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Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.

 
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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The Mashiach

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.

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Christians, quit calling this Political leader the Anti Christ ! He will rebuild the temple, yes, the Beit Hamikdash. It does not mean he is the Anti Christ.
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It is acceptable btw. to spell it moshiach, too. The article seems to disfavor the Moshiah version. But Moshiach, Mashiach is acceptable.
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Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Thank you, Todah..

Yes, Mashiach will bring peace to the world. It is why Christians are so angry, confused today. Jesus has not brought them the peace, security, safety. Christianity has not proven itself to be a problem solver.

Obviously, Messiah is not here yet, or else we'd be living in a better utopia, a better world.
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Christians, quit calling this Political leader the Anti Christ ! He will rebuild the temple, yes, the Beit Hamikdash. It does not mean he is the Anti Christ.
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Look Apollo,

it´s an abomination to rebuilt the Temple ouf of stones. Get it. The Temple is the body of the Son of man, 2000 years and counting. The Word made flesh.



Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake,

although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Jeremiah 31:31-34
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Christians, quit calling this Political leader the Anti Christ ! He will rebuild the temple, yes, the Beit Hamikdash. It does not mean he is the Anti Christ.
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in your opinion that is... in mine, he is the very definition of the anti-christ. an no, i'm no fundi... i just see "the strange gods of judiasm" for what they are... the fallen ones.
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Apollo, many thousands of "Jews" immediately
believed in Jesus as His Life was occuring.
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This thread has nothing to do with the one in many.... Jesus is a bridge within and without... Although this thread does not explain why the Jews do not believe in Jesus... It matters not... He/she is real and those who know his purpose will have the kingdom within and without
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religion will cause the fall of man...
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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Christians, quit calling this Political leader the Anti Christ ! He will rebuild the temple, yes, the Beit Hamikdash. It does not mean he is the Anti Christ.
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Look Apollo,

it´s an abomination to rebuilt the Temple ouf of stones. Get it. The Temple is the body of the Son of man, 2000 years and counting. The Word made flesh.



Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake,

although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Jeremiah 31:31-34
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That is true. It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to not molest children, not steal, not commit promiscuity, to not murder etc..while not blaming it on satan.

When the law is written in your heart, you do not need to go to church to have the Pastor tell you that its wrong to steal and murder, its a no brainer !

That is what that verse is about.

We still need the temple btw if ever TSHTF

The tabernacle, Mishkan was a sundial

I suggest to all my friends to visit the traveling tabernacle to learn of the symbols within and its meanings. Its called Messiahs Mansion and it travels the USA and sets up camp so to speak and educates people on the awesome symbolism of Gods wisdom.


SWEETNESS ! Clicked on it, it was on 888 views..

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Hmmmm...


Some interesting Jewish versus Christian teological debate going on here...


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Hmmmm...


Some interesting Jewish versus Christian teological debate going on here...


popcorn
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Christians need to realize that the Jewish people dont like their beliefs, Soccer Mom, Church Goer, says, PRAISE JAYYSSUS ! and goes to Israel to pick up her shofar horn souvenir and olive wood cross feeling the warm fuzzies

Is that what belief in Moshiach has been reduced to??? Some tourist, commercialism brag book? Staring at a fallen temple?
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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yaaa but.. the "oil" that annoints is the seed from within that's delved from the gonads.

lovemaking with orgasm omitted.... raising the "oil" up al l33 vertebrae.. 33 degrees of masonry.. 33 yrs of the mythic christ.. to the head where the pineal is baptised..

the "messiah.. is not singular..

it is PLURAL

this "process" i've described activates superpowers within the human.

no man will lead a world without super powers

you will see supermen rise in the near months.

laugh it up fuzzball..

just watch.
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Christians, quit calling this Political leader the Anti Christ ! He will rebuild the temple, yes, the Beit Hamikdash. It does not mean he is the Anti Christ.
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Look Apollo,

it´s an abomination to rebuilt the Temple ouf of stones. Get it. The Temple is the body of the Son of man, 2000 years and counting. The Word made flesh.



Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake,

although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Jeremiah 31:31-34
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


That is true. It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to not molest children, not steal, not commit promiscuity, to not murder etc..while not blaming it on satan.

When the law is written in your heart, you do not need to go to church to have the Pastor tell you that its wrong to steal and murder, its a no brainer !

That is what that verse is about.

We still need the temple btw if ever TSHTF

The tabernacle was a sundial


OH SWEETNESS ! Clicked on it, it was on 888 views..


