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Now, back to crazy talk:

Adam and Eve were first *man* not "The first Man"

The number of their years is the number of Sars of their run on Planet EArth while the Earth was in a Transitional phase from Paradise to Fallen State.

The story of the fall, the apple, the tree is an analogy of the fall from one-mindedness to bi-cameral mind, the Kundalini serpent being thrown to the "Earth" Chakra and the apple being the Pineal Gland. The tree is the brain.

As above, so below...there was also a rebellion on Earth against God at the same time...these things manifest together in correspondence...and it caused formerly spiritual beings in matter to become material beings with spirit.

Genesis is a weaving of correspondences into an encoded amalgam for the initiated, and a cute bedtime story for children on the surface.

Most people mock the children's story because they don't know the encoded amalgam, or that there is one.

those people are what I think of as cannon fodder.
 Quoting: Lada D


yeah? or maybe it is what it is?

i am a literalist.

and no, it wasn't about the apple.
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God created man on the 6th day.

A day for God is 1000ish years on Earth.

Genesis say's Adam was created from Dust.

So maybe they "evolved" or God just poofed them into existence.

Eve was created from Adam, God took Adams rib.

The Greek word for rib also means bend, like a double helix.

I don't know if Genisis was literal or hugely symbolic.

But it does state that Adam lived to 930 years Genesis 5:5.

Back then their was no pollution, radiation, and the ferment or ozone was total.
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The great minds that thought all this up the geniuses partly to blame for the children dying in the Middle East on both sides.

And a simple question if one year for god is "1000is" years on earth then why didnt he just say 1000 years.
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there is a reason why a "day" is translated as a day.

and knowing the history of mankind, these things are not just "thought up"

oral tradition was a science.
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there is a reason why a "day" is translated as a day.

and knowing the history of mankind, these things are not just "thought up"

oral tradition was a science.
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Yes. Most of the Torah is a treatise on Anatomy and physiology.

The Temple, for example, and the Ark of the Covenant, and the ARk of Noah...anytime the Bible offers up measurements and specifications, rest assured there is a physical correspondence to the Human body.

The Body is the Temple of God.

There is also some history recorded and amalgamized, woven into the narrative.

Jerusalem is the "navel of the Earth" interesting choice of words...the location by which we are fed from our Mothers and nourished as fetuses, prior to our birth.

The Place where God and Man interact.
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there is a reason why a "day" is translated as a day.

and knowing the history of mankind, these things are not just "thought up"

oral tradition was a science.
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Yes. Most of the Torah is a treatise on Anatomy and physiology.

The Temple, for example, and the Ark of the Covenant, and the ARk of Noah...anytime the Bible offers up measurements and specifications, rest assured there is a physical correspondence to the Human body.

The Body is the Temple of God.

There is also some history recorded and amalgamized, woven into the narrative.

Jerusalem is the "navel of the Earth" interesting choice of words...the location by which we are fed from our Mothers and nourished as fetuses, prior to our birth.

The Place where God and Man interact.
 Quoting: Lada D


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Houston we have a problem!

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
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Funny I never caught that before

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Interesting, who are the "our". That would seem to suggest that there are other gods
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God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit. The Bible states plainly that The Word, Jesus, was there since the beginning, hence, so was The Holy Spirit. They are the Trinity and have always been..."I Am".
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have you ever read the urantia book? How can you judge it. Please explain to us here who love it what is wrong with it, assuming you read it.
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I too have read Urantia. I'll admit it's interesting, and I'll admit that I think there's a lot of it that is very "Truthy" or in the Ballpark, so to speak, but I do NOT for one moment think it is anything more than either a fanwank or information channeled from negative entitites.

It's right up there with Mormonism, Scientology and Islam.

And I'm super, super tired of the two Urantia fanatics on this site quoting from it like it's unamiously approved gospel from the highest mountain of truth headquarters.

If you've stopped seeking, you've settled for lies. Period.
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{roaring applause)
 Quoting: Salt


i second that^^^
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Muslims say Adam was from Sri-Lanka and Eve was from African Red Sea coast, they met somewhere in modern day Baghdad after five hundred years of wandering upon Earth.
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Which just further illustrates how majorly f##ked up Muslims are! LOL
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Re: adam and eve question
the portion of genesis that said man never saw the sun, moon , stars, is about the great flood, which took down the firmament which was a act of war. Most christians falsely assume GOD did it, but creator does not such thing. It was a battle which which the vapor barrier was taken down on purpose to help destroy the planet. It was thugs that did it. that is why the rain for 40 days.

Genesis was nothing to do with how creation came about.
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those who reject Urantia because it doesn't agree with their mind control, do not know god.
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Houston we have a problem!

