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Christians, and their Misunderstanding of the Prophecy of Messiah.

 
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when we treat this planet like it is a waiting room for entrance to the nightclub, no matter the religion, we are wrong.

this is a thought provoking thread, i hope it stays pinned.

peace

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Thank you friend, All spiritual pursuits is a sacrifice and should be ego less.

Most of the prophets in the Bible were actually chosen to their reluctance and denial.

Spiritual pursuit should never be done in greed, only out of the heart and mind.
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Thanks for standing up tall Apollo
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dance
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Yes I imagine there will be a lot of dancing when we go into the blue.
Red can be such a negative. The balance of blue will be a welcome releif.
We shall rename neverland.
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About Leviathon and Behemot. Leviathon is within those concealed and hidden, Behemot, Behemoth is the land animals whose nature is open.

Both groups will battle and make a chimera , a new creature when Malkuth is perfected.
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Thanks for standing up tall Apollo
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dance
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Yes I imagine there will be a lot of dancing when we go into the blue.
Red can be such a negative. The balance of blue will be a welcome releif.
We shall rename neverland.
 Quoting: Lucifer 24510963


Yes, we must pass thru the blue and purple curtain of he Parochet, the dividing curtain to the Holy of Holies . Purified as high priests who honored the secrets of the Covenant.
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
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Sorry I meant Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18.

They speak of Lucifer falling from Heaven and those books were written by Jews.
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
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There was no such thing as Gnosis when that book was written.
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this is an enjoyable thread
but mis-understandings come in many flavors
when stories are read through a kindled Heart, they reveal the Same Truth
though, 'by thy god' not 'by mine god' is the foundation for under-standing another

p.s. on a side note i remember some time ago you were sad there is no one worthy to pass your flame.
if you have time to make a thread on astro-theology, making a synthesis of its working principles, it will be a very enjoyable thread. although i have quite an intimate affair with the stars, and i delved into many of its flavors, i did not come upon structured information in my path on your favorite flavor.so if you care to share...
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Thanks for standing up tall Apollo
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dance
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Yes I imagine there will be a lot of dancing when we go into the blue.
Red can be such a negative. The balance of blue will be a welcome releif.
We shall rename neverland.
 Quoting: Lucifer 24510963


Yes, we must pass thru the blue and purple curtain of he Parochet, the dividing curtain to the Holy of Holies . Purified as high priests who honored the secrets of the Covenant.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Geez, maybe that's what this is all about.
Maybe we've been in the blue and then the red...
And now we merge red and blue to find purple and balance.
Everyone say the nobody is all knowing, but he's just a kid who never grew up.yoda
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Sorry I meant Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18.

They speak of Lucifer falling from Heaven and those books were written by Jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100552


Lucifer, Lucem Ferre is the Venus Star rising as Morningstar at Dawn before the Sun rises during wintertime, it is said to compete with the Sun

This is the Roman Cosmology religion that Christianity could have been in its pure state..

The Story of Innana going underground for her lover Tammuz is the story too of Venus rising, , falling from evening star state, to below the horizon before rising as morningstar.
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


There was no such thing as Gnosis when that book was written.
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Knowledge has always existed.. It is Moshiach who will lead us back to its truths..
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this is an enjoyable thread
but mis-understandings come in many flavors
when stories are read through a kindled Heart, they reveal the Same Truth
though, 'by thy god' not 'by mine god' is the foundation for under-standing another

p.s. on a side note i remember some time ago you were sad there is no one worthy to pass your flame.
if you have time to make a thread on astro-theology, making a synthesis of its working principles, it will be a very enjoyable thread. although i have quite an intimate affair with the stars, and i delved into many of its flavors, i did not come upon structured information in my path on your favorite flavor.so if you care to share...
 Quoting: andreidita


Hi Andreidta ! I hear you there ! All come from same source, The observances of the stars and the seasons of nature and the reincarnation and resurection of the human soul.

Im feeling better now, thank you, I never feel good in water signs , when Sun was in Scorpio (western zodiac) I feel drowned, panicky..

I get depressed every time this year and pick up again towards end of Nov and December

About the stars , if you need good direction I recommend a subscription to Kappa or Dell Horoscope Magazine to get started, Just look them up online . They have excellent articles and material.
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dance
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Yes I imagine there will be a lot of dancing when we go into the blue.
Red can be such a negative. The balance of blue will be a welcome releif.
We shall rename neverland.


Yes, we must pass thru the blue and purple curtain of he Parochet, the dividing curt
 Quoting: Lucifer 24510963
he Holy of Holies . Purified as high priests who honored the secrets of the Covenant.


Geez, maybe that's what this is all about.
Maybe we've been in the blue a
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST
the red...
And now we merge red and blue to find purple and balance.
Everyone say the nobody is all knowing, but he's just a kid who never grew up.yoda


Excellent conclusion there ! yes, come to think, red and blue make purple !

BTW,
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ore, the dye used to dye the parochet comes from the Murex Trunculus snail. Blue is harvested when the the sun is out, Purple is squeezed from the snail in the shade, The snail can make both colors !
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The lawless one works in fear, he knows his end is very near....
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The lawless one works in fear, he knows his end is very near....
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Lets speak of the lawless one, its the verse on restraint , right, in Thesalonians?

Ill go get the verse...
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Sorry I meant Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18.

