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FAST-GROWING SUNSPOT AR1619 - (updated) 30% chance of X-Class flares!

 
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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5 Stars, Carshy.

Interesting doom on thread.


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Thx LJS!
hugs

The ZA isn't far off now...

zombies
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Kitteh is ready!!

Zombie Kitty 2
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yes

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Revolution is a sweet show.
That is all...
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I've heard a lot about a massive solar flare in terms of its impact on electronics, but what would it do to people and other living things directly? Can anyone tell me?

Also, assuming an X class flare is heading here, how much time would we have from knowing it is coming to act?
 Quoting: Double O Zero


This! What will it do to living creatures?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7335818


It will turn off their Xboxes and iPhones.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


That wouldn't be such a bad thing....
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Hmm this doesnt look good.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


The charts on this page depict the progression of the Solar Cycle.
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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Why do you people spend so much time worrying about something you have no control over?

Maybe this is the wake up call we have all been waiting for.

Maybe it's a GOOD thing.
 Quoting: Pyractomena borealis


You may not have control over the effects of an EMP, but that is due to your lack of knowledge and motivation.

We are not all in your boat.

And yes, it may indeed be a great and wonderful thing. But I want my iPod during the Apocalypse, so I have Faraday cages and other preps.
Tell me what this tastes like...
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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Revolution is a sweet show.
 Quoting: j994k


yes
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Is there basically 100% chance of HDDs being wiped out from such a blast out of the sun?
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No, but it could fry the control electronics. The magnetic material on the platter will remain intact.

why wouldnt HDDS stored in boxes underneath by bed or in the closet be safe from the magnetism?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


It's not actually a magnetic effect at Earth-level. It's electrical, an electron storm. If your boxes are metal, and you electrically insulate the drives from the inside of the boxes, they'll work just fine.

 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


yes thanks for the insight, this makes plenty of sense. I just hope this wouldn't happen to the extent everybody is expecting...

I guess we'll have to be prepared for anything folks
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Is there basically 100% chance of HDDs being wiped out from such a blast out of the sun?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


No, but it could fry the control electronics. The magnetic material on the platter will remain intact.

why wouldnt HDDS stored in boxes underneath by bed or in the closet be safe from the magnetism?
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


It's not actually a magnetic effect at Earth-level. It's electrical, an electron storm. If your boxes are metal, and you electrically insulate the drives from the inside of the boxes, they'll work just fine.

 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


yes thanks for the insight, this makes plenty of sense. I just hope this wouldn't happen to the extent everybody is expecting...

I guess we'll have to be prepared for anything folks
 Quoting: SteamrolledGobias


Word.
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Full rotation of sun takes about 29-30 days, so this sunspot can be earth directed again. And it could be much bigger then.
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Oh fuck no!

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just about dec 21st lol
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Hopefully no big Eq's will follow!
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I've heard a lot about a massive solar flare in terms of its impact on electronics, but what would it do to people and other living things directly? Can anyone tell me?

Also, assuming an X class flare is heading here, how much time would we have from knowing it is coming to act?
 Quoting: Double O Zero


This! What will it do to living creatures?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7335818


I don't think that humans and other living creatures are affected directly by a CME (I think there could be trouble in case you have heart pacer or a defibrillator or other elctronic shit implanted in your body but that is just an assumption). Some people (here on GLP) have reported to have heat flushs or feeling kind of weird/trippy....but well, that's just GLP I guess...

Indirect effects however will be felt all over. Just imagine a world without electricity:

- no lights
- no heating
- no TV
- no radio
- no gas pumps working
- no street lights
- no cars working since all your electronics are fried
- no internet
- no phones
- no hospital service, all patients on life support dying
- no tap water
- no grocery stores
no nothing!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

damned
 Quoting: Nibibu Obungo


worst of all no Christmas....

verysad
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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Hopefully no big Eq's will follow!
 Quoting: Silverhopes 462458


Geryl's predictions:


[link to www.howtosurvive2012.com]


This was written on Oct 28th, and take a look at what he called for Nov 7-8.

November 7-8: possible 7 plus

November 13-14: 6.5 plus

November 15-16: 6.5 plus

November 20: 6 plus

November 22-23: 6.5 plus

November 28: 7

December 4-5: 7 plus

December 11: 7 plus

December 17-18: 8 plus

December 21: 10 plus"
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sun
dead3 dead3
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best use of icons ever
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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sun
dead3 dead3
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


best use of icons ever
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wink
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Not sure if this link was posted but its a direct hit


[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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When I was researching Faraday cages a while back I read that the shielding from a microwave oven works.
That is all...
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It didn't look all that big to me - relatively speaking.
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fuck all ever happens .
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SKYFALL movie is out

The show Revolution has taken off on tv

The movie Lincoln is playing in theatres

Coincidence?
 Quoting: endoftimes101


Right cause they're able to predict a solar flare months in advance.