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661



Funny I never caught that before

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Interesting, who are the "our". That would seem to suggest that there are other gods
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25677410


God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit. The Bible states plainly that The Word, Jesus, was there since the beginning, hence, so was The Holy Spirit. They are the Trinity and have always been..."I Am".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28282451


Jesus was not 2nd person trinity, which cannot visit earth., you are ignorant, and so truth is given but you prefer the fairy tales your Khazar devils put into the bible. That is YOUR problem. Those that can reason have some idea of what the Father IS, reject your shit. And we reject it because WE KNOW.

The bible is a terrible resource about the nature of God. Some of earths other holy books are far better but still deficient and screwed up. All of you who cling to the bible shit on your other brothers and sisters around the world.

You cannot call the bible the word of God and also call Jesus the word of God. the statements are not compatible.
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those who reject Urantia because it doesn't agree with their mind control, do not know god.
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Wow, straight out of the Cult 101 playbook. Well done.
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the portion of genesis that said man never saw the sun, moon , stars, is about the great flood, which took down the firmament which was a act of war. Most christians falsely assume GOD did it, but creator does not such thing. It was a battle which which the vapor barrier was taken down on purpose to help destroy the planet. It was thugs that did it. that is why the rain for 40 days.

Genesis was nothing to do with how creation came about.
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yeah, that's wrong.
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please give a demonstration of what is satanic in it the urantia book? you must have valid knowledge to debunk it.
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straight off the top, it is completely contrary to scripture. next, it operates from satanic methods. third, it offers destructive testimony.

urantia is false.
 Quoting: Salt


sorry but this general statement does not qualify as proper debate.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Am not religious, but happy to talk about it. A story is a story and has its roots somewhere.

The A & E issue has always spurned more questions than answers, especially the icky ones about further procreation.

The easiest way I see to keep your story intact, is to add a letter 's' to each name.

You then get the Adam's and the Eve's. Makes a tonne more sense and explain blood types and genetic diversification.

As far as time frames go, cant suggest anything there? I would have suggested reading other religious books that have similar stories, like many of the Islamic texts, but that doesnt seem to go down too well on this site...
It's all about the 'vibe'
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God took Adam's breath away at 930 years, some 70 years short of 1,000 years so with the 1,000 years is as 1 day with God Adam did die on the same day he ate.
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God took Adam's breath away at 930 years, some 70 years short of 1,000 years so with the 1,000 years is as 1 day with God Adam did die on the same day he ate.
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That's a brain twister?!
It's all about the 'vibe'
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how old were they when died what died from and where did they come from1dunno1
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I do know this ON THE DAY THEY PARTOOK OF THE FRUIT they did NOT DIE on THAT day!
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how old were they when died what died from and where did they come from1dunno1
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I do know this ON THE DAY THEY PARTOOK OF THE FRUIT they did NOT DIE on THAT day!
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they partook of NO fruit. But they lowered themselves to regular man instead of super human. Eve was persuaded by Caligastia to have sex outside her marriage, which mucked up the plan of adding the violet DNA to the DNA streams of mankind. Adam in his love for Eve and to share her fate, turned around and did the same thing. They lost their eternal forms, bodies in the process. They each lived to be several hundred years old.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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God took Adam's breath away at 930 years, some 70 years short of 1,000 years so with the 1,000 years is as 1 day with God Adam did die on the same day he ate.
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No. 1000 years as a "day" of God, has no meaning whatsoever except it refers to the length of a year of the inner most of the 7 circuits of planets in the Central Universe of Havona. This takes that circuit 1000 earth years to orbit paradise. So it is used as the standard of time in Paradise for the 1 billion perfected worlds in the 7 circuits.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Am not religious, but happy to talk about it. A story is a story and has its roots somewhere.

The A & E issue has always spurned more questions than answers, especially the icky ones about further procreation.

The easiest way I see to keep your story intact, is to add a letter 's' to each name.

You then get the Adam's and the Eve's. Makes a tonne more sense and explain blood types and genetic diversification.

As far as time frames go, cant suggest anything there? I would have suggested reading other religious books that have similar stories, like many of the Islamic texts, but that doesnt seem to go down too well on this site...
 Quoting: BadHairDay


on this site, most will not read anything else. Adams and Eves though is very well said on your part, did you find a memory somewhere? Because they are Sons/Daughters of God who are born on the System Capital worlds. Man's races are of 6 basic colors (and blends thereof). Red thru Indigo. The Adams and Eves are of the Violet Color and of very fine DNA and a pair of them go to all worlds when evolution is "done" of man, and uplift the DNA. Plus they teach, built global universities and stuff like that.

they are a CLASS or GROUP of beings, and not the names of the Ones we Got on this world 38,000 years ago.

