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I have a question for people who think the universe is billions of years old... | |
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Borian  User ID: 1139038 United States11/21/2012 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Science believes space and time are the same thing. They call it "spacetime". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935 They also believe that it takes some starlight billions of years to reach earth...therefore the universe is very old... BUT If the big bang emerged from a singularity... and created both spacetime and matter... Then how can you measure "Age"? Since space/time itself is expanding, then the very thing you are measuring time against is changing over...time? How does that work? If i traced one lightsecond on a piece of silly putty and then streatched out the sillyputty further...then I have no clue what and actual lightsecond is because I have nothing else to compare it to. I don't know how fast or slow the silly putty is streatching...or weather it is increasing or decreasing in speed because the standard of speed itself is measured against the changing sillyputty. Think about it...Distance is measured in the amount of spacetime that light can travel in a year (A lightyear)...But time itself is measured in the very distance of space (spacetime)...which is changing at a certain rate of "time"! It's a circular argument! Time is relative. - Einstein |
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| Borian User ID: 1139038 United States11/21/2012 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't as snarky as it sounds. If you stretch time/space you will stretch those around you. Their relative speed will change depending on the silly putty. Those outside the silly putty will see times passing as normal. Thus relative. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25701329  Romania11/21/2012 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It's a circular argument!" Indeed, that's why so many intelligent ppl disproved the "Big Bang Theory". ( [link to www.bibhasde.com] ) Einstein was wrong with his "relativity" and because of him, the modern "science" is in impasse. Because of him we "believe" we cannot go to the stars (therefore we wont even try it!). After the WW2, The US Army payed/forced Einstein & Lorentz to generate a new BS theory that will leave the the rest of the world/competition in dust so they could remain THE ONLY ones to follow the good path - Testla's aether (in 1900 all the great minds believed in aether). In science, like in the social life, we need a revolution. Einstein was not the greatest mind. He was the biggest destroyer. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 610727 Australia11/21/2012 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It's a circular argument!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25701329 Indeed, that's why so many intelligent ppl disproved the "Big Bang Theory". ( [link to www.bibhasde.com] ) Einstein was wrong with his "relativity" and because of him, the modern "science" is in impasse. Because of him we "believe" we cannot go to the stars (therefore we wont even try it!). After the WW2, The US Army payed/forced Einstein & Lorentz to generate a new BS theory that will leave the the rest of the world/competition in dust so they could remain THE ONLY ones to follow the good path - Testla's aether (in 1900 all the great minds believed in aether). In science, like in the social life, we need a revolution. Einstein was not the greatest mind. He was the biggest destroyer. 1000% agree. Although I don't blame Einstein so much. It's his stupid blind followers that are the real problem. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27467395 United States11/21/2012 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya, they don't have a clue how old it is. We haven't left our solar system, yet we preach about the truths of the universe. Trust me, they are just the new batch of religious zealots. The universe is out side the thinking range of mankind, they are just to stupid and stubborn to admit it. Hell, there's still more than 25% of the planet we haven't foot surveyed, but they know everything about space... Caution when people claim to know absolute truths that they have no way of confirming. |
| - User ID: 14012564 United States11/21/2012 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Starlight has a speed that does seem like it took many light years to travel the very large universe. Aside this known fact the rest is all theory. We were not there to see the starlight form. The Bible says God created it all the 4th day just 6000 years ago. Adam and Eve, trees and everything were created fully grown. And there are observations that date the universe. Starlight being created as it is cannot be used to date anything. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13718874 Netherlands11/21/2012 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Science believes space and time are the same thing. They call it "spacetime". They also believe that it takes some starlight billions of years to reach earth...therefore the universe is very old... BUT If the big bang emerged from a singularity... and created both spacetime and matter... Then how can you measure "Age"? Since space/time itself is expanding, then the very thing you are measuring time against is changing over...time? How does that work?" me..i think that 'we' just go tru separating our self-awarness from the dream 'we''ve been into only 'now' seeing it a bit uninvolved in2 while it goes foggy all the way up..up..and wavely around .. evolving and widening and..till vanish from the 'eye' and our-i-self is back on 2 the other side from it into the body tru the fading into black or maybe just awakening seeng of different light and ..hearing sense resumes about a dream one -- lucian and terrence here [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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