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And if Israel is wiped off the map?

 
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
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It would violate prophecies of holy scripture and the devils demons would howl with glee, hence it't not going to happen. However you will think it's about to happen when all the surrounding nations invade Israel. Also the antichrist will be permitted to occupy Israel for a few tumultuous years.

In the end they will all fail and those nations will be wiped out. Watch and see and believe before you are lost.
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IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
 Quoting: Orange


It would violate prophecies of holy scripture and the devils demons would howl with glee, hence it't not going to happen. However you will think it's about to happen when all the surrounding nations invade Israel. Also the antichrist will be permitted to occupy Israel for a few tumultuous years.

In the end they will all fail and those nations will be wiped out. Watch and see and believe before you are lost.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


rolleyes
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It would violate prophecies of holy scripture

It's one of the reason why i think Israel could be wipped off the map. Because of the old beliefs of an elected people and a promise land. It was ok in the past but now and for the future God want everyone to know that they are sons and daugthers of God because this is the truth. God loves each of us as if we were is only child. The is not an elected people.
It why i think it could happen, that the christians and the jewish people will see that the old beliefs have to be put away. But it could be an other scenario too.hf
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It's one of the reason why i think Israel could be wipped off the map. Because of the old beliefs of an elected people and a promise land. It was ok in the past but now and for the future God want everyone to know that they are sons and daugthers of God because this is the truth. God loves each of us as if we were is only child. The is not an elected people.
It why i think it could happen, that the christians and the jewish people will see that the old beliefs have to be put away. But it could be an other scenario too.hf
 Quoting: Orange


Agreed. Most christers understand that we were grafted in, but it remains overlooked that the disobedient jews were cut off. And of course, the Vine itself is Christ Jesus. The extra special "Chosen" People are as welcome as anyone to repent and walk with Jesus. It's a level field.

"Apart from Me you can do nothing", yes? Vital point.
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I read the Urantia Book eight years ago and for more then therty years my beleifs were based on the bible and i know other truths from celestials messages on the web.

We are living a very intense time actualy and we are at thr door of a new dispensation (31 December 2012)There will be an other moon in the sky this evening (31 Dec)Jesus will sit in the Temple soon after that. Big changes actualy and to come very soon.
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
 Quoting: Orange


It would violate prophecies of holy scripture and the devils demons would howl with glee, hence it't not going to happen. However you will think it's about to happen when all the surrounding nations invade Israel. Also the antichrist will be permitted to occupy Israel for a few tumultuous years.

In the end they will all fail and those nations will be wiped out. Watch and see and believe before you are lost.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


No it would not, the portion of your scripture supporting Jews and Israel was added to your bible after 1700 ad. there were not jews before the Khazar Zionists made that name for themselves and stole Israel.

Prophecy is not something that has to happen either, it was given so man could prevent it from happening.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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I read the Urantia Book eight years ago and for more then therty years my beleifs were based on the bible and i know other truths from celestials messages on the web.

We are living a very intense time actualy and we are at thr door of a new dispensation (31 December 2012)There will be an other moon in the sky this evening (31 Dec)Jesus will sit in the Temple soon after that. Big changes actualy and to come very soon.
 Quoting: Orange


Where did you get the information about this moon?
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
I read the Urantia Book eight years ago and for more then therty years my beleifs were based on the bible and i know other truths from celestials messages on the web.

We are living a very intense time actualy and we are at thr door of a new dispensation (31 December 2012)There will be an other moon in the sky this evening (31 Dec)Jesus will sit in the Temple soon after that. Big changes actualy and to come very soon.
 Quoting: Orange


Where did you get the information about this moon?
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


Read this Paper all: Thread: New Dispensation begins 31st December 2012..
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
portion of your scripture supporting Jews and Israel was added to your bible after 1700 ad. there were not jews before the Khazar Zionists made that name for themselves and stole Israel.

Prophecy is not something that has to happen either, it was given so man could prevent it from happening.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


Absolutely. . .

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Nearly half the world's supply of matzo balls will have been lost?
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sunnysmilepromisedland

Now that really would be a disaster. fish
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
 Quoting: Orange


It would violate prophecies of holy scripture and the devils demons would howl with glee, hence it't not going to happen. However you will think it's about to happen when all the surrounding nations invade Israel. Also the antichrist will be permitted to occupy Israel for a few tumultuous years.

In the end they will all fail and those nations will be wiped out. Watch and see and believe before you are lost.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


The Antichrist.

LOL what?