The Adam/EVE couple that comes to each world, breed amongst themselves until the are 1/2 a million to 1 million of them, before they are allowed to breed with the best races of man. They always glow because of their high DNA.

They suffer no genetic imbalances from this. Their children obviously marry each other, and then as generations go on you have the grandchild intermarrying also.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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Salt the Urantia Book was given to awaken the star seeds who came in as Jesus was planning his return. Why did not not awaken YOU, you could not have read enough of it. Most people who "read" chunks of it close it up as satanic because it contains information that defies the conditioning of the boxes they wear on their heads. that does not make it satanci.

Satanists are retarded fuck heads. They do not know about the higher realms because they have never lived in the, including your invisible satans.
They could not provide 2000 pages of the quality of detail that is in that book. They do not know the science in it, they do not know of the Central Universe, they do not know or understand how all of the creation is managed and governed and by whom. They are ocmpletely incapable of writing such a thing.

The problem with Christians is they are so completely mind controlled by the vastly inadquate material taught in their religion, from all sources, including those you like to quote here that are full of errors for all reasons.

Man in fact has never before even in the olden days of Atlantis etc been given the detail of the Urantia Book, Walter Russell and others.

Man has to be given books until he can access the Father directly and you can do that,per your claims you have made, so why are you supporting ancients material that is screwed all to hell.

You should not even need the books. Ponder it.
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listen. i do not subscribe to the urantia cult.
i have my reasons.
i recommend you run as fast and hard away from that crap as you can.
it's based in vanity and satanic garbage that is as far from God as one can possibly get.
you are not a star seed, you are a child of the Most High God.
remember that.
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I am not a child of the most High. The most Highs are the Constellation Rulers.

I am a full Son of the Creator Father. I am not a child.
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child meaning "offspring"

look, i will not ever buy what you are selling. so save your efforts.

you are an heir to the throne. if you want it. but there is only ONE way to the Father.

the urantia way is a dead end.
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The urantia book is a book on cosmology. it is not a book of religion. No where does it say its the way. You have proven you have NOT read hardly any of it.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Salt, I know my history, I went thru all of MIchael's schools, then the superuniverse schools, then the Havona schools. I did all that already. I am done with it. I am graduated of all of it. You cannot tell me that I have to repeat the journey I also took, which Jesus as Esu already took too., We are not baby souls here. We are from Paradise. It is obvious you are the one missing the knowing.
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i am not telling you anything.
kindly remove your talons from the flesh in my back
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what talons, you just informed the whole world at glp that every one but the Father is demonic.
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nope. i said that if you are praying, if you are not praying to the Father, then you are praying to the enemy.
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Nope that is NOT what you said Salt. And you have mucked up this one too. Look at it carefully. You did not improve on it. Its just as bad. I shows you have no knowledge of all the other folks one can pray too, in terms of "talking" with them. In this you have stated Jesus is the enemy to those that pray to him. Why not be quiet so that you do make a complete fool of yourself.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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We pray to the father *in the name of* Jesus Christ.

We do not pray to Jesus, or Mary, or Saints.

Faith in Christ, and his sacrifice, sort of puts a bubble of "Good" around our prayers. Our prayers do not reach the Holy father without faith in Christ to cleanse us of our sins.

We call out to Christ to save us, but this is not a prayer but an invocation with acquiescence to Possession. Sounds spooky but this is the one possession you want to have.

Once done, faith assures that Christ is working his will through us, even the least of us (like me, for example).

One thing I like about Urantia, and rings true, is the idea that there were originally a BUNCH more races, including the Orange and the Blue peoples. This makes a lot of sense out of Hindu/Indian/Rama art/legend/lore.
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We pray to the father *in the name of* Jesus Christ.

We do not pray to Jesus, or Mary, or Saints.

Faith in Christ, and his sacrifice, sort of puts a bubble of "Good" around our prayers. Our prayers do not reach the Holy father without faith in Christ to cleanse us of our sins.

We call out to Christ to save us, but this is not a prayer but an invocation with acquiescence to Possession. Sounds spooky but this is the one possession you want to have.

Once done, faith assures that Christ is working his will through us, even the least of us (like me, for example).

One thing I like about Urantia, and rings true, is the idea that there were originally a BUNCH more races, including the Orange and the Blue peoples. This makes a lot of sense out of Hindu/Indian/Rama art/legend/lore.
 Quoting: Lada D


More Christian BS. god shut up
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread

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