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we knew about the hydrogen sulfide 3 months ago, look at the assumptions thread. I'll go find it.

Here it is: the information starts talking about hydroxide (mine OH) but we couldn't be sure what he was saying.

Thread: Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand. (Page 36)
 Quoting: Let Freedom Ring


It was amazing how many people got sucked in to that Assumption thread in terms of the cryptic messages and "codes" - when it appeared they were being played.

Anyone with TRUE insider info would not have engaged in such moronic game-playing on a forum where they could post anonymously.

But moreover, posters who are legitimately concerned about the LA sinkhole situation (which should be EVERY citizen in this country) should have been angered that someone would play games instead of getting to the core of the matter and provide solid, sound evidence and information.
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Well, AC, it is amazing that the OP of that thread said the folks could never go back home, MONTHS AGO, when the sinkhole was no bigger than a football field. He also predicted the Hydrogen Sulfide MONTHS AGO. Admittedly there were lots of shills and trolls on the thread, and you were probably one of them.
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The OP of that thread offered NO information that a few other posters had not already found via their research.

There were posters there who did extensive research and connected legitimate dots . . . all the while "East Texas and the dawgs" were posting their cryptic little messages that merely rehashed what had already been posted, even though they seemed awfully concerned about getting credit for what was posted. On a subject as serious as GOM/BP/sinkhole, what matters is the message. And if someone has factual, legit information, and they can post on an anonymous forum like this, they need to post it straightaway, without the silly game-playing and cryptic "codes".
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4:35 Texas Brine reports H2S at sonic well

Texas Brine has reported high levels of H2S from their sonic vent well that is drilled into the cap rock. The well was shut in due to these levels. DNR's contractor, The Shaw Group, is currently investigating. We are currently waiting on additional details from DNR.

Please be advised that H2S is an extremely dangerous gas. Unlike methane, it is heavier than air and collects at low to the ground levels. No community air monitors have detected H2S. Monitoring will continue as usual.

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A little off topic here, but I have always wondered... the "DNR" initials, unfortunately those initials also have a fatal meaning, as in "DO NOT RECCESITATE" (spelling police don't attack me)
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Department of Natural Resources. A lot of info can be found at the Louisiana DNR .gov website. See Team Reapers posts in the Don't Make Assumptions thread. Great links in those posts.
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Hydrogen sulphide. A dangerous gas
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Like the kind of gas that leaks out around Volcano's and kills all the villagers in the area type deal.

There is going to be somthing really bad come of all of this. Get the fuck out of there now people. I mean it.
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Especially if one lives in a low lying area....a hollow. That gas will push the oxygen right outa there.....suffocation.
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Hydrogen sulphide. A dangerous gas
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Like the kind of gas that leaks out around Volcano's and kills all the villagers in the area type deal.

There is going to be somthing really bad come of all of this. Get the fuck out of there now people. I mean it.
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Especially if one lives in a low lying area....a hollow. That gas will push the oxygen right outa there.....suffocation.
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Yes, that is a real concern.
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New flyover videos posted.. wow O.o
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4:00 pm increased seismic activity reported.

Dr. Horton has advised that increased seismic activity was recorded between 6 pm and midnight, yesterday. The cause of this activity is unknown.

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OMG Look at the size of that now. You can see the spread.
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You can clearly see the oil in this one.
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An increase of earthquakes that began between 6 p.m. and midnight at the Bayou Corne sinkhole disaster area Tuesday has continued Wednesday, according to university helicorder reports.

The same day high concentrations of poisonous gas were discovered at Louisiana's giant sinkhole site in Assumption Parish, there was increased seismic activity recorded between 6 p.m. and midnight in the vicinity.

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It just gets worse and worse. And I think I read on one of these sinkhole threads, I apologize, I'm not sure which now, but I read on of them that the workers were taking off now until Monday. That seems like it could be a big, red flag everyone.
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It just gets worse and worse. And I think I read on one of these sinkhole threads, I apologize, I'm not sure which now, but I read on of them that the workers were taking off now until Monday. That seems like it could be a big, red flag everyone.
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I would say so, but isn't it thanksgiving weekend over there?
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It just gets worse and worse. And I think I read on one of these sinkhole threads, I apologize, I'm not sure which now, but I read on of them that the workers were taking off now until Monday. That seems like it could be a big, red flag everyone.
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I would say so, but isn't it thanksgiving weekend over there?
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It is and it is not uncommon for businesses to also close on Friday to make it a 4 day weekend. It just seems questionable that they'd shut it down with the escalating conditions as dangerous as they are there though. It could just be bad timing I guess. I hope.
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You can clearly see the oil in this one.
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Wow, that's incredible.
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It just gets worse and worse. And I think I read on one of these sinkhole threads, I apologize, I'm not sure which now, but I read on of them that the workers were taking off now until Monday. That seems like it could be a big, red flag everyone.
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Full update

