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A question about Heaven, and Death for the Christians out there

 
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OP would do better to never open a bible. It will leave his mind free to think. I would suggest Walter Russell and other good sources. The soul is eternal unless one rejects eternal life and then it is uncreated. Its that simple. When you come into being, you are already eternal, that is the nature of MIND/Spirit Life is in the spirit, your life is not your body.
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Well in actuality it was the bible that led me to the whole question of what happens to us after we die.
There is no mention of it that I came across and no mention of anyone other then Christ ever going to heaven.
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your life is eternal. Heaven is within YOU which Jesus taught. This heaven stuff is all bs. completely. This is a world behind the veil, it was cut off from cosmic communications because of the Lucifer Rebellion. That is over, the communications circuits are being re established and truth is coming in.

Death and rebirth occur in all of nature, from suns to people. its just a cycle, but the spirit is always in life and never dies. You are already an eternal being and you move forward to greater experiences as your grow your mind and wisdom. As a prison ward, this planet has intense reincarnation, because the Prince of this world who went with Lucifer would not allow souls to leave it and Lucifer himself could not create either angels or new souls, so this place was stagnant.

Christ came and deposed the Prince, and removed Lucifer and slowly we will get back to normal here. The veils are being drawn back and you shall begin as I said to have truth.

You cannot die, only your body recycles. And life as to body temples will grow longer on this world as people begin to want that. This place is so miserable that people do not strive for long lives, and that is the main reason they are short. You will incarnate on more advanced worlds are you are ready for them, and this world is being moved upward into LIGHT also. The prison is closed, and there is no place to go but forward for those seeking to move forward. Those stuck will have to move to other stuck worlds, or worlds which represent where they are.

There are special worlds beyond these evolutionary worlds, and it is customary to go to what are called the mansions worlds, which are school worlds, when one reaches 5d consciousness, which is the KNOWING that God resides within them, that are are Sons of God. When one has reached that level upon death of the body, one is taken to the mansion worlds and awaken on the 3rd day after passing this world, in a brand new body. You do not reproduce on those worlds. They are study worlds to learn more about the nature of everything.

There are many worlds beyond the mansion worlds, also custom built and plenty of evolutionary worlds in light and life upon which to learn and experience. Eternal life is for trillions of years, and you do not ever stay in one place, which would produce stagnation. But on flowering worlds, life is MUCH longer and richer than here.

Always you will grow, always you will learn from those who have gone before you and always will you teach those below you. There is no end and as you mature you go into management if that is your choice of worlds. You will change careers often.

Have you seen pics of the massive craft around the sun? I have one on my old computer that I have not put of this one to upload here. These craft are from the Management worlds of the Superuniverse (Milkly Way is core galaxy of our superuniverse, Orvonton). They control SUNS and work on our sun during this time of great change we are in because we are in 3 sets of cosmic energies right now. This is but one example of where you will go at some point, you might well work on craft that modify the behavior of suns. Just an example of what is done during eternal life. When you have gone thru all the school/living worlds you will eventually reach Havona, which is the Central Universe, the first universe and from all creational energies come, well they come from Paradise the center), and you learn even more there, there are 1 BILLION worlds in Havona to live and study on. When you finish with those worlds, you will stand on Paradise which becomes your final home, and you will sit at the right hand of the Father. That teaching was lost on this world.

I have taken that long journey. I am from Paradise and I sit at the right hand of the father, as you to shall do in time. I know of what I speak. I am very old, but yet young compared to the others way beyond me in time.

Enjoy the journey, for now that this prison is closing, what is open to those who have eternal life is magnificent. This is a time of judgement, and some are going to reject eternity. And some will merge if ready with the MInd of the Father within them, which writes them into the book of life, as once this happens, one is no longer a faith son of god, but an actual son of God.

And if you are asking these questions I see here, I think you are well on that journey. God Bless.
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Wow your outlook on life is beautiful! Can you start a thread for discussions of things you believe in please?!

