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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: Moshiach is not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Major fail and nonsense.The Hebrew word mashiyach does NOT refer to or mean "fallen one'You are a liar,.
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Why is virtually the entire Old Testament God telling the Jewish people that they can't get anything right and reject every one sent to them?

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what about the rest of us......just kidding..night
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Apollyon, being the destroyer of evil, would make sense. I'm surprised there is such a negative view of him. Spiritually speaking, he is pretty amazing. For those not familiar, we have all heard of the boogieman who hides in the closet and terrorizes children to soil themselves with fear. Apollyon is the being in the boogieman's closet...
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Yes ! You can thank Christianity for that, What could have been a great solar religion turned into a boogeyman , witch hunt. They slandered the teachings of the one known as Lucifer, the fallen one. Apolllyon, and the Moshiach /Mashiach whom they label as Anti Christ

Its a sad state of affairs.

Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


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Yea, let's worship the creature and not the creator. You people are disturbed. I guess this is the crap that you people are going to be going mainstream with in the coming year.

Sorry bud, but Apollyon/Osiris/Ra/Enki/Lucifer or whatever name he goes by this century loses in the end.

You are really picking the losing side of this battle, falling for the same tricks that he fooled the Serpent and Eve with.

He hates humanity. He's jealous because God gave us his thrown, and we WILL judge him on that day. He's jealous because he thinks that because he was created from Fire and we from Dust that he is better than us.

Good luck with that. I'll claim my rightful place in the third heaven, where man is destined to, next to my Lord...
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You already worship the Pig Man, Son of Zeus, IESOUS is Joshua but JE (GE) SUS is EARTH PIG !

Easter you worship Tammuz who was killed by a wild boar. Ishtar the Babylonian Goddess was so distraught that she decreed every Easter (Istarte) that ham be eaten in memory of Tammuz..
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They will never learn..
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Nun: The Messiah - Heir to the Throne by Rabbi Ginsburgh

The "nun" is the fourteenth letter of the alef-beit, which equals "David," the progenitor of the eternal Kingdom of Israel. The heir to David is Mashiach ben David, of whom is said: "As long as the duration of the sun his name shall rule." Our Sages teach us that one of the names of Mashiach is Yinon ("shall rule"), cognate to nun. Mashiach is also referred to as "the miscarriage," or, literally, the "fallen one."

As we will learn in the secret of the letter samech, the nun does not appear in Psalm 145, but is supported by God's transcendent mercy, as expressed by the following letter, samech. In general, nun corresponds in Torah to the image of falling. The soul of Mashiach experiences itself as continuously falling and dying; if not for the ever-present Hand of God "catching" it, it would crash to the ground and shatter to death."

cont......


Commentary by APOLLO. As you can see the above, this is where the Christians get the erroneous concept of Lucifer from, "The fallen one"

Slander towards the belief in Moshiach is The Fallen Lucifer, the Anti Christ, etc, etc..

(NOTE: Moshiach is not to be confused with the Christian Messiah known as Jesus. The Jewish people have their own concept which is ignored, or simply not taught to the masses in the west.)

My Commentary to point out is that this is a non political entry. This is meant to be taken as a Kabbalist spiritual entry considering all that is going on in the Middle East which it looks to have reached a cease fire. Spiritual people try their best to stay out of politics and pray for world peace and love to focus on the hope within)
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Major fail and nonsense.The Hebrew word mashiyach does NOT refer to or mean "fallen one'You are a liar,.
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You calling Rabbi Ginsburg a liar???

Fallen is a Fundie term, Christians invented it.

The Beit Hamikdash fell to the Romans in 70 AD, does that make it evil cause it fell down?

