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Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?

 
K.Kool

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Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.

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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far too 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.

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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
Eve, out of the rib of Adam
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail.
 Quoting: Sunyata



It's usually sitting still that brings the best results.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
one song lets sing it.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail.
 Quoting: Sunyata



It's usually sitting still that brings the best results.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Yea and whatever you do, don't lean on it.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.
 Quoting: Giftedest




Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.
 Quoting: Giftedest




Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The "Big Bang" is kindergarten BS!
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.
 Quoting: Giftedest




Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
 Quoting: K.Kool


There's no magic, everything works within the universal established laws, it's only when humans can't fathom something that they create fantastical explanations to satisfy their ignorance.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail.
 Quoting: Sunyata



It's usually sitting still that brings the best results.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Yea and whatever you do, don't lean on it.
 Quoting: Sunyata




In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you,
you will find a presence you cannot deny.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail.
 Quoting: Sunyata



It's usually sitting still that brings the best results.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Yea and whatever you do, don't lean on it.
 Quoting: Sunyata




In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you,
you will find a presence you cannot deny.
 Quoting: K.Kool


And you realize it's been there all along. amirite?
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Exactly, these questions are spiritual problems.

Whether you're attempting a scientific explanation or a esoteric one, you're still chasing your own tail.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you,
you will find a presence you cannot deny.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Yet I dare only the most fleeting a glance.
Light beyond bright, that's not light at all.
Drops you to your knees as there is nothing else you can bare do.
Weeks, it'll take to recover.
'til the next brave moment.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.
 Quoting: Giftedest




Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
 Quoting: K.Kool


There's no magic, everything works within the universal established laws, it's only when humans can't fathom something that they create fantastical explanations to satisfy their ignorance.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren



Leaps of imagination and vision surprisingly bring some great results.
These universal established laws...did they just happen too?
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Op, how do you define THE creator?
Nothing is irrelevant.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


What you're going after is "The All" meaning all that exists. If you were able to encompass all existence and be able to distinguish its nature then you could attempt to explain what you're after.

Otherwise you're just hearing voices in your head.

Last Edited by Manu-K on 11/21/2012 06:45 PM
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-- Dixon Diaz
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Creator is All-That-Is.
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It's usually sitting still that brings the best results.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Yea and whatever you do, don't lean on it.
 Quoting: Sunyata




In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you,
you will find a presence you cannot deny.
 Quoting: K.Kool


And you realize it's been there all along. amirite?
 Quoting: Sunyata




Beyond time and space.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Neither are a creation/creator, this is your own "mind" in action.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Now, THAT is the great Question!

I assume you are familiar with the work of the Thunderbolts.org website guys?

Wal Thornhill is an Ozzie, just like you, dear KK!
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Creator is All-That-Is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28127106


Yes. There is no separate Creator.

It is Everything. It is the only thing that really exists.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Exactly, these questions are spiritual problems.

Whether you're attempting a scientific explanation or a esoteric one, you're still chasing your own tail.
 Quoting: Sunyata




Chasing the truth, where science and religion meet.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
As soon as you make the concept "god" or "creator", you are putting these into a human framed concept and therefore encasing them into the limitations of the human brain.

In other words calling it "god" or "creator" or even trying to frame it into any kind of notion is an act of insult to said "god" force, right?
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Op, how do you define THE creator?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda



As God of course.
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The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Op, how do you define THE creator?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda



As God of course.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Words are meaningless, their significance it's what matters. What do you conceive God's meaning to be? If you conceive the meaning of God to refer to the human fabrications found in human religions then you're onto a fallacy.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Op, how do you define THE creator?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda



As God of course.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Thanks, how do you define YOUR God?
Nothing is irrelevant.
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Op, how do you define THE creator?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda



As God of course.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Bad bad, don't try to define anything, as soon as you do.. you are automatically wrong :D
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The Universe is the Creator, in Itself.

Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God.

To me, it is the Supreme Being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism.

So, where did this electrical energy come from?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Now, THAT is the great Question!

I assume you are familiar with the work of the Thunderbolts.org website guys?

Wal Thornhill is an Ozzie, just like you, dear KK!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913



Yeah, I like his work, but as far as I understand, he gives no originator for the energy..?
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