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Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.

 
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I bet Sodom and Gomorrah were actually very nice places to live. Utopian and far more advanced than Abraham and his marauding nomadic hoard. So God told him to destroy those City's, same "God" also tells him to kill his son and cut the end from his own penis. Call me crazy but that seems to be his excuse for everything. Then after Chief Nip & Tuck we get Solomon and his Blood cults an basically Jews, Chritians and Muzzies have been dashing their altars with each others blood ever since. Talk about fucked up, Do you see Dharmic, Taoic or Pagan religions behaving like this? well, some of the Chinese are way out of Order, exception that proves the rule IMO.
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LOL. youve been reading too much R. Crumb comics..
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pfft, yea, Apollo. Just screwing about. Little bit of truth in what i say though. ;)
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You read his stuff? It is kinda funny. Some Lucifer, Liberation front makes funny comics too esp on the Vesica Vulva emblem the Christians put on their cars so proudly.

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apollo...

what do you think it meant when jc said he was the lord of the sabbath?
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From what I know, both Christians and Muslims are wanabe Jews. They both keep telling the Jews to accept the guy they have picked as their messiah. But the Jews are like, why? He did not fulfill his promises to us so how can we pick him?

Its like I order a burger and two people keep bringing me salad after salad and try to shove it down my throat.

But I ordered a burger.
Ya ya we know but look at this salad. It died for you. (Christians)
But again, I ordered a burger people.
Ya ya, shut it now. This is the last salad. Accept it! (Muslims)


Only Jews should be the ones to pick their messiah. Both Christains and Muslims should stop shoving their messiah into Jews' throats already.

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I got pissed too when they lessened the fries and added apples in the American happy meals, LOL !!

That is true, Make it fit, force it to fit. Worked at the Council of Nicaea.

The Cult of Mithras transformed .
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how you like my new avatar,its the Golden SunSet,lol
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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This is precisly why that stolen land in Palistine was not sanctioned by God. It was sanctioned by the Godless 'bank owned' United Nations.
God is not responsible for that mostly secular nation that robbed, stole and killed to take that land. They are of their father the devil.
No one can convince me that this Israel is of God, as they operate like their father, the Devil.
It saddens me to see the deceived organized church support the zionist effort of this fake Israel (or jews, Rev 2:9, 3:9).
I witness daily, devout Christians cheer on the slaughter of innocent civilians being carried out by these people, as they exhibit no sentiment whatsoever for the Palestinians. We have been socially engineered to view these people (the Palestinians) as animals deserving of slaughter.
Christians shoud have no enemies, as we are to be strengthened by our humility. Even if Israel was acting properly, Christians should be at the forefront of a resolution to preserve life. We should never serve as a cheering section for the entity that has the extreme advantage. I have yet to see a suffering Jew, they just don't exist. If they can't do well in Israel, all they need to do is come to the good ole US of A, their financial playground (hell for everyone else).

God said that he would bring Israel (the true Hebrews) together in Deuteromony 30(KJV)

30 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee.

4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:


God never said he would drop hash and heroin on the Turkish army during WWI, as the British army did prior to stealing Palestine. The Brits made a deal with the Banksters whose newly formed Federal Reserve Bank, 1913, enabled the Banksters to front US taxpayer dollars to the Brits so they could defeat the German Army, who was dominating the war at that time. The deal was that the Brits deliver Palestine to the U.N. and they did. Oh, and uh...the Brits never paid that money back to the US tax payers, they weren't required to.

