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This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers

 
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
What are the difference?
Who do they work for?
The Union or the Govt / Bus Owner?

There's no need for public unions. Private unions are one thing, but public?
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Geographically, most of IL is red. It's just that there's so much blue in Chicago, it overwhelms the rest of the state.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
It doesn't surprise me at all. Blago(Blagojevich) has been saying this all along, and that's why he is being put behind bars. He is the good guy, they are trying to shut him up. Exactly what he said has come true.

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Gov. Rod Blagojevich has been in the news for some time now. I believe that Blagojevich is innocent.

By the way, don't forget Rod Blagojevich accomplished many things while he was Governor of Illinois.

The top ten list of why Blago is innocent (and then Blago’s list of just 25 of his major accomplishments while in office)

1.) In regards to “the deal”, There were no bags of cash. Nobody got shoved up against a wall and had his pockets turned out. The government caught the Blago's talking deals on the phone, but in politics, that's what you do. This happens in any business, that's what you do. And the prosecution has failed to show that the Blagojevich’s did anything more than shoot the breeze.

2.) Blagojevich was picked up by the feds because he dared to threaten Bank of America a few days earlier with the loss of all state business…

3.) The media has only tried to bad name his credibility, poke fun at his hair, call him names, or criticize his personal life. We Are Change, with the intention to provide the American people with the TRUTH, talked to Governor Blagojevich about his resistance to big banks, which is what really led to his arrest. And here’s the video mentioned in that e-mail. Blagojevich does utter some expletives (no surprise there), so be careful if you’re on a work computer…

4.) Like Obama, Blago is innocent because he said so. Many forget that after all, this whole debacle comes from the Senate seat that our President once held. Why hold a former Senator to a higher standard than a former Governor?


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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Its always been a bad idea for the hangmen and rope manufactures to influence the law-why should prison guards be able to organize and do it?
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
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Yea why need unions when barack can tell everyone What to do. Or else
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Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
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Yea why need unions when barack can tell everyone What to do. Or else
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You honestly believe that?

Damn we have a lot of crazies in the Netherlands.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Was Illinois a blue state?
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true blue
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And over $40 BILLION DOLLARS UNDER WATER...

A gigantic debt hole thanks to corrupt politicians in Springfield.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
wow...I'm in IL... the unions are very powerful here.

Governors have historically been controlled by the Chicago mob or just corrupt politicians

This is an interesting move spock
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Illinois Gov Patricia Quinn may soon be fitted with concrete shoes and tossed in the river by a few ticked off mobsters..

I say they go for it as Quinn supports obamacare and taking away pensions.
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wow...I'm in IL... the unions are very powerful here.

Governors have historically been controlled by the Chicago mob or just corrupt politicians

This is an interesting move spock
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Ditto.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
fuck the Illinois scum Liberal government right in the ass;


that's run by fuckign mob poss fat blimps

that wear pinky rings and smell like they take baths in garlic sauce
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Hope they all freeze to death
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16499015


Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


Why should the majority pay higher taxes so the tiny minority of union workers get better benefits than the ones paying for it?

Maybe that thinking is truly why the middle class is going down the crapper.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.
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The middle class these days has a whole lot of public employees. Or goverment contract workers .

The days of a GED and pushing a button at the factory for 750 a week with benefits to start are long gone.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16499015


Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


Why should the majority pay higher taxes so the tiny minority of union workers get better benefits than the ones paying for it?

Maybe that thinking is truly why the middle class is going down the crapper.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16499015


Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


Why should the majority pay higher taxes so the tiny minority of union workers get better benefits than the ones paying for it?

Maybe that thinking is truly why the middle class is going down the crapper.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


You cannot be that fucking stupid. The majority pay higher taxes for a tiny minority of union workers? Where do you live, fantasy land? I love when people who cannot even distinguish their assholes from a hole in the ground, produce bullshit replies, like they know something about the subject matter. The problem with the middle class is that we are saddled with ignorant morons like yourself which we have to carry on our backs.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
And they want to give drivers license to illegal immigrants. My new bumper sticker has two words. "Fuck Illinois."

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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
looks like trouble ahead for union folks.....
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Bout damn time, after all the hell they put the non union people thru with their GREED!
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Public unions are quite possibly the biggest pieces of shit and thieves on the planet, next to the international banksters. They unionize and coerce the government to give in to their demands, against which the taxpayers HAVE NO SAY AT ALL.

They are negotiating with NOBODY. They are thieves and robbers.
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And the job of elected officials should be to get the functions of the state done at the least possible expense to the taxpayer. Instead, they vote high wages and salaries and retirements for themselves and the unionized state workers, and become rich in a few years from under the table kick-backs from the union leaders and other racketeers.

But look for this Governor to be in danger of a serious "accident." Some people don't take NO for an answer
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16499015


Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


You obviously do not live in IL. They haven't been giving any concessions whatsoever. There's an 88 BILLION DOLLAR pension fund shortfall for all these fucks and you claim they've been taking it in the ass.
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UNIONS GOING DOWN (along with the rest of us):

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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16499015


Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


Why should the majority pay higher taxes so the tiny minority of union workers get better benefits than the ones paying for it?

