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So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?

 
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
Is that about right ?
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Not unless you are reading Leftist, revised History, again!
Most original settlers found the Natives to be Friendly, they even helped the new arrivals. They lived together, but as the nature of man is, conflicts arose. European factions spurred this conflict to try to exploit it for political gain. Eventually the weaker Native tribes were dominated by the Stronger European's.
Historical Revisionists forget that the Indians had been doing this to each other for Centuries, before the White man ever set foot in America.

That is perfectly OK though, as it does not appeal to the White Guilt Syndrome, that they are affected with.

So unless you are infected with, White Guilt Syndrome yourself, do some research and get the real facts.

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Sort of the truth. But did you know that us poor stupid "Indians" could have a war and no one was killed. We had very rigid rules that must be followed. If the rules were broken, the person who broke the rules was broken. Not all wars were bloodless though, some were very bloody and hard, but those were the exception, not the rule.

White man did not save us. We didn't need saving.
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
It wasn't the Indians land.

they stole it from the earlier owners

and so on and so on.

Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land.


In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it.

End of story.
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I completely agree. In fact it is that way for every land on the earth. Somebody was always bigger tougher then someone else and took it and so on and so on through the beginning of time.
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lawds op dey stoldeded landafrican
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Calm down chief!

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Must of been taking the land back that Kennewick Man lived on, and the 9,000 year old Nevada Caucasian mummies lived on.

Nothing to see here, move along
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
I think both of you should be more well versed in actual history

There was more native on native killing for 200 years before 1776
Than the settlers could have ever matched period

Learn history before mouthing revisionist bullshit
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This is a good example of a person that is brainwashed.
"Learn history".......ahahahhhaaaaa you gotta be kiddin me friend.
If that were the case as you state, they wouldn't be living on reservations and were almost completely erradicated as people.
They had their squabbles, sure, no one is saying they did not, but to say they were not slaughtered for their land is just a good case of ignorance is bliss.
You really can't be that ignorant.....if you believe what you say, there really is no hope of you ever finding truth in many many lifetimes.......good luck with that!
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
It wasn't the Indians land.

they stole it from the earlier owners

and so on and so on.

Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land.


In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it.

End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778


I completely agree. In fact it is that way for every land on the earth. Somebody was always bigger tougher then someone else and took it and so on and so on through the beginning of time.
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Who did they take it from? Where did you get this 'his-story from? Tell us so we can educate ourselves, ok?
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One need not pray or plead to our Creator.....all one needs to do is remove the walls!


One who refuses to Self Govern can expect someone else to Govern for them!

Until you give up the idea that happiness will be found somewhere else.....the next place, the next partner, new job..... you will never be happy!
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
It wasn't the Indians land.

they stole it from the earlier owners

and so on and so on.

Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land.


In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it.

End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778


I completely agree. In fact it is that way for every land on the earth. Somebody was always bigger tougher then someone else and took it and so on and so on through the beginning of time.
 Quoting: J-Honey


Who did they take it from? Where did you get this 'his-story from? Tell us so we can educate ourselves, ok?


Sorry for hitting the clicker twice.....batting myself over the head!bonghit

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One who refuses to Self Govern can expect someone else to Govern for them!

Until you give up the idea that happiness will be found somewhere else.....the next place, the next partner, new job..... you will never be happy!
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The real story of the first Thanksgiving.

Every year around this time, most schoolchildren hear the same ol’ Thanksgiving story in their classrooms across the nation. That so-called official story is a heartwarming tale of how the Pilgrims and Native Americans shared a bountiful feast together. But it does not tell the full truth about what really happened on the Plymouth Plantation.

We’re told that the Pilgrims struggled for their survival when they landed in present-day Massachusetts in the 1620’s. Half of the Pilgrims starved to death or went back to England during the first year alone because of harsh winter weather and their lack of proper farming skills. Their chronic food shortages were ultimately resolved when the Native Americans taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn the following spring and together they celebrated their blessings with a huge feast.

That "official" story is nothing like what actually happened. For evidence of the failures of communism, we do not need to look to disastrous experiments in foreign lands. The Plymouth Plantation, one of the first English colonial ventures in North America, is actually one of the most evident examples of the failures of collectivism.

