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Serious question for atheists...please respond...

 
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Another dumb shit theist who thinks atheists are all bonded by something. All athiests have in common is a lack of theism. It is an ABSENCE of something. So there is no actual SOMETHING that we share. Atheists are everyone and anyone on this planet. Atheists are the default human state before any brainwashing is applied.

So anyone who starts a sentence with "Atheists think..." or even better "Atheists believe..." is just showing a stellar ignorance of a simple definition of a word. But then, ignorance is a vital part of a theist's lifestyle, so it's not surprising.
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Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question...
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


Who cares. Live your own life and stop judging. What is it again that your Bible says? Something about "judge not lest ye be judged"? Yeah, maybe you need to go re-read it?

Funny, it didn't take a Bible to teach some of us that, just good parenting... And that doesn't make me atheist. I'm agnostic. Everyone is free to believe what they want, in my opinion.

peace
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Working in the shipping industry, your holiday (we just call it peak) gives me a lot of work and money. Thanks.
 Quoting: krosty


Good for you krosty.

Nice to see someone benefiting from crazy Chrstmas... and politely appreciative as well!

pump2
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Sorry about the last post, I quoted the wrong poster, and my Android fucked all the text up. I would edit it but I'm too lazy, and or angry. I really can't believe we're in 2012 and people still believe in this Christian story, when they reject the origins of the story itself. It is beyond perplexing to me. I think some of us are seriously devolving, and those people feel the need to hold onto tradition because they have been scared into guilt and fear of hell and other religious scare tactics. I think if anyone here looks at where Christianity came from that it would take minutes to realise it is all bullshit. Ah... To feel like you exist in a world full of subhumans who still believe in fairy tales... The idea behind the op's thread here is to make atheists feel bad for celebrating Christmas when we don't believe in Christ. It's a pathetic attempt at proving they are smarter than the non believer. It's laughable. You do know that us atheists see Christians the way Christians see scientologists? Right? Did you know that the 25th is the birthday of Horus who was crucified between two thieves, and was resurrected on the third day? He was also the light bearer and the son of god.. there are cultures around the world that share the same story, that gave rise to your modern religion. Which would a sane person be more inclined to believe? The first the second, the third, the last? Think about it. Do your homework, man. This is like arguing to a rock. At least stop thinking of god as a person. Or as a persob in the sky. Because that, by logic, puts your iq at about a 55 and that's being fair. The evidence is there if you want to look with fresh eyes. Don't be scared! There is no hell, no heaven, and no evidence to support anything you claim... And all the evidence to support the fact that you are sadly wrong, or have been steered in the wrong direction. You can have your pagan holiday back, we don't want it. We just want you people to read the bible, because you can sit in church your whole life, but until you actually look from both sides, you'll always be wrong about everything not just religion. Our children are in brutal shape because of traditions, and laziness that has been engendered by parents like these, who refuse to encourage questioning, and instead promote the idea that the man that is an amalgamation of all religions is in fact going to take care of everything. The sad realization is that it's on you. Merry Mithra's birthday. Moron.
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Really? Christmas is more a social holiday than celebrating Christ.

Stupid Christian
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the concept of christmas and easter are nice and i do celebrate them but more in the spirit of giving to loved ones and celebrating the seasons of the earth. if your real about it the many of the christian holidays for the most part are taken from nature worshiping pagans and indoctrinated into christianity for attracting the "heathens" . bringing a tree inside your house is celebrating nature and the change of seasons. easter eggs is a symbol for birth/ re-birth the start of spring, the real meaning of christ is the sun, that is where the resurrection myth is from the rising and setting of the sun and winter(death) to spring(birth) while im atheist i hold nature and its archetypal symbols in high regard and important for the deep connection we all have to the earth. so yes i celebrate these holidays as an atheist just not the way christians do.
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Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question...
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


Who cares. Live your own life and stop judging. What is it again that your Bible says? Something about "judge not lest ye be judged"? Yeah, maybe you need to go re-read it?