 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


... "in their inward parts", not just their hearts. I am not going into details but you know little about. Do believe it is wrong trying to do the same as their forefathers and hoping in a different outcome. According Einstein such behaviour comes equal to insanity. LOL
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Apollo you are wrong here.
You are attributing the anti-christ as a christ.

Anyone with an ounce of discernment can clearly see through this.
In the last days, even the elect will be deceived.
And, woe to those who would call evil good and good evil.

Jesus is the Christ.
He never said he was bringing an 'utopia'.
He said, 'I come bringing a sword.p
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

[link to www.jewfaq.org]
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ok, so 'masiach' is then the anointed king of the jewish people?

or has a more universal scope?
you know that the current era spread over the last 30.000 years and all religion of the era are based on the Same Original Teaching. Today's religions kept more or less faithfully the Original Teaching which was originated by the Avatar of the Age, which goes by many names in different cultures. He will also preside the end of the era and the beginning of the next.

"Are there religions and communities in the East which accept the Teaching about Maitreya? The Bodhisattva Maitreya was promised to the world as the coming Buddha by Gautama himself. This is the reason why the Hinayana also accepts this one Bodhisattva. Maitreya corresponds to the Kalki Avatar in Hinduism (the "White Horse Avatar" - see the Revelation of St. John), and to the Messiahs of all nations. All the Messiahs are inevitably Avatars of Vishnu; therefore, they belong to One Ego. In the exoteric legends the difference between Maitreya and the Kalki Avatar is that while the Kalki Avatar will appear at the end of the present Kali Yuga for the final destruction of the wicked, the renovation of humanity and "the restoration of purity," Maitreya is expected earlier"

"Now you will understand how sacredly rings the name of Maitreya or Kalki Avatar of Muntazar in the hearts of the East. Indeed, all religions rotate around this one concept of the Avatar and the coming Messiah. This faith, or rather straight-knowledge, is that fire which keeps and nourishes the spiritual life of our planet. Extinguish this fire, and the planet will sink into the darkness of destruction. Verily, there is nothing more vital, more powerful and beautiful than this concept of the Great Avatar. All the prophecies, all the visions, and all the most ancient and sacred legends of all nations hide under different symbols and allegories a great Book of Lives of the Greatest One, who fights with the apocalyptic Serpent. "

""People will ask: 'Who is greater, Christ or Buddha?' Answer: 'It is impossible to measure the far-off worlds. We can only be enraptured by their radiance.'" Verily, compared to us Earth-dwellers, Christ and Buddha are indeed far-off stars of the Spirit. Let us remember that They, and also the Lord Maitreya, came from Venus at the dawn of the formation of physical man, therefore They are our Divine Forefathers and Masters."

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The Mashiach

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.

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He will win battles for Israel and bring peace ?!

You mean with war ?!
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Apollo, many thousands of "Jews" immediately
believed in Jesus as His Life was occuring.
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RD professor. please look around. Where is the peace and security? Where is the homes and abundant food? Actually , here in the USA comes pretty close. The Masonic Forefathers thought that USA was to be the New Jerusalem.

The way we are headed now though , I have doubts. Peoples moral choices have been pretty lacking, esp the porn and greed and materialism and backstabbing and immorality even amongst the christian churches esp.

God can take away his blessings from a nation anytime as he did Israel to chastise them. This discipline was meant to bring them back into trusting him.
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The Mashiach

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.

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He will win battles for Israel and bring peace ?!

You mean with war ?!
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I was touchy to include that qoute considering all thats going on in the Middle East right now.
I am a man of peace and as a American, I live next to all people, Muslims and Christians here were coordinating together a care package drive.

Americans have a different attitude but that would correct as Jewish belief.. Moshiach is a Soldier King.
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


ok, so 'masiach' is then the anointed king of the jewish people?

or has a more universal scope?
you know that the current era spread over the last 30.000 years and all religion of the era are based on the Same Original Teaching. Today's religions kept more or less faithfully the Original Teaching which was originated by the Avatar of the Age, which goes by many names in different cultures. He will also preside the end of the era and the beginning of the next.

