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Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?

 
K.Kool (OP)

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and I'm sure it pleases God, but He ultimately sees things differently, if you ignore Him, you lose the chance for eternal life

This is just religtard programming for which you have no proof whatsoever besides some claim that you "feel things" that corroborate it. I will tell you the name of those things you feel, it's called wishful thinking. It's a common occurrence when someone wishes to back up some claim for which they possess no evidence.

Remember when we were kids that we used to make shit up to tell to our friends and impress them? Well guess what, that doesn't stop when we're adults.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




More than some vague feelings and wishful thinking,
it is recorded in the Bible,
the belief in which is not programming because you are free to believe it or not.

Faith is like a train you can get on, or not, but if you don't, you cannot see and experience all that those on the train do.

When I look around at society, seems to me the conditioning to look after no1 and chase pleasure as the meaning of life
is far more insidious.
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and I'm sure it pleases God, but He ultimately sees things differently, if you ignore Him, you lose the chance for eternal life

This is just religtard programming for which you have no proof whatsoever besides some claim that you "feel things" that corroborate it. I will tell you the name of those things you feel, it's called wishful thinking. It's a common occurrence when someone wishes to back up some claim for which they possess no evidence.

Remember when we were kids that we used to make shit up to tell to our friends and impress them? Well guess what, that doesn't stop when we're adults.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




More than some vague feelings and wishful thinking,
it is recorded in the Bible,
the belief in which is not programming because you are free to believe it or not.

Faith is like a train you can get on, or not, but if you don't, you cannot see and experience all that those on the train do.

When I look around at society, seems to me the conditioning to look after no1 and chase pleasure as the meaning of life
is far more insidious.
 Quoting: K.Kool


It's written in the Bible doesn't mean it's true. There's a lot of books that have been written, the fact that you chose to put your faith in one doesn't mean anything other than you believe in that particular human creation.
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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I commonly credit "the universe" for the same things that my friends who are "religious folk" credit God for. I would not only be embarrassed to be someone who anthropomorphizes a concept that I have no reason to think is subjective to personality, but I think it's a manner of belief that belittles my view of what many call "God".
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How is there something rather than nothing.
How is there efficient/beautiful design/information content, rather than "get the job done" morphology or chaos.
It's quite amazing, being born into this cool "matrix" yet not having access to its understanding...really even in the least.
I suppose just being receptive to lessons that we can experience now, to hopefully be taken into a more aware existence that we hopefully die into, is all we can hope for.
Really, if I could even get a little insight into how the Intelligent, Creative and Loving "All There Is" overcame the totally seemingly impossible, and things and beings consequently will continue to achieve existence, despite whatever happens to me, I would be happy :)
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and I'm sure it pleases God, but He ultimately sees things differently, if you ignore Him, you lose the chance for eternal life

This is just religtard programming for which you have no proof whatsoever besides some claim that you "feel things" that corroborate it. I will tell you the name of those things you feel, it's called wishful thinking. It's a common occurrence when someone wishes to back up some claim for which they possess no evidence.

Remember when we were kids that we used to make shit up to tell to our friends and impress them? Well guess what, that doesn't stop when we're adults.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




More than some vague feelings and wishful thinking,
it is recorded in the Bible,
the belief in which is not programming because you are free to believe it or not.

Faith is like a train you can get on, or not, but if you don't, you cannot see and experience all that those on the train do.

When I look around at society, seems to me the conditioning to look after no1 and chase pleasure as the meaning of life
is far more insidious.
 Quoting: K.Kool


It's written in the Bible doesn't mean it's true. There's a lot of books that have been written, the fact that you chose to put your faith in one doesn't mean anything other than you believe in that particular human creation.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




To think the Bible is just like any other book is a bit dense, it's like calling a block of units the Taj Mahal.
Even a flick through its list of chapters shows it is much more than that.
Regardless, my point still stands, that my belief in God is more than some wishful thinking, there is a record of a long history of man's relationship with God, and many witnesses of God's interactions with us.
Reason supports it too, the belief in a spontaneous creation of the universe without a creator, out of nothing, is plainly illogical.
It's been interesting arguing with you though, lol,
we will have to agree to disagree,
it would be even more interesting if we could compare notes on what happens to us, as we keep moving through these world-changing times.
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God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.
 Quoting: Giftedest




Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The "Big Bang" is kindergarten BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913


first lets look at the typical artist rendition of big bang
[link to nothingoutofnothing.files.wordpress.com]

now lets look at a typical spore print and deduce what we see in it.
[link to ts1.mm.bing.net]

thus the creation of matter with white overlaying black. white contains the full spectrum of color,sound,dimension..etc. and we know it is of positive polarity dominance. a spore print carries the alpha and omega and survives the vacuum of space.

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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I commonly credit "the universe" for the same things that my friends who are "religious folk" credit God for. I would not only be embarrassed to be someone who anthropomorphizes a concept that I have no reason to think is subjective to personality, but I think it's a manner of belief that belittles my view of what many call "God".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27317240



Ok, I'll let you,
call the universe a concept,
to me, the universe is real.
K.Kool (OP)

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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
God is a euphemism for "the universe".

"The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp.

"God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey.

Whatever works.
 Quoting: Giftedest




Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The "Big Bang" is kindergarten BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913


first lets look at the typical artist rendition of big bang
[link to nothingoutofnothing.files.wordpress.com]

now lets look at a typical spore print and deduce what we see in it.
[link to ts1.mm.bing.net]

thus the creation of matter with white overlaying black. white contains the full spectrum of color,sound,dimension..etc. and we know it is of positive polarity dominance. a spore print carries the alpha and omega and survives the vacuum of space.
 Quoting: Perseus7




It all goes back to the question of consciousness.

If the universe was created from an unconscious act,
how did consciousness come to be part of it?
Evolution...? Is consciousness a mutant gene that just came into being somehow?
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Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The "Big Bang" is kindergarten BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913


first lets look at the typical artist rendition of big bang
[link to nothingoutofnothing.files.wordpress.com]

now lets look at a typical spore print and deduce what we see in it.
[link to ts1.mm.bing.net]

thus the creation of matter with white overlaying black. white contains the full spectrum of color,sound,dimension..etc. and we know it is of positive polarity dominance. a spore print carries the alpha and omega and survives the vacuum of space.
 Quoting: Perseus7




It all goes back to the question of consciousness.

If the universe was created from an unconscious act,
how did consciousness come to be part of it?
Evolution...? Is consciousness a mutant gene that just came into being somehow?
 Quoting: K.Kool


our existence including the solar system and planets and infinite possibilites is the opposite of nothingness in a way.
nothingness is unstable inherently so it explodes creating that image I posted and thus matter and the potentiality for life and consciousness is born. why the whole song and dance is not really worth pondering anymore..for me at least. the symbol for dna with the alpha and omega is contained in the spore print along with all the other stuff.

its funny though how nothingness creates the matter universe and the anti-matter universe as well in that explosion. as above so below and all that jazz.

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It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I hope everyone realizes that. Just to add a little bit, since everything is of God, it is all God.
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It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I hope everyone realizes that. Just to add a little bit, since everything is of God, it is all God.
 Quoting: overwhatshername


the symbol of the holy spirit is on everything.
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When Tom Shanks in cloud atlas said, " ever think the universe is against you " I had a profound hyper dimensional moment because yes, I have had that cross my mind many times.
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When Tom Shanks in cloud atlas said, " ever think the universe is against you " I had a profound hyper dimensional moment because yes, I have had that cross my mind many times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036




lol
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and I'm sure it pleases God, but He ultimately sees things differently, if you ignore Him, you lose the chance for eternal life

This is just religtard programming for which you have no proof whatsoever besides some claim that you "feel things" that corroborate it. I will tell you the name of those things you feel, it's called wishful thinking. It's a common occurrence when someone wishes to back up some claim for which they possess no evidence.

Remember when we were kids that we used to make shit up to tell to our friends and impress them? Well guess what, that doesn't stop when we're awhadults.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




More than some vague feelings and wishful thinking,
it is recorded in the Bible,
the belief in which is not programming because you are free to believe it or not.