Why dont you take off your Fundie cap and learn the etiquette and beauty of real mystic Judaism from the Masters,

Calling Rabbi Ginsburg a liar, ridiculous.
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what about the rest of us......just kidding..night
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Im back for a little bit,..
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Thanks for the thread Apollo:) I've been personally battleing off my fear fear that a "satin" might actually exist like in the bible. Although i beleive the bible too was man made well through generations its undoubtedly been revised to fit ones perspective. Anyway this post reassures me that my gut instinct that there is no "satin" is correct. Unfourtionantly I've just had a lot of "fear" impacted in life since childhood and so forth. I'm learning to listen to these little whispers in my soul and learn from them kinda let them guide my spirituallity. The thing is there is just so many beleifs out there its hard to reson with just one. I enjoy your posts lol i may not fully understand everything but im working on it. Light and love to ya bro. Thanks again:)peace be with you and peace be with this damn planet lol.hf
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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved
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Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.


you didn't misquote that you misquoted Isaiah 11:10:
Isaiah 11:10

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
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Isaiah 11:10 ?

King James has it as "a" root

NIV has it as "the" root.
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Thanks for the thread Apollo:) I've been personally battleing off my fear fear that a "satin" might actually exist like in the bible. Although i beleive the bible too was man made well through generations its undoubtedly been revised to fit ones perspective. Anyway this post reassures me that my gut instinct that there is no "satin" is correct. Unfourtionantly I've just had a lot of "fear" impacted in life since childhood and so forth. I'm learning to listen to these little whispers in my soul and learn from them kinda let them guide my spirituallity. The thing is there is just so many beleifs out there its hard to reson with just one. I enjoy your posts lol i may not fully understand everything but im working on it. Light and love to ya bro. Thanks again:)peace be with you and peace be with this damn planet lol.hf
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Prudence, thank you friend, I want to stress that we cannot fear Satan or even believe in him as Christianity taught, In Judaism, he was simply another one of Gods angels on duty, the attitude is totally different

There is energy daimons though that are negative. They will feed on lust, pornography, fright or fear. Be selective in your friends and entertainment choices...

You will co create your own reality this way and move up a dimension while others are enveloped in a lower dimension of their own creation.

Stay positive and be selective, and always loving to those of your own and forgiving to family, Judaism stresses the family unit (considering ones family is not evil or abusive) while Christianity stresses more the neighbor. Well these days neighbors can be thieves, druggies, molesters which brings us back to not trusting just anyone but being cautious.
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Apollyon is the cleanser of evil and the fighter for justice and truth.
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It make make more sense to everyone if you told them why Apollyon is chained away in the abyss.

Its hard for people to accept with only part of the story.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved
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Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.


you didn't misquote that you misquoted Isaiah 11:10:
Isaiah 11:10

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Isaiah 11:10 ?

King James has it as "a" root

NIV has it as "the" root.

thats why I don't use niv
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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.


you didn't misquote that you misquoted Isaiah 11:10:
Isaiah 11:10

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Isaiah 11:10 ?

King James has it as "a" root

NIV has it as "the" root.


NIV is so wrong. Man has changed words in that book, but they're so subtle, you'd have to be a scholar to see the difference. Subtle, yet VERY important.
And Satan does exist. I know, because I've felt him. I've also felt the Holy Spirit. I know which side my bread is buttered on. Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to my Lord Jesus.
And no, I don't pay 10%. I don't even go to church.
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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.


you didn't misquote that you misquoted Isaiah 11:10:
Isaiah 11:10

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Isaiah 11:10 ?

King James has it as "a" root

NIV has it as "the" root.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27788966


NIV is so wrong. Man has changed words in that book, but they're so subtle, you'd have to be a scholar to see the difference. Subtle, yet VERY important.
And Satan does exist. I know, because I've felt him. I've also felt the Holy Spirit. I know which side my bread is buttered on. Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to my Lord Jesus.
And no, I don't pay 10%. I don't even go to church.


That is satans greatest deceiving to make man think he doesn't exist. why fight something you don't believe in..that's pretty genius
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Watermans qoute: [qoute]I don't blame ya I'd ignore that one too if I didn't want to see Jesus as the only way to be saved
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Lets look up Revelation 22 in Greek.. Jesus said, EGO EIMI HE RHIA. I am the root... Yes, Revelation does call him the Root.


you didn't misquote that you misquoted Isaiah 11:10:
Isaiah 11:10

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Isaiah 11:10 ?

King James has it as "a" root

NIV has it as "the" root.