Texas Brine Company, LLC
UPDATE November 21, 2012

1. The Observation Well will remain shut in until Monday, November 26. Casing pressure will be continuously monitored today through Monday morning.

2. Debris, apparently from the bottom of the sinkhole, rose to the surface accompanied by a brief period of water movement. That debris is being cleared from the surface. There have been no other observable changes to
the sinkhole shape or size. Skimming of residual hydrocarbon material the tree-lined southern and southeastern edges of the sinkhole perimeter continued today. No clean-up activities are scheduled for Thanksgiving Day.
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3. Due to the discovery of hydrogen sulfide that was being carried to the surface with the natural gas venting from the caprock Relief Well #2, the well was shut in Monday evening shortly after this discovery and remains that way today. Texas Brine is submitting a proposal to the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources that the well no longer be used for venting and that it be closed permanently by plugging it.

4. Venting and flaring of natural gas from the shallow aquifer Relief Well #1 continued today and will continue 24 hours per day until Monday, November 26. On Monday, it is planned to remove water in the casing that is apparently impeding gas flow to the surface. It should be noted that during the entire life of Relief Well #1, hydrogen sulfide has not been detected.
For more information about Texas Brine Company’s response to the Bayou Corne incident, visit:

[link to www.texasbrine.com]


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Thread: Officials: We’ve been advised that increased seismic activity has been recorded near Louisiana sinkhole
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It just gets worse and worse. And I think I read on one of these sinkhole threads, I apologize, I'm not sure which now, but I read on of them that the workers were taking off now until Monday. That seems like it could be a big, red flag everyone.
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Full update

Texas Brine Company, LLC
UPDATE November 21, 2012

1. The Observation Well will remain shut in until Monday, November 26. Casing pressure will be continuously monitored today through Monday morning.

2. Debris, apparently from the bottom of the sinkhole, rose to the surface accompanied by a brief period of water movement. That debris is being cleared from the surface. There have been no other observable changes to
the sinkhole shape or size. Skimming of residual hydrocarbon material the tree-lined southern and southeastern edges of the sinkhole perimeter continued today. No clean-up activities are scheduled for Thanksgiving Day.
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3. Due to the discovery of hydrogen sulfide that was being carried to the surface with the natural gas venting from the caprock Relief Well #2, the well was shut in Monday evening shortly after this discovery and remains that way today. Texas Brine is submitting a proposal to the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources that the well no longer be used for venting and that it be closed permanently by plugging it.

4. Venting and flaring of natural gas from the shallow aquifer Relief Well #1 continued today and will continue 24 hours per day until Monday, November 26. On Monday, it is planned to remove water in the casing that is apparently impeding gas flow to the surface. It should be noted that during the entire life of Relief Well #1, hydrogen sulfide has not been detected.
For more information about Texas Brine Company’s response to the Bayou Corne incident, visit:

[link to www.texasbrine.com]


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Thread: Officials: We’ve been advised that increased seismic activity has been recorded near Louisiana sinkhole

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thank you!

hf
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It just gets worse and worse. And I think I read on one of these sinkhole threads, I apologize, I'm not sure which now, but I read on of them that the workers were taking off now until Monday. That seems like it could be a big, red flag everyone.
 Quoting: scorpio66


Full update

Texas Brine Company, LLC
UPDATE November 21, 2012

1. The Observation Well will remain shut in until Monday, November 26. Casing pressure will be continuously monitored today through Monday morning.

2. Debris, apparently from the bottom of the sinkhole, rose to the surface accompanied by a brief period of water movement. That debris is being cleared from the surface. There have been no other observable changes to
the sinkhole shape or size. Skimming of residual hydrocarbon material the tree-lined southern and southeastern edges of the sinkhole perimeter continued today. No clean-up activities are scheduled for Thanksgiving Day.
from

3. Due to the discovery of hydrogen sulfide that was being carried to the surface with the natural gas venting from the caprock Relief Well #2, the well was shut in Monday evening shortly after this discovery and remains that way today. Texas Brine is submitting a proposal to the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources that the well no longer be used for venting and that it be closed permanently by plugging it.

