage:

In Revelation we are introduced to Apollyon, who has the key to the bottomless pit. Apollymi can be found in James 4:12 which mentions the Lawgiver and the judge. ONE THERE IS A LAWGIVER AND JUDGE, he who is able to save and to destroy.

Apollyon is translated as "destroyer." Its Hebrew version being Abaddon. The Abyss to which he holds the key is given " "abussos" for the bottomless pit in Greek, it still just refers to bottomless pit, or deep pit,


We will need comparisons in Hebrew to de mystify this passage,

This one of my favorites , first things I learned about Abussos.



Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'


(The beginning of the Eighth Day)


Springs of the Great Deep - 2nd month 17th day in Noah’s 600th year.
Genesis 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep "Tehom" broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."


Bottomless pit is simply the ocean. (Exodus 20:4; Deut 5:8).
He is the beast that rises from the ocean.



REVELATION 11:7 When they [the two witnesses] have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the Abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them. (NASU)


REVELATION 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is to ascend from the bottomless pit and go to perdition . . . (RSV)


REVELATION 13:1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea . . . (NKJV)


Revelation 11:7 and 17:8 are referring to Abaddon as the "beast" who will ascend from the "bottomless pit." What we Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'"
There is a movie called, THE ABYSS, by James Cameron who was noted to work on the Lost Tomb of Jesus side by side with Israeli Antiquities.

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Revelations
Chapter 9



9:11 The fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from the sky which had fallen to the earth. The key to the pit of the abyss was given to him.

9:2 He opened the pit of the abyss, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke from a burning furnace. The sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke from the pit.

9:3 Then out of the smoke came forth locusts on the earth, and power was given to them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

9:4 They were told that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only those people who don't have God's seal on their foreheads.

9:5 They were given power not to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion, when it strikes a person.

9:6 In those days people will seek death, and will in no way find it. They will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

9:7 The shapes of the locusts were like horses prepared for war. On their heads were something like golden crowns, and their faces were like people's faces.

9:8 They had hair like women's hair, and their teeth were like those of lions.

9:9 They had breastplates, like breastplates of iron. The sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots, or of many horses rushing to war.

9:10 They have tails like those of scorpions, and stings. In their tails they have power to harm men for five months.

9:11 They have over them as king the angel of the abyss. His name in Hebrew is "Abaddon," but in Greek, he has the name "Apollyon."



QOUTE:

Apollyon/Abbadon is based on Kalki (the Destroyer). He rides on a white horse .


Yes, Apollyon is the rider of the White Horse



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Apollo, the Greeks believed that each person is twinned with a daimon or "genius" that assists them in their incarnation mission. Socrates believed his genius always told him what not to do or say. Do you believe the daimon of Mashiach is Apollyon?
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Hello Friend, In Judaism , the helper is called IBBUR. a mischievious spirit is called Dybbuk..

But the goal is to get Ibbur while being Tzedek.. A Ibbur will not go into a unrighteous person that does not want to change.

You have to meet it halfway so to speak. and be Tob, which is pleasing or good.

The Genius that infused knowledge in the host who has surrendered to knowledge gains strength..

About the daimon of Moshiach, it is believed he will be Moshe (Moses) or King David. The spirit of Moshe of David will be returned as Moshiach

Apollyon is a possibility if one considers the secret of Revelation in the new testament. I will get into this in a bit.
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Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
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Apollo, the Greeks believed that each person is twinned with a daimon or "genius" that assists them in their incarnation mission. Socrates believed his genius always told him what not to do or say. Do you believe the daimon of Mashiach is Apollyon?
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Hello Friend, In Judaism , the helper is called IBBUR. a mischievious spirit is called Dybbuk..

But the goal is to get Ibbur while being Tzedek.. A Ibbur will not go into a unrighteous person that does not want to change.

You have to meet it halfway so to speak. and be Tob, which is pleasing or good.

The Genius that infused knowledge in the host who has surrendered to knowledge gains strength..

About the daimon of Moshiach, it is believed he will be Moshe (Moses) or King David. The spirit of Moshe of David will be returned as Moshiach

Apollyon is a possibility if one considers the secret of Revelation in the new testament. I will get into this in a bit.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
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Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
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thanks for the read apollo

please dont threaten to smother any flames again.

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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
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Mati is Greek for eye.

There are a zillion words for snake in Greek, including ophis and herpeton.

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I don't see how those terms fit with the Gnostics and the Garden of Eden myth.

Why be so cryptic? Just say what you mean.
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Apollo, the Greeks believed that each person is twinned with a daimon or "genius" that assists them in their incarnation mission. Socrates believed his genius always told him what not to do or say. Do you believe the daimon of Mashiach is Apollyon?
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Hello Friend, In Judaism , the helper is called IBBUR. a mischievious spirit is called Dybbuk..

But the goal is to get Ibbur while being Tzedek.. A Ibbur will not go into a unrighteous person that does not want to change.

You have to meet it halfway so to speak. and be Tob, which is pleasing or good.

The Genius that infused knowledge in the host who has surrendered to knowledge gains strength..

About the daimon of Moshiach, it is believed he will be Moshe (Moses) or King David. The spirit of Moshe of David will be returned as Moshiach

Apollyon is a possibility if one considers the secret of Revelation in the new testament. I will get into this in a bit.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5742644


Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
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Yea, let's worship the creature and not the creator. You people are disturbed. I guess this is the crap that you people are going to be going mainstream with in the coming year.

