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Christians, and their Misunderstanding of the Prophecy of Messiah.

 
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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
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You sir are full of shit!
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dont leave such a large space at the bottom of your post.
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Yes, it was Judah, Israel was the Northern Kingdom and Judah to the South.

“ A ruin, a ruin! I will make it a ruin ! It will not be restored until he comes to whom it rightfully belongs, to him I will give it. Ezekial 21:27



I wrote this...


THE LION of JUDAH UNVEILED, and the KING OF KINGS by Apollo


:lionking:


BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




The year 10, 500 BC marked the beginning of the Aeons, and the Age of LEO and the Ancient ones in the first age regarded HU as the giver of life. NUT the Sky Goddess in the Egyptian beliefs, revealed her celestial canopy after the Virgo ruled land of MU Lemuria disappeared under the sea along with Atlantis ending the Age of Cancer and Gemini in the flood of Noah 3,000 years BC when the protective sky canopy broke and paradise was lost .

The male rulership of Jehovah was claimed to decree this catastrophic event . It was the age of Taurus in which he chose a group of people to represent him and the age of Aries in which a ram replaced the sacrifice of a cherished Son of Abraham.

It wasn’t until the age of Pisces that a Lion of the Tribe of Judah was prophecied to arise to restore the first ancient ways of pacifism to a people accustomed to war. A lion was to lay down with the lamb. A great teacher was to preach peace to the war weary Hebrews under Roman Dominion .

The lion was a mighty animal free to roam in the Lebanon, Hermon and Jordan ranges and the southern Judean wilderness. The mane of the lions hair reminded people of the sun, so fittingly the symbol of the Sun God became the lion and the ruling planet was the sun. A lion cub grew its golden shaggy mane at around three years old. It was around three years of age that a child was visited by three wise men in a country home.

From lead to Gold was the escape and promise from the structures of Saturn to the freedom of exhaltation to whom would bear the light.



:goddesslion:



“Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Root of David has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals. Revelation 5:5
Let us look back on the history of the formations of the tribes..

Tribe, The Hebrew words representing tribe was “matteh” and “shevet” meaning rod or staff. Exodus 7:12 and Proverbs 13::24 . Cause of the leader of the clan would carry a scepter or staff.

The tribal arrangement of Israel was based on Jacobs twelve sons who had to encamp in the wilderness under their representative zodiac signs.
The Tribe of Levi was the Priestly class under the Sons of Aaron.


The Tribe of Benjamin produced Israels first king, King Saul who was anointed by Samuel. The Tribe of Judah produced King David who slew Goliath. Judah was Jacobs forth son from first wife Leah whom Jacob was tricked into marrying (his heart was tied to her more beautiful sister Rachel) . The Tribe of Judah was described as a lion cub and the prophecies of Judah was pronounced in Genesis 49: 10. “the scepter will not turn aside from Judah, neither the commanders staff from between his feet until Shiloh comes , and to him the obedience of the peoples will belong.”

David fulfilled this when King Saul died and David fought to obtain the lands of Israel until he claimed all the Benjamite territory and made Jerusalem the capital and claiming Zion. For 500 years, Judah claimed the Kingship Sceptre and Staff until King Solomon lost favor and his Son Rehoboam lost ten tribes from his Kingdom so Israel was united no more. Benjamin and Judah was the only ones that stayed loyal to the house of David splitting the Kingdom to Israel of the Northern Kingdom and Judah to the South. In 722 BC Assyrian invaders from what is now (Iraq) invade the Northern Israel and Babylon (also what is now Iraq) attacked the nation of Judah in 586 BC and destroying the temple of Solomon. These invasions began the Lost Tribe theories when many of the individuals of the tribes became un accounted for when they had been taken prisoner. Many have intermarried with the invaders bloodline, but others have migrated and scattered.


:solomon2:


Restoration for the prisoners of Babylon occurred when King Cyrus of Persia allowed the land of Judah restored. The nation of Judah at least could commence the generations to fulfillment in Ezekials promise

“ A ruin, a ruin! I will make it a ruin ! It will not be restored until he comes to whom it rightfully belongs, to him I will give it. Ezekial 21:27

“In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples : the nations will rally to him and his place of rest will be glorious. In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from upper Egypt , from Cush, Fom Elam, from Babylon, from Hamnath and from the islands of the sea. Isaiah 11:10
… Judahs enemies will be cut off. Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah. Isaiah 11:13

The promise of the Lion was to be fulfilled. The sphinx of prophecy was to become the Capstone the builders rejected.

