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I do not understand what you all are talking about. The airports are jammed with more people traveling than ever before. The stores are already packed with people waiting for shopping to begin for Christmas. Hotels are full. Freeways are bumper to bumper.

Yet you all are implying the economy is either dead or dying. What gives. Either there millions of people who are in dire straits and as implied by the complaints on this forum or the media is lying about the airports, malls, stores, vacations, etc.

What gives?
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people are probably putting it on credit cards.
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They are putting it on credit cards. Consumer debt has increased while on-time payments have decreased.

The average credit card debt per borrower in the U.S. grew 4.9 percent in the July-to-September period from a year earlier to $4,996

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In order for me to believe this story, I'd have to see proof of a skinny person. I don't know of any skinny people here - we are all humongously fat.
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@Hellcat Maggie

$7 for a chicken ?

Here one can buy a ready-cooked chicken from the grocery deli for less than that.


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Cup of Bisquick, a can of chicken and veggie soup, and a cup of rice makes a potpie for less than five bucks. They are canned veggies, but still veggies.
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People DO try to maintain a semblance of holiday despite this crisis so if they are traveling or shopping, I bet it's due to some great sacrifice (like immense budgeting all year)


QFT

In life it does come down to sacrifices in one form or another. Especially once we become Adults and accept responsibilities both for ourselves and any children.

"Stuff" is the first thing to be "sacrificed" when money gets tight in our family. So maybe we don't have a television, cel-ffons, designer label clothes & shoes, latest generation computers, latest model vehicles, etc.

Maybe we don't take cruises, trips, vacations to exotic places and instead go to local events & state parks. Saving up instead for a long-distance Holiday visit with family...

What we do have is paid monthly mortgage, utilities, insurances, and homemade food on the table.

We all have different priorities, needs, wants & desires. I desire to have wholesome food I've prepared and can make sacrifices to meet that desire, especially during Holidays.
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Re: Parents skipping meals so children donít go hungry as families struggle with longest cost of living squeeze in 60 years
I know what Skyblau is talking about. many people who work a little over minimum wage don't qualify for food stamps or get very little. The working poor have it the hardest now, no where to move up . Sometimes many would do better to just move down and have more entitlements. So many companies cutting even part time employees hours that it hardly pays the gas to work. I really do not know how some people are making it.
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my parents went hungry so i could eat, and i do the same for my son.

it's nothing new, nothing surprising.

what's new is others pretending to care about it.
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why would u have kids if u are poor, god damn americans are dumb
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Right, because falling on hard times only happens at the most opportune moments. How about after having the kids? Medical bills, loss of jobs, etc- think these things happen to people at the perfect moment?
Idiot.
 Quoting: Ollo


Does the world need more children? Of course not. But these selfish people can't control their hormones, and don't consider the consequences of their actions. Typical sheeple human behavior. Not having children would have made there lives much easier, regardless of a downturn in the economy, and eased the burden on planet earth. So who is the idiot?

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In order for me to believe this story, I'd have to see proof of a skinny person. I don't know of any skinny people here - we are all humongously fat.
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cheap, non-nutrituous foods can make a person fat. so a person can be starving(cells getting no nutrition) and still be fat.
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Re: Parents skipping meals so children donít go hungry as families struggle with longest cost of living squeeze in 60 years
Someone on GLP mentioned Great Depression Cooking with Clara:

[link to www.youtube.com]

I've made several of these meals and not only are they inexpensive, they're pretty tasty.

peace
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I'm a fan of Clara as well. Her pasta and peas dish is amazingly good.
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@AmericanJedi


Tasty, cheap, quick, easy, nutritious and filling:


Can of cooked chunk chicken [around $2 or less here]

Rice [regular, not instant]

Veggies [fresh broccoli and/or carrots - whatever will cook
on low heat with the rice in 15-20 minutes.]

Onions [dehydrated will do]

Butter

Spices


Put everything in one pot and cook with the rice.


Can of cream of chicken soup [only slightly diluted]
heated separately and served over [or mixed] with rice
at serving.



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Re: Parents skipping meals so children donít go hungry as families struggle with longest cost of living squeeze in 60 years
There really are people in the US who are this poor. But, you probably won't know who they are because they don't likely go around bragging about it.