Centuries before the Communist Manifesto was even published, the Pilgrims set up an economic system that looked similar to the “utopia” advocated by Karl Marx. In the early years of the Plymouth Plantation, there was no such thing as private property. All property was held in common and it was forbidden for anyone to produce their own food. It was up to the plantation officials to distribute food and supplies to the Pilgrims based on equality and need.

The Plantation leaders showed their immense lack of knowledge regarding basic economic principles. Plymouth County Governor William Bradford wrote that, “the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing.” That clearly was not the case since the Pilgrims experienced great despair and massive food shortages for several years.

The Plymouth Plantation lacked the appropriate incentive structure. As economics Professor Benjamin Powell writes, “bad weather or lack of farming knowledge did not cause the pilgrims’ shortages. Bad economic incentives did.” Many Pilgrims faked illness or stole instead of working in the fields to produce food. William Bradford later wrote that the colony was filled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." He stated that the crops were so small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable."

William Bradford finally decided to change course by implementing a new economic system in 1623. He assigned “every family a parcel of land” to do with it as they saw fit and the results were nothing short of miraculous. For the first time in the New World, families could enjoy the fruits of their labor. While it was not a complete private property system, the move away from collectivism saved the Pilgrims. As Governor William Bradford wrote that year, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty.”

Never again did the Pilgrims face widespread starvation and food shortages. Governor William Bradford wrote that this more capitalist system "had very good success for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come…the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many." The colonists actually produced so much food in 1623 that they starting exporting corn. The Pilgrims were able to celebrate all of their blessings with plentiful feasts.

The real story of Thanksgiving shows why freedom works and collectivism doesn’t. Let us not forget the lessons of colonial America: collectivism will always fail to produce a happy and prosperous society.

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I am confused about one thing. Didn't the American Indians live in a communal community? Is that where the idea actually came from?
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
It wasn't the Indians land.

they stole it from the earlier owners

and so on and so on.

Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land.


In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it.

End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778


I completely agree. In fact it is that way for every land on the earth. Somebody was always bigger tougher then someone else and took it and so on and so on through the beginning of time.
 Quoting: J-Honey


Who did they take it from? Where did you get this 'his-story from? Tell us so we can educate ourselves, ok?


Sorry for hitting the clicker twice.....batting myself over the head!bonghit
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The Injuns were fighting each other for hunting ground rights and just for fun...they constantly stole from each other...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
Americans celebrating the murder of indigenous people, just goes to show nothing changes, a paranoid nation fullstop.
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Any different than VETERANS Day or any other?
To celebrate veterans day means to celebrate the death of those who had not gotten to the point of thinking for themselves and so they were used as pawns to go kill and be killed for their slave masters to reward themselves with the spool of another.
Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the reason they were told to go kill....its about GREED of the slave drivers and the weakness of their pawns to just believe what they are told and do not question authority.
What is that your slave driver told you??????
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
Is that about right ?
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no.

that is the politically correct version.

Europeans arrived. Found most natives to be violent and some groups to be peaceful.

they ate dinner with some peaceful ones and it became known as thanksgiving.


the violent groups numbered in the dozens across the continent and the peaceful groups were a very few.

the violent groups had been raping, stealing, warring, enslaving, cannabilizing, along with every horrid practice imaginable for GENERATIONS. The far majority of 'natives' were in a constant battle with the other groups..

the europeans wanted to migrate here...just as ALL of these 'natives' had done several thousand years ago, mostly from mongolia.

the violent natives sought to kill europeanns just like they killed each other.

europeans were had more ingenuity, skill, and intelligence ...so the 'natives' fell quickly.

the peaceful natives got caught up in the battles which were very racial...so the europeans, simply considered ALL natives as enemies and either killed them or put them on reservations.

p.s. there are many archealogical escavations that have proven that Nords / Celts settled the east coast of the U.S. at least a few thousand years before the first 'native indians' but they were fewer in number and were likely wiped out by the invading MONGOLIANS (todays native indians)

there is the true synopsis whether you like it or not.
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
I think both of you should be more well versed in actual history

There was more native on native killing for 200 years before 1776
Than the settlers could have ever matched period

Learn history before mouthing revisionist bullshit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28115964


This is a good example of a person that is brainwashed.
"Learn history".......ahahahhhaaaaa you gotta be kiddin me friend.
If that were the case as you state, they wouldn't be living on reservations and were almost completely erradicated as people.
They had their squabbles, sure, no one is saying they did not, but to say they were not slaughtered for their land is just a good case of ignorance is bliss.
You really can't be that ignorant.....if you believe what you say, there really is no hope of you ever finding truth in many many lifetimes.......good luck with that!
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tards abound
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The real story of the first Thanksgiving.