God has no ivolvement in the evil affairs of the mostly secular state of Israel. So, the Church needs to study scripture in more detail, and make sense of all that is going in this world. Most of all, we are to have compasion and know history, before we blame the victim.
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Jesus wasthe true messiah because he was annointed by the holy spirit.
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He may have been a messaih of the Christians but not t he Jews. He did NOTHING the Jews were promised their messiah would do.
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That is true..He didnt fulfill the prophecies.
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There are two sets of prophecies in the OT about Jesus, his first coming as a lamb to the slaughter and his second coming as a king.
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I bet Sodom and Gomorrah were actually very nice places to live. Utopian and far more advanced than Abraham and his marauding nomadic hoard. So God told him to destroy those City's, same "God" also tells him to kill his son and cut the end from his own penis. Call me crazy but that seems to be his excuse for everything. Then after Chief Nip & Tuck we get Solomon and his Blood cults an basically Jews, Chritians and Muzzies have been dashing their altars with each others blood ever since. Talk about fucked up, Do you see Dharmic, Taoic or Pagan religions behaving like this? well, some of the Chinese are way out of Order, exception that proves the rule IMO.
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According to the Sumerian Texts, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in a battle between the 'Gods' and their human followers in a battle for supremacy over the Earth. These ancient Cities suffered the first example on Earth of what is described as nuclear explosions. I won't drag you into a long explanation here but it is worth researching since there has been recent geographical anomalies discovered around that region that confirms strange markings on soil & rocks that show scorching made by sudden blast of intense heat.
Many ancient texts tell of the 'Gods' powerful & horrific weapons.
And of course we have an excellent example of how history repeats itself, they're called Hiroshima, & Nagasaki.
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Jesus wasthe true messiah because he was annointed by the holy spirit.
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He may have been a messaih of the Christians but not t he Jews. He did NOTHING the Jews were promised their messiah would do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


That is true..He didnt fulfill the prophecies.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


There are two sets of prophecies in the OT about Jesus, his first coming as a lamb to the slaughter and his second coming as a king.
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there isnt a old testament,there's nothing new under the sun...count the number of the beast if you have understanding..1 testament,2 testament...all creations are beasts,the bible is a beast if you dont subdue the words with your spirit...666 chapters from the end of the beast to psalms 46..count the 46th word down,then count the 46th word from the end,dont count the herbrew word selah and then face palm your self...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Friends, Im really tired, pooped, I have to take a break right now and finish up some work. There might be replies or casualties of no responses. I might not get to or Ill get to later. I thank you all for a successful great post and I wish you all Shalom !

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I bet Sodom and Gomorrah were actually very nice places to live. Utopian and far more advanced than Abraham and his marauding nomadic hoard. So God told him to destroy those City's, same "God" also tells him to kill his son and cut the end from his own penis. Call me crazy but that seems to be his excuse for everything. Then after Chief Nip & Tuck we get Solomon and his Blood cults an basically Jews, Chritians and Muzzies have been dashing their altars with each others blood ever since. Talk about fucked up, Do you see Dharmic, Taoic or Pagan religions behaving like this? well, some of the Chinese are way out of Order, exception that proves the rule IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19904760

According to the Sumerian Texts, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in a battle between the 'Gods' and their human followers in a battle for supremacy over the Earth. These ancient Cities suffered the first example on Earth of what is described as nuclear explosions. I won't drag you into a long explanation here but it is worth researching since there has been recent geographical anomalies discovered around that region that confirms strange markings on soil & rocks that show scorching made by sudden blast of intense heat.
Many ancient texts tell of the 'Gods' powerful & horrific weapons.
And of course we have an excellent example of how history repeats itself, they're called Hiroshima, & Nagasaki.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15916981


[link to www.foxnews.com]