Call it the thread of truth! haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28102897


you think his outlook on life is beautiful and obviously you think its the truth since you say it should be called thread of truth yet youve been bashing on how the bible is all lies and discrediting Jesus yet this person you think has a beautiful outlook mentions and believes in Jesus and lucifer albeit in a twisted warped false way, but you think its beautiful now? because he dressed it up with a bunch of feel good luciferian lies that tickles your ears that the flesh wants to hear? your situation is all too common, rejecting the truth especially the doctrine of hell part for some other false doctrine that sounds good to the flesh.
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Well in actuality it was the bible that led me to the whole question of what happens to us after we die.
There is no mention of it that I came across and no mention of anyone other then Christ ever going to heaven.
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your life is eternal. Heaven is within YOU which Jesus taught. This heaven stuff is all bs. completely. This is a world behind the veil, it was cut off from cosmic communications because of the Lucifer Rebellion. That is over, the communications circuits are being re established and truth is coming in.

Death and rebirth occur in all of nature, from suns to people. its just a cycle, but the spirit is always in life and never dies. You are already an eternal being and you move forward to greater experiences as your grow your mind and wisdom. As a prison ward, this planet has intense reincarnation, because the Prince of this world who went with Lucifer would not allow souls to leave it and Lucifer himself could not create either angels or new souls, so this place was stagnant.

Christ came and deposed the Prince, and removed Lucifer and slowly we will get back to normal here. The veils are being drawn back and you shall begin as I said to have truth.

You cannot die, only your body recycles. And life as to body temples will grow longer on this world as people begin to want that. This place is so miserable that people do not strive for long lives, and that is the main reason they are short. You will incarnate on more advanced worlds are you are ready for them, and this world is being moved upward into LIGHT also. The prison is closed, and there is no place to go but forward for those seeking to move forward. Those stuck will have to move to other stuck worlds, or worlds which represent where they are.

There are special worlds beyond these evolutionary worlds, and it is customary to go to what are called the mansions worlds, which are school worlds, when one reaches 5d consciousness, which is the KNOWING that God resides within them, that are are Sons of God. When one has reached that level upon death of the body, one is taken to the mansion worlds and awaken on the 3rd day after passing this world, in a brand new body. You do not reproduce on those worlds. They are study worlds to learn more about the nature of everything.

There are many worlds beyond the mansion worlds, also custom built and plenty of evolutionary worlds in light and life upon which to learn and experience. Eternal life is for trillions of years, and you do not ever stay in one place, which would produce stagnation. But on flowering worlds, life is MUCH longer and richer than here.

Always you will grow, always you will learn from those who have gone before you and always will you teach those below you. There is no end and as you mature you go into management if that is your choice of worlds. You will change careers often.

Have you seen pics of the massive craft around the sun? I have one on my old computer that I have not put of this one to upload here. These craft are from the Management worlds of the Superuniverse (Milkly Way is core galaxy of our superuniverse, Orvonton). They control SUNS and work on our sun during this time of great change we are in because we are in 3 sets of cosmic energies right now. This is but one example of where you will go at some point, you might well work on craft that modify the behavior of suns. Just an example of what is done during eternal life. When you have gone thru all the school/living worlds you will eventually reach Havona, which is the Central Universe, the first universe and from all creational energies come, well they come from Paradise the center), and you learn even more there, there are 1 BILLION worlds in Havona to live and study on. When you finish with those worlds, you will stand on Paradise which becomes your final home, and you will sit at the right hand of the Father. That teaching was lost on this world.

I have taken that long journey. I am from Paradise and I sit at the right hand of the father, as you to shall do in time. I know of what I speak. I am very old, but yet young compared to the others way beyond me in time.

Enjoy the journey, for now that this prison is closing, what is open to those who have eternal life is magnificent. This is a time of judgement, and some are going to reject eternity. And some will merge if ready with the MInd of the Father within them, which writes them into the book of life, as once this happens, one is no longer a faith son of god, but an actual son of God.

