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Why you CANNOT "do all things" through Christ as is written in Philippians 4:13. Is the verse wrong?

 
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Tl;dr

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Right?
 Quoting: Sneetch


here's the rest of it:

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.
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I can overcome the world because He overcame the world.

It's about being victorious in Christ.

1 John 5:4 "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith."

John 16:33 " “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
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I can overcome the world because He overcame the world.

It's about being victorious in Christ.

1 John 5:4 "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith."

John 16:33 " “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


May we all learn the ways that Jesus used to "overcome" and then apply them in our own lives.

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Tl;dr

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Right?
 Quoting: Sneetch


here's the rest of it:

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.
 Quoting: Salt


Ahh yes. Forgive me, thats the only part of it I remember off the top of my head. hf
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Tl;dr

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Right?
 Quoting: Sneetch


here's the rest of it:

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.
 Quoting: Salt


Ahh yes. Forgive me, thats the only part of it I remember off the top of my head. hf
 Quoting: Sneetch


yep the top part is the portion i have worked to memory. the rest i always have to look up. lol

hf
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Jesus has defeated death for us. He has defeated sin for us. He has defeated evil for us. He has provided life for us.

We can do all things through Him that we could not do on our own.

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Re: Why you CANNOT "do all things" through Christ as is written in Philippians 4:13. Is the verse wrong?
I can overcome the world because He overcame the world.

It's about being victorious in Christ.

1 John 5:4 "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith."

John 16:33 " “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


May we all learn the ways that Jesus used to "overcome" and then apply them in our own lives.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yep!

1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Re: Why you CANNOT "do all things" through Christ as is written in Philippians 4:13. Is the verse wrong?
I can overcome the world because He overcame the world.

It's about being victorious in Christ.

1 John 5:4 "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith."

John 16:33 " “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


May we all learn the ways that Jesus used to "overcome" and then apply them in our own lives.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yep!

1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


amen. but the victory might be the completion of enduring a hardship.
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I can overcome the world because He overcame the world.

It's about being victorious in Christ.

1 John 5:4 "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith."

John 16:33 " “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


May we all learn the ways that Jesus used to "overcome" and then apply them in our own lives.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yep!

1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


amen. but the victory might be the completion of enduring a hardship.
 Quoting: Salt


The victory is of the soul, not the body. We will face many hardships in the body.

Jesus told us this life would be hard, very hard for those of us who choose to follow Him.

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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I can overcome the world because He overcame the world.

It's about being victorious in Christ.

1 John 5:4 "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith."

John 16:33 " “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


May we all learn the ways that Jesus used to "overcome" and then apply them in our own lives.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yep!

1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


amen. but the victory might be the completion of enduring a hardship.
 Quoting: Salt


in other words, the hardship doesn't go anywhere, but through Christ we are strengthened to get thru it.
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May we all learn the ways that Jesus used to "overcome" and then apply them in our own lives.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yep!

1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


amen. but the victory might be the completion of enduring a hardship.
 Quoting: Salt


in other words, the hardship doesn't go anywhere, but through Christ we are strengthened to get thru it.
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, the Holy Spirit is our comforter and helper through the trials of this world.

hf

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

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Another outta-the-park home-run Salt.
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Another outta-the-park home-run Salt.
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thanks carshy
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Yep!

1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


amen. but the victory might be the completion of enduring a hardship.
 Quoting: Salt


in other words, the hardship doesn't go anywhere, but through Christ we are strengthened to get thru it.
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, the Holy Spirit is our comforter and helper through the trials of this world.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


^^AGREE^^

There is a lot of "ungrasping" involved along the way. And every time we let go, we exercise faith and rely on His strength and not our own.

About the hardest thing to ungrasp is our expectations of Him. As I put it on another thread, "Will we follow a God who does not live up to our expectations?"
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amen. but the victory might be the completion of enduring a hardship.
 Quoting: Salt


in other words, the hardship doesn't go anywhere, but through Christ we are strengthened to get thru it.
 Quoting: Salt


Yes, the Holy Spirit is our comforter and helper through the trials of this world.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


^^AGREE^^

There is a lot of "ungrasping" involved along the way. And every time we let go, we exercise faith and rely on His strength and not our own.

