phoenix arms hp22a 22LR GOOD or TRASH ????

A used Ruger is far superior.

A Taurus is the best bet purchased used as the warranty is good for the life of the gun (forever).

If thats all you can afford then its better than nothing.

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For a few more $ you can get a Bersa 22 or .380. Not top of the line by any means but they have a loyal following.

In a similar range, a CZ82 is a good buy, but it requires a less common but still cheap ammo.

I've heard many positive things. If you shoot it out the manufacturer will replace it.

use high velocity ammo.

and fuck no, don't go with a Taurus PT22

I've had experience with Taurus weapons, they are most certainly a superior gun for their price in general.

hp22a has lifetime warranty

please don't suggest anything other than 22LR
that's not at issue here

NO.

That particular firearm is designed to work with only standard velocity ammunition.

Taurus is far superior, as is Ruger.

Either of those brands in whatever configuration you prefer is far superior.

Taurus has quality control problems
22's and The Judge

1. Availability of spare parts.

2. Availability of spare magazines.

3. Not constrained by .22LR normal velocity ammunition.

4. Better built with higher tolerances.

5. Higher resale value.

A used Ruger is ideal. You will always be able to get magazines, upgrades, and after-market parts. Additionally, if you ever sell it, you will get back what you put into it.

This looks like a self defense .22LR weapon. I am not a big fan of them (a KelTec .22 Magnum, 30 round pistol is as small I dare go), but as an example - the Ruger SR.22 is much more accurate.

1 you call phoenix and get spare parts
non issue
2 you call phoenix order mags
get on gun broker get mags
non issue
3 the very point IS to use standard velocity ammo
this thing is NOT picky and takes all the cheap stuff
cost is important
4 please elaborate
you know this how ?
how accurate is your micrometer you measured stuff with ?
sometimes looser parts work better
walther being best example it just chokes on everything
5 at well under $200 who cares ?
seriously this aint no gold plated engraved museum piece
non issue

not trying to be a pain just inciting a reasonable duscussion based on facts and actual first hand experiences not FUD
please

and np I'd never use this for self defense unless there was nothing else available , own plenty of other pieces...