I've done this for the past year - rationing food for myself so the kids could have a larger share. Learned you can survive on one meal a day, less if money is really tight. I never got food stamps. Perhaps it's selfish, but I just could not bring myself to face the shame of going to the welfare office.

BUT, about a month ago, I landed a second job, and thankfully, oh-so-thankfully, we can afford to eat when we want to again! I may change adults' poopy diapers for a living, but it provides a paycheck that allows us to eat. We're still below the poverty level, but things are much better than they were.

So this is an extra special Thanksgiving for us - the first one in a couple of years where we could actually afford Thanksgiving groceries!
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ha I dress the family out of thrift shops the leftovers from the age of excess are still great. Hint I can get 10 sets of clothes including shoes for around 50 bucks per person. Socks and underwears from big lots adds another 20 bucks. recent great score was 50 pairs of gloves for 12 dollars , those should last for about 5 years before I gotta think about getting more.
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Thrift shops are great. I live in a very affluent area, and got most of my clothes from thrift shops. Rich people wear something a few times, then donate it. I dress extremely well for very little.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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I went to school (college and technical school) with a lot of people (mostly women) on government assistance of some sort. Here's how it worked out for them: Food stamps - yes, Section 8 housing - yes, Free education - yes. Cell phones that I cannot afford - yes, plenty of spending money - yes.

Poor? According to the government, yes. According to me, not so much.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Thrift store clothing may still be too expensive for some people.

The cheapest place to find good used clothing and household items is garage sales.
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ha I dress the family out of thrift shops the leftovers from the age of excess are still great. Hint I can get 10 sets of clothes including shoes for around 50 bucks per person. Socks and underwears from big lots adds another 20 bucks. recent great score was 50 pairs of gloves for 12 dollars , those should last for about 5 years before I gotta think about getting more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957572


Thrift shops are great. I live in a very affluent area, and got most of my clothes from thrift shops. Rich people wear something a few times, then donate it. I dress extremely well for very little.
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I live in a city where thrift stores are considered "hip", and prices have gone up accordingly. I could get one outfit for one of my kids for about $10 (not including shoes - that would be another $7-10). Gotta hit the yard sales for the best deals now because the thrift stores are not nearly as much of a bargain as they used to be.
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"Picky children"?

Really?

It's not children who are picky. It's parents being pushovers and shoving their bad eating habits off onto their kids. I can see the next generation of Americans unable to eat chicken unless it's slathered with Ranch dressing.

No, children aren't "picky". Every single day I see a child munching on a piece of dusty, dry bread because it's FOOD. Nothing "picky" about that.
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Is this is what supposed to happened in U.S. :(

Hunger is becoming a reality for one in ten families who are skipping meals or relying on charity and hand-outs, a study said yesterday.

In some cases, mothers are putting their health at risk by eating only every other day to make sure their children do not go hungry.

Some nine per cent of people have sometimes skipped meals, gone without to feed their children or relied on friends, family or charity for food in the past 12 months, according to a study backed by Tesco.
Source: [link to newsdoors.blogspot.com]
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Not to downplay this American shame, which is what it is, but there are ways to eat much cheaper than most Americans are accustomed to, and to improve health while doing so. It requires giving up most or all meat and processed foods, however. I once had a friend who grew up in a deeply poor Hispanic family, and she told me once, "We never had any money but we never went hungry. There was always a big pot of beans soaking on the stove."

Beans and peas can and should form the centerpiece of your diet. They are linked to longevity, good body weight (without feeling deprived), and prevention of many chronic diseases. That, plus some veggies in season (which are always cheapest) and some grain like oatmeal or rice bought in bulk, and you are good to go.

My favorite eat-dinner-all-week recipe:

split pea and veggie soup, priced as follows:

3 pounds split peas ($3.00)
1 bag carrots ($1)
1 onion ($1)
2 lbs roma tomatoes ($3.00)
1 loaf whole wheat bread ($3.00)

Total: $11.00, keeping in mind that the veggies are optional so the price could be less.