4. Venting and flaring of natural gas from the shallow aquifer Relief Well #1 continued today and will continue 24 hours per day until Monday, November 26. On Monday, it is planned to remove water in the casing that is apparently impeding gas flow to the surface. It should be noted that during the entire life of Relief Well #1, hydrogen sulfide has not been detected.
For more information about Texas Brine Company’s response to the Bayou Corne incident, visit:

[link to www.texasbrine.com]


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Thread: Officials: We’ve been advised that increased seismic activity has been recorded near Louisiana sinkhole

 Quoting: itsamadmadworld


thank you!

hf
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YW . . . this thread should be pinned, don't you agree?
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YW . . . this thread should be pinned, don't you agree?
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Probably. More people need to see this before it's too late. It's getting worse, more dangerous each day and it's just a matter of time before something tragic happens to not only the nearby residents but potentially on a much larger scale as well.
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Hydrogen Sulfide Gas

If you wait for a warning, it may be too late


Hydrogen sulfide is a powerful and deadly gas which smells like rotten eggs at low concentrations and has a sweet smell at high concentrations. But workers should not rely on the smell as a warning. At high concentrations H2S may overcome one's sense of smell. The result could be instant death. Long exposure to low concentrations will also deaden the sense of smell.
What it is

H2S is explosive - it will ignite and explode when subjected to a spark or ordinary flame - in any concentration from 4% to 44% of the air. It is also soluble in water and oil, so it may flow for a considerable distance from its origin before escaping above ground or in an entirely unexpected place. Because the vapor (gas) is heavier than air, it may travel for a long way until ignited and then flash back towards the source.
Where is it found?

Hydrogen sulfide is found in large amounts in natural gas and petroleum. Any worker involved in extracting gas and petroleum from the ground, or in storing, transporting or processing gas is at risk from exposure to H2S Hydrogen sulfide exists in solution in crude oil, and workers are exposed when the gas begins to "pass off" as it reaches the surface or comes into contact with air. This can occur at any point, including all stages of the refining operation, and it is accelerated by heat or hot weather.
H2S Sources

H2S is found widely in industry and few workers are warned of its dangers or their exposure. It is formed by the decomposition of organic materials, so it is found in natural gas and oil, in mines, wells, fertilizers, sewers, and cesspools. It is given off as a by-product in the manufacture of rayon, synthetic rubber, dyes and the tanning of leather.
Health Effects of H2S acute exposure

First of all, and most important, H2S can kill you. The extent of acute poisoning danger depends on the concentration of H2S in the atmosphere.
When you breathe in H2S, it goes directly through your lungs and into your bloodstream. To protect itself, your body "oxidizes" (breaks down) the H2S as rapidly as possible into a harmless compound. If you breathe in so much H2S that your body can't oxidize all of it, the H2S builds up in the blood and you become poisoned. The nervous centers in your brain which control breathing are paralyzed. Your lungs stop working and you are asphyxiated - just as though someone had come up and put their hands around your neck and strangled you. A worker can be overcome by H2S and lose consciousness in a few seconds; luckily if he is rescued in time and is given artificial respiration within a few minutes, the worker may recover. Either artificial mouth-to-mouth or an oxygen supply system of resuscitation will work if it is done in time, because, with an adequate source of oxygen and no further H2S intake, the body will quickly break down the H2S still in the blood.

This is acute poisoning. It can occur with no warning at all, since even the sense of smell may be overcome, and it can be fatal within a few seconds.

Although acute poisoning is deadly if it is not caught in time, when caught and treated it is reversible and this is why rescue attempts with proper safety equipment are so important.

Recent evidence has shown irreversible brain damage from acute high doses.