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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
It's one of the reason why i think Israel could be wipped off the map. Because of the old beliefs of an elected people and a promise land. It was ok in the past but now and for the future God want everyone to know that they are sons and daugthers of God because this is the truth. God loves each of us as if we were is only child. The is not an elected people.
It why i think it could happen, that the christians and the jewish people will see that the old beliefs have to be put away. But it could be an other scenario too.hf
 Quoting: Orange


Agreed. Most christers understand that we were grafted in, but it remains overlooked that the disobedient jews were cut off. And of course, the Vine itself is Christ Jesus. The extra special "Chosen" People are as welcome as anyone to repent and walk with Jesus. It's a level field.

"Apart from Me you can do nothing", yes? Vital point.
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But: 2. Status of Individual Jews

(1909.1) 175:2.1 The fact that the spiritual leaders and the religious teachers of the Jewish nation onetime rejected the teachings of Jesus and conspired to bring about his cruel death, does not in any manner affect the status of any individual Jew in his standing before God. And it should not cause those who profess to be followers of the Christ to be prejudiced against the Jew as a fellow mortal. The Jews, as a nation, as a sociopolitical group, paid in full the terrible price of rejecting the Prince of Peace. Long since they ceased to be the spiritual torchbearers of divine truth to the races of mankind, but this constitutes no valid reason why the individual descendants of these long-ago Jews should be made to suffer the persecutions which have been visited upon them by intolerant, unworthy, and bigoted professed followers of Jesus of Nazareth, who was, himself, a Jew by natural birth.

(1909.2) 175:2.2 Many times has this unreasoning and un-Christlike hatred and persecution of modern Jews terminated in the suffering and death of some innocent and unoffending Jewish individual whose very ancestors, in the times of Jesus, heartily accepted his gospel and presently died unflinchingly for that truth which they so wholeheartedly believed. What a shudder of horror passes over the onlooking celestial beings as they behold the professed followers of Jesus indulge themselves in persecuting, harassing, and even murdering the later-day descendants of Peter, Philip, Matthew, and others of the Palestinian Jews who so gloriously yielded up their lives as the first martyrs of the gospel of the heavenly kingdom!..

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Why the West fears Islam.



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Love the wallpaper.
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:promisedland:

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Not trying to be ugly here, but is that a projection of the fallout radius? Your "people" have bit off more than they can chew, and this will not likely end well for the world's Perpetual Victims (despite their extensive wealth and influence). You can brainwash as many folks as you want, but the debt will eventually come due.
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promisedland

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Not trying to be ugly here, but is that a projection of the fallout radius? Your "people" have bit off more than they can chew, and this will not likely end well for the world's Perpetual Victims (despite their extensive wealth and influence). You can brainwash as many folks as you want, but the debt will eventually come due.
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Islam is a real problem too:



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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
good riddance. anybody who chooses to live there and continue the occupation is ignorant of how the land was taken in the first place. nobody should be proud to call themselves an israeli IMO
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
 Quoting: Orange


It would be the end of the West.

Maybe not physically but ethically and morally the West would be bankrupt. It would turn its back on the struggles and losses that took place in WW2 and thereafter in the name of freedom.

It would be VERY serious.

That's why it won't happen, and I'm pretty sure that if Israel would become that threatened that I would sign up to defend Israel. Because NOW we have the internet and we can inform ourselves so that no fucking religious moron can decide that all jews have to die because of their religious idiocity.

Although I'm certain Israel has all the power needed to defend itself. And then some.
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Re: And if Israel is wiped off the map?
IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
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It would be the end of the West.

Maybe not physically but ethically and morally the West would be bankrupt. It would turn its back on the struggles and losses that took place in WW2 and thereafter in the name of freedom.

It would be VERY serious.

That's why it won't happen, and I'm pretty sure that if Israel would become that threatened that I would sign up to defend Israel. Because NOW we have the internet and we can inform ourselves so that no fucking religious moron can decide that all jews have to die because of their religious idiocity.

Although I'm certain Israel has all the power needed to defend itself. And then some.
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And by "their religious idiocity", I mean the Islamists ideologies.
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IMO it is posible because of the situation in the Middle East.

What would be the effects for the West?
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Nearly half the world's supply of matzo balls will have been lost?
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sunnysmilepromisedland

Now that really would be a disaster. fish
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I love you sister. But i can't mary you because i'm not a jewish and i cn't mary a muslim woman because i'm not muslim..

you understand? If we are ALL brothers and sisters we should be able to maried anyone.
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