Faith is like a train you can get on, or not, but if you don't, you cannot see and experience all that those on the train do.

When I look around at society, seems to me the conditioning to look after no1 and chase pleasure as the meaning of life
is far more insidious.
 Quoting: K.Kool


It's written in the Bible doesn't mean it's true. There's a lot of books that have been written, the fact that you chose to put your faith in one doesn't mean anything other than you believe in that particular human creation.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




To think the Bible is just like any other book is a bit dense, it's like calling a block of units the Taj Mahal.
Even a flick through its list of chapters shows it is much more than that.
Regardless, my point still stands, that my belief in God is more than some wishful thinking, there is a record of a long history of man's relationship with God, and many witnesses of God's interactions with us.
Reason supports it too, the belief in a spontaneous creation of the universe without a creator, out of nothing, is plainly illogical.
It's been interesting arguing with you though, lol,
we will have to agree to disagree,
it would be even more interesting if we could compare notes on what happens to us, as we keep moving through these world-changing times.
 Quoting: K.Kool


What makes you think that your delusions are any more valid than the schizophrenic 's who thinks he is napoleon?
Holocaust denier white secretly urban negro.
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The "Big Bang" is kindergarten BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913


first lets look at the typical artist rendition of big bang
[link to nothingoutofnothing.files.wordpress.com]

now lets look at a typical spore print and deduce what we see in it.
[link to ts1.mm.bing.net]

thus the creation of matter with white overlaying black. white contains the full spectrum of color,sound,dimension..etc. and we know it is of positive polarity dominance. a spore print carries the alpha and omega and survives the vacuum of space.
 Quoting: Perseus7




It all goes back to the question of consciousness.

If the universe was created from an unconscious act,
how did consciousness come to be part of it?
Evolution...? Is consciousness a mutant gene that just came into being somehow?
 Quoting: K.Kool


our existence including the solar system and planets and infinite possibilites is the opposite of nothingness in a way.
nothingness is unstable inherently so it explodes creating that image I posted and thus matter and the potentiality for life and consciousness is born. why the whole song and dance is not really worth pondering anymore..for me at least. the symbol for dna with the alpha and omega is contained in the spore print along with all the other stuff.

its funny though how nothingness creates the matter universe and the anti-matter universe as well in that explosion. as above so below and all that jazz.
 Quoting: Perseus7



Nothingness is a hard concept to grasp, yet that is also what was, according to my religious perspective, before God
initiated life.
You say it happened by itself, out of an instability, but that implies some sort of molecule or electricity, something to be unstable.

I really think one day science and religion will meet on this, because both pursue the truth, and there is only one truth about creation.


I'm not sure I understand the significance of the alpha /omega symbol? Where is it on the spore pic you posted?

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first lets look at the typical artist rendition of big bang
[link to nothingoutofnothing.files.wordpress.com]

now lets look at a typical spore print and deduce what we see in it.
[link to ts1.mm.bing.net]

thus the creation of matter with white overlaying black. white contains the full spectrum of color,sound,dimension..etc. and we know it is of positive polarity dominance. a spore print carries the alpha and omega and survives the vacuum of space.
 Quoting: Perseus7




It all goes back to the question of consciousness.

If the universe was created from an unconscious act,
how did consciousness come to be part of it?
Evolution...? Is consciousness a mutant gene that just came into being somehow?
 Quoting: K.Kool


our existence including the solar system and planets and infinite possibilites is the opposite of nothingness in a way.
nothingness is unstable inherently so it explodes creating that image I posted and thus matter and the potentiality for life and consciousness is born. why the whole song and dance is not really worth pondering anymore..for me at least. the symbol for dna with the alpha and omega is contained in the spore print along with all the other stuff.

its funny though how nothingness creates the matter universe and the anti-matter universe as well in that explosion. as above so below and all that jazz.
 Quoting: Perseus7



Nothingness is a hard concept to grasp, yet that is also what was, according to my religious perspective, before God
initiated life.
You say it happened by itself, out of an instability, but that implies some sort of molecule or electricity, something to be unstable.