or search google for sodom and gomorrah destroyed by asteriod, and this Sumerian clay tablet that recorded the trajectory of the asteriod. June 29 in the year 3123 B.C.
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I bet Sodom and Gomorrah were actually very nice places to live. Utopian and far more advanced than Abraham and his marauding nomadic hoard. So God told him to destroy those City's, same "God" also tells him to kill his son and cut the end from his own penis. Call me crazy but that seems to be his excuse for everything. Then after Chief Nip & Tuck we get Solomon and his Blood cults an basically Jews, Chritians and Muzzies have been dashing their altars with each others blood ever since. Talk about fucked up, Do you see Dharmic, Taoic or Pagan religions behaving like this? well, some of the Chinese are way out of Order, exception that proves the rule IMO.
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According to the Sumerian Texts, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in a battle between the 'Gods' and their human followers in a battle for supremacy over the Earth. These ancient Cities suffered the first example on Earth of what is described as nuclear explosions. I won't drag you into a long explanation here but it is worth researching since there has been recent geographical anomalies discovered around that region that confirms strange markings on soil & rocks that show scorching made by sudden blast of intense heat.
Many ancient texts tell of the 'Gods' powerful & horrific weapons.
And of course we have an excellent example of how history repeats itself, they're called Hiroshima, & Nagasaki.
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who speaks sumerian to translate the texts..without a pronunciation key .no text can be translated...use your critical thinking...the lies are wayyyyyy bigger than you think...the ruins and human remains were set up and then histories were written for them..there's no general population of millions or their hundreds of millions of personal artifacts to be found...histories have been done just as hollywood sets up its movies...the lies are soooooooooooo big,most just buy the bullshit stories...no general population burial sites no where...and that lie of 'they only preserved the rulers' causes you to forget all it takes to make a civilization FLOURISH and its remains of FLOURISHING civilizations with millions of people..if they can find some remains,most of the remains and artifacts should be accountable for..

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Making fun of someone's name is childish.

You know... if God didn't want us to say the word 'Jesus', then he shouldn't have confused the languages to begin with.

Besides... Billions of people throughout history have prayed to the name 'Jesus' and have had their prayers answered. I'm one of them.

What happened to you Apollo? You used to call yourself 'Christian' in your older threads.

We can make fun of 'Annointed' too. It means Crisco Oil. Ha ha.

So:

Moshiac = Anointed = Oil
Jesus = Pig = Bacon

Bacon + Oil = Breakfast = "Morning Star" Sandwich at Carl's Jr.

whatever

This thread is majorly depressing. I thought Moshiac was a simple, humble, meek man of peace... not war. I thought that's why he hides... because he doesn't want to harm anyone... like a Gentle Giant... and he's super intelligent and it causes frustration for him. Many of The Nobody threads had good archetype theories like that.

Now he's some Uber General like "Betray-Us"? In charge of CIA...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Disgusting.

So to summarize:

Christ = Peace
Moshiac = War

Complete opposites. No wonder people call him Anti-Christ.

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I bet Sodom and Gomorrah were actually very nice places to live. Utopian and far more advanced than Abraham and his marauding nomadic hoard. So God told him to destroy those City's, same "God" also tells him to kill his son and cut the end from his own penis. Call me crazy but that seems to be his excuse for everything. Then after Chief Nip & Tuck we get Solomon and his Blood cults an basically Jews, Chritians and Muzzies have been dashing their altars with each others blood ever since. Talk about fucked up, Do you see Dharmic, Taoic or Pagan religions behaving like this? well, some of the Chinese are way out of Order, exception that proves the rule IMO.
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According to the Sumerian Texts, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in a battle between the 'Gods' and their human followers in a battle for supremacy over the Earth. These ancient Cities suffered the first example on Earth of what is described as nuclear explosions. I won't drag you into a long explanation here but it is worth researching since there has been recent geographical anomalies discovered around that region that confirms strange markings on soil & rocks that show scorching made by sudden blast of intense heat.
Many ancient texts tell of the 'Gods' powerful & horrific weapons.
And of course we have an excellent example of how history repeats itself, they're called Hiroshima, & Nagasaki.
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Yea, according to the Mahabharata. But i think that was actually much much earlier in the same place.
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probably about 15,000 years earlier
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how you like my new avatar,its the Golden SunSet,lol
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It's upside-down... like your name "Grand Architect" spelled backwards.

So instead of a Grand Architect... you're the opposite

And your AV... means 'Hanged Man'.

