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Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!

 
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Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
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HHS stuck with a proposal that allows insurers to charge the oldest patients three times as much as they charge a 21-year-old. And the rates can go up a little bit with every birthday. But smokers can be charged premiums that are five times higher under the new rules.


Enjoy suckas!
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HHS stuck with a proposal that allows insurers to charge the oldest patients three times as much as they charge a 21-year-old. And the rates can go up a little bit with every birthday. But smokers can be charged premiums that are five times higher under the new rules.


Enjoy suckas!
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Well, Pelosi made it clear they would have to pass the bill to see what was in it. Guess they are starting to unwrap our Christmas present a little early. Maybe they will unveil a new statute of the bill each day between now and Christmas so we feel like we're getting a new gift each day
Anarcho-capitalism, check it out...

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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
This is gonna screw over the old...

So yeah death panels are coming... pay the piper even more or die!
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11/21/2012 07:36 AM
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
We rather pay the fine and will.
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
We rather pay the fine and will.
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Since there's no provision for actually collecting the fine, lots of us will be doing the same.
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11/21/2012 07:40 AM
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.

rant
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
wait till they determine (*) are bad for your health...and for your own good they outlaw (*) to keep cost low & to make sure you don't hurt yourself!

* = ___________________________

possible examples:

guns
bullets
natural vitamins
Twinkies
Sweet Tea
Fast Car
Fast Women
High Heels
Pasiley Furniture
Church
Talk Radio
GLP
Tatoos
Breathing
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
We rather pay the fine and will.
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Or don't pay anything and tell them to go fuck a goat.
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11/21/2012 08:05 AM
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
What about fatties, will they have to pay more too?
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11/21/2012 08:12 AM
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
they don't want you smoking because
it interferes with the chemicals
in the chemtrails and gmo foods.
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11/21/2012 08:17 AM
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.

rant
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Ain't that the truth!
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"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.


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Wow. Nailed it.clappa
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What about fatties, will they have to pay more too?
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how much does it cost to maintain an AIDS patient?

bet it aint cheap
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
We rather pay the fine and will.
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Since there's no provision for actually collecting the fine, lots of us will be doing the same.
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The irs will confiscate your tax return.
We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN!
A pissed off American Veteran!
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.

rant
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Ain't that the truth!
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your world is run by occult powers that you do not understand
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
they don't want you smoking because
it interferes with the chemicals
in the chemtrails and gmo foods.
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I have been hearing this frequently. that smoking interferes with mind-control.
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.

rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27928265


Ain't that the truth!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14125263


your world is run by occult powers that you do not understand
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Enlighten us.
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
they don't want you smoking because
it interferes with the chemicals
in the chemtrails and gmo foods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28203775


EXACTLY! You hit the nail on the head. What gets me is tht otherwie intelligent people (smokers and non-smokers alike) haven't noticed that there is an extreme worldwide coordinated well financed program to vilify smoking and to force by taxes and restrictions the cessation of smoking. It's because the nicotine blocks the receptors that the mind control elements latch onto in the brain.

They also, you may have noticed, are similarly restricting the chewing of tobacco--and that has noting to do with so-called second hand smoke.

The International Jews want us to become compliant zombies, but simple old nicotine is blocking the fluoride and other aluminum by-products found in tooth paste and underarm deodorant.
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
Right, 'cuz taxing tea worked out so terrifically for the British. amirite?
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
they don't want you smoking because
it interferes with the chemicals
in the chemtrails and gmo foods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28203775


EXACTLY! You hit the nail on the head. What gets me is tht otherwie intelligent people (smokers and non-smokers alike) haven't noticed that there is an extreme worldwide coordinated well financed program to vilify smoking and to force by taxes and restrictions the cessation of smoking. It's because the nicotine blocks the receptors that the mind control elements latch onto in the brain.

They also, you may have noticed, are similarly restricting the chewing of tobacco--and that has noting to do with so-called second hand smoke.

The International Jews want us to become compliant zombies, but simple old nicotine is blocking the fluoride and other aluminum by-products found in tooth paste and underarm deodorant.
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Do you have a source for this information about blocking mind control receptors?
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.

rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27928265


Ain't that the truth!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14125263


your world is run by occult powers that you do not understand
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26002078


Enlighten us.
 Quoting: NSF001


How can anyone enlighten a fool who is so blind as to be unaware that the first world is built upon the graves of the rest of the world. Enjoy your delusion as the world that you think you built is torn from your grasp.
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
they don't want you smoking because
it interferes with the chemicals
in the chemtrails and gmo foods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28203775


EXACTLY! You hit the nail on the head. What gets me is tht otherwie intelligent people (smokers and non-smokers alike) haven't noticed that there is an extreme worldwide coordinated well financed program to vilify smoking and to force by taxes and restrictions the cessation of smoking. It's because the nicotine blocks the receptors that the mind control elements latch onto in the brain.