Funny, it didn't take a Bible to teach some of us that, just good parenting... And that doesn't make me atheist. I'm agnostic. Everyone is free to believe what they want, in my opinion.

peace
 Quoting: TheDude99


what did Carlin say about the ten commandments? he called it a Marketing scheme , thats why they chose 10 and not 9 or 11. 10 sounds more official.
RIP George!
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Sorry about the last post, I quoted the wrong poster, and my Android fucked all the text up. I would edit it but I'm too lazy, and or angry. I really can't believe we're in 2012 and people still believe in this Christian story, when they reject the origins of the story itself. It is beyond perplexing to me. I think some of us are seriously devolving, and those people feel the need to hold onto tradition because they have been scared into guilt and fear of hell and other religious scare tactics. I think if anyone here looks at where Christianity came from that it would take minutes to realise it is all bullshit. Ah... To feel like you exist in a world full of subhumans who still believe in fairy tales... The idea behind the op's thread here is to make atheists feel bad for celebrating Christmas when we don't believe in Christ. It's a pathetic attempt at proving they are smarter than the non believer. It's laughable. You do know that us atheists see Christians the way Christians see scientologists? Right? Did you know that the 25th is the birthday of Horus who was crucified between two thieves, and was resurrected on the third day? He was also the light bearer and the son of god.. there are cultures around the world that share the same story, that gave rise to your modern religion. Which would a sane person be more inclined to believe? The first the second, the third, the last? Think about it. Do your homework, man. This is like arguing to a rock. At least stop thinking of god as a person. Or as a persob in the sky. Because that, by logic, puts your iq at about a 55 and that's being fair. The evidence is there if you want to look with fresh eyes. Don't be scared! There is no hell, no heaven, and no evidence to support anything you claim... And all the evidence to support the fact that you are sadly wrong, or have been steered in the wrong direction. You can have your pagan holiday back, we don't want it. We just want you people to read the bible, because you can sit in church your whole life, but until you actually look from both sides, you'll always be wrong about everything not just religion. Our children are in brutal shape because of traditions, and laziness that has been engendered by parents like these, who refuse to encourage questioning, and instead promote the idea that the man that is an amalgamation of all religions is in fact going to take care of everything. The sad realization is that it's on you. Merry Mithra's birthday. Moron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3063163

tru dat holmes!
also - you typed that whole thing in a cell phone?! you go girl!
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I don't celebrate any festivity, I think it's all bullshit, and I don't believe in religion.
Holocaust denier white secretly urban negro.
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I celebrate it as a kind of family day, I still respect it's origins btw - I went to a C of E school. My beliefs have changed as I have gotten older.


May I also add that I get very irritated when it's reffered to as a holiday season, it's bloody Christmas. Contradictory with my beliefs perhaps but it's significance to Christians and family should still be the focus, not just consumerism.

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

~Epicurus 33 A.D
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Here is some math on the bible!

"We must seriously consider the evidence, as eternity hangs in the balance. ......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16344097


There's only evidence of madness in that "evidence"....

Surely there are thousands of translations that all have different wordcounts. And most likely this idiocy is based on an English bible and not Aramaic.
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So you dont say "merry christmas" or anything... You say Happy Winter Solstice heres some presents? Why even give presents for winter solstice, whats the reason behind it?
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


the reason is the tree and what grows beneath it :) thats why u put them under a tree ,the presents that is :)
 Quoting: nocty


What is red and white with spots all over it?
Faire et se taire
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Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question...
 Quoting: LoneSurviver



yes, but then it's a pagan holiday anyway that the Christians co opted (like many pagan things)
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Another dumb shit theist who thinks atheists are all bonded by something. All athiests have in common is a lack of theism. It is an ABSENCE of something. So there is no actual SOMETHING that we share. Atheists are everyone and anyone on this planet. Atheists are the default human state before any brainwashing is applied.

So anyone who starts a sentence with "Atheists think..." or even better "Atheists believe..." is just showing a stellar ignorance of a simple definition of a word. But then, ignorance is a vital part of a theist's lifestyle, so it's not surprising.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Another dumb shit theist who thinks atheists are all bonded by something. All athiests have in common is a lack of theism. It is an ABSENCE of something. So there is no actual SOMETHING that we share. Atheists are everyone and anyone on this planet. Atheists are the default human state before any brainwashing is applied.

