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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


He can and will forgive ALL of your sins if you confess to Him and ask His forgiveness.

He knows what sin is, even if you don't.

Ask Him, talk to Him, pour your heart out to Him and let Him forgive you. He is faithful and true.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


He can and will forgive ALL of your sins if you confess to Him and ask His forgiveness.

He knows what sin is, even if you don't.

Ask Him, talk to Him, pour your heart out to Him and let Him forgive you. He is faithful and true.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
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GOD IS FOR REAL — THE ZOMBIE JESUS GOD IS NOT



GOD

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JESUS

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STORY



So God decides to incarnate himself as a human who is both his son and himself simultaneously (somehow the Holy Spirit is tied into this to form a trinity). Jesus (God) is sacrificed on the cross to himself, to die for the sins of mankind. What the fuck kind of sense does that make? My understanding of the word sin is that it basically means: to miss the mark, fall short of the glory of God, whatever that may be.

How does Jesus (God) suffering on the cross somehow make up and “save” people who fall short of the glory of God? It’s a bizarre premise to begin with, God sacrificing himself in the form of his son to himself to atone for the sins of mankind. What a bullshit, fear based religion. All Christianity does is make people feel they are “no good.”

People eat his flesh and drink his blood… Sounds pretty lunatic.

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Peace and blessing to Israel!

AC...you *WILL* bend your knees AND your heart before Him and confess that He Is King of kings and Lord of lords! Might as well do it now and honor The Messiah!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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You are going to burn.SOON.
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Thanks for the tip off. I'd better tell the wife to get in a couple of bottles of aftersun lotion next time she's at the chemist...
 Quoting: GeordieLegend
You'll be there for a long time, you may want to start a factory outlet. Hold a flame up to your hand, its pretty hot. It's hotter than that in hell, the flames don't go out, you can't die, your already dead, now imagine demons 12 ft tall demons slicing you apart with razor sharp claws,and Youll love the stench of burning bodies, and raw sewage. Yep have fun where your going, And did I tell ya, this is for eternity. How much fun is that?!!!!! Its still your choice.
 Quoting: stars


lol is that you JC, of Art Bell Fame?
Lol, My kid could be a murderer, a Mass murderer, and believe me, the biggest meanest punishment I could do would be to cause him not to exist anymore, if I were 'God'. Not torture him or her. Yet the God equals Love 'big guy' in the 'sky' wants us around for his sick twisted pleasures because we didn't 'believe'? That's like asking a blind man to believe the sky is blue or the grass is green. Sometimes the sky is gray and the grass is a crisp burnt yellow. Blind man really doesn't care, because it isn't what matters.
 Quoting: KonaCoffee





JC of Art Bell fame was a satanist. I know this for a fact, because I knew the guy. He told me that one of his biggest pleasures in life, was to create hatred towards Christians.

Worked pretty good too, on many of the incredibly weak-minded lemmings who eat up coast to coast am, like candy.
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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


He can and will forgive ALL of your sins if you confess to Him and ask His forgiveness.

He knows what sin is, even if you don't.

Ask Him, talk to Him, pour your heart out to Him and let Him forgive you. He is faithful and true.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
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1 Corinthians 1:18
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
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Doesn't that confirm that its all a farce..?
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It is what it is...to you.
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Thanks for the tip off. I'd better tell the wife to get in a couple of bottles of aftersun lotion next time she's at the chemist...
 Quoting: GeordieLegend
You'll be there for a long time, you may want to start a factory outlet. Hold a flame up to your hand, its pretty hot. It's hotter than that in hell, the flames don't go out, you can't die, your already dead, now imagine demons 12 ft tall demons slicing you apart with razor sharp claws,and Youll love the stench of burning bodies, and raw sewage. Yep have fun where your going, And did I tell ya, this is for eternity. How much fun is that?!!!!! Its still your choice.
 Quoting: stars


lol is that you JC, of Art Bell Fame?
Lol, My kid could be a murderer, a Mass murderer, and believe me, the biggest meanest punishment I could do would be to cause him not to exist anymore, if I were 'God'. Not torture him or her. Yet the God equals Love 'big guy' in the 'sky' wants us around for his sick twisted pleasures because we didn't 'believe'? That's like asking a blind man to believe the sky is blue or the grass is green. Sometimes the sky is gray and the grass is a crisp burnt yellow. Blind man really doesn't care, because it isn't what matters.
 Quoting: KonaCoffee





JC of Art Bell fame was a satanist. I know this for a fact, because I knew the guy. He told me that one of his biggest pleasures in life, was to create hatred towards Christians.