12 golden lions lined the walkway to the Throne of Solomon in the Porch of the throne that stood on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem. Even Solomon knew that there was to be a man of Gold to arise from one of the 12 tribes of God. LEO, The Lion of Judah.


:lionofjudahfall:


The Hierosgamos of the Sacred marriage of Sun and Moon occurs with Leo Sun and Cancer Moon. The shining brilliance of the summer sunlight is the golden mane of the Lion of Judah who is crowned as King. The sign of cancer was also known as the sheepfold congregation which hosts the beehive constellation of stars and the two donkeys of Aselus Borealis and Aselus Astralis which was the manger of the Christ child. The moon is the fruitage of Yesod which births the young child Mercurius .



The sign following the Hierogamos and the divine mystery of union and conjunction is the sign of Virgo, the woman and the Mother of God.

This brings to mind the bible verse: Isaiah 7:14, 15 . Therefore Jehovah himself will give you men a sign: Look! The maiden herself will actually become pregnant, and she is giving birth to a son, and she will certainly call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey he will eat by the time that he knows how to reject the bad and choose the good.
Spiritual apotheosis is the nourishment of the material world into connection with the divine. The pomegranates is the blood that the High Priestess nourishes when the ascending spirit passes between the twin pillars . Judgement is given in the scales of Maat, “justice” and the works of equilibrium heals the monad on his return and reunion of the ONE.

In the late summer and fall we have Virgo appearing right before Dawn with the Sun shining around her head as a halo in mid September which is near the Jewish New Year of Rosh Hashanah. She announces the Fall Equinox and the harvest of grain and crops which nourishes our body



:goddesslion2:



In October the sun is moving down her arm to conjunct with Spica every October 16th, In the western zodiac, the suns placement is Libra, but in the skies he shines in virgo and nourishes her sprig of golden wheat which brings to fulfillment this Bible verse in Jerusalem more than two thousand years ago ..

“Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying,”This means my body which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me. Also the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying. “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf” Luke 22 : 19, 20

Under the sun, the wheat berries have grown to harvest and the stones would grind them into flour for the bread. The sun also ripened the grapes which was to be fermented into wine'

South east of Virgo lies the cup of Christ, the constellation of crater which is the Holy Grail of Bloodlines. We are the children of the Sun, and his bread is our body and his wine is our blood. How fitting it is that the ancient Holy land announces the new year (Rosh Hashanah.. Various dates in September) at harvest time when the Mother rises with the Sun shining as her halo and blending all faiths into the apotheosis monad of ONE


-APOLLO


:sunrise23:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST

 Quoting: waterman


Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.

your writing says "the root" this servant is "a root" not "the root", Jesus is "the root"
Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Just as in Isaiah 42 the servant is "a light" and Jesus always claimed to be "the light" of the world: John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am "the light" of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life

Isaiah 42: The servant of the Lord:
6“I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and "a light" for the Gentiles,
7to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
 Quoting: waterman


There is a servant of God coming actually 2 (two wintesses) but the one is far greater than the other just as moses was greater than aaron, Jesus greater than John Adam greater thatn Eve...etc And his mission will be to join the two houses of Israel back together(lost 10 tribes) and (the 2 tribes that make up Israel today) That servant will be the Branch and he will build the spiritual temple of God because the 2 physical temples were able to be destoryed
2nd corithians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.


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Just as the sea that it rises on apointed times by moon and stars. So shall be the Knowledge of the Lord and his Majesty.

Isaiah 11
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

The age of Pisces and the age of Aquarius?
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Knowledge of the Lord is Christ consciousness.

Isaiah 11
The Peaceful Kingdom
2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD
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The big fun starts on the 32nd path of Tau :)

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A++, Whos ready to see the Universe...

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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


You sir are full of shit!
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Anti Semite !
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Once again, as usual, as always

what is your point?

Please make a succinct, clear, unmistakable and definitive statement for once if you possibly can do do.
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Christianity has taken the Jewish belief of the Messiah and changed it around so much that it no longer represents what it used to in Judaism.