Cook the peas and veggies with a little seasoning to taste, and eat with the bread and you have enough to feed a family of four a healthy, protein rich dinner for three or four nights. Sure it gets dull, but it is healthy and nobody goes hungry.

For breakfast, buy oatmeal in large containers ($3.00 or so) and you have breakfast for four for a week, easily. If you can afford it, buy a couple of dollars worth of bananas or raisins to flavor up the oatmeal.

If you are lucky enough to have a membership to Sam's or Costco, or to have a friend who does, you can get three pounds of fresh broccoli for about five dollars, enough to feed a family several servings of this vitamin c-rich cancer fighter weekly.

Eggs are a very cheap source of protein. Add a couple of dozen boiled eggs to the menu above, and that adds perhaps three dollars per week.

To keep up a vegan/vegetarian diet as described above long-term, there would need to be a few additions and adaptations, such as, a B-12 supplement or just an ordinary multi-vitamin would be important. Also, in order to get adequate calcium from this diet, it would be necessary to add some additional greens like steamed kale, but you get the idea.

We need to learn to think like this about food. Doctors and nutritionists are increasingly coming to understand that a diet focused on beans, grains, and unprocessed foods is the key to health and longevity. You may think it sounds like a deprivation diet, but give it a try, you might be amazed how quickly those foods come to taste good, and your health will improve.
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Re: Parents skipping meals so children donít go hungry as families struggle with longest cost of living squeeze in 60 years
Someone on GLP mentioned Great Depression Cooking with Clara:

[link to www.youtube.com]

I've made several of these meals and not only are they inexpensive, they're pretty tasty.

peace
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I'm a fan of Clara as well. Her pasta and peas dish is amazingly good.
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I was on a fried potatoes and hot dogs kick for a while there.

It's good stuff!
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I do not understand what you all are talking about. The airports are jammed with more people traveling than ever before. The stores are already packed with people waiting for shopping to begin for Christmas. Hotels are full. Freeways are bumper to bumper.

Yet you all are implying the economy is either dead or dying. What gives. Either there millions of people who are in dire straits and as implied by the complaints on this forum or the media is lying about the airports, malls, stores, vacations, etc.

What gives?
 Quoting: ProudFossil




First off, did you personally COUNT all the people at all the airports or...are you relying on the news to tell you this?
Yeah, that's what I thought!

Here's something you might want to consider, there are less flights available thus, more people standing around at once! So not so sure much has changed as far as travelers.

Also.....

Stores are packed?
Hotels are full?
Freeways are bumper to bumper?

There will always be people in stores and needing hotels and driving but where are you getting this information from?

The fact is, there are more people hurting now than ever before. Stand back and watch how many people whip out an EBT card at the grocery store. I think THAT is more indicative of reality than judging whose doing what in these next 6 weeks!
People DO try to maintain a semblance of holiday despite this crisis so if they are traveling or shopping, I bet it's due to some great sacrifice (like immense budgeting all year)
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I live 70 miles out in the country so my information(?) is coming from CNN and MSNBC. They show chaos at the airports because of 44,000,000 people going somewhere for Thanksgiving. We had to go to a funeral in Trinidad, Colorado on I-25. Bumper to Bumper in every city, especially Denver. It was so bad in Denver we had to use side streets which were still busy but at least moving. And the hotel in Trinidad was packed solid.

I go to the grocery stores in town twice a month. There is always at least 3 to 4 people in every checkout line. You can't even park at the malls without having to walk a mile to get to the store. I had a question at the local Apple store and had to wait about 30 minutes before a clerk was free and there were about 20 clerks.

Yes, there are a FEW who do not have money but they are rare and far between. Look at the unemployment. It is going down rapidly so people are working. Illegals are streaming here because the conditions here are so much better than anywhere else.

So don't give me this bullshit about millions of children going hungry and millions of parents goin hungry.
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You must live way out in the country..are you kidding me?

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Ofttimes people are poor because of bad life choices.

I wonder how many of these poor people spend a lot of
money each month on cell phones, cable TV, etc.

I [a single mom] was ready to give money to another
single mom who was struggling with two children...
until I noticed she chain-smoked cigarettes.

