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I don't understand this gaze thing

 
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I don't understand this gaze thing
The Palestinians are Muslims, Israelis are Jews.
Israel's borders were well defined.

If the Palestinians want land, why doesn't this Muslim Brotherhood share their lands? Big shot "brotherhood".

If you hate Israel, you have no business living there, go live with your own kind.

E.g. If I was a white racist bigot, why would I live in a black neighborhood?
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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
The Palestinians are Muslims, Israelis are Jews.
Israel's borders were well defined.

If the Palestinians want land, why doesn't this Muslim Brotherhood share their lands? Big shot "brotherhood".

If you hate Israel, you have no business living there, go live with your own kind.

E.g. If I was a white racist bigot, why would I live in a black neighborhood?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25672410


I agree with you, but that is not quite the same to them. They insist that because it is all Muslim land, only Muslims are allowed to live there. Since they see Israel as being forced upon them by the demands of the UN, and against their will, they have a right to land that is no longer theirs. Why should they be forced to move from their own land?

It would be as if you had a large farm, and had built it to support those you want to support. Suddenly, the County Commissioners decided that the middle of your farm would be a great place to build condos and townhouses. They didn't ask you, they didn't care, they wanted, they took. You would be pissed about this, yes.

Now, take it a bit farther. You come to find out that the farm you have had for so long, didn't actually belong to you, even though you have had it in the family for twenty generations. It turns out that the actual owners of the land had been forced off of the land through no fault of their own, and they are now able to finally claim it as theirs again. It turns out that your family farm wasn't really your farm to begin with, and you have no legal means to possess it. The rightful owners have finally gotten a court to accept their claim as valid, and yours as invalid.

Of course, you would be pissed. What about squatter's rights? Are their any rights that you have that would allow you to stay on the land. Sure you can stay on it, but you have to accept that you do not own the land. The courts have decided that all the land belongs to someone else.

This is what the so-called Palestinians are so mad about. It had been theirs for so long, and now it isn't. It has to be all the Jews fault. The fault happens to lie with the Palestinians themselves. They can live there in peace, or they can fight and die.
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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
It's not about land, the muzzies want all the Jews dead...period
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
It's not about land, the muzzies want all the Jews dead...period
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's not about land, the muzzies want all the Jews dead...period
 Quoting: BRIEF


^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^
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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
Not quite:

"Now, take it a bit farther. You come to find out that the farm you have had for so long, didn't actually belong to you, even though you have had it in the family for twenty generations. It turns out that the actual owners of the land had been forced off of the land through no fault of their own, and they are now able to finally claim it as theirs again"

Only because of what is claimed to be written on some stone tablet that is thousands of years old, that also happened to state that Jews are the "Chosen Ones". All revealed by some off-world alien that they call God, and that nobody was around to witness this at the time so we have to take their word for it.......

Can you imagine the Italians these days going into Greece and kicking some Greeks out of their homes based upon the fact that the Roman Empire was all over Greece a few thousand years ago and now they want Greece back?

Now imagine the Greeks rebelling - except they are called Terrorists by the Italians......
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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
Not quite:

"Now, take it a bit farther. You come to find out that the farm you have had for so long, didn't actually belong to you, even though you have had it in the family for twenty generations. It turns out that the actual owners of the land had been forced off of the land through no fault of their own, and they are now able to finally claim it as theirs again"

Only because of what is claimed to be written on some stone tablet that is thousands of years old, that also happened to state that Jews are the "Chosen Ones". All revealed by some off-world alien that they call God, and that nobody was around to witness this at the time so we have to take their word for it.......

Can you imagine the Italians these days going into Greece and kicking some Greeks out of their homes based upon the fact that the Roman Empire was all over Greece a few thousand years ago and now they want Greece back?