I really think one day science and religion will meet on this, because both pursue the truth, and there is only one truth about creation.


I'm not sure I understand the significance of the alpha /omega symbol? Where is it on the spore pic you posted?
 Quoting: K.Kool


oh you won't see it in the spore print.. it is contained within. the point is that it's in the schematic for the universe just like it is in the spore print..it doesn't need to be seeded or have sex etc.. all the info is contained for both male and female and even the ability to create the network to grow on(myceleum in the case of an actual mushroom spore, a network that spreads nutrients around to all plant life and thus making human life possible)

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It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.

The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Interesting take, I will have to reflect on your statement.
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It all goes back to the question of consciousness.

If the universe was created from an unconscious act,
how did consciousness come to be part of it?
Evolution...? Is consciousness a mutant gene that just came into being somehow?
 Quoting: K.Kool


our existence including the solar system and planets and infinite possibilites is the opposite of nothingness in a way.
nothingness is unstable inherently so it explodes creating that image I posted and thus matter and the potentiality for life and consciousness is born. why the whole song and dance is not really worth pondering anymore..for me at least. the symbol for dna with the alpha and omega is contained in the spore print along with all the other stuff.

its funny though how nothingness creates the matter universe and the anti-matter universe as well in that explosion. as above so below and all that jazz.
 Quoting: Perseus7



Nothingness is a hard concept to grasp, yet that is also what was, according to my religious perspective, before God
initiated life.
You say it happened by itself, out of an instability, but that implies some sort of molecule or electricity, something to be unstable.

I really think one day science and religion will meet on this, because both pursue the truth, and there is only one truth about creation.


I'm not sure I understand the significance of the alpha /omega symbol? Where is it on the spore pic you posted?
 Quoting: K.Kool


oh you won't see it in the spore print.. it is contained within. the point is that it's in the schematic for the universe just like it is in the spore print..it doesn't need to be seeded or have sex etc.. all the info is contained for both male and female and even the ability to create the network to grow on(myceleum in the case of an actual mushroom spore, a network that spreads nutrients around to all plant life and thus making human life possible)
 Quoting: Perseus7




It is a fascinating idea, do you mean the symbol is a kind of genetic code, that is contained in everything?
That sounds similar to the Higgs Boson, giving mass to everything.
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our existence including the solar system and planets and infinite possibilites is the opposite of nothingness in a way.
nothingness is unstable inherently so it explodes creating that image I posted and thus matter and the potentiality for life and consciousness is born. why the whole song and dance is not really worth pondering anymore..for me at least. the symbol for dna with the alpha and omega is contained in the spore print along with all the other stuff.

its funny though how nothingness creates the matter universe and the anti-matter universe as well in that explosion. as above so below and all that jazz.
 Quoting: Perseus7



Nothingness is a hard concept to grasp, yet that is also what was, according to my religious perspective, before God
initiated life.
You say it happened by itself, out of an instability, but that implies some sort of molecule or electricity, something to be unstable.

I really think one day science and religion will meet on this, because both pursue the truth, and there is only one truth about creation.


I'm not sure I understand the significance of the alpha /omega symbol? Where is it on the spore pic you posted?
 Quoting: K.Kool


oh you won't see it in the spore print.. it is contained within. the point is that it's in the schematic for the universe just like it is in the spore print..it doesn't need to be seeded or have sex etc.. all the info is contained for both male and female and even the ability to create the network to grow on(myceleum in the case of an actual mushroom spore, a network that spreads nutrients around to all plant life and thus making human life possible)
 Quoting: Perseus7




It is a fascinating idea, do you mean the symbol is a kind of genetic code, that is contained in everything?
That sounds similar to the Higgs Boson, giving mass to everything.
 Quoting: K.Kool


you got it~although I've never really read about the Higgs Boson..seems to be a piece to this puzzle that was known to all long ago, I believe.

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Nothingness is a hard concept to grasp, yet that is also what was, according to my religious perspective, before God
initiated life.
You say it happened by itself, out of an instability, but that implies some sort of molecule or electricity, something to be unstable.

