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BREAKING! Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out!!

 
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Good luck on enforcing this.America will run red with the blood of the folks trying to take the guns.Americans will band together.Revolution 2.0

Remember......Shall not infringe.
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I totally agree that it will be war if they try to take the guns. If they pass that legislation there will be no such thing as a safe armed government employee. I won't miss cops, but I'd sort of miss the sheriffs. I've never gotten a ticket from a sheriff.
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Obama is the greatest firearms salesman this country has ever seen.
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In 2004, he said he was "consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry," and that he'd back "federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement." Mr. Obama had already put that anti-self-defense belief into action in 2001, voting against a state Senate bill that would have allowed people who receive protective orders - such as domestic violence victims - to carry firearms. Why? Because, in Mr. Obama's world, "authorizing potential victims to carry firearms would potentially lead to a more dangerous rather than less dangerous situation … It was a bad idea and I'm glad it failed," he said.
Mr. Obama also claims he's no threat to hunters.

But in 2005, he voted for a ban on all but the smallest rifle ammunition used for hunting (or for anything else). If the measure had passed, it would have classified most rifle ammunition beyond the low-powered .22 caliber as "armor piercing ammunition," prohibited for civilian manufacture by federal law. The ammunition ban was hardly Mr. Obama's first act against hunters, either. In 1999, Mr. Obama proposed increasing firearm and ammunition excise taxes by 500 percent. Right now, a rifle that a manufacturer sells for $500 carries an excise tax of $55. Under Mr. Obama's proposal, that amount would rocket to $330. This would turn a tax willingly paid by sportsmen, which funds many of our wildlife conservation programs, into a tool to punish gun buyers.

Also, while Mr. Obama promises hunters, "I will not take your shotgun away," his votes tell a different story.
In 2003, while serving on the Illinois state Senate's Judiciary Committee, Mr. Obama voted for a bill that would have banned (as so-called "semi-automatic assault weapons") most single-shot and double-barreled shotguns, along with hundreds of models of rifles and handguns. If the bill had passed, any Illinois resident who possessed one of these guns 90 days after legislation went into effect, would have faced felony charges. What was that about not taking shotguns away?

As if voting for anti-gun plans wasn't bad enough, Mr. Obama also helped pay for them. He was a board member from 1994 to 2001 of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation, which is the largest source of funding for radical anti-gun groups in the country. On Mr. Obama's watch, Joyce donated $18.6 million to approximately 80 anti-gun efforts, including $1.5 million to the Violence Policy Center, the nation's most aggressive gun-prohibitionist group. Many of the Joyce Foundation's projects were aimed at editing the Second Amendment out of the Constitution.

But an Obama Supreme Court could do that more directly. Mr. Obama has said he would not have nominated Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. It was Justice Scalia who wrote the majority opinion in D.C. v. Heller, which declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, and that D.C.'s handgun ban is unconstitutional. Justice Thomas joined in that opinion. As a member of the U.S. Senate, Mr. Obama also voted against confirming Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, both of whom joined Justice Scalia's majority opinion in Heller. That means four of the five pro-freedom votes on the Supreme Court would not have been there under an Obama presidency.
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Good luck on enforcing this.America will run red with the blood of the folks trying to take the guns.Americans will band together.Revolution 2.0

Remember......Shall not infringe.
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Yea .... just like the did in the 94 assault weapons ban . more like the sheep will bow to king obummer and turn their shit in lol
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I kids doubt it. Even normal non conspiracy tard people are really starting to feel that society might soon collapse. Economy,war,terrorism whatever. They feel very insecure. Hard to take from or get someone who feels this way to give up their weapons IMO. I don't think they will do it. I think it would probably bring violence across the country if they{govt} even tried. The world is different and less kind than it was in 94.
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You mean like in Katrina where not one person successfully refused the confiscation?
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The dems don't have the votes OP. It will never get through congress. The house is still in repubs hands. The senate has both repubs and a few dems beholden to the NRA. But that they would even want to push legislation like this is disturbing.
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doesn't mean he can't issue an executive order bypassing congress...he has signed dozens
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I suggest we all take part of a campaign - my TAKE A LIBERAL TO THE RANGE campaign.

We all know that the closest these anti 2nd liberals have come to a gun is the movies and that they never shot a firearm before in their lives or they wouldn't be so fearful and negative about them.

So make it a point to find an anti 2nd liberal in your work place, church, community or where ever and talk them into going to shoot with you sometime.

Use this as a chance to make it a positive experience for them and really go out of your way to make sure they are safe, learn some basics and enjoy it. One trip to slay some paper/melons/steel/soda bottles and see guns won't eat them - they will be addicted for life and you will have won another convert to our side. It's worth the $40-$50 in ammo. Hell, they might feel so empowered/thankful they will buy you dinner or some beer as a thank you.