Now imagine the Greeks rebelling - except they are called Terrorists by the Italians......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17996389


No, the Palestinians were squatting on Arab owned land and Israel purchased it...Israel is their new landlord
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
Not quite:

"Now, take it a bit farther. You come to find out that the farm you have had for so long, didn't actually belong to you, even though you have had it in the family for twenty generations. It turns out that the actual owners of the land had been forced off of the land through no fault of their own, and they are now able to finally claim it as theirs again"

Only because of what is claimed to be written on some stone tablet that is thousands of years old, that also happened to state that Jews are the "Chosen Ones". All revealed by some off-world alien that they call God, and that nobody was around to witness this at the time so we have to take their word for it.......

Can you imagine the Italians these days going into Greece and kicking some Greeks out of their homes based upon the fact that the Roman Empire was all over Greece a few thousand years ago and now they want Greece back?

Now imagine the Greeks rebelling - except they are called Terrorists by the Italians......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17996389


No, the Palestinians were squatting on Arab owned land and Israel purchased it...Israel is their new landlord
 Quoting: BRIEF


Purchased it eh? well there's a whole can of worms just waiting.

OP, if there borders are so well deined how come they have changed so many times over the past 30 years?
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
Not quite:

"Now, take it a bit farther. You come to find out that the farm you have had for so long, didn't actually belong to you, even though you have had it in the family for twenty generations. It turns out that the actual owners of the land had been forced off of the land through no fault of their own, and they are now able to finally claim it as theirs again"

Only because of what is claimed to be written on some stone tablet that is thousands of years old, that also happened to state that Jews are the "Chosen Ones". All revealed by some off-world alien that they call God, and that nobody was around to witness this at the time so we have to take their word for it.......

Can you imagine the Italians these days going into Greece and kicking some Greeks out of their homes based upon the fact that the Roman Empire was all over Greece a few thousand years ago and now they want Greece back?

Now imagine the Greeks rebelling - except they are called Terrorists by the Italians......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17996389


No, the Palestinians were squatting on Arab owned land and Israel purchased it...Israel is their new landlord
 Quoting: BRIEF


Purchased it eh? well there's a whole can of worms just waiting.

OP, if there borders are so well deined how come they have changed so many times over the past 30 years?
 Quoting: NSF001


When they are attacked they grab more land, just like when there is a suicide bombing they bulldoze the family's house of the bomber...but no deterrents really work, they just need to carpet bomb them and bulldoze them all into the sea.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
It's not about land, the muzzies want all the Jews dead...period
 Quoting: BRIEF


The muzzies want everyone dead!
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Re: I don't understand this gaze thing
It's not about land, the muzzies want all the Jews dead...period
 Quoting: BRIEF


The muzzies want everyone dead!
 Quoting: 071676


That too...if there were only two people left on Earth and they were both muzzies, they'd throw rocks at each other...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Brief:

Palestine as a home for the Jews, was agreed upon in 1917 via the Balfour Treaty, whereby Lord Balfour got together with a few Zionists and decided to do this.

Balfour and the Zionists (pretty much Jews that were living in communist or socialist countries at the time) had in mind that Palestine would be an excellent bridgehead for western powers to secure energy dominance throughout the Middle East.

Everything else is a cover and disinformation with partial truths, including the mechanism of Israel buying Palestine from the Arabs.

Strange how the Palestinians and Arabs are the ones that are suffering under the Israeli Terrorist State when it was Christian Europeans that committed the holocaust against the Jews in WW2

Whether or not you believe that Israel have a legitimate claim to Palestine because they "paid" for the land, does not get away from the fact that since then there has been aggressive and illegal land taking by the Israelis going on in Palestine ever since.

How would you feel if a consortium of Native Americans came together and decided with another country to buy the land that you live on from under your feet, and then continue to take your land and illegally occupy it? Along with all of the other atrocities that have been committed by Israelis upon the Palestinians that would be committed by the Native Americans upon US Citizens?
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Brief:

Palestine as a home for the Jews, was agreed upon in 1917 via the Balfour Treaty, whereby Lord Balfour got together with a few Zionists and decided to do this.