"Are there religions and communities in the East which accept the Teaching about Maitreya? The Bodhisattva Maitreya was promised to the world as the coming Buddha by Gautama himself. This is the reason why the Hinayana also accepts this one Bodhisattva. Maitreya corresponds to the Kalki Avatar in Hinduism (the "White Horse Avatar" - see the Revelation of St. John), and to the Messiahs of all nations. All the Messiahs are inevitably Avatars of Vishnu; therefore, they belong to One Ego. In the exoteric legends the difference between Maitreya and the Kalki Avatar is that while the Kalki Avatar will appear at the end of the present Kali Yuga for the final destruction of the wicked, the renovation of humanity and "the restoration of purity," Maitreya is expected earlier"

"Now you will understand how sacredly rings the name of Maitreya or Kalki Avatar of Muntazar in the hearts of the East. Indeed, all religions rotate around this one concept of the Avatar and the coming Messiah. This faith, or rather straight-knowledge, is that fire which keeps and nourishes the spiritual life of our planet. Extinguish this fire, and the planet will sink into the darkness of destruction. Verily, there is nothing more vital, more powerful and beautiful than this concept of the Great Avatar. All the prophecies, all the visions, and all the most ancient and sacred legends of all nations hide under different symbols and allegories a great Book of Lives of the Greatest One, who fights with the apocalyptic Serpent. "

""People will ask: 'Who is greater, Christ or Buddha?' Answer: 'It is impossible to measure the far-off worlds. We can only be enraptured by their radiance.'" Verily, compared to us Earth-dwellers, Christ and Buddha are indeed far-off stars of the Spirit. Let us remember that They, and also the Lord Maitreya, came from Venus at the dawn of the formation of physical man, therefore They are our Divine Forefathers and Masters."
 Quoting: andreidita


Yes,

there is MESSIAH in Christianity and Catholicism
MAITREYA the Great Teacher in Buddhism
MAHDI in Islam
And MOSHIAH/MASHIACH in Judaism.
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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the jewish messiah is not a warrior king in the typical sense they expect, he is a spiritual king. HER works have very little to do in earthly duties...they are much deeper than this. Remember, ALL matter matters. The essenes knew of this.

There will be many jewish kings appointed over the next few years....
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RD professor. please look around. Where is the peace and security? Where is the homes and abundant food? Actually , here in the USA comes pretty close. The Masonic Forefathers thought that USA was to be the New Jerusalem.

The way we are headed now though , I have doubts. Peoples moral choices have been pretty lacking, esp the porn and greed and materialism and backstabbing and immorality even amongst the christian churches esp.

God can take away his blessings from a nation anytime as he did Israel to chastise them. This discipline was meant to bring them back into trusting him.
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New Jerusalem is bestowed in Spirit.
the masonic forefathers were surely well intended, but it takes more than good intention and human effort to build the New Jerusalem.

and as United States started upon the blood of the natives, the corner stone was flawed from the beginning. And as an effect you have what you perceive today.
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Did Jesus believe in himself?
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... He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. ...
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Yes, Mashiach will bring peace to the world. ...
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How is he going to bring peace to the world by fighting battles? War is peace, freedom is slavery? You religious people really don't think much, do you?
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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the jewish messiah is not a warrior king in the typical sense they expect, he is a spiritual king. HER works have very little to do in earthly duties...they are much deeper than this. Remember, ALL matter matters. The essenes knew of this.

There will be many jewish kings appointed over the next few years....
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"Her" works? can you elaborate?
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The Mashiach

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.

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He will win battles for Israel and bring peace ?!

You mean with war ?!
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I was touchy to include that qoute considering all thats going on in the Middle East right now.
I am a man of peace and as a American, I live next to all people, Muslims and Christians here were coordinating together a care package drive.

Americans have a different attitude but that would correct as Jewish belief.. Moshiach is a Soldier King.
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RD professor. please look around. Where is the peace and security? Where is the homes and abundant food? Actually , here in the USA comes pretty close. The Masonic Forefathers thought that USA was to be the New Jerusalem.

The way we are headed now though , I have doubts. Peoples moral choices have been pretty lacking, esp the porn and greed and materialism and backstabbing and immorality even amongst the christian churches esp.

God can take away his blessings from a nation anytime as he did Israel to chastise them. This discipline was meant to bring them back into trusting him.
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New Jerusalem is bestowed in Spirit.
the masonic forefathers were surely well intended, but it takes more than good intention and human effort to build the New Jerusalem.

and as United States started upon the blood of the natives, the corner stone was flawed from the beginning. And as an effect you have what you perceive today.
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The blood of natives was not all Hollywood, Dancing with Wolves, Please do not think life was like Kevin Coster..

They had a harsh lifestyle, Many Indians died young. They had to migrate to find food and get away from the harsh winters.
Other tribes were in constant warfare, Prisoners of war was shown no mercy. You lived in constant fear and fight for your life and many woman died in child birth.

Life as a American Indian was not handsome Kevin Costner on the plains making love to a pretty woman. Life was stinky, harsh and dangerous.
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Did Jesus believe in himself?
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