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I think the Bhagvad Gita is about 30,000 yrs old. Even the oldest story in the bible is about 6,000
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I'm sure Abraham was heavily inspired by the tales of the Bagvad Ghita in describing his victory as a vengeful act of G-d. But whats more likely is that they pillaged and plundered setting fire to buildings and shit.
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I bet Sodom and Gomorrah were actually very nice places to live. Utopian and far more advanced than Abraham and his marauding nomadic hoard. So God told him to destroy those City's, same "God" also tells him to kill his son and cut the end from his own penis. Call me crazy but that seems to be his excuse for everything. Then after Chief Nip & Tuck we get Solomon and his Blood cults an basically Jews, Chritians and Muzzies have been dashing their altars with each others blood ever since. Talk about fucked up, Do you see Dharmic, Taoic or Pagan religions behaving like this? well, some of the Chinese are way out of Order, exception that proves the rule IMO.
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here is a sample of it in the book of jasher:

1 And the cities of Sodom had four judges to four cities, and these were their names, Serak in the city of Sodom, Sharkad in Gomorrah, Zabnac in Admah, and Menon in Zeboyim.

2 And Eliezer Abraham's servant applied to them different names, and he converted Serak to Shakra, Sharkad to Shakrura, Zebnac to Kezobim, and Menon to Matzlodin.

3 And by desire of their four judges the people of Sodom and Gomorrah had beds erected in the streets of the cities, and if a man came to these places they laid hold of him and brought him to one of their beds, and by force made him to lie in them.

4 And as he lay down, three men would stand at his head and three at his feet, and measure him by the length of the bed, and if the man was less than the bed these six men would stretch him at each end, and when he cried out to them they would not answer him.

5 And if he was longer than the bed they would draw together the two sides of the bed at each end, until the man had reached the gates of death.

6 And if he continued to cry out to them, they would answer him, saying, Thus shall it be done to a man that cometh into our land.

7 And when men heard all these things that the people of the cities of Sodom did, they refrained from coming there.

8 And when a poor man came to their land they would give him silver and gold, and cause a proclamation in the whole city not to give him a morsel of bread to eat, and if the stranger should remain there some days, and die from hunger, not having been able to obtain a morsel of bread, then at his death all the people of the city would come and take their silver and gold which they had given to him.

9 And those that could recognize the silver or gold which they had given him took it back, and at his death they also stripped him of his garments, and they would fight about them, and he that prevailed over his neighbor took them.

10 They would after that carry him and bury him under some of the shrubs in the deserts; so they did all the days to any one that came to them and died in their land.

11 And in the course of time Sarah sent Eliezer to Sodom, to see Lot and inquire after his welfare.

12 And Eliezer went to Sodom, and he met a man of Sodom fighting with a stranger, and the man of Sodom stripped the poor man of all his clothes and went away.

13 And this poor man cried to Eliezer and supplicated his favor on account of what the man of Sodom had done to him.

14 And he said to him, Why dost thou act thus to the poor man who came to thy land?

15 And the man of Sodom answered Eliezer, saying, Is this man thy brother, or have the people of Sodom made thee a judge this day, that thou speakest about this man?

16 And Eliezer strove with the man of Sodom on account of the poor man, and when Eliezer approached to recover the poor man's clothes from the man of Sodom, he hastened and with a stone smote Eliezer in the forehead.

17 And the blood flowed copiously from Eliezer's forehead, and when the man saw the blood he caught hold of Eliezer, saying, Give me my hire for having rid thee of this bad blood that was in thy forehead, for such is the custom and the law in our land.
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Messianic Jews & some other sects do believe in Yeshua.
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meh, propaganda.

The City they talk about in the Mahabharata is more equivalent to Babylon than Sodom and Gomorrah. This was in the time of Sumeria, the second age of men after Atlantis. Sumeria fell with Babylon at the hands of Alien Lords. Sodom and Gomorrah was burned to the ground in the fourth age
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apollo...

what do you think it meant when jc said he was the lord of the sabbath?
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nice timing on taking a break...

ok, i'll give my hypothesis.

it's been postulated that there are 3 suns in this solar system. the sun, saturn and jupiter. saturn and jupiter are burned out while the sun shines.

