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Crucifixion is most unGodly & barbaric symbolism for a religion

 
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Answer me one thing...

Lets just for a minute say God is real. Therefore, by definition, he is responsible for EVERYTHING.

Absolutely everything is down to him. He controls all, sees all, hears all...

Whats he doing now. At this very moment. Is he watching me type this? Or is he over in Africa giving Aids to innocent babies..?

Is he watching the new James Bond movie, or watching women getting stoned to death in the middle east for trying to educate themselves?

Is he handing out food to starving families, or handing out cancerous tumours to kind and innocent people who have never hurt another human being..?

What a horrible, and cruel bastard he must be.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


You say "Lets just for a minute say God is real. Therefore, by definition, he is responsible for EVERYTHING."

No.......you think the Lord God said drop the H-bomb now?

Yikes man.

Their Ways are not our ways, your freewill and mankind's freewill is just that free will.

Things go great on earth, mankind pats himself on the back for another well done job, but when things hit the skids like the BP oil spill and FUKUSHIMA mankind shakes a fist at God and says; How could you God do this devastating thing to us?
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Humans have made this planet a sh.. hole full of suffering

without humans it would be paradise and there would be peace

no more wars

no more contamination

the planet would no longer be under threat unless through an act of God

nature could regenerate

the animals would be out of their torment

harmony would be restored

hbumans are the curse that is turning this planet into hell

they cant find peace and they take peace away from all that is good

then they turn around and tell God what to do or blame Him for the mess and suffering they ahve created and are doing to each other

the bioble says the meek will inherit the earth

how many truly meek people do you know

my point..precisely..

I think

THERE WILL BE NO HUMANS ON THIS PLANET WHEN PARADISE IS RE INSTALLED
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you will know well before 4 years.
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Don't you ever get tired of spouting shite?

Time after time predictions come and go... doom this, doom that... end of the world... jesus will return... etc etc etc.

Give it a fucking rest, will you..?

I live my life with morals. Don't need some 2,000 year old book to tell me what to do. I know right from wrong, and don't try and impose my views on others. I don't stand on street corners waving signs threatening pain and torture on others if they dont do what i want them to do, or see the world how i want them to see the world. But, if i see bullshit, i call it bullshit.

Do me a favour - Do a little research about where these stories came from, instead of just believing what people told you in their church. Don't you feel embarrased to tell people you HONESTLY BELIEVE the stories about some geezer walking on water? Parting seas with a wave of the hand? Stories about feeding 5,000 people with 2 fish and 5 loaves... Stories about people being healed of incurable diseases...

...and maybe then you'll realise the bible should be moved to the "Fiction" section of your bookshelf.
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you will all be no more! In my opinion

DEAL WITH IT

there will no more humans here

I think>iT WILL BE AN ANGELIC REALM..AND THE ONES THAT WILL BE CHOSEN AMONGST YOU WILL BECOME aNGELS..THATS WHAT IT MEANS CHANGED AND SEALED..
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you will know well before 4 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Don't you ever get tired of spouting shite?

Time after time predictions come and go... doom this, doom that... end of the world... jesus will return... etc etc etc.

Give it a fucking rest, will you..?

I live my life with morals. Don't need some 2,000 year old book to tell me what to do. I know right from wrong, and don't try and impose my views on others. I don't stand on street corners waving signs threatening pain and torture on others if they dont do what i want them to do, or see the world how i want them to see the world. But, if i see bullshit, i call it bullshit.

Do me a favour - Do a little research about where these stories came from, instead of just believing what people told you in their church. Don't you feel embarrased to tell people you HONESTLY BELIEVE the stories about some geezer walking on water? Parting seas with a wave of the hand? Stories about feeding 5,000 people with 2 fish and 5 loaves... Stories about people being healed of incurable diseases...

...and maybe then you'll realise the bible should be moved to the "Fiction" section of your bookshelf.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend

tell me when and where did i give other predictions that failed?
Here is a sign for you.When you see a tsunami hit sydney australia KNOW then that soon you get to burn in hell for eternity.
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Things go great on earth, mankind pats himself on the back for another well done job, but when things hit the skids like the BP oil spill and FUKUSHIMA mankind shakes a fist at God and says; How could you God do this devastating thing to us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You know what? You can turn that right on its head. Things go wrong, and it's mankinds fault, as we have free will.

