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| Giftedest User ID: 10743044 United States11/21/2012 06:25 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is a euphemism for "the universe". "The Universe" is far too 'deep' for most mortals to grasp. "God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey. Whatever works. Last Edited by oiko on 11/21/2012 08:38 PM Who does your thinking? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28227913 United Kingdom11/21/2012 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28227913 United Kingdom11/21/2012 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is a euphemism for "the universe". Quoting: Giftedest "The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp. "God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey. Whatever works. Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me. The "Big Bang" is kindergarten BS! |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616  Spain11/21/2012 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is a euphemism for "the universe". Quoting: Giftedest "The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp. "God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey. Whatever works. Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me. There's no magic, everything works within the universal established laws, it's only when humans can't fathom something that they create fantastical explanations to satisfy their ignorance. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| K.Kool (OP) User ID: 28203555 Australia11/21/2012 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail. Quoting: Sunyata It's usually sitting still that brings the best results. Yea and whatever you do, don't lean on it. In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you, you will find a presence you cannot deny. |
| Sunyata User ID: 27804733 United States11/21/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All this running around looking for god, trying to describe what is. Is like trying to catch your own tail. Quoting: Sunyata It's usually sitting still that brings the best results. Yea and whatever you do, don't lean on it. In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you, you will find a presence you cannot deny. And you realize it's been there all along. amirite? |
| K.Kool (OP) User ID: 28203555 Australia11/21/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? |
| Sunyata User ID: 27804733 United States11/21/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Exactly, these questions are spiritual problems. Whether you're attempting a scientific explanation or a esoteric one, you're still chasing your own tail. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7770532 United States11/21/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the deepest darkest nights when all else has deserted you, Quoting: K.Kool you will find a presence you cannot deny. Yet I dare only the most fleeting a glance. Light beyond bright, that's not light at all. Drops you to your knees as there is nothing else you can bare do. Weeks, it'll take to recover. 'til the next brave moment. |
| K.Kool (OP) User ID: 28203555 Australia11/21/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is a euphemism for "the universe". Quoting: Giftedest "The Universe" is far to 'deep' for most mortals to grasp. "God" was invented to give simple minded people an entity to fear and obey. Whatever works. Ahhh well, the magic of the Big Bang doesn't cut it for me. There's no magic, everything works within the universal established laws, it's only when humans can't fathom something that they create fantastical explanations to satisfy their ignorance. Leaps of imagination and vision surprisingly bring some great results. These universal established laws...did they just happen too? |
| Jesse Sovoda User ID: 11481360 United States11/21/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Op, how do you define THE creator? Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain11/21/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? What you're going after is "The All" meaning all that exists. If you were able to encompass all existence and be able to distinguish its nature then you could attempt to explain what you're after. Otherwise you're just hearing voices in your head. Last Edited by Manu-K on 11/21/2012 06:45 PM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28227913 United Kingdom11/21/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Now, THAT is the great Question! I assume you are familiar with the work of the Thunderbolts.org website guys? Wal Thornhill is an Ozzie, just like you, dear KK! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28227913 United Kingdom11/21/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Creator is All-That-Is. Yes. There is no separate Creator. It is Everything. It is the only thing that really exists. |
| K.Kool (OP) User ID: 28203555 Australia11/21/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Exactly, these questions are spiritual problems. Whether you're attempting a scientific explanation or a esoteric one, you're still chasing your own tail. Chasing the truth, where science and religion meet. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada11/21/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In other words calling it "god" or "creator" or even trying to frame it into any kind of notion is an act of insult to said "god" force, right? |
| K.Kool (OP) User ID: 28203555 Australia11/21/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Op, how do you define THE creator? As God of course. |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain11/21/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913 The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Op, how do you define THE creator? As God of course. Words are meaningless, their significance it's what matters. What do you conceive God's meaning to be? If you conceive the meaning of God to refer to the human fabrications found in human religions then you're onto a fallacy. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Jesse Sovoda User ID: 11481360 United States11/21/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28227913 The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Op, how do you define THE creator? As God of course. Thanks, how do you define YOUR God? Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
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| K.Kool (OP) User ID: 28203555 Australia11/21/2012 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. Quoting: K.Kool The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. The Universe is the Creator, in Itself. Now we know of the tremendous electrical energy that surges through the visible Universe and powers the stars and galaxies, one might call that God. To me, it is the Supreme Being. To me, 'Supreme Being' is another euphemism. So, where did this electrical energy come from? Now, THAT is the great Question! I assume you are familiar with the work of the Thunderbolts.org website guys? Wal Thornhill is an Ozzie, just like you, dear KK! Yeah, I like his work, but as far as I understand, he gives no originator for the energy..? |
