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please give a demonstration of what is satanic in it the urantia book? you must have valid knowledge to debunk it.
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please give a demonstration of what is satanic in it the urantia book? you must have valid knowledge to debunk it.
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straight off the top, it is completely contrary to scripture. next, it operates from satanic methods. third, it offers destructive testimony.

urantia is false.
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Its not a line of thinking, it is 2000 pages of material given to man to tell him how the cosmos is governed. It is not about religon. It has major information of many natures in it. It is in no way complete and much had to be left out of it. It will be added onto.

Since Adam and Eve lived so long ago, and because the earth has undergone both pole reversals and axis shifting since that time, there are exactly NO records on each about them.
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it's channeled satanic garbage.
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Have you read Edgar Cayce?
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yes. same thing.

remember: demons will often mix truth with lies. the important thing to realize is the overall agenda in the message.
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Salt, please explain how the word of God is supposed to get into the earth plan? You meditate to hear God. that is mind to mind communication and thus channeling, or better yet telepathy.
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it's channeled satanic garbage.
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Have you read Edgar Cayce?
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yes. same thing.

remember: demons will often mix truth with lies. the important thing to realize is the overall agenda in the message.
 Quoting: Salt

Salt, please explain how the word of God is supposed to get into the earth plan? You meditate to hear God. that is mind to mind communication and thus channeling, or better yet telepathy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5953863


i don't agree. channeling is inviting an entity (sometimes of unknown origin) to enter and communicate, from which you relay the information and regard it as truth.

praying to God is holy and divine and pure.

unless you are talking to God, you are talking to the enemy.
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Salt the Urantia Book was given to awaken the star seeds who came in as Jesus was planning his return. Why did not not awaken YOU, you could not have read enough of it. Most people who "read" chunks of it close it up as satanic because it contains information that defies the conditioning of the boxes they wear on their heads. that does not make it satanci.

Satanists are retarded fuck heads. They do not know about the higher realms because they have never lived in the, including your invisible satans.
They could not provide 2000 pages of the quality of detail that is in that book. They do not know the science in it, they do not know of the Central Universe, they do not know or understand how all of the creation is managed and governed and by whom. They are ocmpletely incapable of writing such a thing.

The problem with Christians is they are so completely mind controlled by the vastly inadquate material taught in their religion, from all sources, including those you like to quote here that are full of errors for all reasons.

Man in fact has never before even in the olden days of Atlantis etc been given the detail of the Urantia Book, Walter Russell and others.

Man has to be given books until he can access the Father directly and you can do that,per your claims you have made, so why are you supporting ancients material that is screwed all to hell.

You should not even need the books. Ponder it.
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Houston we have a problem!

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
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Funny I never caught that before

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Interesting, who are the "our". That would seem to suggest that there are other gods
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Yeah I caught that too.

Just Jesus or Angels (Lucifer,Gabriele,)
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Well the problem with the "our" being Jesus for many believers would indicate Jesus and GOD are separate entities. SHOCK! HORROR!

If the "OUR" means Angels including Satan, who hadn't been cast out yet, then GOD and all other heavenly beings look the same as GOD.

Genesis 6 is an interesting side line to this story.

But there is another problem a little later on.

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

AND confirmed in

Genesis 3 3-4 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:


According to these two verses the serpent told the truth and GOD lied as Adam and Eve didn't die after they ate the fruit.

There has to be something wrong with the story because we are told Jesus (GOD's son) was without sin, so GOD can't lie, can he?

Well apparently he can deceive and does deceive according to the Bible

Jeremiah 4:10 Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.

Jeremiah 20:7 O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived.

Ezekiel 14:9 And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.


2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

Something more to consider!
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She did die. Not immediately, but she did die. There was no sin and human death until she commited the sin.

She had sex with Satan, this was Satans plan and after the fact the fallen angels bread with women. Their plan was to pollute the bloodline where Jesus would come through, and they would have been successful if God didn't flood them out. Noah had a pure bloodline.

Look at the genealogy of Adam, Cain isn't listed; he is the Son of the devil, and his offspring are the evil ones. Jesus saw some Cainanites and pointed them out.

John 8:44 "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies"
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Salt the Urantia Book was given to awaken the star seeds who came in as Jesus was planning his return. Why did not not awaken YOU, you could not have read enough of it. Most people who "read" chunks of it close it up as satanic because it contains information that defies the conditioning of the boxes they wear on their heads. that does not make it satanci.

Satanists are retarded fuck heads. They do not know about the higher realms because they have never lived in the, including your invisible satans.
They could not provide 2000 pages of the quality of detail that is in that book. They do not know the science in it, they do not know of the Central Universe, they do not know or understand how all of the creation is managed and governed and by whom. They are ocmpletely incapable of writing such a thing.