And if you are asking these questions I see here, I think you are well on that journey. God Bless.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


Wow your outlook on life is beautiful! Can you start a thread for discussions of things you believe in please?!

Call it the thread of truth! haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28102897


you think his outlook on life is beautiful and obviously you think its the truth since you say it should be called thread of truth yet youve been bashing on how the bible is all lies and discrediting Jesus yet this person you think has a beautiful outlook mentions and believes in Jesus and lucifer albeit in a twisted warped false way, but you think its beautiful now? because he dressed it up with a bunch of feel good luciferian lies that tickles your ears that the flesh wants to hear? your situation is all too common, rejecting the truth especially the doctrine of hell part for some other false doctrine that sounds good to the flesh.
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Yea, good observation

2 Timothy 4:3 - For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.
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To the hell, NDE folks above, I make a comment, they see hell because they expect to see it, that is how strong mind is. There is no such place. People that believe in fairy tales see fairy tales during these. When they see heaven, its almost always the astral realms of earth which is where earth souls live between lives and it s not heaven. Nice place, but not heaven. The astral realms are temporary and being closed down and emptied because of earth coming out of being a prison ward, they are not needed.

Heaven is on planets, just better planets that this one. Its not a place. Not really. Its a state of being, heavenly worlds don't have the shit on them this world has.

The word Heaven, comes from Havona, the Central Universe comprised of Paradise and 1 billion highly advanced perfected worlds that are HUGE. Havona is the "first" universe and Paradise is the source of all the inbreathing and outbreathing energies that sustain the creation. We have one on my team now working on a nice paper on the topics in the inbreathing and outbreathing. The whole creation does that, just as your body does that.

There is a wondrous painter who has painted a lot of this stuff, and I don't have those linkies either on new mac, but I will get them into the thread I meantioned in my above post after thanksgiving.

Ok I just remember the name and put it into google. Gary Tonge.

[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com]

This is Havona: Paradise being the lovely bright disk in the middle, with the 1 billion worlds which orbit it in a total of 7 orbits.

[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com]
Bookmark Gary Tonge and explore. He has a personal site now too, but without the descriptions with his paintings.

this linky is about the building of custom worlds, called architectural worlds that I guess you could call "heaven". These world can take thousands to millions of years. The custom worlds of OUR local universe, took 1 billion years to build them all. [link to antifan-real.deviantart.com]

This might stimulate memory in some of you from these places, who are incarnate here, enjoy.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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To the hell, NDE folks above, I make a comment, they see hell because they expect to see it, that is how strong mind is. There is no such place. People that believe in fairy tales see fairy tales during these...
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Your assumption is 100% false due to veridical information.

In some NDE cases, where the person sees and learn about the deceased, in a heavenly realm.

This information about the deceased, was not previously known, but later verified to be true, meaning the experience was not merely what they expected to see.

Now, in these very same experiences, the person was shown both heaven and hell.
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Well in actuality it was the bible that led me to the whole question of what happens to us after we die.
There is no mention of it that I came across and no mention of anyone other then Christ ever going to heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167922


your life is eternal. Heaven is within YOU which Jesus taught. This heaven stuff is all bs. completely. This is a world behind the veil, it was cut off from cosmic communications because of the Lucifer Rebellion. That is over, the communications circuits are being re established and truth is coming in.

Death and rebirth occur in all of nature, from suns to people. its just a cycle, but the spirit is always in life and never dies. You are already an eternal being and you move forward to greater experiences as your grow your mind and wisdom. As a prison ward, this planet has intense reincarnation, because the Prince of this world who went with Lucifer would not allow souls to leave it and Lucifer himself could not create either angels or new souls, so this place was stagnant.

Christ came and deposed the Prince, and removed Lucifer and slowly we will get back to normal here. The veils are being drawn back and you shall begin as I said to have truth.