Sorry bud, but Apollyon/Osiris/Ra/Enki/Lucifer or whatever name he goes by this century loses in the end.

You are really picking the losing side of this battle, falling for the same tricks that he fooled the Serpent and Eve with.

He hates humanity. He's jealous because God gave us his thrown, and we WILL judge him on that day. He's jealous because he thinks that because he was created from Fire and we from Dust that he is better than us.

Good luck with that. I'll claim my rightful place in the third heaven, where man is destined to, next to my Lord...
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
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Mati is Greek for eye.

There are a zillion words for snake in Greek, including ophis and herpeton.

[link to www.reptilianagenda.com]

I don't see how those terms fit with the Gnostics and the Garden of Eden myth.

Why be so cryptic? Just say what you mean.
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Mati is more for Evil Eye,

Ophthalmos is eye, where we get Optical from. So Ophis is snake.
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thanks for the read apollo

please dont threaten to smother any flames again.

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Ill be here ! chorus the light and flame will burn bright..
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Hello Friend, In Judaism , the helper is called IBBUR. a mischievious spirit is called Dybbuk..

But the goal is to get Ibbur while being Tzedek.. A Ibbur will not go into a unrighteous person that does not want to change.

You have to meet it halfway so to speak. and be Tob, which is pleasing or good.

The Genius that infused knowledge in the host who has surrendered to knowledge gains strength..

About the daimon of Moshiach, it is believed he will be Moshe (Moses) or King David. The spirit of Moshe of David will be returned as Moshiach

Apollyon is a possibility if one considers the secret of Revelation in the new testament. I will get into this in a bit.
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Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
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Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
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bsflag

Yea, let's worship the creature and not the creator. You people are disturbed. I guess this is the crap that you people are going to be going mainstream with in the coming year.

Sorry bud, but Apollyon/Osiris/Ra/Enki/Lucifer or whatever name he goes by this century loses in the end.

You are really picking the losing side of this battle, falling for the same tricks that he fooled the Serpent and Eve with.

He hates humanity. He's jealous because God gave us his thrown, and we WILL judge him on that day. He's jealous because he thinks that because he was created from Fire and we from Dust that he is better than us.

Good luck with that. I'll claim my rightful place in the third heaven, where man is destined to, next to my Lord...
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your one of the guys that pays 10% down for an eternal membership at the exclusive nightclub in the sky run a greybearded deity of cosmic proportion right?

or wait, maybe your a bouncer..

hmm

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Hello Friend, In Judaism , the helper is called IBBUR. a mischievious spirit is called Dybbuk..

But the goal is to get Ibbur while being Tzedek.. A Ibbur will not go into a unrighteous person that does not want to change.

You have to meet it halfway so to speak. and be Tob, which is pleasing or good.

The Genius that infused knowledge in the host who has surrendered to knowledge gains strength..

About the daimon of Moshiach, it is believed he will be Moshe (Moses) or King David. The spirit of Moshe of David will be returned as Moshiach

Apollyon is a possibility if one considers the secret of Revelation in the new testament. I will get into this in a bit.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5742644


Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


bsflag

Yea, let's worship the creature and not the creator. You people are disturbed. I guess this is the crap that you people are going to be going mainstream with in the coming year.

Sorry bud, but Apollyon/Osiris/Ra/Enki/Lucifer or whatever name he goes by this century loses in the end.

You are really picking the losing side of this battle, falling for the same tricks that he fooled the Serpent and Eve with.

He hates humanity. He's jealous because God gave us his thrown, and we WILL judge him on that day. He's jealous because he thinks that because he was created from Fire and we from Dust that he is better than us.

Good luck with that. I'll claim my rightful place in the third heaven, where man is destined to, next to my Lord...
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You already worship the Pig Man, Son of Zeus, IESOUS is Joshua but JE (GE) SUS is EARTH PIG !

Easter you worship Tammuz who was killed by a wild boar. Ishtar the Babylonian Goddess was so distraught that she decreed every Easter (Istarte) that ham be eaten in memory of Tammuz..
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Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5742644


Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


bsflag

Yea, let's worship the creature and not the creator. You people are disturbed. I guess this is the crap that you people are going to be going mainstream with in the coming year.

Sorry bud, but Apollyon/Osiris/Ra/Enki/Lucifer or whatever name he goes by this century loses in the end.

You are really picking the losing side of this battle, falling for the same tricks that he fooled the Serpent and Eve with.

He hates humanity. He's jealous because God gave us his thrown, and we WILL judge him on that day. He's jealous because he thinks that because he was created from Fire and we from Dust that he is better than us.

Good luck with that. I'll claim my rightful place in the third heaven, where man is destined to, next to my Lord...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10473233


your one of the guys that pays 10% down for an eternal membership at the exclusive nightclub in the sky run a greybearded deity of cosmic proportion right?

or wait, maybe your a bouncer..

hmm

scratching
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LOL !

I do like Christians though if their club behavior is reflected in love of family.. and self sacrifice. Theres many good ones,

However theres many bad ones who uphold that their membership in church and showing off to their friends is more important than family. Theres many stingy hypocrites in church..
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I changed the title a little bit to what this conversation is really about, lol. My readership is way down, but I wont give up, Ill be here for those that want to learn and re think their beliefs.
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Thanks for standing up tall Apollo
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when we treat this planet like it is a waiting room for entrance to the nightclub, no matter the religion, we are wrong.

this is a thought provoking thread, i hope it stays pinned.

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Thanks for standing up tall Apollo
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