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Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.

 
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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how you like my new avatar,its the Golden SunSet,lol
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


It's upside-down... like your name "Grand Architect" spelled backwards.

So instead of a Grand Architect... you're the opposite

And your AV... means 'Hanged Man'.

slaphim
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opposite of golden dawn is golden sunset,west is opposite of east..another one who haven't 'catch the coda' yet,and become a flying serpent..vril

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Making fun of someone's name is childish.

You know... if God didn't want us to say the word 'Jesus', then he shouldn't have confused the languages to begin with.

Besides... Billions of people throughout history have prayed to the name 'Jesus' and have had their prayers answered. I'm one of them.

What happened to you Apollo? You used to call yourself 'Christian' in your older threads.

We can make fun of 'Annointed' too. It means Crisco Oil. Ha ha.

So:

Moshiac = Anointed = Oil
Jesus = Pig = Bacon

Bacon + Oil = Breakfast = "Morning Star" Sandwich at Carl's Jr.

whatever

This thread is majorly depressing. I thought Moshiac was a simple, humble, meek man of peace... not war. I thought that's why he hides... because he doesn't want to harm anyone... like a Gentle Giant... and he's super intelligent and it causes frustration for him. Many of The Nobody threads had good archetype theories like that.

Now he's some Uber General like "Betray-Us"? In charge of CIA...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Disgusting.

So to summarize:

Christ = Peace
Moshiac = War

Complete opposites. No wonder people call him Anti-Christ.

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Making fun of someone's name is childish.

You know... if God didn't want us to say the word 'Jesus', then he shouldn't have confused the languages to begin with.

Besides... Billions of people throughout history have prayed to the name 'Jesus' and have had their prayers answered. I'm one of them.

What happened to you Apollo? You used to call yourself 'Christian' in your older threads.

We can make fun of 'Annointed' too. It means Crisco Oil. Ha ha.

So:

Moshiac = Anointed = Oil
Jesus = Pig = Bacon

Bacon + Oil = Breakfast = "Morning Star" Sandwich at Carl's Jr.

whatever

This thread is majorly depressing. I thought Moshiac was a simple, humble, meek man of peace... not war. I thought that's why he hides... because he doesn't want to harm anyone... like a Gentle Giant... and he's super intelligent and it causes frustration for him. Many of The Nobody threads had good archetype theories like that.

Now he's some Uber General like "Betray-Us"? In charge of CIA...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Disgusting.

So to summarize:

Christ = Peace
Moshiac = War

Complete opposites. No wonder people call him Anti-Christ.

putin
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24482386


Dropping by just a second, Yeah ! Thats funny. Morningstar Sandwich at Carls Jr.

ROFL !

PIG MAN, ISTARTE.. Easter, haha.


Crisco oil anointing, I did some naughty things with crisco before. but never an anointing, lol
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Ill read all the responses btw, might not respond, but Ill read everything, Thanks everyone !
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The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
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Apollo, many thousands of "Jews" immediately
believed in Jesus as His Life was occuring.
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RD professor. please look around. Where is the peace and security? Where is the homes and abundant food? Actually , here in the USA comes pretty close. The Masonic Forefathers thought that USA was to be the New Jerusalem.

The way we are headed now though , I have doubts. Peoples moral choices have been pretty lacking, esp the porn and greed and materialism and backstabbing and immorality even amongst the christian churches esp.

God can take away his blessings from a nation anytime as he did Israel to chastise them. This discipline was meant to bring them back into trusting him.
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stop throwing stones
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18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

1 John 2
King James Version

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

Zechariah 12
King James Version

1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Psalm 22
King James Version

41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

Matthew 22
King James Version
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18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

1 John 2
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10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

Zechariah 12
King James Version

1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Psalm 22
King James Version

41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

Matthew 22
King James Version
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agent we got another copy machine spitting out mistranslations again..,they dont not how to re-translate them correctly from the spirits view...half of them are written from a fleshes view and mistranslated...if you wouldn't a tool you would know that..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
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roflmao,if you read my 777 thread you would be waking up..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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"we got another copy machine spitting out mistranslations again..,they dont not how to re-translate them correctly from the spirits view...half of them are written from a fleshes view and mistranslated...if you wouldn't a tool you would know that.."

That's why it's called sharper than any two-edged sword. Take note. You've just been cut to ribbons...

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Hebrews 4
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How do you guys not understand that religion is meaningless? Its like a game. Worst it is there to control the masses.
Some guys even read these books and try to emulate whats happening in there. prophecys will be fullfilled cause someone read them and played them out lol..

Most religions are mix ups of different stuff that is known since thousands of years.