They speak of Lucifer falling from Heaven and those books were written by Jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100552


Lucifer, Lucem Ferre is the Venus Star rising as Morningstar at Dawn before the Sun rises during wintertime, it is said to compete with the Sun

This is the Roman Cosmology religion that Christianity could have been in its pure state..

The Story of Innana going underground for her lover Tammuz is the story too of Venus rising, , falling from evening star state, to below the horizon before rising as morningstar.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


No, Lucifer/Satan is a real entity and books written by Jews stated that he fell from Heaven. I just don't think it fair to see you criticizing Christians when it was Jews who said these things. Do you accept that?
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So you are saying the book of Genesis is wrong?
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


There was no such thing as Gnosis when that book was written.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100552


Knowledge has always existed.. It is Moshiach who will lead us back to its truths..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I don't really understand what you mean. The book of Genesis speaks of Lucifer/Satan in a literal way, in his fallen state. Since you reject the word of God, I think is is futile to say anymore.
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The lawless one works in fear, he knows his end is very near....
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2 Thessalonians 2:7 says: “For the mystery of iniquity is already at work: only “He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.”

Lawless is Anomos without law

Restraint is Katecho, to hold fast or down..

So without law, that would be without Torah !

The Christian church holds him. Moshiach is in Edom is the teachings of many Rabbis...

chew on this for awhile my friend..

Christianity is the lawless one...
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As in? You mean the serpent in the tree? That is Gnosis. Even though it was written in Hebrew. Greek holds the best explanation . Look up the Greek word for eyes and then the Greek word for snake
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Sorry I meant Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18.

They speak of Lucifer falling from Heaven and those books were written by Jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100552


Lucifer, Lucem Ferre is the Venus Star rising as Morningstar at Dawn before the Sun rises during wintertime, it is said to compete with the Sun

This is the Roman Cosmology religion that Christianity could have been in its pure state..

The Story of Innana going underground for her lover Tammuz is the story too of Venus rising, , falling from evening star state, to below the horizon before rising as morningstar.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


No, Lucifer/Satan is a real entity and books written by Jews stated that he fell from Heaven. I just don't think it fair to see you criticizing Christians when it was Jews who said these things. Do you accept that?
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Venus looks like it is falling from heaven ! After it rises and falls..
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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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bump I'll read later (:


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The lawless one works in fear, he knows his end is very near....
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2 Thessalonians 2:7 says: “For the mystery of iniquity is already at work: only “He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.”

Lawless is Anomos without law

Restraint is Katecho, to hold fast or down..

So without law, that would be without Torah !

The Christian church holds him. Moshiach is in Edom is the teachings of many Rabbis...

chew on this for awhile my friend..

Christianity is the lawless one...
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Good, seems I have touched a button with you, you did as exactly I thought you would do....
Christo
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No, Lucifer/Satan is a real entity and books written by Jews stated that he fell from Heaven. I just don't think it fair to see you criticizing Christians when it was Jews who said these things. Do you accept that?
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Venus looks like it is falling from heaven ! After it rises and falls..


when people will understand that planets are real living bodies, with spirit and all.
and each planet in our solar system has a role to play in the the dynamic of humanity, and individuals alike.

and that Venus/Lucifer and Saturn/Satan were demonized by dogmatic beliefs...
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I can relate with that drowned, panicky feeling this month. There has been a lot of 'death' or 'change' going on in my life personally. Be it with personal or professional relationships. I hope to come out of this hole and reclaim the intuition and enthusiasm for the esoteric and spiritual topics.
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Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
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bsflag

Yea, let's worship the creature and not the creator. You people are disturbed. I guess this is the crap that you people are going to be going mainstream with in the coming year.

Sorry bud, but Apollyon/Osiris/Ra/Enki/Lucifer or whatever name he goes by this century loses in the end.

You are really picking the losing side of this battle, falling for the same tricks that he fooled the Serpent and Eve with.

He hates humanity. He's jealous because God gave us his thrown, and we WILL judge him on that day. He's jealous because he thinks that because he was created from Fire and we from Dust that he is better than us.

Good luck with that. I'll claim my rightful place in the third heaven, where man is destined to, next to my Lord...
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your one of the guys that pays 10% down for an eternal membership at the exclusive nightclub in the sky run a greybearded deity of cosmic proportion right?

or wait, maybe your a bouncer..

hmm

scratching
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LOL !

I do like Christians though if their club behavior is reflected in love of family.. and self sacrifice. Theres many good ones,

However theres many bad ones who uphold that their membership in church and showing off to their friends is more important than family. Theres many stingy hypocrites in church..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


^^^^^This^^^^^

so true...I have always felt like it was a club. I was there to observe the whole time.
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The lawless one works in fear, he knows his end is very near....
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2 Thessalonians 2:7 says: “For the mystery of iniquity is already at work: only “He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.”

Lawless is Anomos without law

Restraint is Katecho, to hold fast or down..

So without law, that would be without Torah !

The Christian church holds him. Moshiach is in Edom is the teachings of many Rabbis...

chew on this for awhile my friend..

Christianity is the lawless one...
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Good, seems I have touched a button with you, you did as exactly I thought you would do....
 Quoting: Christo


I did what? Whats that?

Ive always liked that verse btw.. Ive spent many hours contemplating its mysteries
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although as Uranus really comes into rulership, there was some ancestral fight that had to be fought between saturn and uranus. but it has been done
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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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For God has put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
rev 17:17
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woe is me, wont someone clean up the "mess-i-ah" made?

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