Try it!
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people have short memories. The only good thing Bush did was let the 1994 assault weapon ban expire in late 2004

this list is pretty much the same exact thing.


before 2004 you could only have up to 10 rounds in a semi auto pistol, unless you dished out tons of money for a pre ban magazine..which were going for a few hundred dollars on the market.


if you have an AR15 or AK, it will be worth about 10 grand after AWB 2.0 passes

via executive order
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lol dam that list is big, I wonder how many jobs will be lost in the gun manufacturing industry\
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are there legal places to shoot guns for fun in the northeast? it would be cool to shoot a gun before the shtf
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Good luck on enforcing this.America will run red with the blood of the folks trying to take the guns.Americans will band together.Revolution 2.0

Remember......Shall not infringe.
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Lol

They have taken away due process and the right to be secure in your person. This means they can lay hands on you, detain you indefinitely without trial. Your rights are gone, what good did the gun do you?
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It's all tough guy shit talking. The majority will hand their guns in if TV says to. The minority who don't will be peer pressured or coerced by law enforcement. The remaining true zealots will fill America's vast prison system and 'beat the man' by giving him labor for pennies an hour, or else shoot it out with the pigs and end up having what few rights we have left taken away. Of course 20 years ago if you told people we were going to gut the 4th Amendment, pat you down to get on a plane, monitor your phone calls without a warrant they'd say "We'd never let that happen". Of course they did. And very few did shit.
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FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!
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Good luck on enforcing this.America will run red with the blood of the folks trying to take the guns.Americans will band together.Revolution 2.0

Remember......Shall not infringe.
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Yea .... just like the did in the 94 assault weapons ban . more like the sheep will bow to king obummer and turn their shit in lol
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Some will not.
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Yea .... just like the did in the 94 assault weapons ban . more like the sheep will bow to king obummer and turn their shit in lol
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I kids doubt it. Even normal non conspiracy tard people are really starting to feel that society might soon collapse. Economy,war,terrorism whatever. They feel very insecure. Hard to take from or get someone who feels this way to give up their weapons IMO. I don't think they will do it. I think it would probably bring violence across the country if they{govt} even tried. The world is different and less kind than it was in 94.
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I wonder if this will be a turn your weapons in ban ? As far as I know it just means you cant buy or sell any of these . but doesnt really say if you can own it if already in possession.
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We cant accept registration,ban,new laws,anything.The Gov has gone to far already.From my cold dead hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Imagine... Living in a world like THIS, and being told it is illegal to be able to defend yourself.

Anyone who would even SUGGEST something like that, is an enemy of mankind.
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Many have forgotten that: The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 – S 1867 — crafted in secret by Senators Carl Levin (D-MI) and John McCain (R-AZ) would declare the entire United States of America as a military battlefield, where individuals — American citizens and non-citizens alike — are subject to arrest and indefinite detention by the President without the right to step into a courtroom.

So by their own definition " Weapons of war " will not be on " the streets " but a " declared battlefield as of NDAA passage and the president signing into law DEC 31 2011 "

So you see even if they try to pass this an arguement can be made that The US is now a declared battlefield due to NDAA and are subject to having every weapon on that list .
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NEVER forget this:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
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Theoretically, this could result in the following chain of events:

1) An individual or group, prepared for this event, successfully meets the government agents attempting this treason with deadly force. An anti-Waco, if you will.

2) That group or one sympathetic to the cause, goes after the elected officials and their families who initiated the order, and is successful in neutralizing them.

3) A third similarly aligned group goes after the lower-level functionaries and voters who enabled the elected officials, neutralizing them in a very public display of asymmetric counter-force.

Just sayin'.
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4) A Nicolae Ceausescu rerun
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Theoretically, this could result in the following chain of events:

1) An individual or group, prepared for this event, successfully meets the government agents attempting this treason with deadly force. An anti-Waco, if you will.

2) That group or one sympathetic to the cause, goes after the elected officials and their families who initiated the order, and is successful in neutralizing them.

3) A third similarly aligned group goes after the lower-level functionaries and voters who enabled the elected officials, neutralizing them in a very public display of asymmetric counter-force.

4) The defeated sheep reluctantly turn in their arms under threat of death for them or their families.

Just sayin'.
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FIFY hf
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Then they would deserve whatever happens to them.
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the Scorpion and Uzi are not rifles....

1* for BS.
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Yea, like who has an AK-47 in their closet at home??? Come on people, the only weapons being banned are the SERIOUS ASSULT GUNS!!! COMMON SENSE!!!!


GROW UP!!!!

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Who has an AK-47 in their home?

Most of the people I know.
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the Scorpion and Uzi are not rifles....

1* for BS.
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Yea, like who has an AK-47 in their closet at home??? Come on people, the only weapons being banned are the SERIOUS ASSULT GUNS!!! COMMON SENSE!!!!


GROW UP!!!!