Its about beeing good or bad.

If you fight then you will be fought.
If you kill then you will be killed.


This is exactly what is happening right now in palestina/israel. How can most of you be so stupid to not see this???

It will never end. No matter what guy will be king.
To end it everyone needs to forgive or everyone needs to be killed. Let not one single person of hate be alive cause he will seed a new army full of hate and everything will start again.
Otherwise this is going nowhere.
Isnt it obvious?

If you forgive then you will be forgiven.
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The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6732797
roflmao,if you read my 777 thread you would be waking up..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Foxes have holes and birds of air have nests. But your thread is its own home and not apart.

For salvation is not found in your thread but in the Son of God.
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The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
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roflmao,if you read my 777 thread you would be waking up..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Foxes have holes and birds of air have nests. But your thread is its own home and not apart.

For salvation is not found in your thread but in the Son of God.
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I see what you did there
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The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
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Is another gnostic book; koran more of the same.
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because the roman responsible;
religious son of a smith,
was crossed out of records.
replaced by an ancient myth.

"
"Not to be confused with the Christian cross." [†lol?†]

[]

"A dagger, or obelisk, † dagger, is a typographical symbol or glyph. The term "obelisk" derives from Greek;(obeliskos), which means "little obelus"; from Ancient Greek:(obelos) meaning "roasting spit".[1] It was originally represented by the ÷ symbol and was first used by the Ancient Greek scholars as critical marks in manuscripts."
"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"
"The obelisk symbolized the sun god Ra, and during the brief religious reformation of Akhenaten was said to be a petrified ray of the Aten, the sundisk. It was also thought that the god existed within the structure."

[]

"The Ancient Romans were strongly influenced by the obelisk form, to the extent that there are now more than twice as many obelisks standing in Rome as remain in Egypt. All fell after the Roman period except for the Vatican obelisk and were re-erected in different locations."

"Rome is the obelisk capital of the world. The most prominent is the 25.5 m/83.6 ft high 331 ton obelisk at Saint Peter's Square in Rome.[6] The obelisk had stood since AD 37 on its site on the wall of the Circus of Nero, flanking St Peter's Basilica:"

[and most importantly, the assyrian connection]

"The White Obelisk (named due to its colour), was discovered by Hormuzd Rassam in 1853 at Nineveh. The obelisk was erected by either Ashurnasirpal I (1050-1031 BC) or Ashurnasirpal II (883-859 BC). The obelisk bears an inscription that refers to the king’s seizure of goods, people and herds, which he carried back to the city of Ashur. The reliefs of the Obelisk depict military campaigns, hunting, victory banquets and scenes of tribute bearing.

The Rassam Obelisk, named after its discoverer Hormuzd Rassam, was found on the citadel of Nimrud (ancient Kalhu). It was erected by Ashurnasirpal II, though only survives in fragments. The surviving parts of the reliefs depict scenes of tribute bearing to the king from Syria and the west.

The Black Obelisk was discovered by Sir Austen Henry Layard in 1846 on the citadel of Kalhu. The obelisk was erected by Shalmaneser III and the reliefs depict scenes of tribute bearing as well as the depiction of two subdued rulers, Jehu the Israelite and Sua the Gilzanean, giving gestures of submission to the king. The reliefs on the obelisk have accompanying epigraphs, but besides these the obelisk also possesses a longer inscription that records one of the latest versions of Shalmaneser III’s annals, covering the period from his accessional year to his 33rd regnal year"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

cloak and dagger,
cross or obelisk.
sign of a savior
or conquest and oppression

seen any obelisks lately?
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Marduk...come out to play.

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Jesus blood is already ruling much of world, the true blood cannot rule as he is not in favour with the majority, do you understand?
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I wish that I could live in a country with zero Jews. I want there to be no Jews around me. They are nothing but trouble.
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Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Thank you, Todah..

Yes, Mashiach will bring peace to the world. It is why Christians are so angry, confused today. Jesus has not brought them the peace, security, safety. Christianity has not proven itself to be a problem solver.

Obviously, Messiah is not here yet, or else we'd be living in a better utopia, a better world.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Of course, that has nothing to do with organized religion, right? The Christian religion teaches Christians to look outside themselves for their savior. And it's within.
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...


KT good job ! Its truly what I envision happening. He will simply work his way up that way. In Judaism the ability to relate to common people and feel their pain and their heart, is vital in Moshiach

He is your everyday man, dedicated to his country, his ideals and has lived as they lived, and worked as they worked and also one who has paid for his own shortcomings. It is the beauty of Moshiach, not to be some perfect, Pedestal being, but to be a normal man anointed, one that rose above, such is the story of the early Jewish Kings like David.