One of my [single mom] co-workers would complain about
not having money to pay bills... and I felt sorry for
her until the day after payday, when she came to work
with professionally done hair and nails [ie, her money
had gone to the beauty parlor.]



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ha I dress the family out of thrift shops the leftovers from the age of excess are still great. Hint I can get 10 sets of clothes including shoes for around 50 bucks per person. Socks and underwears from big lots adds another 20 bucks. recent great score was 50 pairs of gloves for 12 dollars , those should last for about 5 years before I gotta think about getting more.
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Thrift shops are great. I live in a very affluent area, and got most of my clothes from thrift shops. Rich people wear something a few times, then donate it. I dress extremely well for very little.
 Quoting: INK3


I love thrift shops. Even when I was making decent money and could afford to buy new I shopped at them and found really nice clothes, etc.
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Yes, cheap food can be very good and nutricous. Dry beans (pintos, navy, great northern, black eyed peas, kindey, small red,green peas, etc etc.), brown rice or white, a bit of smoked jowl or salt pork for seasoning, carrots, celery, onions, store brand canned tomatoes, pasta, corn meal. all cheap. Years ago I was living in, uh, straightened circumstances and would keep track of how much i spent on groceries. I would not go shopping until it got down to $0.15 per day. I could live on beans and corn bread indefinitely. ANY kind of garden helps immensely. A few fresh herbs and cherry tomatoes grown in a flower box make a big difference. rockon
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Ofttimes people are poor because of bad life choices.


I wonder how many of these poor people spend a lot of
money each month on cell phones, cable TV, etc.

I [a single mom] was ready to give money to another
single mom who was struggling with two children...
until I noticed she chain-smoked cigarettes.

One of my [single mom] co-workers would complain about
not having money to pay bills... and I felt sorry for
her until the day after payday, when she came to work
with professionally done hair and nails [ie, her money
had gone to the beauty parlor.]



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That is true. I find it difficult to feel sorry for my two step-nieces who have each had multiple children with multiple men (one has two kids and the other four). They couldn't find a man and marry him and save a little cash before having those kids? Yet they sit and complain about how tough life is for them and how they never get any breaks and have to work so hard for minimum wage type jobs. Then they beg my sister and her husband for money (money which they don't have, either). Some people will always be in crisis because they don't have the capacity to plan out their lives. If we force these people to take care of themselves rather than rushing in with the free cash and stuff, they would be better off in the long-term.
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I grew up poor,single dad. Luckily he could cook. We only had real meat on Sundays, but he always had a big pot of beans that we ate on most of the week.he made the best biscuits ! Since he worked nights he cut the biscuits out placed them on waxed paper put in the freezer, every morning I baked a few of them and my brother and I ate them with molasses. It really does take a little planning.
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Welcome to Africa...Africa is the social benchmark for the Western working class. The Corporates/Multinationals see what they get away with here and export our social suffering to you...with some added bullshit...maybe a colored President telling you that 'Yes You Can'; and when you do then 'can' goes into fat corporate Bonuses. The system is criminally fucked.
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This thread is depressive.
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We have had to cut back also, I eat 1 meal a day so the others can have more.........



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[link to www.youtube.com]

96 year old cook, author and great grandmother, Clara, recounts her childhood during the Great Depression as she prepares meals from the era. Learn how to make simple yet delicious dishes while listening to stories from the Great Depression.

Link to her channel:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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"Picky children"?

Really?

It's not children who are picky. It's parents being pushovers and shoving their bad eating habits off onto their kids. I can see the next generation of Americans unable to eat chicken unless it's slathered with Ranch dressing.

No, children aren't "picky". Every single day I see a child munching on a piece of dusty, dry bread because it's FOOD. Nothing "picky" about that.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Yes!

Children are very, very rarely "picky" when it comes to food. They will express their "wants" (sometimes quite loudly & with copious tears) for certain foods.

As parents, we are responsible for saying "NO, eat what is put in front of you or eat nothing." I was fond of saying "This is not a restaurant." A few times of going without a meal cured any "pickiness" in my babies real quick like ;-)

And Awfekit, my heart goes out to little ones anywhere who have to live in such abject misery of an empty tummy.
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