Worked pretty good too, on many of the incredibly weak-minded lemmings who eat up coast to coast am, like candy.
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haha, well now it all makes sense. entertainment for the masses. Nothing is wrong with that, churches do it all the time.
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Waste not your valuable time and life-energy in discussing and defending Jesus O man! For if you would spare a moment to listen, you shall know the truth:
>
Thread: Books Rejected by the Council of NICEA - The BIBLE } Allegories, Parables and Stories representing Physiology, Anatomy, Astrology, Chemistry !!






God-Man: The Word Made Flesh

They broke down the walls of Jericho and entered the
city with the ARK of the MOST HIGH GOD.

In the New Testament story Jesus was baptized in the
Jordan. Then, when the time came for His crucifixion,
He went to the Garden of Gethsemene. In anatomy this
is near the Medulla Oblongata, with the olives on either
side, a physiological fact, as any anatomy proves. There
are two "pyramids," also, at this place.

In anatomy, Golgotha (place of the skull, in Hebrew)
is the base of the skull, where the spinal cord enters the
head. At this point is a double cross made by the Adi,
the Pingala and the pneumogastric nerves. They are the
St. George and St. Andrew crosses, with the form of a
man displayed therein. Many very ancient Byzantine
coins and frescoes show this deeply esoteric symbol. This
same eight-pointed star or combined crosses appears on
amulets and seals of ancient Chaldea, Babylon, Assyria,
Persia and India.

Can we any longer doubt that the ancient records told
the same story as is found in our own Scriptures, and that
it was all in regard to one thing, one process, the MAS-
TERY OF THE BODY?


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Thread: Books Rejected by the Council of NICEA - The BIBLE } Allegories, Parables and Stories representing Physiology, Anatomy, Astrology, Chemistry !!

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He can and will forgive ALL of your sins if you confess to Him and ask His forgiveness.

He knows what sin is, even if you don't.

Ask Him, talk to Him, pour your heart out to Him and let Him forgive you. He is faithful and true.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


The Critical difference *IS*...that He's *NOT* dead, but ALIVE! This *is* the whole of the point! He Is Alive! Bend your knee now, ask Him to forgive you and repent! Otherwise if you die without Him, you will regret with a truly eternal regret that is beyond imagination!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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Waste not your valuable time and life-energy in discussing and defending Jesus O man! For if you would spare a moment to listen, you shall know the truth:
>
Thread: Books Rejected by the Council of NICEA - The BIBLE } Allegories, Parables and Stories representing Physiology, Anatomy, Astrology, Chemistry !!






God-Man: The Word Made Flesh

They broke down the walls of Jericho and entered the
city with the ARK of the MOST HIGH GOD.

In the New Testament story Jesus was baptized in the
Jordan. Then, when the time came for His crucifixion,
He went to the Garden of Gethsemene. In anatomy this
is near the Medulla Oblongata, with the olives on either
side, a physiological fact, as any anatomy proves. There
are two "pyramids," also, at this place.

In anatomy, Golgotha (place of the skull, in Hebrew)
is the base of the skull, where the spinal cord enters the
head. At this point is a double cross made by the Adi,
the Pingala and the pneumogastric nerves. They are the
St. George and St. Andrew crosses, with the form of a
man displayed therein. Many very ancient Byzantine
coins and frescoes show this deeply esoteric symbol. This
same eight-pointed star or combined crosses appears on
amulets and seals of ancient Chaldea, Babylon, Assyria,
Persia and India.

Can we any longer doubt that the ancient records told
the same story as is found in our own Scriptures, and that
it was all in regard to one thing, one process, the MAS-
TERY OF THE BODY?


>>
Thread: Books Rejected by the Council of NICEA - The BIBLE } Allegories, Parables and Stories representing Physiology, Anatomy, Astrology, Chemistry !!
 Quoting: abhie


Much better.
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Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
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I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


The Critical difference *IS*...that He's *NOT* dead, but ALIVE! This *is* the whole of the point! He Is Alive! Bend your knee now, ask Him to forgive you and repent! Otherwise if you die without Him, you will regret with a truly eternal regret that is beyond imagination!
 Quoting: jdb


If something, ANYTHING is alive, it can be proven. Where is the proof of this "alive Jesus"?
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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


Read the scriptures.

Sin is transgression of the Law.