The problem with Christians is they are so completely mind controlled by the vastly inadquate material taught in their religion, from all sources, including those you like to quote here that are full of errors for all reasons.

Man in fact has never before even in the olden days of Atlantis etc been given the detail of the Urantia Book, Walter Russell and others.

Man has to be given books until he can access the Father directly and you can do that,per your claims you have made, so why are you supporting ancients material that is screwed all to hell.

You should not even need the books. Ponder it.
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listen. i do not subscribe to the urantia cult.
i have my reasons.
i recommend you run as fast and hard away from that crap as you can.
it's based in vanity and satanic garbage that is as far from God as one can possibly get.
you are not a star seed, you are a child of the Most High God.
remember that.
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Kenites I meant, not Cainanites.
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they were aliens.
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Have you read Edgar Cayce?
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yes. same thing.

remember: demons will often mix truth with lies. the important thing to realize is the overall agenda in the message.
 Quoting: Salt

Salt, please explain how the word of God is supposed to get into the earth plan? You meditate to hear God. that is mind to mind communication and thus channeling, or better yet telepathy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5953863


i don't agree. channeling is inviting an entity (sometimes of unknown origin) to enter and communicate, from which you relay the information and regard it as truth.

praying to God is holy and divine and pure.

unless you are talking to God, you are talking to the enemy.
 Quoting: Salt


As man becomes cosmic man, prayer will cease. it is only acceptable on this world because its a prison world. Each will seek within, just as Jesus did 2000 years ago.

The Urantia Book is not channeled material. It was given using radio frequencies, by the man entities giving it thru the single receiver. A secretary, because there were not tape recorded at the time, took it down as the receiver spoke. It is too complext to be labeled channeling.

Tell you what, when I am back home from my traveling, I will start another Urantia Book thread in which you can argue with me, which statements in it are satanic. OK. You will not be able to win against me.

The receiver, was totally asleep and not even in his body when the many entities that did the teaching came thru him. He has not one iota he was even doing this as he slept.

So ok, put on that thinker.

So all the angels of the Lord are desceivers too? Like Uriel, right, uriel is a deceiver.

Beloved. Think. By your description Jesus was then also a deceiver. Put on your mind.
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yes. same thing.

remember: demons will often mix truth with lies. the important thing to realize is the overall agenda in the message.
 Quoting: Salt

Salt, please explain how the word of God is supposed to get into the earth plan? You meditate to hear God. that is mind to mind communication and thus channeling, or better yet telepathy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5953863


i don't agree. channeling is inviting an entity (sometimes of unknown origin) to enter and communicate, from which you relay the information and regard it as truth.

praying to God is holy and divine and pure.

unless you are talking to God, you are talking to the enemy.
 Quoting: Salt


As man becomes cosmic man, prayer will cease. it is only acceptable on this world because its a prison world. Each will seek within, just as Jesus did 2000 years ago.

The Urantia Book is not channeled material. It was given using radio frequencies, by the man entities giving it thru the single receiver. A secretary, because there were not tape recorded at the time, took it down as the receiver spoke. It is too complext to be labeled channeling.

Tell you what, when I am back home from my traveling, I will start another Urantia Book thread in which you can argue with me, which statements in it are satanic. OK. You will not be able to win against me.

The receiver, was totally asleep and not even in his body when the many entities that did the teaching came thru him. He has not one iota he was even doing this as he slept.

So ok, put on that thinker.

So all the angels of the Lord are desceivers too? Like Uriel, right, uriel is a deceiver.

Beloved. Think. By your description Jesus was then also a deceiver. Put on your mind.
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blah blah blah
don't want it, don't need it.
neither desired or required.
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Salt the Urantia Book was given to awaken the star seeds who came in as Jesus was planning his return. Why did not not awaken YOU, you could not have read enough of it. Most people who "read" chunks of it close it up as satanic because it contains information that defies the conditioning of the boxes they wear on their heads. that does not make it satanci.

Satanists are retarded fuck heads. They do not know about the higher realms because they have never lived in the, including your invisible satans.
They could not provide 2000 pages of the quality of detail that is in that book. They do not know the science in it, they do not know of the Central Universe, they do not know or understand how all of the creation is managed and governed and by whom. They are ocmpletely incapable of writing such a thing.

The problem with Christians is they are so completely mind controlled by the vastly inadquate material taught in their religion, from all sources, including those you like to quote here that are full of errors for all reasons.

Man in fact has never before even in the olden days of Atlantis etc been given the detail of the Urantia Book, Walter Russell and others.

Man has to be given books until he can access the Father directly and you can do that,per your claims you have made, so why are you supporting ancients material that is screwed all to hell.