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dapurps
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fuck all ever happens .
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I take full responsibility for saving the grid this time.

glpeffect
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OK, the sunspot is growing, but the only question that matter is: WHAT IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE IN MY LIFE??!!iamwith
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OK, the sunspot is growing, but the only question that matter is: WHAT IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE IN MY LIFE??!!iamwith
 Quoting: Sul-Americano 1063827


Geez man, read the thread.

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fuck all ever happens .
 Quoting: twat 27896466


I take full responsibility for saving the grid this time.

:glpeffect:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


The GLP effect didn't apply to Hurricane Sandy.

Hey OP

I made a thread a while back here

Thread: I've just been asked to prepare for a solar event

My dad is friends with Joseph Lawrence. They are working together on a large art deal. He's really knowledgeable about these solar flares and we have reason to believe that it will wipe out the electrical grid and be even bigger and lost longer than the carrington event.

I too have been researching the sun and after my solar flare presentation I've discovered that there is a very high chance for this kind of event to occur. Lawrence and the groups of astrophysicists he works with are saying the time window is anytime between now and next year in october that these flares will really cause some damage. There is no way to predict the immensity of these flares but you can measure them, and we have found that they are getting bigger.. and more intense. The sun itself is a raging fire giant. Far bigger than our earth and it has slowly been weakening our magnetosphere which is the reason for these aurora borealis' over in California, Maryland, other states etc.

This is a highly probable event. We highly recommend people prepare for it
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Only a few days ago, sunspot AR1618 was almost invisible. Now it is a behemoth more than 10 times wider than Earth. A movie from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory shows the sunspot's development on Nov. 20-21:

[link to spaceweather.com]

As the sunspot evolves, so does its intense magnetic field--and this means strong flares are in the offing. Fast-changing magnetic fields on the sun have a tendency to reconnect and erupt. NOAA forecasters estimate a 70% chance of M-class flares and a 15% chance of X-flares during the next 24 hours. Because of the sunspot's nearly central location on the solar disk, any eruptions will likely be Earth-directed.

[link to spaceweather.com]

ahhh
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


hmmm
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OK, the sunspot is growing, but the only question that matter is: WHAT IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE IN MY LIFE??!!iamwith
 Quoting: Sul-Americano 1063827


Geez man, read the thread.

putin
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Really for those who are uneducated about this, it is going to kill a lot who are unprepared. I mean I don't even know if you really can? Be prepared for this but I recommend knowing as much survival facts as you can.

Think about this guys. Of course NASA won't warn anyone about this on an immediate scale. They already have mentioned this vaguely. Its' not a conspiracy its just the way society is delt with.
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I'm completely ignorant when it comes to this particular subject.

What does it all really mean?
 Quoting: Debauchery


M-Class might, maybe, mess with a few satellites.
X-class WILL get you auroras and mess with cell phones.
Big X-Class is what the Carrington Event was. It can transport you back to the 18th century in a moment.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I've got my generators ready and on standby
 Quoting: sunspotkiller


ANY electronics within your generators (switches, etc.) will be fried along with mother boards, etc. (Just like the electronics in your car.) Figure out a way to build a Faraday cage of sorts or you won't have generators.
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I've heard a lot about a massive solar flare in terms of its impact on electronics, but what would it do to people and other living things directly? Can anyone tell me?

Also, assuming an X class flare is heading here, how much time would we have from knowing it is coming to act?
 Quoting: Double O Zero


This! What will it do to living creatures?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7335818


Approximately 48 hrs, but we never know exactly what to expect..
 Quoting: 1908247




An electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) caused by a solar flare (or a high altitude explosion), can arrive in minutes.
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I've heard a lot about a massive solar flare in terms of its impact on electronics, but what would it do to people and other living things directly? Can anyone tell me?

Also, assuming an X class flare is heading here, how much time would we have from knowing it is coming to act?
 Quoting: Double O Zero


This! What will it do to living creatures?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7335818


Approximately 48 hrs, but we never know exactly what to expect..
 Quoting: 1908247




An electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) caused by a solar flare (or a high altitude explosion), can arrive in minutes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293349


especially when our earths shield is down.
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fuck all ever happens .
 Quoting: twat 27896466


I take full responsibility for saving the grid this time.

:glpeffect:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


pal, simple, nothing ever gets effected in the running of everyday life, so, really, who gives a fuck? nobody, cause the lemmings are more concerned with their piddly little lives, soap operas, football and junk food; basically, the majority of the worlds non-believers.
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Professor: “Really disturbed” by recent solar flares — We could have lots Fukushima-type events around US if one causes power blackout — “All hell could break lose” (VIDEO)

[link to enenews.com]

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