Chronic effects

H2S can also cause a wide range of sub-acute and chronic effects. At very low concentrations of 10-100 ppm.) headache, dizziness, nausea and vomiting may develop, together with irritation of the eyes and respiratory tract (the lungs and trachea and bronchi, or air pipes from the nose and mouth to the lungs). The eyes become red, sore, inflamed, and sensitive to light. Respiratory system effects include cough, pain in the nose and throat, and pain on breathing.
If exposure at low levels continues, the worker may develop a state of chronic poisoning. In addition to eye and respiratory tract irritation, there will be a slowed pulse rate, fatigue, insomnia, digestive disturbances, and cold sweats. More dangerous, if exposure at the level of 100 ppm (which results in eye and respiratory tract irritation and drowsiness after 15 minutes) lasts for several hours, it may result in death within the next 48 hours. Symptoms of chronic exposures at low levels are conjunctivitis (eye infections), headache, attacks of dizziness, diarrhea, and loss of weight.

Chronic hydrogen sulfide intoxication is marked by headaches, eye disorders, chronic bronchitis, and a grey-green line on the gums. Reports of nervous system disorders including paralysis, meningitis, and neurological problems has been reported, but not confirmed.

A study of workers and community residents of a California refinery engaged in extracting sulfur from crude oil, which is rich in H2S, complained of headaches, nausea, vomiting, depression, personality changes, nosebleeds and breathing difficulties. When compared to a non-exposed group of people, the exposed people showed abnormalities of color discrimination, eye-hand coordination, balance, and mood disturbances.

In rats, exposure to hydrogen sulfide has caused teratogenic effects.

How much is safe?

The OSHA Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL) for a ceiling concentration is 20 ppm hydrogen sulfide, a level which may not ever be exceeded. The acceptable maximum peak, for 10 minutes only, once during an 8 hour day if there is no other measurable exposure, is 50 ppm.
There is no time-weighted average because H2S is so fast-acting that no fluctuations above 20 ppm are safe; only one peak per day is allowed.

This level is too high and recent recommendations are that it be lowered to 10 ppm. You should remember, however, that H2S is an invisible gas, floating freely and unpredictably, and a reading even below a 10 ppm Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL) may not guarantee your safety.

There are no particular medical exams for exposure to H2S.

Work practices and emergency procedures

Whenever you enter a confined space such as a tank, make sure that you follow strict work practices, including a permit system. Make sure that the Confined Space Entry Standard 1910.146 is followed, that the air is continually monitored for the presence of H2S, and that a buddy be stationed outside a confined space. Both of you should wear supplied air and lifelines and rescue equipment must be immediately available.

If you work with H2S make sure that:
* Your employer has trained you in the hazards of H2S.
* Your employer has appropriate rescue equipment on-site.


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I wish someone would explain why the heli charts die down in the evening until morning and are bonkers in the day time...
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Hydrogen sulphide. A dangerous gas
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The gas, produced by mixing certain household ingredients, was used in a suicide wave in 2008 in Japan.
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mustard gas
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Bumping for updates
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Hey Guys and Gals.The fly overs dont do justice to the actual scale of this event.

Please have a look at this cross section of the dome, which only show the absolute top left hand corner of the entire dome.

The teeny little body of water shown at the very top is the sink hole.

[link to i824.photobucket.com]

Take in the scale of it all. Then imagine what might be going on below ground, especially with regard mthyl hydrates, pockets of already free methane, the butane just next door, other created oil reserves. All could be destabilised and mixing.

[*** the butane is in the same dome btw. Just not shown]

This is just one dome. But, they are all interconnected from base layers of salt. The domes themselves are only mushroom like protrusions towards the surface.

This cross sectional pic shows this. The teeny bit towards the top left hand corner where it says LS state and dry land, demonstrates scale.

[link to i824.photobucket.com]

I maintain my earlier comments that this isnt just about Assumption. The very same issue's the DWH created at the Macondo site, I believe are connected physically, geologically, to Assumption. Might have taken two years to show up on land, but a show it is.

200miles in two years.

Please look at this cross section to take in the potential of what is going on. Then add in all the other domes.

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It's all about the 'vibe'
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Yes it is very, very bad.
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Yes it is very, very bad.
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I guess, OP, regardless of it being good or bad, it is happening, and I doubt much can or will be done to stop it.

Sadly, most major events around the GoM will probably be treated as such. That is, until it is no longer viable or stable to remove oil and gas from the areas.

Ultimately, maybe 10 years from now, I think much of the current populace will live inland, or along the new sea way connecting the Great Lakes to what was once the GoM.
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I believe you may be correct aussie, but in a shorter timeframe than you may think.
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I wish someone would explain why the heli charts die down in the evening until morning and are bonkers in the day time...
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I have been wondering the same. I thought maybe it was due to drilling during the day? Or some kind of activity.

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