Things go well, and it's all "Thank God!" "Praise the Lord!"...

It's ridiculous.
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Learn the true deeper meaning of the symbolism
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The problem is without an open mind, their eyes are closed.
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you can spend eternity somewhere else telling eachother how wrong you are, how god loves you and not them, how you will fight and destroy if contradicted, you can spend eternity trashing wherever you are, treating eachother like dirt, not loving but fucking, contaminating, using, destroying, hating, lieing, cheating, plundering, stealing,lusting , searching for more vices, waging wars. how this belongs to you and you wont share, how what your neighbors things belong to you too

etc..etc..etc..
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and you can recite and memorize words all the time you do this
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I'm a believer in Christ, and I agree with the OP..

If your mother was gruesomely killed with an axe, would you wear an axe around your neck, to honor her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28173621

You are a JW so are not a Christian.the Cross is a symbol of LIFE not death and is the ANCIENT HEBREW PICTOGRAM symbol for COVENANT!
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I'm a JW?

LOL!!!

If you only had ANY idea how many times I've exposed JW's as being the cult that they are, you'd feel like a monumental moron, Aussie.
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tell me when and where did i give other predictions that failed?
Here is a sign for you.When you see a tsunami hit sydney australia KNOW then that soon you get to burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


There's predictions on here on a daily basis. Every day, doom is predicted.

...and if you throw enough darts, eventually one of the fuckers will hit the bullseye...

So - when are you "predicting" the tsunami will hit sydney then..? Some time in the next 50-100 years, maybe..?

...for fucks sake...

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The elite controlled the world 2000yrs ago as they try to now, and so they manipulated things that threaten their power.

And by using a symbol of a dead or dying man crucified on a cross was deliberately used as a symbol for Jesus, in order to make people afraid of God, and to also be afraid to follow Jesus' True teaching.


Jesus' true teaching was also manipulated and much of it even omitted.

Especially his teaching on REINCARNATION and KARMA, which was REMOVED from the New Testament by the orders of Roman emperor Justinian's wife. (check it out yourselves)

She had been a cruel person and hurt many people, and she did not want karma and reincarnation to be true, so that she would have to have many lives in which she would have to also experience the same degree of pain and misery she had put many other people through.

THAT'S HOW KARMA WORKS, AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO REINCARNATE OVER AND OVER.

And she actually thought that by removing it from Jesus' teaching in the New Testament it would make it no longer true.
Is that arrogance or what?

Actually it seems kind of childish to believe that any of God's laws can be erased just because we don't want to believe in them.

Anyway there is a lot to learn if you are ready for it, and you can find it here:

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]

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and reminding eachother how very very speacial you are.
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I'm a believer in Christ, and I agree with the OP..

If your mother was gruesomely killed with an axe, would you wear an axe around your neck, to honor her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28173621

You are a JW so are not a Christian.the Cross is a symbol of LIFE not death and is the ANCIENT HEBREW PICTOGRAM symbol for COVENANT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


I'm a JW?

LOL!!!

If you only had ANY idea how many times I've exposed JW's as being the cult that they are, you'd feel like a monumental moron, Aussie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28173621

then dont repeat their nonsense.
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and reminding eachother how very very speacial you are.
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...some people are a little more "special" than others, eh Aussie 13813766..?
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tell me when and where did i give other predictions that failed?
Here is a sign for you.When you see a tsunami hit sydney australia KNOW then that soon you get to burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


There's predictions on here on a daily basis. Every day, doom is predicted.

...and if you throw enough darts, eventually one of the fuckers will hit the bullseye...

So - when are you "predicting" the tsunami will hit sydney then..? Some time in the next 50-100 years, maybe..?

...for fucks sake...
 Quoting: GeordieLegend

People like u know it all.U dont know me.U dont know anything about me.u claim u need proof.I saw Him.Is that enough proof?no to you that means I am mad.SOON!Just wait for the tsunami.
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and reminding eachother how very very speacial you are.
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...some people are a little more "special" than others, eh Aussie 13813766..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend

Just wait until the tsunami hits sydney.Wont be long.
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1 Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Alot of things that are spiritual to a normal person it makes no sense. However when a person Comes Jesus and asks for forgiveness of sins and accepts Jesus Christ as their savior you receive the gift of salvation as well as his spirit dwelling within you. When this happens things that you normally would think they are foolishness all of a sudden they are not anymore. It's Supernatural, Spiritual, nothing to do religious ideolgy. It's an experience, It's tangible not just empty words. It's a relationship not dogma or reliogios views. It's a relationship with your father and you being his child.
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So what, exactly do you want me to say? That God, Jesus, The Holy Spirit is all complete and utter bullshit, made up to put fear and control into weak minded people..?