NIV is so wrong. Man has changed words in that book, but they're so subtle, you'd have to be a scholar to see the difference. Subtle, yet VERY important.
And Satan does exist. I know, because I've felt him. I've also felt the Holy Spirit. I know which side my bread is buttered on. Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to my Lord Jesus.
And no, I don't pay 10%. I don't even go to church.
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NIV has Jesus as the Capstone too in Psalm 118:22 rather than Cornerstone as the other translations do. I think its cool cause it does fit in astrology and Illuminati.

It is said that indeed, he had a Capstone , pyramid natal.

:capstone1:
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LOL !

I do like Christians though if their club behavior is reflected in love of family.. and self sacrifice. Theres many good ones,

However theres many bad ones who uphold that their membership in church and showing off to their friends is more important than family. Theres many stingy hypocrites in church..
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Question, when you say love of family.. In the last few months and the last year, the masks have come off many of my family members.. I can literally see right through them.. They are such negative people, that whenever they get near me, all I feel is like a draining of my positive energy..

I am speaking of my immediate Parents and my Step Parents here.. As for my wife and child, we are extremely close...

How do you honor or respect those who cannot honor or respect you? How do you accept the people who are supposed to love you, but only cause pain and controversy? I am having a very difficult time with this.. I actually told my Mother to get out and stay out of my life yesterday, it literally got to the point where I just could not take it any longer.. They are two-faced hypocritical people that can never give praise, only criticism..

I refuse to honor a mother and father who are only Mother and Father by name, and not actions.. No unconditional love in this family at all on their part.. Love is just a word to them..

Help me out here, Friend.
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4th time.
Why is virtually the entire Old Testament God telling the Jewish people that they can't get anything right and reject every one sent to them?

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LOL !

I do like Christians though if their club behavior is reflected in love of family.. and self sacrifice. Theres many good ones,

However theres many bad ones who uphold that their membership in church and showing off to their friends is more important than family. Theres many stingy hypocrites in church..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Question, when you say love of family.. In the last few months and the last year, the masks have come off many of my family members.. I can literally see right through them.. They are such negative people, that whenever they get near me, all I feel is like a draining of my positive energy..

I am speaking of my immediate Parents and my Step Parents here.. As for my wife and child, we are extremely close...

How do you honor or respect those who cannot honor or respect you? How do you accept the people who are supposed to love you, but only cause pain and controversy? I am having a very difficult time with this.. I actually told my Mother to get out and stay out of my life yesterday, it literally got to the point where I just could not take it any longer.. They are two-faced hypocritical people that can never give praise, only criticism..

I refuse to honor a mother and father who are only Mother and Father by name, and not actions.. No unconditional love in this family at all on their part.. Love is just a word to them..

Help me out here, Friend.
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Offer your forgiveness and goodness, If they reject it, then reconsider. How are they at Holiday time? It would be good to test out and stick to holidays. For many its tradition to try and be together regardless. Never permanently burn a bridge cause people can change. In the most unbearable situation just give yourself distance and time.

Focus on your wife and child, and have your wife and yourself be demonstrative to the child on what a healthy, loving relationship is so that the "curse" so to speak is ended and nothing carries on to a new generation. You can always be the new beginning . The goal should be two generations of a happy family, Yourself, your wife and child and your childs family when your child moves out on their own.
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LOL !

I do like Christians though if their club behavior is reflected in love of family.. and self sacrifice. Theres many good ones,

However theres many bad ones who uphold that their membership in church and showing off to their friends is more important than family. Theres many stingy hypocrites in church..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Question, when you say love of family.. In the last few months and the last year, the masks have come off many of my family members.. I can literally see right through them.. They are such negative people, that whenever they get near me, all I feel is like a draining of my positive energy..

I am speaking of my immediate Parents and my Step Parents here.. As for my wife and child, we are extremely close...

How do you honor or respect those who cannot honor or respect you? How do you accept the people who are supposed to love you, but only cause pain and controversy? I am having a very difficult time with this.. I actually told my Mother to get out and stay out of my life yesterday, it literally got to the point where I just could not take it any longer.. They are two-faced hypocritical people that can never give praise, only criticism..