I really think one day science and religion will meet on this, because both pursue the truth, and there is only one truth about creation.


I'm not sure I understand the significance of the alpha /omega symbol? Where is it on the spore pic you posted?
 Quoting: K.Kool


oh you won't see it in the spore print.. it is contained within. the point is that it's in the schematic for the universe just like it is in the spore print..it doesn't need to be seeded or have sex etc.. all the info is contained for both male and female and even the ability to create the network to grow on(myceleum in the case of an actual mushroom spore, a network that spreads nutrients around to all plant life and thus making human life possible)
 Quoting: Perseus7




It is a fascinating idea, do you mean the symbol is a kind of genetic code, that is contained in everything?
That sounds similar to the Higgs Boson, giving mass to everything.
 Quoting: K.Kool


you got it~although I've never really read about the Higgs Boson..seems to be a piece to this puzzle that was known to all long ago, I believe.
 Quoting: Perseus7



There's info on it here:


[link to cms.web.cern.ch]


I have a theory I like to speculate about, that if this fundamental smallest building block in the universe was conscious, or able to hold w/e it is that makes consciousness, then it would explain how God is able to be omni-present and omniscient.
I guess you already know, that God calls Himself the alpha and omega?
'I am the Alpha and Omega', says the Lord God, 'who is, who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.'
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oh you won't see it in the spore print.. it is contained within. the point is that it's in the schematic for the universe just like it is in the spore print..it doesn't need to be seeded or have sex etc.. all the info is contained for both male and female and even the ability to create the network to grow on(myceleum in the case of an actual mushroom spore, a network that spreads nutrients around to all plant life and thus making human life possible)
 Quoting: Perseus7




It is a fascinating idea, do you mean the symbol is a kind of genetic code, that is contained in everything?
That sounds similar to the Higgs Boson, giving mass to everything.
 Quoting: K.Kool


you got it~although I've never really read about the Higgs Boson..seems to be a piece to this puzzle that was known to all long ago, I believe.
 Quoting: Perseus7



There's info on it here:


[link to cms.web.cern.ch]


I have a theory I like to speculate about, that if this fundamental smallest building block in the universe was conscious, or able to hold w/e it is that makes consciousness, then it would explain how God is able to be omni-present and omniscient.
I guess you already know, that God calls Himself the alpha and omega?
'I am the Alpha and Omega', says the Lord God, 'who is, who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.'
 Quoting: K.Kool


sounds right to me
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It is a fascinating idea, do you mean the symbol is a kind of genetic code, that is contained in everything?
That sounds similar to the Higgs Boson, giving mass to everything.
 Quoting: K.Kool


you got it~although I've never really read about the Higgs Boson..seems to be a piece to this puzzle that was known to all long ago, I believe.
 Quoting: Perseus7



There's info on it here:


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I have a theory I like to speculate about, that if this fundamental smallest building block in the universe was conscious, or able to hold w/e it is that makes consciousness, then it would explain how God is able to be omni-present and omniscient.
I guess you already know, that God calls Himself the alpha and omega?
'I am the Alpha and Omega', says the Lord God, 'who is, who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.'
 Quoting: K.Kool


sounds right to me
 Quoting: Perseus7




It would be very exciting if science were to discover this consciousness factor in the smallest building block, that essentially gives everything substance, creates it in fact..!
K.Kool (OP)

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11/25/2012 08:12 PM

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Re: Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
I came across this yesterday, that explains this 'knowing' that so many have an issue with:

"religious faith is not like scientific knowledge.
We are, of course, familiar with non-scientific ways of knowing. If we love someone we would never dream of trying to prove it scientifically. In fact, when we love someone we surrender the need to be all-knowing and to control. We live with the mystery of the other person.
Religious faith has more in common with knowing someone we love than with scientific knowledge.
There can be a temptation to treat religious faith like scientific knowledge, but this will only lead to a dead end.
In fact, it becomes the ultimate betrayal of faith because we no longer trust God, but think we can do it all on our own."

[Fr Gerard Kelly]

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