the juice love saturn. he's the RULER with the RULES. he's the landLORD he's also KRONOS (father time) who's fond of eating his children. gov agents love saturn too. they all love saturday. he's associated with the north pole, just as santa and mrs claws. in the OLD OLD OLD days, ages and ages ago, saturn was THE sun in this solar system. it shined on the north pole and made a purple, hazy, constant twilight.

that's why under the tundra of the north pole there is evidence of tropical vegitation. the land there is shaped like a donut or torus (taurus?). anyway, a long long long time ago - it was the only place to be. ..even now. the gov won't drill for all the oil up there because they're still hoping to get to move up there and live in their purple paradise. they'd rather suck the oil out of the MIDDLE EAST. they prefer to KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN for that rather than get the oil in the arctic circle.

but, alas...something happened and it got wiped out.

someone had to repopulate, so a remnant was left over (a flood perhaps?) who knows??

anyway....fast forward a few thousand years.

the juice are in jerusalem, worshipping saturn every week.

then, along comes the SUN. and he says 'hey you dolts - don't you know I'M the guy who's up in the sky NOW? i'm the lord of saturn (because i'm the guy with the fire). i can set you free from your landLORD. it's easy!

but, alas, the juice loved their rules more than they loved anything so they had to hatch a plan...(even though their original plan which included killing LITTLE CHILDREN to prevent him from coming already failed).

so, the juice (maybe they knew this, maybe they didn't) say....hmmm we have to KILL this guy. and MAYBE they thought that if they killed him, he would stop shining and saturn would get relit? i dunno about that but maybe.

nonetheless, they whack the SUN and say he's the SON (kronos strikes again) then they wait for the SUN to stop shining and saturn to light up again maybe? again - i dunno.

BUT.....they scroood up. the SUN kept shining and all they managed to do was plunge the entire world into the dark ages. now they sit in israel after they've broken all their own rules knowing that it's ending for them but still hoping, and praying to satan (sorry...scratch that...santa) that they'll get their paradise back.

and now their only hope is that the SUN will come back and save their sorry asses. shove that lol the SUN says.

that's my hypothesis and i would LOVE to hear what 'mr. astro-theology' has to say about it.
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Yeshua, the cannanite mediatrix to El. Incarnation of Baal.

Asherah, Ashteroh. Asteroth lineage. Thing is i don't think she listens to them. Infact i know She doesn't listen.
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2000 years ago many Jews did accept their Messiah. Early Christianity was very Jewish. Today some orthodox Jews also away an Messiah, having misunderstood but still believe this is to be fulfilled.

So you just have some who are in denial today.

Messiah does mean anointed meaning this was a human born man yet anointed by God, no ordinary man. Other verses make clear a coming savior was to end the sacrificial system, which is what happened!
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Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

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I think the Bhagvad Gita is about 30,000 yrs old. Even the oldest story in the bible is about 6,000
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Hinduism came out of Babylon region of Sumeria which was founded by Noah's sons in the Land of Kish so named after Cush. But this is another subject.
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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Actually the concept came way before Christians in the old testament.

Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering
for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.

Lord thank you Jesus Amen.
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Re: Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.
The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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I am sorry, but everything you have posted has no bearing on whether Yahushua was or was not Mashiach. That is because the definition of what the Mashiach is and who he would be has changed since the 1st Century due to the destruction of the Second Temple and the rise of Talmudic Judaism.
The rabanim did this to discredit Christianity and try to hold on to their power base in the Jewish community after the twin disasters of the Great Revolt of 66 and the Bar Kokhba Revolt under Hadrian, when Reb Akiva anointed Simon ben Kosiba as Mashiach, even going so far as to doctor the calendar in order to make the prophesies fit bar Kozeba, when they had actually pertained to the early 1st Century, the time of Yahushua. The result is that modern Judaism has a false idea of the Mashiach, which is not what people were expecting before the destruction of the Temple.
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OT prophecies about the coming Messiah fulfilled by Jesus

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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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Zechariah 12
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
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Re: Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.
The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

[link to www.jewfaq.org]
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Zechariah 12
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
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Proverbs 30:4

Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the wind?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is the name of his son?
Surely you know!



Rejoice and thank God for his son.