Every year around this time, most schoolchildren hear the same ol’ Thanksgiving story in their classrooms across the nation. That so-called official story is a heartwarming tale of how the Pilgrims and Native Americans shared a bountiful feast together. But it does not tell the full truth about what really happened on the Plymouth Plantation.

We’re told that the Pilgrims struggled for their survival when they landed in present-day Massachusetts in the 1620’s. Half of the Pilgrims starved to death or went back to England during the first year alone because of harsh winter weather and their lack of proper farming skills. Their chronic food shortages were ultimately resolved when the Native Americans taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn the following spring and together they celebrated their blessings with a huge feast.

That "official" story is nothing like what actually happened. For evidence of the failures of communism, we do not need to look to disastrous experiments in foreign lands. The Plymouth Plantation, one of the first English colonial ventures in North America, is actually one of the most evident examples of the failures of collectivism.

Centuries before the Communist Manifesto was even published, the Pilgrims set up an economic system that looked similar to the “utopia” advocated by Karl Marx. In the early years of the Plymouth Plantation, there was no such thing as private property. All property was held in common and it was forbidden for anyone to produce their own food. It was up to the plantation officials to distribute food and supplies to the Pilgrims based on equality and need.

The Plantation leaders showed their immense lack of knowledge regarding basic economic principles. Plymouth County Governor William Bradford wrote that, “the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing.” That clearly was not the case since the Pilgrims experienced great despair and massive food shortages for several years.

The Plymouth Plantation lacked the appropriate incentive structure. As economics Professor Benjamin Powell writes, “bad weather or lack of farming knowledge did not cause the pilgrims’ shortages. Bad economic incentives did.” Many Pilgrims faked illness or stole instead of working in the fields to produce food. William Bradford later wrote that the colony was filled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." He stated that the crops were so small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable."

William Bradford finally decided to change course by implementing a new economic system in 1623. He assigned “every family a parcel of land” to do with it as they saw fit and the results were nothing short of miraculous. For the first time in the New World, families could enjoy the fruits of their labor. While it was not a complete private property system, the move away from collectivism saved the Pilgrims. As Governor William Bradford wrote that year, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty.”

Never again did the Pilgrims face widespread starvation and food shortages. Governor William Bradford wrote that this more capitalist system "had very good success for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come…the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many." The colonists actually produced so much food in 1623 that they starting exporting corn. The Pilgrims were able to celebrate all of their blessings with plentiful feasts.

The real story of Thanksgiving shows why freedom works and collectivism doesn’t. Let us not forget the lessons of colonial America: collectivism will always fail to produce a happy and prosperous society.

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cite your references otherwise I just throw up the bsflag
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The source is William Bradford's own words. In case you didn't actually read, he was the governor of the Plymouth colony.

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Is that about right ?
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Yeah, it's the best holiday EVAR!

But wait; it gets better! Christmas is when we sellout Christ for capitol gain and then use Pagan tree-hippie worship idols in our homes.

Don't even ask about Easter...
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No, that would be Christmas since it was the Jesuits who 'stold' the land. The earlier Protestant Puritan Christians made peaceful treaty and founded Thanksgiving.

And the Jesuits are still doing more of the same today!
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Lol like the Indians weren't warlike and violent and killed each other



Laugh laugh laugh
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YEP!

At least the Aussie settlers were not so hypocrotical about it..they didnt feed the abos first..gain their trust and THEN kill em..they just up and killed em.

Better to be an honest killer..than a lying saint eh?
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Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ?
"We" did? REALLY OP? I don't remember doing that in the last 40 years. I suppose I also killed Jews, Russians, Serb, had slaves that were white and black and brown. and killed Palestinians?

DAMN....I/WE are busy! Who has time to be on the Internet then? Aren't you supposed to be off "KILLING" someone? Apparently I am too?!

wtf
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Yes.

Then a bunch of buck-toothed, low IQ dumbasses make redundant threads about their favorite foods.

You got it.
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It has evolved :)

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So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Is that about right ?
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