Do as we say, or burn in hell!

Don't do what you want to do, or burn in hell!

Come to our house every sunday and give us your money, or burn in hell!

Let us fuck your choir boy children up the arse after plying them with communion wine or you'll all burn in hell!!

...fucking idiots...

If there is a hell below, you fuckers will be the first ones in there... Save me a fucking seat.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend

Yep just sealed your fate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Well thank fuck for that. I'm now free to do what the fuck i want, when i want. No more FEAR, eh..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


My advice is do all the things you want.because very soon you will burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


In terms of cruelty, meanness of spirit, distributing fear and curses to people who don't believe the same stuff you believe, you qualify fore than any other poster in this thread for a front seat in Hell. Everyone else is expressing opinions, you are cruelly attacking.

Thankfully Hell does not exist, Jesus Christ is all made up too, and God is the biggest load of bullshit that ever was created. So, even though you deserve to, you are not going to hell, but you are one mean-spirited retard.
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and reminding eachother how very very speacial you are.
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...some people are a little more "special" than others, eh Aussie 13813766..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend

Just wait until the tsunami hits sydney.Wont be long.
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Well, i hope you're in Sydney when it hits. Maybe you'll "See" your mate Jesus for a reunion...

...and then again, maybe not.

There's only one way to find out.
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Yep just sealed your fate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Well thank fuck for that. I'm now free to do what the fuck i want, when i want. No more FEAR, eh..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


My advice is do all the things you want.because very soon you will burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


In terms of cruelty, meanness of spirit, distributing fear and curses to people who don't believe the same stuff you believe, you qualify fore than any other poster in this thread for a front seat in Hell. Everyone else is expressing opinions, you are cruelly attacking.

Thankfully Hell does not exist, Jesus Christ is all made up too, and God is the biggest load of bullshit that ever was created. So, even though you deserve to, you are not going to hell, but you are one mean-spirited retard.
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^^
What this guy said. Thank you for stepping in and backing up the side of Truth, against the side of Deceit.
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Things go great on earth, mankind pats himself on the back for another well done job, but when things hit the skids like the BP oil spill and FUKUSHIMA mankind shakes a fist at God and says; How could you God do this devastating thing to us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You know what? You can turn that right on its head. Things go wrong, and it's mankinds fault, as we have free will.

Things go well, and it's all "Thank God!" "Praise the Lord!"...

It's ridiculous.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


You know what, you just did turn it around as mankind does just in a little different form.

Do you really know who it is that puts food on your table and money in your pocket? You are not part of the answer.
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Yep just sealed your fate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Well thank fuck for that. I'm now free to do what the fuck i want, when i want. No more FEAR, eh..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


My advice is do all the things you want.because very soon you will burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


In terms of cruelty, meanness of spirit, distributing fear and curses to people who don't believe the same stuff you believe, you qualify fore than any other poster in this thread for a front seat in Hell. Everyone else is expressing opinions, you are cruelly attacking.

Thankfully Hell does not exist, Jesus Christ is all made up too, and God is the biggest load of bullshit that ever was created. So, even though you deserve to, you are not going to hell, but you are one mean-spirited retard.
 Quoting: Pragmatic skeptic 28197919


But you dont believe in hell.And if you accept that i do,and that i have read and understand the Bible including the coded parts and that I have seen the Most High,then you ought to know that what you said is plain wrong.
The Holy Bible says CLEARLY to avoid antichrists like you.It also states CLEARLY that people like you and the other WILL burn in hell.hell was created for angels but you insist in going there.
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Things go great on earth, mankind pats himself on the back for another well done job, but when things hit the skids like the BP oil spill and FUKUSHIMA mankind shakes a fist at God and says; How could you God do this devastating thing to us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You know what? You can turn that right on its head. Things go wrong, and it's mankinds fault, as we have free will.

