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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25994549 United States 11/20/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question... Quoting: LoneSurviver You call it Christmas... We call it "winter solstice." Yes. I celebrate halloween also - not because I feel evil spirits need chasing, but in observation of the tradition. One need not believe in the basis of something to celebrate it. Hipocracy isn't a problem unless you want to stand on a soapbox. |
Debauchery User ID: 15455863 United States 11/20/2012 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see what you did there. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question... Quoting: LoneSurviver You call it Christmas... We call it "winter solstice." Yes. I celebrate halloween also - not because I feel evil spirits need chasing, but in observation of the tradition. One need not believe in the basis of something to celebrate it. Hipocracy isn't a problem unless you want to stand on a soapbox. Well it does seem hypocritical...you proclaim your lack of belief in God, but celebrate a proclaimed religious holiday? Doesnt make sense, why celebrate it based on a Christian tradition you dont believe in? Last Edited by LoneSurviver on 11/20/2012 10:45 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28099882 Canada 11/20/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do you say OP? am I an atheist? agnostic? Sumerian? Mayan? |
LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question... Quoting: LoneSurviver i throw burning swastikas through my relations abodes and crucify my boss on an inverted crucifix I like you...you march to the beat of your own drum... |
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LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if I believe in a higher being- essentially all of them but little of what the lower ignorant people call an interpretation of "them" - does that make me an agnostic? I don't like following what stupid people from hundreds of years ago have to say about those from above...I also hate the "new wave" fruitcakes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28099882 what do you say OP? am I an atheist? agnostic? Sumerian? Mayan? Not my place to say. Only you can make the choice of what religion if any to follow. Last Edited by LoneSurviver on 11/20/2012 10:49 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25994549 United States 11/20/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question... Quoting: LoneSurviver You call it Christmas... We call it "winter solstice." Yes. I celebrate halloween also - not because I feel evil spirits need chasing, but in observation of the tradition. One need not believe in the basis of something to celebrate it. Hipocracy isn't a problem unless you want to stand on a soapbox. Well it does seem hypocritical...you proclaim your lack of belief in God, but celebrate a proclaimed religious holiday? Doesnt make sense, why celebrate it based on a Christian tradition you dont believe in? A holiday isn't necessarily religious. Like I celebrate Veterans Day but never served, or Memorial Day but haven't lost a family member. Breast cancer month but no breasts. you get the idea. There is a form and function, and they need not interrelate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25994549 United States 11/20/2012 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if I believe in a higher being- essentially all of them but little of what the lower ignorant people call an interpretation of "them" - does that make me an agnostic? I don't like following what stupid people from hundreds of years ago have to say about those from above...I also hate the "new wave" fruitcakes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28099882 what do you say OP? am I an atheist? agnostic? Sumerian? Mayan? Agnostic is knowing you don't know and being ok with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24912685 United States 11/20/2012 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you dont say "merry christmas" or anything... You say Happy Winter Solstice heres some presents? Why even give presents for winter solstice, whats the reason behind it? Quoting: LoneSurviver See the whole thing with Christmas trees, gifts etc. all began with pagan traditions, not Christian ones. And to answer your question I say Merry Christmas to Christians, Happy Hanukkah to Jews and Happy Holidays if I am unsure of a person's chosen religion. |
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LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. I celebrate halloween also - not because I feel evil spirits need chasing, but in observation of the tradition. One need not believe in the basis of something to celebrate it. Hipocracy isn't a problem unless you want to stand on a soapbox. Well it does seem hypocritical...you proclaim your lack of belief in God, but celebrate a proclaimed religious holiday? Doesnt make sense, why celebrate it based on a Christian tradition you dont believe in? A holiday isn't necessarily religious. Like I celebrate Veterans Day but never served, or Memorial Day but haven't lost a family member. Breast cancer month but no breasts. you get the idea. There is a form and function, and they need not interrelate. I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25994549 United States 11/20/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549 Yes. I celebrate halloween also - not because I feel evil spirits need chasing, but in observation of the tradition. One need not believe in the basis of something to celebrate it. Hipocracy isn't a problem unless you want to stand on a soapbox. Well it does seem hypocritical...you proclaim your lack of belief in God, but celebrate a proclaimed religious holiday? Doesnt make sense, why celebrate it based on a Christian tradition you dont believe in? A holiday isn't necessarily religious. Like I celebrate Veterans Day but never served, or Memorial Day but haven't lost a family member. Breast cancer month but no breasts. you get the idea. There is a form and function, and they need not interrelate. I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka. that's fine. Most religious people don't listen to logic. If they did they'd be agnostic or atheist, |
LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you dont say "merry christmas" or anything... You say Happy Winter Solstice heres some presents? Why even give presents for winter solstice, whats the reason behind it? Quoting: LoneSurviver See the whole thing with Christmas trees, gifts etc. all began with pagan traditions, not Christian ones. And to answer your question I say Merry Christmas to Christians, Happy Hanukkah to Jews and Happy Holidays if I am unsure of a person's chosen religion. Thank you, that seems reasonable. |
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LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: LoneSurviver Well it does seem hypocritical...you proclaim your lack of belief in God, but celebrate a proclaimed religious holiday? Doesnt make sense, why celebrate it based on a Christian tradition you dont believe in? A holiday isn't necessarily religious. Like I celebrate Veterans Day but never served, or Memorial Day but haven't lost a family member. Breast cancer month but no breasts. you get the idea. There is a form and function, and they need not interrelate. I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka. that's fine. Most religious people don't listen to logic. If they did they'd be agnostic or atheist, If agnostic or atheists were logical they wouldnt celebrate religious holidays... |
Lemon User ID: 5766356 United States 11/20/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agnostic here - & yes - I never miss a good party. Christmas gifts, a Yule log, a pagan tree, Pagan eggs at Easter. (red ones, & we crash them to see who's toughest). Solstice celebration. Hanuka, passover, St. Patricks day (for Celtic Genocide), & of course Halloween. **I'm all out of bubblegum |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25994549 United States 11/20/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549 A holiday isn't necessarily religious. Like I celebrate Veterans Day but never served, or Memorial Day but haven't lost a family member. Breast cancer month but no breasts. you get the idea. There is a form and function, and they need not interrelate. I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka. that's fine. Most religious people don't listen to logic. If they did they'd be agnostic or atheist, If agnostic or atheists were logical they wouldnt celebrate religious holidays... By that reasoning non-blacks wouldn't celebrate black history month or readers literacy week. I'm comfortable with dualism. And atheist. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28184631 United States 11/20/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you think christmas, Dec. 25, is really "the birth of Jesus" and not a lie to keep pagans from celebrating the winter solstice, like they had done for at least 1000 years before there were any christians? and then I want to know what you think of easter. totally serious question... |
LoneSurviver (OP) User ID: 21581512 United States 11/20/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: LoneSurviver I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka. that's fine. Most religious people don't listen to logic. If they did they'd be agnostic or atheist, If agnostic or atheists were logical they wouldnt celebrate religious holidays... By that reasoning non-blacks wouldn't celebrate black history month or readers literacy week. I'm comfortable with dualism. And atheist. :) ... Quoting: LoneSurviver I disagree. Christmas is a christian holiday. Veterans day is a day to honor veterans, a group we hold in a very high honor (or should anyway), ect. I think your comparison doesnt really hold well. Im not jewish, so i dont celebrate Hanukka. that's fine. Most religious people don't listen to logic. If they did they'd be agnostic or atheist, If agnostic or atheists were logical they wouldnt celebrate religious holidays... By that reasoning non-blacks wouldn't celebrate black history month or readers literacy week. I'm comfortable with dualism. And atheist. :) I dont celebrate black history month. I also dont celebrate white history month...oh wait, thats right...we dont get one.. Last Edited by LoneSurviver on 11/20/2012 11:06 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26532270 Australia 11/20/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you buy Christmas presents for your loved ones? Take off from work on Christian holidays? Totally serious question... Quoting: LoneSurviver I wouldn't say I'm an atheist, but I don't have a religion so I can answer your question. Yes! Christmas is a holiday for all in my opinion. What has santa got to do with Jesus? What does the easter bunner have to do with Jesus dieing? Christmas is my favourite time of year, I get to see my kids smile and laugh and give them cool toys. I get to chill out with my family and eat yummy food. To me Christmas is about giving and enjoying your family, nothing else. |