Few in the west know of the original Messianic beliefs in Judaism cause its been overshadowed by the Christian interpretation of what or who the Messiah is.
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The Jewish will accept Satan Incarnate as Messiah.

Why is virtually the entire Old Testament God telling the Jewish people that they can't get anything right and reject every one sent to them?

And every time you use "cause" you should be using "because."

You're welcome.
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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


David is Dalet or Dal Vav Dalet or Dal. Where are you getting Nun or Samech?
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Yes, it was Judah, Israel was the Northern Kingdom and Judah to the South.

“ A ruin, a ruin! I will make it a ruin ! It will not be restored until he comes to whom it rightfully belongs, to him I will give it. Ezekial 21:27



I wrote this...


THE LION of JUDAH UNVEILED, and the KING OF KINGS by Apollo


:lionking:


BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY




The year 10, 500 BC marked the beginning of the Aeons, and the Age of LEO and the Ancient ones in the first age regarded HU as the giver of life. NUT the Sky Goddess in the Egyptian beliefs, revealed her celestial canopy after the Virgo ruled land of MU Lemuria disappeared under the sea along with Atlantis ending the Age of Cancer and Gemini in the flood of Noah 3,000 years BC when the protective sky canopy broke and paradise was lost .

The male rulership of Jehovah was claimed to decree this catastrophic event . It was the age of Taurus in which he chose a group of people to represent him and the age of Aries in which a ram replaced the sacrifice of a cherished Son of Abraham.

It wasn’t until the age of Pisces that a Lion of the Tribe of Judah was prophecied to arise to restore the first ancient ways of pacifism to a people accustomed to war. A lion was to lay down with the lamb. A great teacher was to preach peace to the war weary Hebrews under Roman Dominion .

The lion was a mighty animal free to roam in the Lebanon, Hermon and Jordan ranges and the southern Judean wilderness. The mane of the lions hair reminded people of the sun, so fittingly the symbol of the Sun God became the lion and the ruling planet was the sun. A lion cub grew its golden shaggy mane at around three years old. It was around three years of age that a child was visited by three wise men in a country home.

From lead to Gold was the escape and promise from the structures of Saturn to the freedom of exhaltation to whom would bear the light.



:goddesslion:



“Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Root of David has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals. Revelation 5:5
Let us look back on the history of the formations of the tribes..

Tribe, The Hebrew words representing tribe was “matteh” and “shevet” meaning rod or staff. Exodus 7:12 and Proverbs 13::24 . Cause of the leader of the clan would carry a scepter or staff.

The tribal arrangement of Israel was based on Jacobs twelve sons who had to encamp in the wilderness under their representative zodiac signs.
The Tribe of Levi was the Priestly class under the Sons of Aaron.


The Tribe of Benjamin produced Israels first king, King Saul who was anointed by Samuel. The Tribe of Judah produced King David who slew Goliath. Judah was Jacobs forth son from first wife Leah whom Jacob was tricked into marrying (his heart was tied to her more beautiful sister Rachel) . The Tribe of Judah was described as a lion cub and the prophecies of Judah was pronounced in Genesis 49: 10. “the scepter will not turn aside from Judah, neither the commanders staff from between his feet until Shiloh comes , and to him the obedience of the peoples will belong.”

David fulfilled this when King Saul died and David fought to obtain the lands of Israel until he claimed all the Benjamite territory and made Jerusalem the capital and claiming Zion. For 500 years, Judah claimed the Kingship Sceptre and Staff until King Solomon lost favor and his Son Rehoboam lost ten tribes from his Kingdom so Israel was united no more. Benjamin and Judah was the only ones that stayed loyal to the house of David splitting the Kingdom to Israel of the Northern Kingdom and Judah to the South. In 722 BC Assyrian invaders from what is now (Iraq) invade the Northern Israel and Babylon (also what is now Iraq) attacked the nation of Judah in 586 BC and destroying the temple of Solomon. These invasions began the Lost Tribe theories when many of the individuals of the tribes became un accounted for when they had been taken prisoner. Many have intermarried with the invaders bloodline, but others have migrated and scattered.