Things go well, and it's all "Thank God!" "Praise the Lord!"...

It's ridiculous.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


SX1
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Well thank fuck for that. I'm now free to do what the fuck i want, when i want. No more FEAR, eh..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


My advice is do all the things you want.because very soon you will burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


In terms of cruelty, meanness of spirit, distributing fear and curses to people who don't believe the same stuff you believe, you qualify fore than any other poster in this thread for a front seat in Hell. Everyone else is expressing opinions, you are cruelly attacking.

Thankfully Hell does not exist, Jesus Christ is all made up too, and God is the biggest load of bullshit that ever was created. So, even though you deserve to, you are not going to hell, but you are one mean-spirited retard.
 Quoting: Pragmatic skeptic 28197919


^^
What this guy said. Thank you for stepping in and backing up the side of Truth, against the side of Deceit.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend
Tonight you feel all high and mighty and vindicated.Not for long.The Most High sent the children of egypt to hell.Read numbers 31.killed men women and children for baal worship.You are going to burn.SOON.just wait for the tsunami to hit sydney then realise your future.
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Things go great on earth, mankind pats himself on the back for another well done job, but when things hit the skids like the BP oil spill and FUKUSHIMA mankind shakes a fist at God and says; How could you God do this devastating thing to us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119


You know what? You can turn that right on its head. Things go wrong, and it's mankinds fault, as we have free will.

Things go well, and it's all "Thank God!" "Praise the Lord!"...

It's ridiculous.
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


You know what, you just did turn it around as mankind does just in a little different form.

Do you really know who it is that puts food on your table and money in your pocket? You are not part of the answer.
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signed

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&

delivered.
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The elite controlled the world 2000yrs ago as they try to now, and so they manipulated things that threaten their power.

And by using a symbol of a dead or dying man crucified on a cross was deliberately used as a symbol for Jesus, in order to make people afraid of God, and to also be afraid to follow Jesus' True teaching.


Jesus' true teaching was also manipulated and much of it even omitted.

Especially his teaching on REINCARNATION and KARMA, which was REMOVED from the New Testament by the orders of Roman emperor Justinian's wife. (check it out yourselves)

She had been a cruel person and hurt many people, and she did not want karma and reincarnation to be true, so that she would have to have many lives in which she would have to also experience the same degree of pain and misery she had put many other people through.

THAT'S HOW KARMA WORKS, AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO REINCARNATE OVER AND OVER.

And she actually thought that by removing it from Jesus' teaching in the New Testament it would make it no longer true.
Is that arrogance or what?

Actually it seems kind of childish to believe that any of God's laws can be erased just because we don't want to believe in them.

Anyway there is a lot to learn if you are ready for it, and you can find it here:

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28197865


Interesting, thanks for the link! hf
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2000 years and what has changed

still wars

people still dying of hunger
still injustices

still death penalty

etc..etc..

and he would still be nailed to that cross either literally or symbolically

yet you all hope that somehow someone is going to wave a magic wand and everyone is going to become good

and float up to heaven

yeah right
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I'm a believer in Christ, and I agree with the OP..

If your mother was gruesomely killed with an axe, would you wear an axe around your neck, to honor her?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28173621

You are a JW so are not a Christian.the Cross is a symbol of LIFE not death and is the ANCIENT HEBREW PICTOGRAM symbol for COVENANT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


I'm a JW?

LOL!!!

If you only had ANY idea how many times I've exposed JW's as being the cult that they are, you'd feel like a monumental moron, Aussie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28173621

then dont repeat their nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


Hey Oztard... ***NEWSFLASH***

It's not ONLY JW's who know just how ridiculous it is to display the instrument of torturous death, to honor the person who was murdered by it.

If you REALLY want to end up looking like the ignorant fool that you are, then I'll school you on the REAL history of that symbol. And brother, it is ANYTHING but Godly.
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I'll tell you who puts food on the table and money in my pocket...

Me.

I work damned hard, away from home to do so. A few years ago, when i wasn't working, there was no food on the table, and no money in my pocket. I once went 3 days living on tap water. Where the fuck was the money and the food then?

Nothing miraculously materialised until i got another job, and sorted myself out - or was that just a weird coincidence..?

...or maybe it was your god that got me the job. Here was me thinking it was me writing letters, attending interviews etc, when all the time it was god.
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