:eagle1:
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I really don't think you can use the word mashiach and 'anointed' in the same sentence. You have no understanding of what it means to be anointed. It's much more than being a 'human'.
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"we got another copy machine spitting out mistranslations again..,they dont not how to re-translate them correctly from the spirits view...half of them are written from a fleshes view and mistranslated...if you wouldn't a tool you would know that.."

That's why it's called sharper than any two-edged sword. Take note. You've just been cut to ribbons...

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Hebrews 4
King James Version
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i will not be judged by no concept or do i need saving or forgiven,i as spirit know how to govern my flesh... i am spirit that exists forever whom created the religious concepts..my/our spirit within existed before they did..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
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roflmao,if you read my 777 thread you would be waking up..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Foxes have holes and birds of air have nests. But your thread is its own home and not apart.

For salvation is not found in your thread but in the Son of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851
read Romans 8:14...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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the bible is a metaphor you brainwashed sheep drinking milk from the Bulpits...you perish for lack of knowledge...read the holy spirits 777 thread and live..i have done the things the flesh called jesus did and i have done greater things as its written...ask pain doc doctor Gregory Ball of shallowford road chattnooga tenn about the day he seen the holy spirit exploded a lightbulb, after i have told him i could do it and he laughed and pissed me off..he stuttered " ya you kn know you can use that for good or bad ,dont you? i told him i already knew that...i died at age 8 and came back from the dead,i tell peoples futures good or bad,if they dont listen to me and the bad happens then they say i have a demon...ask the people around me if I'm not " spooky"..

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

[link to www.jewfaq.org]
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Apollo,
What names have you've uncovered using aramaic/hebrew gemtaria techniques for MASHIACH?
I know you must've looked!

I understand WHY you don't want to use the english word MESSIAH!

MESSIAH = 74 in simple english gematria

JESUS = 74 in simple english gematria
LUCIFER = 74 in simple english gematria

(from KJV REVELATION 22:16)
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MORNING STAR = 148 (74+74) in simple english gematria

ROOT OF DAVID = 129 Simple English Gematria
HOLY GHOST = 129 Simple english gematria
LIGHT BRINGER (meaning of latin word: LUCIFER) = 129 Simple english gematria
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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MESSIAH = 74 in simple english gematria

JESUS = 74 in simple english gematria
LUCIFER = 74 in simple english gematria

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Interesting, 47 shows us Beast
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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The problem is that they missed Mashiyach Ben Yoseph, AKA the LAMB of Elohim. This was spoken of in TaNaKh. YHVH said I shall provide the LAMB.

Gen 22:1 And it came to be after these events that Elohim tried Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.”
Gen 22:2 And He said, “Take your son, now, your only son Yitshaq, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriyah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains which I command you.”
Gen 22:3 And Aḇraham rose early in the morning and saddled his donkey, and took two of his young men with him, and Yitsḥaq his son. And he split the wood for the burnt offering, and arose and went to the place which Elohim had commanded him.
Gen 22:4 And on the third day Abraham lifted his eyes and saw the place from a distance.
Gen 22:5 So Abraham said to his young men, “Stay here with the donkey while the boy and I go over there and worship, and come back to you.”
Gen 22:6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering and laid it on Yitsḥaq his son. And he took the fire in his hand, and a knife, and the two of them went together.
Gen 22:7 And Yitshaq spoke to Abraham his father and said, “My father!” And he said, “Here I am, my son.” And he said, “See, the fire and the wood! But where is the lamb for a burnt offering?”
Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, “My son, Elohim does provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering.” And the two of them went together.

That day a RAM was provided, the LAMB was the future sacrifice for the atonement of man's fallen state. Also if you read the text, it is ALL about substitution. Also notice the phrase, take your son whom you love, YOUR ONLY SON.

Also, this took place on Mount Moriah, the exact place Yeshua was sacrificed by the nations/gentiles and Torahless elite.

Mashiyach returns as Mashiyach Ben David, the LION of the Tribe of Yehudah, and he will put ALL nations in subjection, the Temple will be RIGHT, and there will be Shalom...

YHVH be with you and ALL those that choose to FEAR YHVH, TRUST in His Mashiyach, and WALK in the Written Torah.

Eliyah Ben Yisrael
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I must make a correction, many believed Yeshua was Mashiyach, but collectively as a nation they rejected him. The original talmid of Yeshua were RIGHTEOUS TORAH observant Yehudim.
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I agree friend, that he was rejected. I assume it was because of his marital choices and his Gnostic teachings . He was more buddha like as well cause he was a pacifist at a time Israel was occupied by the Romans. Im sure this did not sit well with the Rabbinic authority who still waited for a leader to arise and shake off their yoke of bondage.