:solomon2:


Restoration for the prisoners of Babylon occurred when King Cyrus of Persia allowed the land of Judah restored. The nation of Judah at least could commence the generations to fulfillment in Ezekials promise

“ A ruin, a ruin! I will make it a ruin ! It will not be restored until he comes to whom it rightfully belongs, to him I will give it. Ezekial 21:27

“In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples : the nations will rally to him and his place of rest will be glorious. In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from upper Egypt , from Cush, Fom Elam, from Babylon, from Hamnath and from the islands of the sea. Isaiah 11:10
… Judahs enemies will be cut off. Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah. Isaiah 11:13

The promise of the Lion was to be fulfilled. The sphinx of prophecy was to become the Capstone the builders rejected.

12 golden lions lined the walkway to the Throne of Solomon in the Porch of the throne that stood on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem. Even Solomon knew that there was to be a man of Gold to arise from one of the 12 tribes of God. LEO, The Lion of Judah.


:lionofjudahfall:


The Hierosgamos of the Sacred marriage of Sun and Moon occurs with Leo Sun and Cancer Moon. The shining brilliance of the summer sunlight is the golden mane of the Lion of Judah who is crowned as King. The sign of cancer was also known as the sheepfold congregation which hosts the beehive constellation of stars and the two donkeys of Aselus Borealis and Aselus Astralis which was the manger of the Christ child. The moon is the fruitage of Yesod which births the young child Mercurius .



The sign following the Hierogamos and the divine mystery of union and conjunction is the sign of Virgo, the woman and the Mother of God.

This brings to mind the bible verse: Isaiah 7:14, 15 . Therefore Jehovah himself will give you men a sign: Look! The maiden herself will actually become pregnant, and she is giving birth to a son, and she will certainly call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey he will eat by the time that he knows how to reject the bad and choose the good.
Spiritual apotheosis is the nourishment of the material world into connection with the divine. The pomegranates is the blood that the High Priestess nourishes when the ascending spirit passes between the twin pillars . Judgement is given in the scales of Maat, “justice” and the works of equilibrium heals the monad on his return and reunion of the ONE.

In the late summer and fall we have Virgo appearing right before Dawn with the Sun shining around her head as a halo in mid September which is near the Jewish New Year of Rosh Hashanah. She announces the Fall Equinox and the harvest of grain and crops which nourishes our body



:goddesslion2:



In October the sun is moving down her arm to conjunct with Spica every October 16th, In the western zodiac, the suns placement is Libra, but in the skies he shines in virgo and nourishes her sprig of golden wheat which brings to fulfillment this Bible verse in Jerusalem more than two thousand years ago ..

“Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying,”This means my body which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me. Also the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying. “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf” Luke 22 : 19, 20

Under the sun, the wheat berries have grown to harvest and the stones would grind them into flour for the bread. The sun also ripened the grapes which was to be fermented into wine'

South east of Virgo lies the cup of Christ, the constellation of crater which is the Holy Grail of Bloodlines. We are the children of the Sun, and his bread is our body and his wine is our blood. How fitting it is that the ancient Holy land announces the new year (Rosh Hashanah.. Various dates in September) at harvest time when the Mother rises with the Sun shining as her halo and blending all faiths into the apotheosis monad of ONE


-APOLLO


:sunrise23:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST

 Quoting: waterman


Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.

your writing says "the root" this servant is "a root" not "the root", Jesus is "the root"
Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Just as in Isaiah 42 the servant is "a light" and Jesus always claimed to be "the light" of the world: John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am "the light" of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life

Isaiah 42: The servant of the Lord:
6“I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and "a light" for the Gentiles,
7to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
 Quoting: waterman


There is a servant of God coming actually 2 (two wintesses) but the one is far greater than the other just as moses was greater than aaron, Jesus greater than John Adam greater thatn Eve...etc And his mission will be to join the two houses of Israel back together(lost 10 tribes) and (the 2 tribes that make up Israel today) That servant will be the Branch and he will build the spiritual temple of God because the 2 physical temples were able to be destoryed
2nd corithians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
 Quoting: waterman


any comment?


Watermen, they always come in two, yes.. I believe. Its a standard occurance... Some call them the brothers and yes, it can be the two witnesses also seen by John of Patmos in Revelation 11 who will be like Elijah and Moses who was seen at the transfiguration of Jesus. Moses on the left and Elijah on the right. ..That is one theory..


Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

It is also in Zechariah

Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying:
9 "The hands of Zerubbabel Have laid the foundation of this temple;His hands shall also finish it.Then you will know That the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you. 10 For who has despised the day of small things?For these seven rejoice to see The plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel.They are the eyes of the LORD,Which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth."

