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Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!

 
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
Sadly enough, I'm starting to believe that this is the new america.

The re-election of BO kinda solidified it for me.

Just look at the fucks on this thread that will do anything to try to convince us that it's not wrong....

I don't give a shit what you say... if your mom saw you doing it she'd slap you. If she didn't, I would.
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I was thinking the same. This is the new generation. God help us...
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Unfortunately if you read a lot of posts on this site it will just reinforce how far down the slope our society has slid. Freedom of speech is indeed one of the founding principals but, there is a difference between exercising your right to freedom of speech and being rude and disrespectful. .................. and that is the line that is routinely crossed these days because people see that there generally are NO consequences for this behaviour.

The problem has been magnified in the last decade or so by social media and everyone hiding behind computer monitors. You can see how poorly young people communicate in public, in face to face situations. There is also the tendency in social media for many to instantly go on the attack because it is fast and easy and................... unless you really go overboard, there are no consequences.

Sad times and in the long run it will have very negative side affects.
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
"War Is A Racket"___Gen. Smedley Butler
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Maybe there was a time when America's fallen brave soldiers really were defending our freedoms, but they time passed away a long time before any of us were born.
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Here you go. +1
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"War Is A Racket"___Gen. Smedley Butler
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THIS. Find it. Read it.
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People in this country need to put on their bigboy pants.
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
anyone who finds themselves in a strang land being fired upon ny native people while wearing am American uniform who wasn't drafted has no sympathy from me, you chose this path for your life now live with it.
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They dont ask for, expect or desire your sympathy.

We just ask that you respect our fallen brothers/sisters.

And you respect that some people feel that they are dying for love of country.

They cant all be internet know-it-all, keyboard warriors.

:)
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I like how one woman wrote, "Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences..."

Actually. Yeah. Yeah it does.

The government is literally obligated by law to DEFEND us from any person trying to impose a 'consequence' on us for expressing our views or opinions.

Only if her 'speech' financially or physically hurt someone, was false, or was performed on private property where it was not allowed, could she be penalized in any way by anyone.

As far as I understand how the law is supposed to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Your understanding of the law is wrong.

The First Amendment "prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances."

Freedom of Speech in the U.S., as per the First Amendment, only applies to protection from the government. It does NOT apply to persons or organizations. So, a company (or person) can attempt to restrict your speech and may (and can) do so without any true penalties.
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
Sadly enough, I'm starting to believe that this is the new america.

The re-election of BO kinda solidified it for me.

Just look at the fucks on this thread that will do anything to try to convince us that it's not wrong....

I don't give a shit what you say... if your mom saw you doing it she'd slap you. If she didn't, I would.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


I was thinking the same. This is the new generation. God help us...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6568391


Unfortunately if you read a lot of posts on this site it will just reinforce how far down the slope our society has slid. Freedom of speech is indeed one of the founding principals but, there is a difference between exercising your right to freedom of speech and being rude and disrespectful. .................. and that is the line that is routinely crossed these days because people see that there generally are NO consequences for this behaviour.

The problem has been magnified in the last decade or so by social media and everyone hiding behind computer monitors. You can see how poorly young people communicate in public, in face to face situations. There is also the tendency in social media for many to instantly go on the attack because it is fast and easy and................... unless you really go overboard, there are no consequences.

Sad times and in the long run it will have very negative side affects.
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I've been here long enough to know what you are talking about... I'm also from a generation which still knows what respect means. My mother taught me that, my grandfather teached me history since I was 6.

The values in the new generation are GONE. I don't know why. Maybe their parents don't care?! Not only in America. In Europe is almost the same but in America is really, really bad...
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
I like how one woman wrote, "Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences..."

Actually. Yeah. Yeah it does.

The government is literally obligated by law to DEFEND us from any person trying to impose a 'consequence' on us for expressing our views or opinions.

Only if her 'speech' financially or physically hurt someone, was false, or was performed on private property where it was not allowed, could she be penalized in any way by anyone.

As far as I understand how the law is supposed to work.
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as in consequence perhaps she meant the backlash this dumb ass is getting.
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I think its funny. Everyone needs to stop being soooo offended over everything. Who cares.

If you care about veterans, how about healthcare and social support after they leave the military? How about not sending people to die in war for profits?
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go crawl back under the pile of dog s... you crawled ouy of, punk.
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
We don't always go to war for FREEDOM,sometimes we go for oil.
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11/21/2012 11:14 AM
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
This is what free speech is all about.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Satire = Free Speech

However poor in taste.
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
And if I might add - if she is fired from her job with the sole cause of publishing this picture then she has solid grounds for a lawsuit.
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And if I might add - if she is fired from her job with the sole cause of publishing this picture then she has solid grounds for a lawsuit.
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In spain.
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And if I might add - if she is fired from her job with the sole cause of publishing this picture then she has solid grounds for a lawsuit.
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I BELIEVE florida is a "right to work" state.

Meaning, no, she will not get a lawsuit, she can be fired for whatever they want.
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And if I might add - if she is fired from her job with the sole cause of publishing this picture then she has solid grounds for a lawsuit.
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I BELIEVE florida is a "right to work" state.