About the hardest thing to ungrasp is our expectations of Him. As I put it on another thread, "Will we follow a God who does not live up to our expectations?"
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yep!
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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i like where this thread is going

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I don't often share personal experiences on GLP, but I think I will make an exception in this case. I want to describe a "thing" I was able to "do" through the strength of Christ.

The economy has been rough, especially in my business area. About two years ago my group realized that there was not going to be enough money to pay everyone's salary, so the decision was made to lay off one or two people. After much thought and prayer, I offered to continue to work full time but to be paid for only part of it, if it would avoid having to lay off anyone.

This was not an easy decision, and everyone thought I was crazy. Especially my management! But they finally agreed, and no one has been laid off yet.

I would have never said so at the time, because I was operating on intuition, and perhaps hearing the soft whisper of the Holy Spirit, but it was the wisest decision I've made in a long time... for many, many reasons.

Christ strengthened my resolve and gave me the courage to make this leap of faith.
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I can do all things,.... Which must not be understood in the greatest latitude, and without any limitation; for the apostle was not omnipotent, either in himself, or by the power of Christ; nor could he do all things that Christ could do; but it must be restrained to the subject matter treated of: the sense is, that he could be content in every state, and could know how to behave himself in adversity and prosperity, amidst both poverty and plenty; yea, it may be extended to all the duties incumbent on him both as a Christian and as an apostle, as to exercise a conscience void of offence towards God and men; to take the care of all the churches; to labour more abundantly than others in preaching the Gospel; and to bear all afflictions, reproaches, and persecutions for the sake of it; yea, he could willingly and cheerfully endure the most cruel and torturing death for the sake of Christ: all these things he could do, not in his own strength, for no man was more conscious of his own weakness than he was, or knew more of the impotency of human nature; and therefore always directed others to be strong in the Lord, and in, the power of his might, and in the grace that is in Christ, on which he himself always depended, and by which he did what he did; as he adds here,

through Christ which strengtheneth me. The Vulgate Latin and Ethiopic versions leave out the word "Christ", and only read "him"; and so the Alexandrian copy and others; but intend Christ as those that express it: strength to perform duty and to bear sufferings is in Christ, and which he communicates to his people; he strengthens them with strength in their souls, internally, as the word here used signifies; by virtue of which they can do whatever he enjoins them or calls them to, though without him they can do nothing.
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I don't often share personal experiences on GLP, but I think I will make an exception in this case. I want to describe a "thing" I was able to "do" through the strength of Christ.

The economy has been rough, especially in my business area. About two years ago my group realized that there was not going to be enough money to pay everyone's salary, so the decision was made to lay off one or two people. After much thought and prayer, I offered to continue to work full time but to be paid for only part of it, if it would avoid having to lay off anyone.

This was not an easy decision, and everyone thought I was crazy. Especially my management! But they finally agreed, and no one has been laid off yet.

I would have never said so at the time, because I was operating on intuition, and perhaps hearing the soft whisper of the Holy Spirit, but it was the wisest decision I've made in a long time... for many, many reasons.

Christ strengthened my resolve and gave me the courage to make this leap of faith.
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wow, thanks for sharing that with the thread
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bump for a pulse
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bump for a pulse
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Bump again for a nice reflective thread on Thanksgiving Eve.
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thank you to the one responsible for the karma pin!
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thank you to the one responsible for the karma pin!
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and no, i didn't pin my own thread.
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Reflecting some more on the topic. Far from my "doing" anything to affect the outcome, it's more like a surrendering of the outcome to God. A by-product of faith. A faith that is a natural fruit of a close relationship.

I wish more could experience it.
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thanks for all the votes, y'all.


i hope everyone has a great holiday, and remember that we can get thru anything this world throws our way, if we harness the strength of God to bolster us thru.
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thanks for all the votes, y'all.


i hope everyone has a great holiday, and remember that we can get thru anything this world throws our way, if we harness the strength of God to bolster us thru.
 Quoting: Salt


Thanksgiving bump

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2 Corinthians 12:9 "But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

This scripture really encouraged me today. It is only when we truly give up ourselves and our will, then He steps in and His glory is manifested.

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2 Corinthians 12:9 "But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

This scripture really encouraged me today. It is only when we truly give up ourselves and our will, then He steps in and His glory is manifested.

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amen. thank you!!
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^THIS^^ is the most thankful thing of all.

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