I refuse to honor a mother and father who are only Mother and Father by name, and not actions.. No unconditional love in this family at all on their part.. Love is just a word to them..

Help me out here, Friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26154537


Offer your forgiveness and goodness, If they reject it, then reconsider. How are they at Holiday time? It would be good to test out and stick to holidays. For many its tradition to try and be together regardless. Never permanently burn a bridge cause people can change. In the most unbearable situation just give yourself distance and time.

Focus on your wife and child, and have your wife and yourself be demonstrative to the child on what a healthy, loving relationship is so that the "curse" so to speak is ended and nothing carries on to a new generation. You can always be the new beginning . The goal should be two generations of a happy family, Yourself, your wife and child and your childs family when your child moves out on their own.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Makes perfect sense, Brother.. That actually helped quite a bit.. Much appreciated..

hf
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4th time.
Why is virtually the entire Old Testament God telling the Jewish people that they can't get anything right and reject every one sent to them?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28176949

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Cause the Old Testament was a lesson on humanitys imperfection and their inability to rule themselves.

God sends aspects of himself down to us reflective in others, so that we may redeem our imperfect attitudes and draw even closer to him.
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Cause the Old Testament was a lesson on humanitys imperfection and their inability to rule themselves.

God sends aspects of himself down to us reflective in others, so that we may redeem our imperfect attitudes and draw even closer to him.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


So the Jewish people always got it wrong but now they;re getting it right?

And it's "Because" again....
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LOL !

I do like Christians though if their club behavior is reflected in love of family.. and self sacrifice. Theres many good ones,

However theres many bad ones who uphold that their membership in church and showing off to their friends is more important than family. Theres many stingy hypocrites in church..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Question, when you say love of family.. In the last few months and the last year, the masks have come off many of my family members.. I can literally see right through them.. They are such negative people, that whenever they get near me, all I feel is like a draining of my positive energy..

I am speaking of my immediate Parents and my Step Parents here.. As for my wife and child, we are extremely close...

How do you honor or respect those who cannot honor or respect you? How do you accept the people who are supposed to love you, but only cause pain and controversy? I am having a very difficult time with this.. I actually told my Mother to get out and stay out of my life yesterday, it literally got to the point where I just could not take it any longer.. They are two-faced hypocritical people that can never give praise, only criticism..

I refuse to honor a mother and father who are only Mother and Father by name, and not actions.. No unconditional love in this family at all on their part.. Love is just a word to them..

Help me out here, Friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26154537


Offer your forgiveness and goodness, If they reject it, then reconsider. How are they at Holiday time? It would be good to test out and stick to holidays. For many its tradition to try and be together regardless. Never permanently burn a bridge cause people can change. In the most unbearable situation just give yourself distance and time.

Focus on your wife and child, and have your wife and yourself be demonstrative to the child on what a healthy, loving relationship is so that the "curse" so to speak is ended and nothing carries on to a new generation. You can always be the new beginning . The goal should be two generations of a happy family, Yourself, your wife and child and your childs family when your child moves out on their own.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Makes perfect sense, Brother.. That actually helped quite a bit.. Much appreciated..

hf
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Happy to help friend. The Old testament really does hint that there are curses upon generations and that those curses can end, usually after the fourth generation. I just change it to the logical force of forgivenes and ending bad habits and not allowing a past generations imperfections to pass on .

We can be the change , We leave our Mothers and Fathers and become one flesh with our mate. Everyone of us can be a Patriarch to a new tribe, a new beginning, new attitude and hope.
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Cause the Old Testament was a lesson on humanitys imperfection and their inability to rule themselves.

God sends aspects of himself down to us reflective in others, so that we may redeem our imperfect attitudes and draw even closer to him.
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So the Jewish people always got it wrong but now they;re getting it right?