Who decides what is and isn't a sin?

The Creator... Of course.
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It just occurred to me how bloody awful is the representation of a tortured corpse hanging from a cross as the symbol of a religion. Ugh. Barbarians. And people drink it up.
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I totally agree. who the fuck would want the image of a bloody man nailed to a cross as their religious symbol?

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Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
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I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


The Critical difference *IS*...that He's *NOT* dead, but ALIVE! This *is* the whole of the point! He Is Alive! Bend your knee now, ask Him to forgive you and repent! Otherwise if you die without Him, you will regret with a truly eternal regret that is beyond imagination!
 Quoting: jdb


Also, why would you ask for forgiveness to this Jesus instead of the actual person you sinned? Like I said, it's so much easier asking forgiveness to someone in your head than it is to ask forgiveness to the one you sinned.
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I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


The Critical difference *IS*...that He's *NOT* dead, but ALIVE! This *is* the whole of the point! He Is Alive! Bend your knee now, ask Him to forgive you and repent! Otherwise if you die without Him, you will regret with a truly eternal regret that is beyond imagination!
 Quoting: jdb


Also, why would you ask for forgiveness to this Jesus instead of the actual person you sinned? Like I said, it's so much easier asking forgiveness to someone in your head than it is to ask forgiveness to the one you sinned.
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Because they cannot save you from the grave.
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Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


The Critical difference *IS*...that He's *NOT* dead, but ALIVE! This *is* the whole of the point! He Is Alive! Bend your knee now, ask Him to forgive you and repent! Otherwise if you die without Him, you will regret with a truly eternal regret that is beyond imagination!
 Quoting: jdb


Also, why would you ask for forgiveness to this Jesus instead of the actual person you sinned? Like I said, it's so much easier asking forgiveness to someone in your head than it is to ask forgiveness to the one you sinned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


Because they cannot save you from the grave.
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Oh you must have proof of this Jesus saving people from the grave then?
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Learn the true deeper meaning of the symbolism
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THIS ^

To the OP, you are looking at the surface, you are not looking at the full picture and the "stuff" underneath.

Until you completely comprehend the real meaning behind the crucifixion, you cannot make those claims you just have.
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exactly my thought Christianity looks more like a satanic cult than good.... i mean it exists out of criminals, pedophiles, gays, etc etc how can this ever be a good religion.
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I believe the Jewish God and the God of Christ are not the same.

MHO.

What kind of God requires sexual mutilation?

A demented one.
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Here, for many a first time look at the curcifixion.
Its pretty much detailed. You can even see the feet nailed to the cross:
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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


He can and will forgive ALL of your sins if you confess to Him and ask His forgiveness.

He knows what sin is, even if you don't.

Ask Him, talk to Him, pour your heart out to Him and let Him forgive you. He is faithful and true.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Yes she did avoid answering it because she is dishonest and is not obedient to the will of the Messiah Yeshua or the Father. You see, she is one of those fake lukewarm 'Christians' who doesn't follow Yeshua but follows Saul/Paul and his anti-Law doctrine. She knows she will be caught out trying to explain this subject to you and then will look a liar.

Let me help you.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

There is only one Law and that is the Law of Moses, the Torah. There you will find all the sins people commit, there are hundreds of them but most do not apply to us today because of certain circumstances.
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exactly my thought Christianity looks more like a satanic cult than good.... i mean it exists out of criminals, pedophiles, gays, etc etc how can this ever be a good religion.
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The Catholics murdered the Gnostics. I agree, it is an evil cult.
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exactly also also my same thought, its something more easy to walk away with thats why many criminals use this religion to clean their hands with, its just insane and its nothing better than Muslim. Muslims do bad things in the name of Allah well Christians did horrible things and still do bad things in the name of god so amm again whats soo good about Christianity beside the fact that the whole world is using this believe system to either clean their hands of bad things with or other horrible things.



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Ask for forgiveness to someone who has been dead 2000 years instead of asking forgiveness from the person you "sinned"? That makes it so much easier for the "sinner" doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


The Critical difference *IS*...that He's *NOT* dead, but ALIVE! This *is* the whole of the point! He Is Alive! Bend your knee now, ask Him to forgive you and repent! Otherwise if you die without Him, you will regret with a truly eternal regret that is beyond imagination!
 Quoting: jdb


Also, why would you ask for forgiveness to this Jesus instead of the actual person you sinned? Like I said, it's so much easier asking forgiveness to someone in your head than it is to ask forgiveness to the one you sinned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


Because they cannot save you from the grave.
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He can and will forgive ALL of your sins if you confess to Him and ask His forgiveness.