You cannot die, only your body recycles. And life as to body temples will grow longer on this world as people begin to want that. This place is so miserable that people do not strive for long lives, and that is the main reason they are short. You will incarnate on more advanced worlds are you are ready for them, and this world is being moved upward into LIGHT also. The prison is closed, and there is no place to go but forward for those seeking to move forward. Those stuck will have to move to other stuck worlds, or worlds which represent where they are.

There are special worlds beyond these evolutionary worlds, and it is customary to go to what are called the mansions worlds, which are school worlds, when one reaches 5d consciousness, which is the KNOWING that God resides within them, that are are Sons of God. When one has reached that level upon death of the body, one is taken to the mansion worlds and awaken on the 3rd day after passing this world, in a brand new body. You do not reproduce on those worlds. They are study worlds to learn more about the nature of everything.

There are many worlds beyond the mansion worlds, also custom built and plenty of evolutionary worlds in light and life upon which to learn and experience. Eternal life is for trillions of years, and you do not ever stay in one place, which would produce stagnation. But on flowering worlds, life is MUCH longer and richer than here.

Always you will grow, always you will learn from those who have gone before you and always will you teach those below you. There is no end and as you mature you go into management if that is your choice of worlds. You will change careers often.

Have you seen pics of the massive craft around the sun? I have one on my old computer that I have not put of this one to upload here. These craft are from the Management worlds of the Superuniverse (Milkly Way is core galaxy of our superuniverse, Orvonton). They control SUNS and work on our sun during this time of great change we are in because we are in 3 sets of cosmic energies right now. This is but one example of where you will go at some point, you might well work on craft that modify the behavior of suns. Just an example of what is done during eternal life. When you have gone thru all the school/living worlds you will eventually reach Havona, which is the Central Universe, the first universe and from all creational energies come, well they come from Paradise the center), and you learn even more there, there are 1 BILLION worlds in Havona to live and study on. When you finish with those worlds, you will stand on Paradise which becomes your final home, and you will sit at the right hand of the Father. That teaching was lost on this world.

I have taken that long journey. I am from Paradise and I sit at the right hand of the father, as you to shall do in time. I know of what I speak. I am very old, but yet young compared to the others way beyond me in time.

Enjoy the journey, for now that this prison is closing, what is open to those who have eternal life is magnificent. This is a time of judgement, and some are going to reject eternity. And some will merge if ready with the MInd of the Father within them, which writes them into the book of life, as once this happens, one is no longer a faith son of god, but an actual son of God.

And if you are asking these questions I see here, I think you are well on that journey. God Bless.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


Wow your outlook on life is beautiful! Can you start a thread for discussions of things you believe in please?!

Call it the thread of truth! haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28102897


you think his outlook on life is beautiful and obviously you think its the truth since you say it should be called thread of truth yet youve been bashing on how the bible is all lies and discrediting Jesus yet this person you think has a beautiful outlook mentions and believes in Jesus and lucifer albeit in a twisted warped false way, but you think its beautiful now? because he dressed it up with a bunch of feel good luciferian lies that tickles your ears that the flesh wants to hear? your situation is all too common, rejecting the truth especially the doctrine of hell part for some other false doctrine that sounds good to the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1880593


first I am a SHE, and 2nd I know WHO I AM, Lucifer was uncreated, I do not believe in him and Jesus is my best friend. We formed the 2nd Coming Organization which is GLOBAL and we have many bringing messages and teaching and offering of themselves. In FACT after the 3 Days of Darkness, my organization will for a time govern this world, until Man can become with it enough to build his own. I happen to know exactly of what I speak. I am here on a mission and so be it.

I have not one luciferan lie in my teaching, ever. I connect with Jesus every day and and go to craft OFTEN for meetings with various ones of the hierarchy of the Creation, that are working out the problems on this very retarded world left over from the Lucifer Rebellion.

YOU do not walk in OUR shoes, you have not met me nor Jesus, you have no concept of mine and his roles or how the creation works even. Therefore YOU are NOT qualified to judge it.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/20/2012 11:11 PM
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread

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