The craziest part about this whole thread is the fact that if a person wants to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, they go about it in a way I think would disappoint him. If Jesus were here today, he'd tell Christians to sell all their shiny new toys....as a matter of fact he'd much prefer no one spend any money on buying each other pointless, wasteful gifts and decorating trees. A person that truly followed the teachings of Jesus would spend all their money helping people who are suffering. Ya know, like the people that are starving or sick. A true follower would not spend their Christmas vacation with shopping, wrapping gifts and stuffing their fat faces but instead by volunteering at shelters, hospitals, etc. So please someone tell me how "Christmas" in anyway shows any reverence to the one it was named after. Oh and attending a couple of extra church services and watching kid's pick their noses on stage in shepard costumes doesn't count.