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Gun bans are like censorship, if you allow it where does it end?

The gun laws we have now are sufficient to protect the public. Anything more is an attempt to undermine the Second Amendment. Plain and simple.
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Very well said.

Simply enforce the EXISTING laws. Any ADDITIONAL laws are not only Constitutionally ILLEGAL, but nefarious in intent.
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The dems don't have the votes OP. It will never get through congress. The house is still in repubs hands. The senate has both repubs and a few dems beholden to the NRA. But that they would even want to push legislation like this is disturbing.
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doesn't mean he can't issue an executive order bypassing congress...he has signed dozens
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So what is the difference between that, and a full-blown dictatorship?

Isn't that what the founding father fought and died fighting against??
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I suggest we all take part of a campaign - my TAKE A LIBERAL TO THE RANGE campaign.

We all know that the closest these anti 2nd liberals have come to a gun is the movies and that they never shot a firearm before in their lives or they wouldn't be so fearful and negative about them.

So make it a point to find an anti 2nd liberal in your work place, church, community or where ever and talk them into going to shoot with you sometime.

Use this as a chance to make it a positive experience for them and really go out of your way to make sure they are safe, learn some basics and enjoy it. One trip to slay some paper/melons/steel/soda bottles and see guns won't eat them - they will be addicted for life and you will have won another convert to our side. It's worth the $40-$50 in ammo. Hell, they might feel so empowered/thankful they will buy you dinner or some beer as a thank you.

Try it!
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It would be more effective if you could get a liberal to study history for 15 minutes.
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Good luck on enforcing this.America will run red with the blood of the folks trying to take the guns.Americans will band together.Revolution 2.0

Remember......Shall not infringe.
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Your sadly mistaken. The will take your guns by storm door to door under the guise of safety. They have already done this (practice makes perfect) just after Katrina in the main media news stations it was showed to you. Right in your face the took peoples guns door to door. Notice how they are using the guise of your safety and others but they bang on doors with great authority and in force with guns drawn even aiming down the sights through the door after they beat on the door with great menace and authority then scope in for you. This is not a joke or a lie this actually happened after Katrina and they showed it on national television (ABC, NBC, FOX, CNN ect. ect.) HERE IS PROOF!!!



MORE PROOF!!!!



AGAIN MORE EVIDENCE!! THIS HAS ALREADY PASSED AND IS STILL BEING PASSED TO A GREATER EXTENT EACH DAY!! THEY WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS!! PERIOD!!

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Good luck on enforcing this.America will run red with the blood of the folks trying to take the guns.Americans will band together.Revolution 2.0

Remember......Shall not infringe.
 Quoting: From my cold dead hands 1549678


Your sadly mistaken. The will take your guns by storm door to door under the guise of safety. They have already done this (practice makes perfect) just after Katrina in the main media news stations it was showed to you. Right in your face the took peoples guns door to door. Notice how they are using the guise of your safety and others but they bang on doors with great authority and in force with guns drawn even aiming down the sights through the door after they beat on the door with great menace and authority then scope in for you. This is not a joke or a lie this actually happened after Katrina and they showed it on national television (ABC, NBC, FOX, CNN ect. ect.) HERE IS PROOF!!!



MORE PROOF!!!!



AGAIN MORE EVIDENCE!! THIS HAS ALREADY PASSED AND IS STILL BEING PASSED TO A GREATER EXTENT EACH DAY!! THEY WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS!! PERIOD!!


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quotes from last movie that are scary as hell!!

Doomsday prepers or prepers in general will be treated as terrorists!

Military personnel being fired by letters in large amounts!

Military personnel being treated as defectors if they don't follow orders against civilians!

Homeland Security ordering large amounts of ammunition, weapons, vehicles (the vehicles and weapons are colored black) Everyone knows that black weapons are standard civilian, urban issued weapons/vehicles War related weapons/vehicles for non civilian use if colored are camo of some type

This is not a joke at all!! They have already prepared for this against its own citizens.

Firing large amounts of military personnel. Lets see who would be fired first. How about american soldiers that would be considered prepers as well. Or defectors, the ones most likely not to carry out action against their own!

I think you get the point now, hopefully!
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the Scorpion and Uzi are not rifles....

1* for BS.
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Yea, like who has an AK-47 in their closet at home??? Come on people, the only weapons being banned are the SERIOUS ASSULT GUNS!!! COMMON SENSE!!!!


GROW UP!!!!

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The musket back in its day was the standard assault weapon of choice,it gave Americans the same edge as the British who wanted to rule over them.

Why did the constitution say what it did in regards to having firearms,they knew back then your government would try this shit.

i'll even say it,shall not be infringed,those words themselves cannot be negotiated,but in order to protect those words and rights you have too fight for them.

Your government has been turning up the heat very slowly for years and is now at the point where they dont give a fuck about what they do now.

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