Because no one took leadership , Jerusalem was sacked by the Romans in 70 AD. The temple was destroyed and those who survived did so by running thru the underground tunnels under the temple or fleeing to the hills.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


And Yeshua predicted the sacking of Yerushalayim some 40 years before it happened.

Mat 23:28 “So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and Torahlessness.
Mat 23:29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous,
Mat 23:30 and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in the blood of the prophets.’
Mat 23:31 “Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who did murder the prophets –
Mat 23:32 and you fill up the measure of your fathers!
Mat 23:33 “Serpents, brood of adders! How would you escape the judgment of Gehenna?
Mat 23:34 “Because of this, see, I send you prophets, and wise men, and scholars of Scripture. Some of them you shall kill and impale, and some of them you shall flog in your congregations and persecute from city to city,
Mat 23:35 so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zekaryah, son of Berekyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the altar.
Mat 23:36 “Truly, I say to you, all this shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 “Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her! How often I wished to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you would not!
Mat 23:38 “See! Your house is left to you laid waste,
Mat 23:39 for I say to you, from now on you shall by no means see Me, until you say, ‘Blessed is He who is coming in the Name of YHVH!" Footnote:1 See Tehillim 118:26.

Mat 24:1 And going out, Yeshua went away from the Set-apart Place, and His taught ones came near to point out to Him the buildings of the Set-apart Place.
Mat 24:2 And Yeshua said to them, “Do you not see all these? Truly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, at all, which shall not be thrown down.”
Mat 24:3 And as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the taught ones came to Him separately, saying, “Say to us, when shall this be, and what is the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
Mat 24:4 And Yeshua answering, said to them, “Take heed that no one leads you astray.
Mat 24:5 “For many shall come in My Name, saying, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and they shall lead many astray.
Mat 24:6 “And you shall begin to hear of fightings and reports of fightings. See that you are not troubled, for these have to take place, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 “For nation shall rise against nation, and reign against reign. And there shall be scarcities of food, and deadly diseases, and earthquakes in places.
Mat 24:8 “And all these are the beginning of birth pains.

Shalom Ahki,
Eliyah Ben Yisrael
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The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.

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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST



MESSIAH = 74 in simple english gematria

JESUS = 74 in simple english gematria
LUCIFER = 74 in simple english gematria

 Quoting: SE


Interesting, 47 shows us Beast
 Quoting: 1908247


Yes it is!

something else interesting
using context of kjv REV 22:16
we see the that "JESUS" (74, 7+4=11, 1+1=2) says,
I AM the ROOT OF DAVID
If you take the phrase ROOT OF DAVID you get 129 in simple english gematria (774 old english gematria)
using the context of the phrase we check the math...
if you square root the number 129 you get 11 (and about a third (.3578) remaining)
the same as 1.1 divided by 3

Which plays to the Christian "Trinity" concept of 3 in-one
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Re: Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.
The Book of Mormon tells you exactly why Jesus is the Christ in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. If you've never read it, Apollo, you're missing a lot of the story.
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roflmao,if you read my 777 thread you would be waking up..
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Foxes have holes and birds of air have nests. But your thread is its own home and not apart.

For salvation is not found in your thread but in the Son of God.
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read Romans 8:14...
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The Spirit of Christ it is referencing. You have to put it all together, not just pick one and ignore the rest.

Romans 8:9

Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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the bible is a metaphor you brainwashed sheep drinking milk from the Bulpits...you perish for lack of knowledge...read the holy spirits 777 thread and live..i have done the things the flesh called jesus did and i have done greater things as its written...ask pain doc doctor Gregory Ball of shallowford road chattnooga tenn about the day he seen the holy spirit exploded a lightbulb, after i have told him i could do it and he laughed and pissed me off..he stuttered " ya you kn know you can use that for good or bad ,dont you? i told him i already knew that...i died at age 8 and came back from the dead,i tell peoples futures good or bad,if they dont listen to me and the bad happens then they say i have a demon...ask the people around me if I'm not " spooky"..
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Believe in the Son of God.

Everything else comes next.
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Re: Why the Jewish People Do Not Believe in Jesus. 101.
"Jesus" represents the Piscean Age sun.
"The Baptizer" represents the Aquarian Age sun.

The age of the "sun of God that fed the multitude with TWO FISH" should have prepared the way for the age of the "sun of God in the image of a man bearing water for baptism".

The CIRCLE must be UN"broken" ON EARTH (as it is in heaven).

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