He knows what sin is, even if you don't.

Ask Him, talk to Him, pour your heart out to Him and let Him forgive you. He is faithful and true.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Specifically what sins? What are these sins? I see you avoided Truly answering that question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26814846


I didn't avoid it, I said ALL of your sins. Everything that you know about, and ask forgiveness for the ones you don't even remember.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Yes she did avoid answering it because she is dishonest and is not obedient to the will of the Messiah Yeshua or the Father. You see, she is one of those fake lukewarm 'Christians' who doesn't follow Yeshua but follows Saul/Paul and his anti-Law doctrine. She knows she will be caught out trying to explain this subject to you and then will look a liar.

Let me help you.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

There is only one Law and that is the Law of Moses, the Torah. There you will find all the sins people commit, there are hundreds of them but most do not apply to us today because of certain circumstances.
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It's truly great to be able to express my opinion without being censored or banned from certain peoples threads.
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>_> *not a christian* :

The crucifix is indeed a gruesome symbol. But we can try to understand the meaning behind it:

The concept is that, knowing full well that this would happen to him, christ was willing to go through this barbaric torture for the sake of all humanity. It is the point example of a "selfless" act, which is supposed to be the centre focus of all christianity. By understanding this as being the key example of the centre focus of the religion itself, it makes sense for the symbol to be the most forefront representation thereof.


But again, I agree it's pretty strange when you look at it from a certain angle.
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ooh yea right the REAL meaning pfff is simple its still torture. that's the problem with you Christians you always try to shine a nice light on bad things make it prettier than it actually is while in fact its NOT. and of course In the name of Jezus, what everrr btw did you know that Jezus is there proof that IT existed and not some creation of a wanna bee steven spielberg in those times writing a nice script.

you cant proof it and just that 80% of the world believes in it does not mean it happend and or it exists.

what i do believe is that there is a force in everything a universal force and that has been proven to be true.

soo unless someone cant proof that Jezus existed for real with real evidence im like screw all those religions they just make this world a lie

sins pfff religion is a sin .... think about that




Learn the true deeper meaning of the symbolism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11171736

THIS ^

To the OP, you are looking at the surface, you are not looking at the full picture and the "stuff" underneath.

Until you completely comprehend the real meaning behind the crucifixion, you cannot make those claims you just have.
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Re: Crucifixion is most unGodly & barbaric symbolism for a religion
But really, it's a sign of his self-less sacrifice.
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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
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Read the scriptures.

Sin is transgression of the Law.

Who decides what is and isn't a sin?

The Creator... Of course.
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So which sins have stillborn babies commited, who were yet to experience life on this earth? Children born with Aids? Kids raped by paedo's - why kind of god would let such things happen to innocent souls..?

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Propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach...
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We dont care.Just watch for that tsunami.ww3 is about to start and you cannot see that .How then can you see God.
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No one can see god. You know why? The fucker doesn't exist.
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If you can't see God at this time then your fate is truly set in stone. I see God in everything that is happening,now more than ever. We are about to see a repeat of the Days of Noah and people still can't see God? How much proof does one need? How many natural disasters, how much evil, how much violence, and how many immoral acts towards man does one have to see to realize that the Book of Revelations is in play right now? We have been told that His Children will "turn away" again and we have been warned of the punishment. And yes I mean punishment from our loving Father who is angry at his children. The thoughts that I see through-out this thread is proof and only a small amount compared to what is going on in this entire world.

As far as the Crucifix? I have one in every room. Everytime I see them I am reminded of the amount of love and sacrifice our Father endured to save mankind. I haven't always been a Catholic so I have to say that the Crucifix is a much thorough reminder than the cross the the Protestants wear.
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So what was the point of it all then? Jesus died so we could all be forgiven of our sins you say...

Which sins are these?

And who decides what is and isn't a sin?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


Read the scriptures.

Sin is transgression of the Law.

Who decides what is and isn't a sin?

The Creator... Of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28173621


So which sins have stillborn babies commited, who were yet to experience life on this earth? Children born with Aids? Kids raped by paedo's - why kind of god would let such things happen to innocent souls..?
 Quoting: GeordieLegend


Babies and young children are not accountable for any sins they commit. They go directly to heaven. Animals go directly to heaven too.

hf