11 Then I answered and said to him, "What are these two olive trees--at the right of the lampstand and at its left?" 12 And I further answered and said to him, "What are these two olive branches that drip into the receptacles of the two gold pipes from which the golden oil drains?" 13 Then he answered me and said, "Do you not know what these are?" And I said, "No, my lord." 14 So he said, "These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth." (Zechariah 4:1-14).
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Ah APOLLO are you not tired to play that role for them..!

I got the impression that you are tired of all this Misdirect you're using ..!

it could be something else n'est ce pas ..!

AnyWay

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You and Ron Paul share some things in common. Chief among them? Touching base with reality once in awhile; "secret of the letter samech" are you fucking kidding?

You've got a message? Use the book everyone has at hand and forget about secret letters, mmmkay. Noone will care or give a shit.

As for me there is no way I'm clicking on or reading anything with the name APOLLO ILLUMINIST attached to it again.

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I hope you enjoyed this little piece of Jewish study. Awareness can bring unity, world peace. Christians have created bad guys in their doctrines. When one dives into the MYSTIC study of Judaism , there is no bad guys. Its all based on our personal responsibility and self development unto God.

It is based on heart condition, not nationality.

It is a prepping of the soul that brings awareness to all that is on the tree of life..
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LOL, The Old and New Testament points out some of theese rabbis to be the bad guys even, of course they would say there's "no bad", because they are it, just like you're a bad guy. Since you're a deciever and not a moran you know very well where you are shown to be that.

So very typical for you deceivers to do these pathetic "oh this word does not mean this", same bs all liberal "christians" are doing when there is stuff they don't like in the Bible or there is stuff they can't explain.

You guys crack me up, anyway you do know you're going to hell? If not let me be the first to tell you, you're going to hell you blind moran.
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You and Ron Paul share some things in common. Chief among them? Touching base with reality once in awhile; "secret of the letter samech" are you fucking kidding?

You've got a message? Use the book everyone has at hand and forget about secret letters, mmmkay. Noone will care or give a shit.

As for me there is no way I'm clicking on or reading anything with the name APOLLO ILLUMINIST attached to it again.

A complete waste of bandwidth
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Its Hebrew, their own alpha/aleph bet. You anti semite illiterate, uneducated imbecile !

You slandered and made fun of a Prominant Rabbi too !
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I hope you enjoyed this little piece of Jewish study. Awareness can bring unity, world peace. Christians have created bad guys in their doctrines. When one dives into the MYSTIC study of Judaism , there is no bad guys. Its all based on our personal responsibility and self development unto God.

It is based on heart condition, not nationality.

It is a prepping of the soul that brings awareness to all that is on the tree of life..
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LOL, The Old and New Testament points out some of theese rabbis to be the bad guys even, of course they would say there's "no bad", because they are it, just like you're a bad guy. Since you're a deciever and not a moran you know very well where you are shown to be that.

So very typical for you deceivers to do these pathetic "oh this word does not mean this", same bs all liberal "christians" are doing when there is stuff they don't like in the Bible or there is stuff they can't explain.

You guys crack me up, anyway you do know you're going to hell? If not let me be the first to tell you, you're going to hell you blind moran.
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Another Anti Semite , judgemental hypocrite..

Why dont you respect other cultures for once..

And stuff your hellfire bullshit psychotic threats where the sun dont shine

Your boogeymen crappola is being rejected more and more by the younger generation

They are wising up to your fairy tales.
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Ah APOLLO are you not tired to play that role for them..!

I got the impression that you are tired of all this Misdirect you're using ..!

it could be something else n'est ce pas ..!

AnyWay

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This is a Hebrew Studies post, If you cannot respect that, than dont click.

Miss you too friend..

How have you been? we might not agree, but I enjoyed our conversations in the past.
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...