Meaning, no, she will not get a lawsuit, she can be fired for whatever they want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235765


Also, good luck getting an unemployment judge to side with her, when she cries for assistance from the government.. lol
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
Just curious. Why should I respect someone for killing others JUST BECAUSE SHE/HE WAS TOLD TO DO SO? Why should I respect anyone who gets paid to kill someone else? And please don't give me any of that crap about "fighting for our/my freedom." If that were true then please explain why I am a slave more than ever????!!!
Sorry, but I will not respect anyone who does not have enough intelligence to realize all these fuckin wars are all about MONEY. I have the deepest respect for those who dare stand up to TPTB and refuse to kill for hire - conscientious objectors/humanitarians.
While others were wearing the poppy on their label in honor of "kill for hire", I wore my PEACE symbol on my lapel.
 Quoting: beebee


Tear up your US passport. Give up your US citizenship. Move to Iran or Cuba. You piece of shit!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6568391


stfu No one should get paid to kill another just because the bankers want to get rich. Give me the name of just one Iranian that has done YOU wrong - name just one Cuban that has done YOU wrong. Do your damn homework before you puke out your disgusting patriotism.

"The WORLD is my home and to do good is my religion." Sir Thomas Paine
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ask the iranians in L.A. or the cubans in MIami what they think about your silly interpretation....fool
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15 minutes of fame.
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Wavy Gravy...where are you now that we need you?
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What a stupid thing to do. She is scum. She should be shamed publically and shunned by every person in her community. I'm sure vets in her town will not be quiet or kind about this.
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I think what this girl did was extremely disrespectful and ignorant but if she feels horrible about what she did and has apologized for offending whoever it is that she offended then people need to move on

saying that though....the place where she works has a right to let this girl go IF........if employing this girl is going to make people not want to do business there....it's not fair to the company that they should struggle financially because of the girls stupid actions

Last Edited by Simple_Man on 11/21/2012 11:31 AM
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I'm a bit more offended by the drunk drivers that kill

50,000+ of our citizens every year.

War racket statistics are nothing compared to this.
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
Sadly enough, I'm starting to believe that this is the new america.

The re-election of BO kinda solidified it for me.

Just look at the fucks on this thread that will do anything to try to convince us that it's not wrong....

I don't give a shit what you say... if your mom saw you doing it she'd slap you. If she didn't, I would.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


this x's 1000
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I think its funny. Everyone needs to stop being soooo offended over everything. Who cares.

If you care about veterans, how about healthcare and social support after they leave the military? How about not sending people to die in war for profits?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3626811


I don't understand the US' military worship, well, actually I do because it's a cornerstone of any fascist nation, but she was flipping off the wrong people. Next time try the elites who can't seem to fill these cemeteries quickly enough the last 70 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11803834


I can't believe the above comments...

If it wasn't for ALL of the fallen there was NOT going to be America! It is that simple.
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Oh my, you are a well trained, well programmed sheeple. You are a prime example of MIND CONTROL at its best.
 Quoting: beebee


clappa

She is retarded, and while I don't condone and wouldn't do this to any soldier's tomb, any "Patriot" who feels the need to post "They died and gave hurrr the right to do this!" needs to get their head out of their ass, pronto.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
I'm a bit more offended by the drunk drivers that kill

50,000+ of our citizens every year.

War racket statistics are nothing compared to this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28210980


Im not going to disagree with you here.

I think if you drink, and you drive, and you kill somebody.. you spend the rest of your life in prison.

And yes, I hold EVERYONE to the same accountability.

A good friend of mine in HS was drunk and she drove, and killed a little girl in her front yard, in front of her father.

She was released from prison and tried to add me on facebook.

uh, NO.
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I'm a bit more offended by the drunk drivers that kill

50,000+ of our citizens every year.

War racket statistics are nothing compared to this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28210980


Im not going to disagree with you here.

I think if you drink, and you drive, and you kill somebody.. you spend the rest of your life in prison.

And yes, I hold EVERYONE to the same accountability.

A good friend of mine in HS was drunk and she drove, and killed a little girl in her front yard, in front of her father.

She was released from prison and tried to add me on facebook.

uh, NO.
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clappa
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I catch nyone of you mother fucking lazy ass Marxist bitches doing that your worthless ass will be fertilizer on the lawn!
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clappa
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clappa
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i personally think its appalling, but because of those men she has the right to do that. and its even more shameful that they are violating her rights to do so
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
I like how one woman wrote, "Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences..."

Actually. Yeah. Yeah it does.

The government is literally obligated by law to DEFEND us from any person trying to impose a 'consequence' on us for expressing our views or opinions.

Only if her 'speech' financially or physically hurt someone, was false, or was performed on private property where it was not allowed, could she be penalized in any way by anyone.

As far as I understand how the law is supposed to work.
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Actually, uh no it doesn't. Sure you are free to say whatever you want, but there are consequences to your actions...if you came up to me and said "hey your daughter is hot - I'd really like to fuck her" prepare to make an appointment with your oral surgeon because your front teeth will be quickly down your throat. That my friend is consequences
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Re: Lindsay Stone Flipping Off Unknown Soldier Tomb Goes Viral, Sparks Outrage!
I like how one woman wrote, "Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences..."

Actually. Yeah. Yeah it does.

The government is literally obligated by law to DEFEND us from any person trying to impose a 'consequence' on us for expressing our views or opinions.

Only if her 'speech' financially or physically hurt someone, was false, or was performed on private property where it was not allowed, could she be penalized in any way by anyone.

As far as I understand how the law is supposed to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


by consequences, I don't think she meant from the Law.

She probably meant, repercussions like-

credibility loss
loss of friends
despised by people she meets.


This can change her life.

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