And it's "Because" again....
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I never said they will do it right. I cannot vouch for another individual. Collectively, nationaly we call can be judged , yes, But whats great about Judaism is the intense self reflection we are asked to take and not worrying so much about proseletyzing others, converting others or damning others.
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Goodnite all ! Kol Tuv..
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Apollo my friend...Good to see you are making threads of great interest still...IMHO I think that the Jesus/Antichrist thing centers around TWO brothers...They both cannot agree to anything about humanity...One could care less if humanity would vanish...The other finds humanity worthy too continue on...The upcoming slap fight spoke of in the KJB is open too many ideas of what shall take place...Revelation means to reveal...But the revelation is clouded by codes...mistery...and mis interpretations of the language...Done so skillfully to keep humanity in a clouded uproar...pitting them against each other for the sake of each ones understanding of this work...
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Happy to help friend. The Old testament really does hint that there are curses upon generations and that those curses can end, usually after the fourth generation. I just change it to the logical force of forgivenes and ending bad habits and not allowing a past generations imperfections to pass on .

We can be the change , We leave our Mothers and Fathers and become one flesh with our mate. Everyone of us can be a Patriarch to a new tribe, a new beginning, new attitude and hope.
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Well, in my younger years I actually contributed to the cycle of what I learned from my parents.. I was a drunk, I was abusive and I was out of control.. Now that I have quit drinking for the most part, gained personal responsibility, admitted my past mistakes, control my anger the best that I can, etc etc it's just gotten worse.. Is it because they see that I have changed and they don't how to take it? Is it because they see that their influences during my childhood have worn off?

I was pretty much left to die by these people.. I was severely abused by my father which he still denies to this day, he is still a miserable drunk and says that he doesn't drink, which we all know is a lie..

My Mother, when she met my Step-Father, when I hit the age of 15, just took off out of town with him to work together. They would give me $200 for groceries and just leave me for weeks on end.. Me being a 1 year old child and $200 in my hand, well you can imagine how that turned out.. Party Time! I found happiness in a bottle of booze, drugs and fake friends..

It's taken me 2 years of serious effort to change the direction of my life, it was a hell of a struggle, and it's still a struggle..

Last April, I was outside cutting the lawn and the strangest energy came over me.. As someone I know in Esoteric circles described it, I had a peak experience.. On top of the world, instant knowledge of everything I ever wanted to know.. It lasted for a few days, and then it just disappeared as quick as it came.. I have only had a few more experiences since then.. Last time was during the Venus Transit.. Which ended in complete catastrophe.. My own father threatened my life that day.. It was heart wrenching man.. Heart Wrenching!
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Happy to help friend. The Old testament really does hint that there are curses upon generations and that those curses can end, usually after the fourth generation. I just change it to the logical force of forgivenes and ending bad habits and not allowing a past generations imperfections to pass on .

We can be the change , We leave our Mothers and Fathers and become one flesh with our mate. Everyone of us can be a Patriarch to a new tribe, a new beginning, new attitude and hope.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Well, in my younger years I actually contributed to the cycle of what I learned from my parents.. I was a drunk, I was abusive and I was out of control.. Now that I have quit drinking for the most part, gained personal responsibility, admitted my past mistakes, control my anger the best that I can, etc etc it's just gotten worse.. Is it because they see that I have changed and they don't how to take it? Is it because they see that their influences during my childhood have worn off?

I was pretty much left to die by these people.. I was severely abused by my father which he still denies to this day, he is still a miserable drunk and says that he doesn't drink, which we all know is a lie..

My Mother, when she met my Step-Father, when I hit the age of 15, just took off out of town with him to work together. They would give me $200 for groceries and just leave me for weeks on end.. Me being a 1 year old child and $200 in my hand, well you can imagine how that turned out.. Party Time! I found happiness in a bottle of booze, drugs and fake friends..

It's taken me 2 years of serious effort to change the direction of my life, it was a hell of a struggle, and it's still a struggle..

Last April, I was outside cutting the lawn and the strangest energy came over me.. As someone I know in Esoteric circles described it, I had a peak experience.. On top of the world, instant knowledge of everything I ever wanted to know.. It lasted for a few days, and then it just disappeared as quick as it came.. I have only had a few more experiences since then.. Last time was during the Venus Transit.. Which ended in complete catastrophe.. My own father threatened my life that day.. It was heart wrenching man.. Heart Wrenching!
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Not 1 year old, 15.. hahah

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