Crucifixion is most unGodly & barbaric symbolism for a religion

...ahhh, good old Noah.

The "story" about the guy with a huuuuuge boat, who sailed around the world collecting male & female animals...

Now i remember. More bullshit...

The Pineal Gland is actually mentioned, almost directly in the Bible, and referred to as MOUNT PENIAL.
This is where Jacob wrestles with the Angel of the Lord.
It means "Face of God" in Hebrew.

Genesis 32:30
New International Version (©1984)
So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared."

Edit:
JOSEPH is the Pineal Gland.
MARY, the Pituitary Gland.


Lol, the truth though was not understood.
Today we even have Pineal Bible Conference.
How many clues do you need?
Here's one, the answer sits within them, yet they look elsewhere, confused, and utterly in the dark:
[link to www.penielbibleconference.org]

Last Edited by abhie on 11/21/2012 08:27 AM

So why are young children & animals not accountable, but adults & humans are? When does a child officially become an adult, and all of a sudden become accountable?

...you do realise how stupid all of this is, don't you...

LOL!!!!!! Yeah...............they laughed at him too! Who laughed last?

And the Bible doesn't say that about children or young people. Another false teaching.

Babies and animals are not accountable because they know not what they do. They don't have the ability to know and understand.

Can you tell me a sin that an animal has done? Can you tell me a sin that an infant or toddler has committed?

Why don't you tell US why innocent humans are tortured and punished for no apparent reason.

So, what was mankind saved from, and how did some geezer being crucified - like countless others had been before and after him - make a shred of difference?

What happened to mankind after he died, that wouldn't have happened had he lived?

Probably the guy in the wood yard who sold him a shit load of wood and retired to the Bahamas.

Look - ITS NOT FUCKING TRUE. How big do you think that boat would have to be to get 2 of every single animal in the world onto it - and you think some fella knocked it up in his garden with his wife..?

Come on! Use your fucking brain! Are you really so dumb you believe that shit?!?!

He taught forgiveness. Before God came to Earth to live like a man, it was all about "an eye for an eye", no forgiveness. He had to die to show his love and sacrifice for his children. He rose on the Third Day. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son.........."

People were taught to turn the other cheek, forgive, love, not be greedy, give to those in need. The church was started after his death.

P.S. Read the New Testament. If you have already done so and still do not understand, then there isn't anything in this thread that will help you.

Yeshua died so we would have a way to atone of your sins since the Temple was destroyed. We use that blood to cover our sins. Yeshua became the Lamb of God. We do not get a free-ticket to heaven. We need to be obedient to the will of God and keep his Covenant and Commandments. Before Yeshua, the Israelites sacrificed animals to God to atone of their sins but then the Romans destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem and that was the only the designated place for animal sacrifice. If Yeshua had not sacrifice himself, there would have been no way for us to be forgiven.

The Gospel Message has been corrupted by Satan, a false Prophet namely Saul/Paul of Tarsus and false teachers who continue to peddle his wretched lies continuing the cycle of deception.

[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

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Matthew 5:17-19

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


Matthew 7:21-23

New King James Version (NKJV)
I Never Knew You

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4

Fixed.

"Truly I say to you, if you shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, you shall not enter therein. Some believers they don't understand to receive like a little child, is not being without My Spirit, but it's to be empty like a little child, so I can fill you with My Spirit.

To believe like a little child is to accept My plannings for you, and to obey them without doubting and being double minded, and not to hesitate to do My will, not yours, because a little child trust and depends from his parents, and obey them, and not always is for his good, rather you must trust and obey Me for your good.

Having a pure heart like a little child toward sin, means to consider the sin is harm against yourself and Me, and you mustn't make it, and be pure heart like a little child, because without it, you can never see Me."

So phew! If he hadnt have died, there would have been millions killed in countless wars over the last 2,000 years then. Good job he did that, otherwise we would have had 2 world wars this century already, and be on the verge of a 3rd.

He's also stopped wars in afghanistan, iraq and he's just about to stop the war in Israel!!

AMEN! HALLELUJAH!!! PRAISE THE LORD!

It was people like you, that crucified people, moron, your people!

HE WAS MURDERED.

Yes, He was murdered, brutally murdered. But He allowed it because He loves us.

:lovecrime:

It appears you are very angry with the Lord. Everything happens for a reason. God allows things to happen. He isn't an over-bearing parent who does not allow us to make our own mistakes. Man has caused the wars...........not God. However, there come a time where a parent says "ENOUGH". That time is now. All I can say is that I hope you see "the light" and prepare your soul for what is coming.