So anyone who starts a sentence with "Atheists think..." or even better "Atheists believe..." is just showing a stellar ignorance of a simple definition of a word. But then, ignorance is a vital part of a theist's lifestyle, so it's not surprising.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Excatly right (although no need to attack the guy) We atheists believe nothing. That's not to say god doesn't exist, it's just our default stance is to believe nothing. This way we always have open minds to all things. Atheists who rip on religious people are just the atheist equivalent of fundamental religious people, ignore them and live your life how you want to live it.
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The xmas with presents has nothing tot do with jesus. Its a coca cola festival
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as an atheist, its about appreciating your family and other good fortune in general. time off from the rat race

and prezzies, and food!
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all atheists are interested in astronomy
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I sure as fuck do! Hell, all my crazy ass christian friends buy me free shit, dish out food and booze and have a great time!
I'm in retail and they buy 10 times the usual and I pocket the cash.
Thank ya Jeeeeesus!
And happy fucking brithday!!!!
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Christmas is not even christian its a PAGAN TREE WORSHIP holiday.
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There is no God, there never was and never will be!

But I still celebrate Christmas with all my heart.

Why?

Any man walking around and telling everyone to “play nicely” and stop the hate deserves to be remembered.

Was Jesus the son of God?

I don’t know and I don’t care to be honest.

But he set some moral standards I try to adhere to. tomato
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all atheists are interested in astronomy
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Um, I don't think that's true, but what relevance does that have? o.o Though I'm not the exception to this rule, been reading Carl Sagan's Cosmos lately, find it to be quite interesting, though how that has anything to do with Atheists celebrating Christmas I haven't a clue.

On topic, Christmas was originally a pagan holiday (that you Christians would kill each other over celebrating) Later adopted by Christians, and then later by big business in an effort to make money. I celebrate it because it's fun and I get free shit, the way corporations like. I follow the new meaning of Christmas.
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I buy presents for my kids and my wife. Other than that, sorry I'm pulling the atheist card on you.
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Well it does seem hypocritical...you proclaim your lack of belief in God, but celebrate a proclaimed religious holiday? Doesnt make sense, why celebrate it based on a Christian tradition you dont believe in?
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


A holiday isn't necessarily religious. Like I celebrate Veterans Day but never served, or Memorial Day but haven't lost a family member. Breast cancer month but no breasts. you get the idea.

There is a form and function, and they need not interrelate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549

I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka.
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


that's fine. Most religious people don't listen to logic. If they did they'd be agnostic or atheist,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549



both Christians and Atheists are in for quite a surprise!
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No point trying to make a christian see sense its not going to happen. If people are happy beliving in unicorns wheres the hatm so long as i dont have to have it forced on me i belive live and let live.
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christians against athiests is an impossible battle. you're both arguing things you can't prove to each other. you both believe in things you can't prove. modern athiests have replaced god with science, forgetting that science is merely a methodology and does not provide proof or answers of the origins of all things, or consciousness. they regularly cite theories as facts and laugh at anyone who doesn't agree with the theory of the day. they forget that science re-writes everything it knows constantly. what is "truth" today is proven completely false another decade. athiests have faith that there is no spirit and no supreme being, christians, muslims, etc have faith in a supreme god that rules all. nobody will convince anyone of anything until humans are once again allowed to have access in their life to the real truth, first hand. in these dark times, only the occasional few stumble into the real answer.
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Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question...
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


You try to pick holes in something that isnt even there, it was Chrisyuian that hijacked the xmas holiday in the first place. Neither the Bible nor the early Church fathers
mentioned the date of Jesus' birth.

Read this and learn, do us so called Atheists always have to teach you your own Religion.

[link to www.ucg.org]
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No point trying to make a christian see sense its not going to happen. If people are happy beliving in unicorns wheres the hatm so long as i dont have to have it forced on me i belive live and let live.
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Another dumb shit theist who thinks atheists are all bonded by something. All athiests have in common is a lack of theism. It is an ABSENCE of something. So there is no actual SOMETHING that we share. Atheists are everyone and anyone on this planet. Atheists are the default human state before any brainwashing is applied.

So anyone who starts a sentence with "Atheists think..." or even better "Atheists believe..." is just showing a stellar ignorance of a simple definition of a word. But then, ignorance is a vital part of a theist's lifestyle, so it's not surprising.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


This.
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Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question...
 Quoting: LoneSurviver


You call it Christmas... We call it "winter solstice."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2506416


That would be pagan, not atheist............
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1. The pagan yuletide celebrations predate Christmas and Christmas was woven into the yuletide celebrations by clever insidious marketing. Most countries have different days for Christmas because they had different yuletide celebrations.

2. Modern Christmas has lost all religious meaning to most people because it has been marketed to death and is just another "special" time of year to convince people to spend money on crap.

3. Religionists think they are more logical than atheists. Classic.

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