You should not even need the books. Ponder it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5953863


listen. i do not subscribe to the urantia cult.
i have my reasons.
i recommend you run as fast and hard away from that crap as you can.
it's based in vanity and satanic garbage that is as far from God as one can possibly get.
you are not a star seed, you are a child of the Most High God.
remember that.
 Quoting: Salt


I am not a child of the most High. The most Highs are the Constellation Rulers.

I am a full Son of the Creator Father. I am not a child.
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Salt the Urantia Book was given to awaken the star seeds who came in as Jesus was planning his return. Why did not not awaken YOU, you could not have read enough of it. Most people who "read" chunks of it close it up as satanic because it contains information that defies the conditioning of the boxes they wear on their heads. that does not make it satanci.

Satanists are retarded fuck heads. They do not know about the higher realms because they have never lived in the, including your invisible satans.
They could not provide 2000 pages of the quality of detail that is in that book. They do not know the science in it, they do not know of the Central Universe, they do not know or understand how all of the creation is managed and governed and by whom. They are ocmpletely incapable of writing such a thing.

The problem with Christians is they are so completely mind controlled by the vastly inadquate material taught in their religion, from all sources, including those you like to quote here that are full of errors for all reasons.

Man in fact has never before even in the olden days of Atlantis etc been given the detail of the Urantia Book, Walter Russell and others.

Man has to be given books until he can access the Father directly and you can do that,per your claims you have made, so why are you supporting ancients material that is screwed all to hell.

You should not even need the books. Ponder it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5953863


listen. i do not subscribe to the urantia cult.
i have my reasons.
i recommend you run as fast and hard away from that crap as you can.
it's based in vanity and satanic garbage that is as far from God as one can possibly get.
you are not a star seed, you are a child of the Most High God.
remember that.
 Quoting: Salt


I am not a child of the most High. The most Highs are the Constellation Rulers.

I am a full Son of the Creator Father. I am not a child.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5953863


child meaning "offspring"

look, i will not ever buy what you are selling. so save your efforts.

you are an heir to the throne. if you want it. but there is only ONE way to the Father.

the urantia way is a dead end.
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I am a star seed. I am from Paradise which is the center of the Creation, and from which the creational energies originate. , that makes ME a star seed, I am not an evolutionary soul of Planet Earth.
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I am a star seed. I am from Paradise which is the center of the Creation, and from which the creational energies originate. , that makes ME a star seed, I am not an evolutionary soul of Planet Earth.
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well congratulations.
good luck to you.
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Salt, I know my history, I went thru all of MIchael's schools, then the superuniverse schools, then the Havona schools. I did all that already. I am done with it. I am graduated of all of it. You cannot tell me that I have to repeat the journey I also took, which Jesus as Esu already took too., We are not baby souls here. We are from Paradise. It is obvious you are the one missing the knowing.
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by your rules, the entire creation and all its angels are satanic which would have to, by your definition include Jesus.
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Salt, I know my history, I went thru all of MIchael's schools, then the superuniverse schools, then the Havona schools. I did all that already. I am done with it. I am graduated of all of it. You cannot tell me that I have to repeat the journey I also took, which Jesus as Esu already took too., We are not baby souls here. We are from Paradise. It is obvious you are the one missing the knowing.
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i am not telling you anything.
kindly remove your talons from the flesh in my back
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Salt, I know my history, I went thru all of MIchael's schools, then the superuniverse schools, then the Havona schools. I did all that already. I am done with it. I am graduated of all of it. You cannot tell me that I have to repeat the journey I also took, which Jesus as Esu already took too., We are not baby souls here. We are from Paradise. It is obvious you are the one missing the knowing.
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i am not telling you anything.
kindly remove your talons from the flesh in my back
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what talons, you just informed the whole world at glp that every one but the Father is demonic.
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Salt, I know my history, I went thru all of MIchael's schools, then the superuniverse schools, then the Havona schools. I did all that already. I am done with it. I am graduated of all of it. You cannot tell me that I have to repeat the journey I also took, which Jesus as Esu already took too., We are not baby souls here. We are from Paradise. It is obvious you are the one missing the knowing.
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i am not telling you anything.
kindly remove your talons from the flesh in my back
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what talons, you just informed the whole world at glp that every one but the Father is demonic.
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nope. i said that if you are praying, if you are not praying to the Father, then you are praying to the enemy.
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have you ever read the urantia book? How can you judge it. Please explain to us here who love it what is wrong with it, assuming you read it.
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I too have read Urantia. I'll admit it's interesting, and I'll admit that I think there's a lot of it that is very "Truthy" or in the Ballpark, so to speak, but I do NOT for one moment think it is anything more than either a fanwank or information channeled from negative entitites.

It's right up there with Mormonism, Scientology and Islam.