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Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.

your writing says "the root" this servant is "a root" not "the root", Jesus is "the root"
Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Just as in Isaiah 42 the servant is "a light" and Jesus always claimed to be "the light" of the world: John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am "the light" of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life

Isaiah 42: The servant of the Lord:
6“I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and "a light" for the Gentiles,
7to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
 Quoting: waterman


There is a servant of God coming actually 2 (two wintesses) but the one is far greater than the other just as moses was greater than aaron, Jesus greater than John Adam greater thatn Eve...etc And his mission will be to join the two houses of Israel back together(lost 10 tribes) and (the 2 tribes that make up Israel today) That servant will be the Branch and he will build the spiritual temple of God because the 2 physical temples were able to be destoryed
2nd corithians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
 Quoting: waterman


any comment?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Watermen, they always come in two, yes.. I believe. Its a standard occurance... Some call them the brothers and yes, it can be the two witnesses also seen by John of Patmos in Revelation 11 who will be like Elijah and Moses who was seen at the transfiguration of Jesus. Moses on the left and Elijah on the right. ..That is one theory..


Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

It is also in Zechariah

Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying:
9 "The hands of Zerubbabel Have laid the foundation of this temple;His hands shall also finish it.Then you will know That the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you. 10 For who has despised the day of small things?For these seven rejoice to see The plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel.They are the eyes of the LORD,Which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth."

11 Then I answered and said to him, "What are these two olive trees--at the right of the lampstand and at its left?" 12 And I further answered and said to him, "What are these two olive branches that drip into the receptacles of the two gold pipes from which the golden oil drains?" 13 Then he answered me and said, "Do you not know what these are?" And I said, "No, my lord." 14 So he said, "These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth." (Zechariah 4:1-14).


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I wasn't wanting comment on the two witnesses I was wanting comment on you quoting the scripture Isaiah 11:10 wrong and saying "the root" instead of "a root" because the servant is "a root" but Jesus is "the root"

Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.


Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


David is Dalet or Dal Vav Dalet or Dal. Where are you getting Nun or Samech?
 Quoting: nzreva


Its the teachings of Rabbi Ginsburgh and from the descent of the kabbalah,

Moshiach Ben David must descent into the waters of Nun and Yesod.. Samech revealing the secret of Nun.
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Apollo,

see

Thread: Suppose that A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, D = 4, etcetera... Guess what happens when you add the values of the letters of the words...

Thread: 666 solved

enLIGHTening!
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its a little more simpler that all that,lol...the word KING> KI> potassium iodide...N> 14th letter aka the top level of the pyramid...and the G>Idol1

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Ah APOLLO are you not tired to play that role for them..!

I got the impression that you are tired of all this Misdirect you're using ..!

it could be something else n'est ce pas ..!

AnyWay

Yolgnu.
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This is a Hebrew Studies post, If you cannot respect that, than dont click.

Miss you too friend..

How have you been? we might not agree, but I enjoyed our conversations in the past.
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APOLLO you know very well what I mean by this I know you can still be honest with yourself..!

I have been fine here ..!

I write that post because you give me the impression of been tired of all this ..!

I am a big empathic here you know lol

AnyWay ..!

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its a little more simpler that all that,lol...the word KING> KI> potassium iodide...N> 14th letter aka the top level of the pyramid...and the G>Idol1
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


"KING OF KINGS" = 122 simple gematria and 732 old English

same as

"CHI XI STIGMA"
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...


Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.

your writing says "the root" this servant is "a root" not "the root", Jesus is "the root"
Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Just as in Isaiah 42 the servant is "a light" and Jesus always claimed to be "the light" of the world: John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am "the light" of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life

Isaiah 42: The servant of the Lord:
6“I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and "a light" for the Gentiles,
7to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
 Quoting: waterman


There is a servant of God coming actually 2 (two wintesses) but the one is far greater than the other just as moses was greater than aaron, Jesus greater than John Adam greater thatn Eve...etc And his mission will be to join the two houses of Israel back together(lost 10 tribes) and (the 2 tribes that make up Israel today) That servant will be the Branch and he will build the spiritual temple of God because the 2 physical temples were able to be destoryed
2nd corithians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
 Quoting: waterman


any comment?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Watermen, they always come in two, yes.. I believe. Its a standard occurance... Some call them the brothers and yes, it can be the two witnesses also seen by John of Patmos in Revelation 11 who will be like Elijah and Moses who was seen at the transfiguration of Jesus. Moses on the left and Elijah on the right. ..That is one theory..


Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

It is also in Zechariah

Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying:
9 "The hands of Zerubbabel Have laid the foundation of this temple;His hands shall also finish it.Then you will know That the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you. 10 For who has despised the day of small things?For these seven rejoice to see The plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel.They are the eyes of the LORD,Which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth."