Balfour and the Zionists (pretty much Jews that were living in communist or socialist countries at the time) had in mind that Palestine would be an excellent bridgehead for western powers to secure energy dominance throughout the Middle East.

Everything else is a cover and disinformation with partial truths, including the mechanism of Israel buying Palestine from the Arabs.

Strange how the Palestinians and Arabs are the ones that are suffering under the Israeli Terrorist State when it was Christian Europeans that committed the holocaust against the Jews in WW2

Whether or not you believe that Israel have a legitimate claim to Palestine because they "paid" for the land, does not get away from the fact that since then there has been aggressive and illegal land taking by the Israelis going on in Palestine ever since.

How would you feel if a consortium of Native Americans came together and decided with another country to buy the land that you live on from under your feet, and then continue to take your land and illegally occupy it? Along with all of the other atrocities that have been committed by Israelis upon the Palestinians that would be committed by the Native Americans upon US Citizens?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17996389


There is no Palestine...they are squatters

The Jews pooled their money and bought the land from the Arabs, the Palestinians are just nuisance animals that need to be exterminated. They were given a chance to live peacefully and have proven they don't want peace.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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"If" the Palestinians are squatters, then by that argument:

Did your ancestors buy US land from Native Americans or take it by force?

Doesn't that make you a squatter also?

How would you feel if you were kicked off the land that your ancestors have been squatting on for generations?
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"If" the Palestinians are squatters, then by that argument:

Did your ancestors buy US land from Native Americans or take it by force?

Doesn't that make you a squatter also?

How would you feel if you were kicked off the land that your ancestors have been squatting on for generations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17996389


The land was already owned by Arabs...the Jews simply bought it...the Native Americans were only using a small portion of land to run around killing each other on...they can still do that on their reservations...
With freedom comes responsibility.

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Brief:

Palestine as a home for the Jews, was agreed upon in 1917 via the Balfour Treaty, whereby Lord Balfour got together with a few Zionists and decided to do this.

Balfour and the Zionists (pretty much Jews that were living in communist or socialist countries at the time) had in mind that Palestine would be an excellent bridgehead for western powers to secure energy dominance throughout the Middle East.

Everything else is a cover and disinformation with partial truths, including the mechanism of Israel buying Palestine from the Arabs.

Strange how the Palestinians and Arabs are the ones that are suffering under the Israeli Terrorist State when it was Christian Europeans that committed the holocaust against the Jews in WW2

Whether or not you believe that Israel have a legitimate claim to Palestine because they "paid" for the land, does not get away from the fact that since then there has been aggressive and illegal land taking by the Israelis going on in Palestine ever since.

How would you feel if a consortium of Native Americans came together and decided with another country to buy the land that you live on from under your feet, and then continue to take your land and illegally occupy it? Along with all of the other atrocities that have been committed by Israelis upon the Palestinians that would be committed by the Native Americans upon US Citizens?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17996389


The fact that I AM an Amerindian, might cloud my idea, but I will tell you what I think of it.

The "indians" never were asked if you can come and take the land away from us. Granted, treaties were signed, and every one of them were violated by you. Even the slaves, once they had gained their freedom, used my people for target practice. They didn't just killed us, they tried to destroy us completely. "Indians" were told that if they stayed on the reservation, they would be well care for and receive all we needed. Another lie. After that, things only got worse. Now, "Indians" are on the lowest rung of the social ladder in this country.

But you seem to confuse a lot about a lot you don't know. One, "Indians" never saw themselves owning land. It was and always will be only GOD's land. We would not slaughter all of those that tried to slaughter us. That is not GODs way. That is not our GODs way. We only ask that you abide by your own words. Give us what you promised. Give us what is rightfully ours. That is all we ask. That is all I want.

Israel, only asks that it be allowed to live in peace on the land of their ancestors. They want their own country, on their own land. Land that was legally given to them. I will not state that the legality of it all is beyond rebuke, but I will add that I do agree that they have a right to exist, just as any race, creed, or belief has a right to exist.

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