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phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????

 
plinker
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11/21/2012 09:37 PM
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phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
[link to www.phoenix-arms.com]

well under $200

good or trash ?
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11/21/2012 09:45 PM
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
A used Ruger is far superior.

A Taurus is the best bet purchased used as the warranty is good for the life of the gun (forever).
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
If thats all you can afford then its better than nothing.

[link to www.mouseguns.com]

For a few more $ you can get a Bersa 22 or .380. Not top of the line by any means but they have a loyal following.

In a similar range, a CZ82 is a good buy, but it requires a less common but still cheap ammo.
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11/21/2012 09:47 PM
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
I've heard many positive things. If you shoot it out the manufacturer will replace it.

use high velocity ammo.
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
and fuck no, don't go with a Taurus PT22
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
A used Ruger is far superior.

A Taurus is the best bet purchased used as the warranty is good for the life of the gun (forever).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993


I've had experience with Taurus weapons, they are most certainly a superior gun for their price in general.
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
hp22a has lifetime warranty

please don't suggest anything other than 22LR
that's not at issue here
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11/21/2012 09:53 PM
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
I've heard many positive things. If you shoot it out the manufacturer will replace it.

use high velocity ammo.
 Quoting: Il1p9zC 25442245


NO.

That particular firearm is designed to work with only standard velocity ammunition.

Taurus is far superior, as is Ruger.

Either of those brands in whatever configuration you prefer is far superior.
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11/21/2012 09:58 PM
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
I've heard many positive things. If you shoot it out the manufacturer will replace it.

use high velocity ammo.
 Quoting: Il1p9zC 25442245



Taurus is far superior, as is Ruger.

Either of those brands in whatever configuration you prefer is far superior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993


can you define "superior" ??
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11/21/2012 10:00 PM
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
Taurus has quality control problems
22's and The Judge
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11/21/2012 10:04 PM
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
1. Availability of spare parts.

2. Availability of spare magazines.

3. Not constrained by .22LR normal velocity ammunition.

4. Better built with higher tolerances.

5. Higher resale value.

A used Ruger is ideal. You will always be able to get magazines, upgrades, and after-market parts. Additionally, if you ever sell it, you will get back what you put into it.

This looks like a self defense .22LR weapon. I am not a big fan of them (a KelTec .22 Magnum, 30 round pistol is as small I dare go), but as an example - the Ruger SR.22 is much more accurate.
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
1. Availability of spare parts.

2. Availability of spare magazines.

3. Not constrained by .22LR normal velocity ammunition.

4. Better built with higher tolerances.

5. Higher resale value.

A used Ruger is ideal. You will always be able to get magazines, upgrades, and after-market parts. Additionally, if you ever sell it, you will get back what you put into it.

This looks like a self defense .22LR weapon. I am not a big fan of them (a KelTec .22 Magnum, 30 round pistol is as small I dare go), but as an example - the Ruger SR.22 is much more accurate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993


1 you call phoenix and get spare parts
non issue
2 you call phoenix order mags
get on gun broker get mags
non issue
3 the very point IS to use standard velocity ammo
this thing is NOT picky and takes all the cheap stuff
cost is important
4 please elaborate
you know this how ?
how accurate is your micrometer you measured stuff with ?
sometimes looser parts work better
walther being best example it just chokes on everything
5 at well under $200 who cares ?
seriously this aint no gold plated engraved museum piece
non issue

not trying to be a pain just inciting a reasonable duscussion based on facts and actual first hand experiences not FUD
please

and np I'd never use this for self defense unless there was nothing else available , own plenty of other pieces...
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
I own a Phoenix h22a. It is a good gun nothing great. Biggest restriction is that it is no recommended for High velocity 22LR. If your planning on shooting a lot I would order a set of recoil springs from Phoenix. The gun wears them out after about 500 rounds. What will happens is when it wears out that it will not complete load the new cartridge in to the chamber. You will fire the gun and no bang. Pull the hammer back and fire again and it goes bang. What happens the first try finish putting the cartridge in the chamber. Then second try fires as normal.

Replace the recoil spring and it will work fine again. If you compare the old recoil spring with a new one you will see that it is shorter.
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Re: phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????
good luck finding ammo for it

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