11 Then I answered and said to him, "What are these two olive trees--at the right of the lampstand and at its left?" 12 And I further answered and said to him, "What are these two olive branches that drip into the receptacles of the two gold pipes from which the golden oil drains?" 13 Then he answered me and said, "Do you not know what these are?" And I said, "No, my lord." 14 So he said, "These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth." (Zechariah 4:1-14).

 Quoting: waterman

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I wasn't wanting comment on the two witnesses I was wanting comment on you quoting the scripture Isaiah 11:10 wrong and saying "the root" instead of "a root" because the servant is "a root" but Jesus is "the root"

Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.


Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.







----------------------------------------------------

I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved

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Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.

your writing says "the root" this servant is "a root" not "the root", Jesus is "the root"
Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Just as in Isaiah 42 the servant is "a light" and Jesus always claimed to be "the light" of the world: John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am "the light" of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life

Isaiah 42: The servant of the Lord:
6“I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and "a light" for the Gentiles,
7to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
 Quoting: waterman


There is a servant of God coming actually 2 (two wintesses) but the one is far greater than the other just as moses was greater than aaron, Jesus greater than John Adam greater thatn Eve...etc And his mission will be to join the two houses of Israel back together(lost 10 tribes) and (the 2 tribes that make up Israel today) That servant will be the Branch and he will build the spiritual temple of God because the 2 physical temples were able to be destoryed
2nd corithians 6:16:
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
 Quoting: waterman


any comment?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Watermen, they always come in two, yes.. I believe. Its a standard occurance... Some call them the brothers and yes, it can be the two witnesses also seen by John of Patmos in Revelation 11 who will be like Elijah and Moses who was seen at the transfiguration of Jesus. Moses on the left and Elijah on the right. ..That is one theory..


Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

It is also in Zechariah

Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying:
9 "The hands of Zerubbabel Have laid the foundation of this temple;His hands shall also finish it.Then you will know That the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you. 10 For who has despised the day of small things?For these seven rejoice to see The plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel.They are the eyes of the LORD,Which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth."

11 Then I answered and said to him, "What are these two olive trees--at the right of the lampstand and at its left?" 12 And I further answered and said to him, "What are these two olive branches that drip into the receptacles of the two gold pipes from which the golden oil drains?" 13 Then he answered me and said, "Do you not know what these are?" And I said, "No, my lord." 14 So he said, "These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth." (Zechariah 4:1-14).

 Quoting: waterman

-----------------------------------------------------------


I wasn't wanting comment on the two witnesses I was wanting comment on you quoting the scripture Isaiah 11:10 wrong and saying "the root" instead of "a root" because the servant is "a root" but Jesus is "the root"

Isaiah 11:10:And in that day there shall be "a root" of Jesse, who shall stand as an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his place of rest shall be glorious.


Revelation 22:16:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am "the root" and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.



Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.
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Why is virtually the entire Old Testament God telling the Jewish people that they can't get anything right and reject every one sent to them?

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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved


Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.
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The big fun starts on the 32nd path of Tau :)

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A++, Whos ready to see the Universe...

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Hi Apollo, Been a while!

I was searching your threads and i can't seem to find you explication i once readed about David and the signification of the number 1333!

could you help me on this? hf
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The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved
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Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.


you didn't misquote that you misquoted Isaiah 11:10:
Isaiah 11:10

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

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it's Funny when Peoples cut and paste Bible ..!

One need to know that

The NIV version of the Bible has

64,000 missing words out of the KJB (textus receptus, original texts)

taken out the word GOD 468 times from the textus receptus, original texts

taken out the word BLOOD 41 times from the textus receptus, original texts..!

And This only for this Book ...!

by doing this, they create an apostate book that is compatible with the New World Religion.

Did you see The New International bible Version Cover
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AnyWay..!

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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
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Re: Christians, and their Misunderstanding of the Prophecy of Messiah.
Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

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Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Warning to all Christians, do not listen to this guy, he's spreading blasphemous false doctrine. He's either been given over to the lies of the world or he works for satan (which seems more likely considering all his illuminati garbage name, photo, and links etc. Repent my friend, the kingdom is at hand, every knee will bow as it is written. Even if you yourself don't believe, you will be held accountable. Peace be with you.

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