And I'm super, super tired of the two Urantia fanatics on this site quoting from it like it's unamiously approved gospel from the highest mountain of truth headquarters.

If you've stopped seeking, you've settled for lies. Period.
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have you ever read the urantia book? How can you judge it. Please explain to us here who love it what is wrong with it, assuming you read it.
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I too have read Urantia. I'll admit it's interesting, and I'll admit that I think there's a lot of it that is very "Truthy" or in the Ballpark, so to speak, but I do NOT for one moment think it is anything more than either a fanwank or information channeled from negative entitites.

It's right up there with Mormonism, Scientology and Islam.

And I'm super, super tired of the two Urantia fanatics on this site quoting from it like it's unamiously approved gospel from the highest mountain of truth headquarters.

If you've stopped seeking, you've settled for lies. Period.
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{roaring applause)
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I am a star seed. I am from Paradise which is the center of the Creation, and from which the creational energies originate. , that makes ME a star seed, I am not an evolutionary soul of Planet Earth.
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Oh, shit, I didn't realize, sorry. I take it all back.

Did I mention that I am a Nebulonic Astromensch from the Galactic Supertronic University of Kaliyuma Stellerosity?

I don't know if that outranks you or not, but when I put on my appellettes I look really cool.
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I am a star seed. I am from Paradise which is the center of the Creation, and from which the creational energies originate. , that makes ME a star seed, I am not an evolutionary soul of Planet Earth.
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Oh, shit, I didn't realize, sorry. I take it all back.

Did I mention that I am a Nebulonic Astromensch from the Galactic Supertronic University of Kaliyuma Stellerosity?

I don't know if that outranks you or not, but when I put on my appellettes I look really cool.
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rockon
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have you ever read the urantia book? How can you judge it. Please explain to us here who love it what is wrong with it, assuming you read it.
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I too have read Urantia. I'll admit it's interesting, and I'll admit that I think there's a lot of it that is very "Truthy" or in the Ballpark, so to speak, but I do NOT for one moment think it is anything more than either a fanwank or information channeled from negative entitites.

It's right up there with Mormonism, Scientology and Islam.

And I'm super, super tired of the two Urantia fanatics on this site quoting from it like it's unamiously approved gospel from the highest mountain of truth headquarters.

If you've stopped seeking, you've settled for lies. Period.
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you make that statment because of your ignorance as to HOW it was given. It is too complex to be given by "negative" entities. I bet you haven't read the whole thing either.
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A and E are Achetypes. They are pop culture for how we got started, go along and how we mess up. Verily I say unto thee.
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have you ever read the urantia book? How can you judge it. Please explain to us here who love it what is wrong with it, assuming you read it.
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I too have read Urantia. I'll admit it's interesting, and I'll admit that I think there's a lot of it that is very "Truthy" or in the Ballpark, so to speak, but I do NOT for one moment think it is anything more than either a fanwank or information channeled from negative entitites.

It's right up there with Mormonism, Scientology and Islam.

And I'm super, super tired of the two Urantia fanatics on this site quoting from it like it's unamiously approved gospel from the highest mountain of truth headquarters.

If you've stopped seeking, you've settled for lies. Period.
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you make that statment because of your ignorance as to HOW it was given. It is too complex to be given by "negative" entities. I bet you haven't read the whole thing either.
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too complex for negative entities?
wow, you are new, right?
negative entities were around since near the beginning.
from where they are sitting, they know incredible manipulative tactics.

too bad you are falling for them hook line and sinker.

the cult is based in vanity.
one of the seven deadlies.

sever yourself from it before you lose your head completely.
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you make that statment because of your ignorance as to HOW it was given. It is too complex to be given by "negative" entities. I bet you haven't read the whole thing either.
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On the contrary, Deception is the number one tool of negative entities, and Lucifer is a beautiful angel of light, and the most intelligent of all Angels.

I have read the whole thing, though the eyes did water up and blur over certain sections, and it was all a long time ago.

Again, interesting material, but to be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism.
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Now, back to crazy talk:

Adam and Eve were first *man* not "The first Man"

The number of their years is the number of Sars of their run on Planet EArth while the Earth was in a Transitional phase from Paradise to Fallen State.

The story of the fall, the apple, the tree is an analogy of the fall from one-mindedness to bi-cameral mind, the Kundalini serpent being thrown to the "Earth" Chakra and the apple being the Pineal Gland. The tree is the brain.

As above, so below...there was also a rebellion on Earth against God at the same time...these things manifest together in correspondence...and it caused formerly spiritual beings in matter to become material beings with spirit.

Genesis is a weaving of correspondences into an encoded amalgam for the initiated, and a cute bedtime story for children on the surface.

Most people mock the children's story because they don't know the encoded amalgam, or that there is one.

those people are what I think of as cannon fodder.