Maybe that thinking is truly why the middle class is going down the crapper.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16499015


Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


Why should the majority pay higher taxes so the tiny minority of union workers get better benefits than the ones paying for it?

Maybe that thinking is truly why the middle class is going down the crapper.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


You cannot be that fucking stupid. The majority pay higher taxes for a tiny minority of union workers? Where do you live, fantasy land? I love when people who cannot even distinguish their assholes from a hole in the ground, produce bullshit replies, like they know something about the subject matter. The problem with the middle class is that we are saddled with ignorant morons like yourself which we have to carry on our backs.
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You sound like a worthless janitor, custodian or other loser with a union job that gets to pretend to be middle class all the while you clean toilets because we, the taxpayers, pay $30/hr for your "services".
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations....

Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

IMO, if people must have unions, no union should be bigger than one shop. Let only the people who work for an employer bargain with that employer.

The first antitrust laws pertained to unions as well as companies. That is what we should return to, as a first step anyway.
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hit the streets you leeching motherfuckers.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
What are the difference?
Who do they work for?
The Union or the Govt / Bus Owner?

There's no need for public unions. Private unions are one thing, but public?
 Quoting: - 14012564

 Quoting: Arial721


The difference is huge, if you believe a state exists for the benefit of its people.

A private union makes a private deal between itself and a business owner. In some states, things go a bit far and the owner is unable to prevent formation of a union, but generally (right to work states) it's a reasonable compromise. Once the owner accepts the union he should bargain fairly with them.

But as a taxpayer I don't remember ever approving a deal to have my "public servants" unionize. And I never even have the choice to stop paying taxes, other than moving out of a state or out of the country.

This is a great move by Gov. Quinn, let's hope he follows through. Illinois is in deep shit, and the union situation needs to be corrected. There are plenty of unemployed people who are educated and experienced and could do those jobs for the government, give them a shot.
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hit the streets you leeching motherfuckers.
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It's always fun to heckle them when they march around out front a gov't building chanting slogans you'd have expected from middle schoolers trying taunt an opposing football team.

I sat across the street and heckled the Chicago school teachers while they were protesting. You should have seen their fat fucking faces when they were called fat fucking worthless pieces of shit.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations....

Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

IMO, if people must have unions, no union should be bigger than one shop. Let only the people who work for an employer bargain with that employer.

The first antitrust laws pertained to unions as well as companies. That is what we should return to, as a first step anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28265355


this!
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Good for them...unions use to be needed but now they're ALL power and greedy hungry.
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Are you still living in the 70's? Unions have done nothing but give concessions since the Ronnie Raygun era. It's one reason why the middle class is going down the crapper.
 Quoting: Richterscale


Why should the majority pay higher taxes so the tiny minority of union workers get better benefits than the ones paying for it?

Maybe that thinking is truly why the middle class is going down the crapper.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


The middle class these days has a whole lot of public employees. Or goverment contract workers .

The days of a GED and pushing a button at the factory for 750 a week with benefits to start are long gone.
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The trouble is, that middle class of largely government workers is unsustainable. Where's the external productivity that produces the money to pay them? You could support a small group of middle class govt workers if there's a much larger middle class of private employees and entrepreneurs. But when the engine driving it, the private economy, is dying, the government just becomes a noose around its neck with its demands for support.
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
boo fuckin hoo
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Damn Straight.




Fucking state employees, for the most part, are lazy fuckers that get every damn holiday off, along with the best benefits known to mankind and damn good pay.




I get so sick of seeing them whine about how "rough" life would be without all of their damn pampering at MY EXPENSE.



I dont get any damn benefits from the company that I work with, and you dont see me bitching and whining.



Grow some balls, you pansy ass state workers.

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Bout damn time!

Unions have killed this country now it is time to kill them!
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
What are the difference?
Who do they work for?
The Union or the Govt / Bus Owner?

There's no need for public unions. Private unions are one thing, but public?
 Quoting: - 14012564

 Quoting: Arial721


Because, simpleton. The gov't is WE THE PEOPLE. A public union negotiates against its own citizenry! Not to mention this, but the current politician is a TEMPORARY representative of WE THE PEOPLE. Politician Joe Blow can NOT morally sign away in perpetuity a collective bargaining agreement that citizens who have NOT YET BEEN BORN will be forced to keep paying to fuck face gov't union pieces of shit when they grow up.

Get it, dipshit?
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In fact, I think I will spend a karma pin on it ...!~
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Whoa, thanks
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
They are broke ! most states and municipalities are broke and the employees, aka, thieving parasites, don't even know it yet,they are totally unaware that their career spent feeding off of their fellow Americans is almost over and that it is a mathematics impossibility for them to collect the bennies that they expected, it is just not going to happen.
Broke.....dick broke !
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Re: This just in… Illinois Governor Pat Quinn terminated state government’s contract with 40,000+ Union workers
Drive by many schools or state government parking lots, I see Acura's, BMW's, Lexus.

Yet they still want, want want.

But you will not see any quit for a non-government job.

It is too the point that raising taxes do very little, except to hire more government workers.

Every level of government can cut 10% across the board and no services would change, except for those employees working at a slower pace.

How many times have you seen some form of local government offer early retirement, this to cut the budget, yet two years later more employees are now working for the same government.

It is really sad when the largest employer in the state. is the state.

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