They also, you may have noticed, are similarly restricting the chewing of tobacco--and that has noting to do with so-called second hand smoke.

The International Jews want us to become compliant zombies, but simple old nicotine is blocking the fluoride and other aluminum by-products found in tooth paste and underarm deodorant.
 Quoting: Anon. 4981012


Do you have a source for this information about blocking mind control receptors?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27999563


Hello, I am the source. But as far as proof at this time I can only offer circumstantial evidence. More research needs to be done, but obviously if there is a conspiracy it will be difficult to find an outright confession by one of them.

Some points:

friend of mine was/is a nurse in a psych ward, and several years ago (6-7?) they were ordered to not let those patients to smoke. She and the other nurses objected because they used to "bargain" with those patients to take baths, eat, listen to them, etc. by promising them outside (enclosed area) smoking time. The explanation given to them was that smoking was interfering with the psych meds and rendering them ineffective in "patient management."

Another point: Prisons nationwide have all instantly banned inmate smoking.

Another point;
the "stop-smoking" drugs advertized on tv all carry warnings of mental side-effects like suicidal thoughts, strange dreams, and other psych effects; proving to me that the drugs used to stop smoking (by mimicing something in the brain, also affect mind condition.

More facts and evidence is out there, I just haven't devoted the time to search it out. But you do know that Stalin gave the gulag inmates fluoride to lessen their resistance to instructions and to make them more compliant. Hitler also allegedly wanted to do the same but apparently didn't have time to, or for whatever reason didn't institute it.

And maybe as a little joke here follows: but one might look at the voting practices of a majority of Americans lately, and society's overall lack of resistance to oppressive government actions--they must be under some kind of mind-numbing substance.

Can I get any research help here from anyone else on this matter?
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reverse psych. rebel, and chems in cigs will hurt you.

roll your own heirloom tbacky.
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
"Live as we tell you or die in a ditch". Welcome to the progressives playground where only the white male has to work and everybody else can sit around and finger paint collages of everybody, of every colour dancing on the graves of those who build the first world.

rant
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don't get mad, bro
the system only works if you do
maybe it's time for you working guys to shrug?
stop doing the bidding and propping up the system
you do have the power to do that
just not the courage anymore
or the unity
as a woman i would support this
just as i'd love to see all women (all colors)
refuse to buy trashy shit for their daughters
refuse to buy poisonous food or inject their babes with toxins
refuse to "accept" porn as a "normal" part of society and not the anti-feminine woman brainwashing it has become
refuse to go to a movie or watch a show that depicts the "modern" woman as man haters in pants suits or sluts or "mothers" who hand their children over to others to take care of them...

hey, i can dream...
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We rather pay the fine and will.
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The fines will increase until till you submit, and purchase insurance.
If they find out to many are opting out, they will just change the fine amounts till the desired result is achieved.
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shit dawg's, you mean i cant smoke me a carton of newports a day anymore, shit dawgs.
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We rather pay the fine and will.
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Since there's no provision for actually collecting the fine, lots of us will be doing the same.
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That's what they are tell you. right now.
They were not hiring all those extra IRS agents to enforce Obama Care for nothing!
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
wait till they determine (*) are bad for your health...and for your own good they outlaw (*) to keep cost low & to make sure you don't hurt yourself!

* = ___________________________

possible examples:

guns
bullets
natural vitamins
Twinkies
Sweet Tea
Fast Car
Fast Women
High Heels
Pasiley Furniture
Church
Talk Radio
GLP
Tatoos
Breathing
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alcohol....again (except of course for the uppity-ups who will have it flowing IV) You peasants should know though that it is definitely bad for you....you a working unit of production. Can't have you getting hung over and called off from work.
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We rather pay the fine and will.
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Or don't pay anything and tell them to go fuck a goat.
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Yes, just keep telling them that as they haul you off to jail.
Sooner or later it will come to that. Right now they "say" that they will not come after you for non compliance but when has that ever lasted.
Taxes are voluntary, right. Try not paying them and see what happens.
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Re: Feds releases long awaited Obamacare new insurance premium... smokers are screwed!
In the early days of the cassiopeans the channel said good things about smoking. It's in The Wave series if anyone wants to track it down. Laura Knight did a lot of basic research on it and it does effect mind control type of stuff. Very interesting reading.





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