As was stated in another post:

Christians claim their god is all powerful and all knowing. If thats true the bible god knows in advance what all 6. 7 billion people on the planet will do before they do it.

No one has the option to change that which their god knows IN ADVANCE... (Remember god is ALL KNOWING) that they will do.

If god is NOT all knowing then he has to sit back and wonder what each person will do next. In that case, god cannot be all knowing.

So either the bible god knows in advance what each of us will do, or he cannot be all knowing.

Therefore, god is in on the planning of all the pain, terror and suffering in the world.

...what a guy...

Last Edited by GeordieLegend on 11/21/2012 08:45 AM

Yes but he knew that would befall him beforehand.

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. Mark 14:36

If you knew your son was about to rob a bank does that make you "in" on the act of the robbery?

You knew that you have given him a foundation of morals, taught him right from wrong...........yet he still does it.
Is it YOUR fault that he decides to rob a bank?

Yes, it does. If i found out my son was about to do something like that i'd kick the living shit out of him and take him to the police station to hand him in myself.

What would you do - Let him carry it out, maybe kill a few innocent bystanders and then help him hide from the cops afterwards because that was "gods plan"?

If it has only just occurred to you, then you must be very young. Most intelligent people realize the crucifix is a torture device by the time they are 12.

Well I guess God is a Liberal. Who am I to critique his parental skills. All I know is, at the end of our lives, we will be judged for all of our sins. That is when we receive our punishment or reward from our Father for the life that we lived.

Chao!

The crucifix remember us that Jesus died for us. And that is why each catholic have it in is house. To remember what he did for us. Each time I look at it, my hearth bleed for the world I live in. Because all He wanted is for us to be brothers. And look today at all those racist christian who try to teach us the bible. The book in one hand and a gun in the others. Like you said. catholic are evil.

I've said it before, andd i'll say it again.

Stop talking shite.

OPEN your minds a little bit and you will be able to see right through the manipulation that happened right from the beginning.

The symbol of the cross with a dying or dead man on it was chosen ON PURPOSE by the anti-christ to undermine Jesus' effectiveness and purpose here on Earth.

It was deliberately chosen by the anti-christ to bring fear that Jesus the bringer of the Christ message was just a dead man crucified on a cross.

WELL, WHAT KIND OF FEELING DOES THAT GIVE ANYONE WHO SEES IT?
IT WAS DELIBERATE!

They could have easily chosen a symbol of the Reserection since that was the reason Jesus ALLOWED himself to be crucified.
HE ALLOWED IT TO PROVE THAT HE COULD RISE FROM DEATH ITSELF. AND SO COULD WE BECAUSE LIFE WAS ETERNAL FOR ALL OF US.


DON'T ACCEPT THE BS THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN US REGARDLESS WHAT BOOKS THE BS INFORMATION IS IN.
IT WAS PUT THERE TO PURPOSELY MANIPULATE US!!!

Also the story about the "virgin birth" was another LIE, to make Jesus out to be some kind of SPECIAL SUPER PERSON so different from us so that we would not dare compare ourselves with him, or try to emulate him or follow his teaching.

Jesus was sent to Earth by God to live a life as a man so that he could become an EXAMPLE for us to follow.

He lived a life like we do but he achieved CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS while in this life.
Which is the highest level we can achieve here on Earth.

He then was able to TEACH his followers how to also achieve CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS by following his examples that he taught and also lived by.

And he said that EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD DONE COULD ALSO BE DONE BY ANY OF US, AND EVEN GREATER THINGS COULD BE DONE by us if we followed his example and teaching and also achieved our CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS.

THE ELITE MANIPULATORS WANTED HIM TO APPEAR TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF US, LIKE A SUPERMAN AND THAT IS WHY THEY CLEVERLY MANIPULATED WHAT WE "THINK" WE KNOW ABOUT JESUS, AS THE "ONLY SON" OF GOD.
IT WAS A LIE!

Do you see what that means?

A good teacher can only teach others who are like him/her, and are potentially capable of achieving whatever that good teacher has achieved.


A SUPER MAN WITH POWERS NOT GIVEN TO ANY OTHER PERSON COULD NEVER BE A GOOD TEACHER TO THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE SAME POTENTIAL.

THE COMIC BOOK 'SUPERMAN' COULD FLY, AND HAD ALL OTHER SORTS OF INHUMAN TRAITS AND ABILITIES.
Therefore he could not be an example to follow by ordinary humans who would never be able to achieve the same abilities.

Jesus was a normal man, who also called himself 'son of man', but who achieved CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS, which we can also all achieve if we learn how.

That's what he came to teach us. And we can learn it too!
That's the real point of our lives!

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]
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We also have the Sacred Hearth. He is alive on that one.