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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1044117 11/22/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can you kill a person who never existed. Quoting: Half Past Midnight Reminds me of the MASH episode where Hawkeye invented a Captain Tuttle to give money to (for the orphans). Everyone kept hearing all these wonderful things of Tuttle who was never around because he was doing great deeds. Finally, they had to make Tuttle 'die' because they couldn't produce a [live]body. After a funeral or something, they were interviewing the rest of the MASH unit & people were saying how they liked him & stuff. But he never existed. I looked for youtube but couldn't find any. It aired a few weeks ago. MASH remains classic. |
| joejoe (OP) User ID: 22083480 11/22/2012 02:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22083480 don't ask you how you know what? the only thing that is utterly apparent is that you are a moran. disagree? give me some detailed points on which i can challenge you on rather than calling the whole thing crap. there are links to mainstream articles, and logical posts. and then there is your drivel. Is that right? Moran [sic]? I think you need to understand that there are some of us who know more than you do because we have intimate and first-hand knowledge, while you are on some sort of delusional schoolboy fantasy. What happened was a lot of hard work with people risking their lives, but that's just something that comes with the job. Ever heard of deep cover? I know what that means all too well. moran is a glp term. look it up. still, you give nothing... oh, am i supposed to believe that you are privileged to some top secret classified info from your friends uncle who is stationed at a top secret base in bumble fuck egypt? (or jordan). all i can infer from your post is that you believe the official story, that seal team six actually did kill the already deceased osama bin laden. yes? anything else? Info from "my friend's uncle" would be no less solid than the crap you are posting. And if you want to know about "bumble fuck", whatever the hell you imagine that to be, I think I may have been to a couple of those as well. Secret bases in Egypt or Jordan...are you really serious? LOL Goes without saying that I shouldn't even been arguing here with armchair google experts such as OP. I've been serving in "bumble fuck" for a while and it just rankles my ass that such self appointed authorities feel compelled to discredit some hard work that goes way beyond your fantasies. Hell, I'm just NOC...go for it schoolboy. i've been to egypt and i've been to jordan and i wouldn't consider my self at all an authority on those places... were you in pakistan when this farce was said to have gone down? are you a member of seal team 6? please, your ad hominem attacks only expose you. enjoy. Last Edited by joejoe on 11/22/2012 02:50 PM the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28289120 11/22/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one puts all of an elite SEAL team that is years in the making in one chopper in a high risk area. The name of the mission Neptune Spear should be an indication of the intent to serve the dark one under maritime law. happens to the SAS worryingly often, due to the fact that there ARENT THAT MANY HELICOPTERS TO GO ROUND OPEN UR EYES |
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| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 11/22/2012 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wouldn't surprise me that he was killed years ago and they kept him alive to support the war on terror. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483 However, there is so many third party and non direct sources that confirm this whole situation, so you basically have to be a retard conspiracy drone to think this didn't happen. Much like the Moon landings, there is just to much third party data to support it really happening. I'm sure the whole thing happened, it just wasn't Osama. It was just some fall guy. Probably even looked like Osama. Seal Team might have even thought it was Osama -- they're taking orders, they're told the intel. "Here's the compound, go kill the guy in it." No one is doubting it happened. It was next to a Pakistani military base, easy place to stage the whole thing. not sure about your theory but some dude named Biff Spackle sent Doug Ross a picture of the dead 'Bin Laden' and something floating in the ocean (could be anything) [link to directorblue.blogspot.com] "If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." Gary Allen NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY |
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| joejoe (OP) User ID: 22083480 11/22/2012 03:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wouldn't surprise me that he was killed years ago and they kept him alive to support the war on terror. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483 However, there is so many third party and non direct sources that confirm this whole situation, so you basically have to be a retard conspiracy drone to think this didn't happen. Much like the Moon landings, there is just to much third party data to support it really happening. I'm sure the whole thing happened, it just wasn't Osama. It was just some fall guy. Probably even looked like Osama. Seal Team might have even thought it was Osama -- they're taking orders, they're told the intel. "Here's the compound, go kill the guy in it." No one is doubting it happened. It was next to a Pakistani military base, easy place to stage the whole thing. not sure about your theory but some dude named Biff Spackle sent Doug Ross a picture of the dead 'Bin Laden' and something floating in the ocean (could be anything) [link to directorblue.blogspot.com] that photo looks nothing like bin laden... the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team |
| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 11/22/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wouldn't surprise me that he was killed years ago and they kept him alive to support the war on terror. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483 However, there is so many third party and non direct sources that confirm this whole situation, so you basically have to be a retard conspiracy drone to think this didn't happen. Much like the Moon landings, there is just to much third party data to support it really happening. I'm sure the whole thing happened, it just wasn't Osama. It was just some fall guy. Probably even looked like Osama. Seal Team might have even thought it was Osama -- they're taking orders, they're told the intel. "Here's the compound, go kill the guy in it." No one is doubting it happened. It was next to a Pakistani military base, easy place to stage the whole thing. not sure about your theory but some dude named Biff Spackle sent Doug Ross a picture of the dead 'Bin Laden' and something floating in the ocean (could be anything) [link to directorblue.blogspot.com] that photo looks nothing like bin laden... I agree. I was just going off Super Bowl Dave's theory that it may have been someone who looked like him. I thought the entire story was bs from the beginning and the fact that Beck, Breibart and almost every talking head on the right never questioned it, has me flabbergasted. How could they not question something that was so obvious? Last Edited by RTS REDUX on 11/22/2012 05:14 PM "If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." Gary Allen NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199661 11/22/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lies the Obama Administration have repeatedly told will HAVE to catch up with them! They just have too! Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra Why? The lies don't catch up with the other administrations. ie 911 yeah,, what about that...I haven't heard much about that...did it ever really happen? |
| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 11/22/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the entire story was bs from the beginning and the fact that Beck, Breibart and almost every talking head on the right never questioned it, has me flabbergasted. Quoting: RTS REDUX How could they not question something that was so obvious? it's on Drudge and the Blaze has a story up but very few conservatives sites have mentioned it. nothing on Breibart Last Edited by RTS REDUX on 11/22/2012 05:15 PM "If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." Gary Allen NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY |
| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 28271734 11/22/2012 04:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Osama is where he has always been-Miami. Close to good health care at the Fla. Mayo. (Every time I type that I hear "Miami" in Fiona's voice from Burn Notice) Last Edited by zenobiaphobia on 11/22/2012 04:16 PM Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to archive.org] |
| Pyractomena borealis User ID: 20793638 11/22/2012 04:58 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiction to start peace. Obama is afraid and could not, would not speak the truth about 9/11. Our leaders are cowards. Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton Intellectual vanity, complicating simple issues and simplifying complicated ones ~ James Taranto If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'move from here' and it will move - Gospel of Thomas |
| joejoe (OP) User ID: 22083480 11/22/2012 05:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiction to start peace. Quoting: Pyractomena borealis Obama is afraid and could not, would not speak the truth about 9/11. Our leaders are cowards. would not is more like it. he is not afraid. he is part of the machine... is that not obvious? the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team |
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| Pyractomena borealis User ID: 20793638 11/22/2012 05:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiction to start peace. Quoting: Pyractomena borealis Obama is afraid and could not, would not speak the truth about 9/11. Our leaders are cowards. would not is more like it. he is not afraid. he is part of the machine... is that not obvious? Obama's mentors are William Ayers and the Rev. Wright, both vehement Anti-Zionists. Google prairie fire. Deep chess going on here. Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton Intellectual vanity, complicating simple issues and simplifying complicated ones ~ James Taranto If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'move from here' and it will move - Gospel of Thomas |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened. Can anyone recall if Saddam was given a burial at sea after he was hanged? Of course not. It was never reported because it is irrelevant. |
| joejoe (OP) User ID: 22083480 11/22/2012 05:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened. yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered... the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened. yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered... the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28018721 11/22/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bin Laden was a CIA agent the whole time. The US government faked his death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28278245 they faked his death because he was already long dead. they just needed to keep him (the boogey man) around to scare the sheeple into continuing to give up their rights and freedoms. once people starting getting wise to the fake OBL videos and recordings, "they" realized OBL's shelf life was running out, so they sat on this bullshit story, an ace up their sleeve, ready to roll out when they needed too. Funny that you, I, and everyone else here knows that, but the MSM will never touch it. Utterly disgusting... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1102890 11/22/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 13 The Beast from the Sea 1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the 1seashore. Then I saw a a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. 2 And the beast which I saw was alike a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of ca lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority. 3 I saw one of his heads as if it had been 1slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast. |
| joejoe (OP) User ID: 22083480 11/22/2012 06:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened. yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered... the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen. there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him. i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already. for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media" the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bin Laden was a CIA agent the whole time. The US government faked his death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28278245 they faked his death because he was already long dead. they just needed to keep him (the boogey man) around to scare the sheeple into continuing to give up their rights and freedoms. once people starting getting wise to the fake OBL videos and recordings, "they" realized OBL's shelf life was running out, so they sat on this bullshit story, an ace up their sleeve, ready to roll out when they needed too. Funny that you, I, and everyone else here knows that, but the MSM will never touch it. Utterly disgusting... Even some of the most hard core defenders of the US gov't have said that this entire story smells of bullshit. Speaking of fake OBL videos, remember the one that came out a few days before the '04 election that gave Bush the needed push to beat Kerry? How convenient. I have a feeling that at one time a guy name Osama Bin Laden existed, maybe back in the 1980s during the Afghan/Soviet war. However, he was probably killed in battle during those days. Later, the US with the help of CGI experts working for the CIA concocted the myth that we knew as Osama Bin Laden. Did you guys ever notice how poor the video quality of the OBL videos was? Remember that high quality camcorders are available world wide so why would OBL's videos be so shitty? They were purposely done that way so that the CGI part of it would not show through. The CIA probably had CGI experts from LucasFilm contracted to do the videos. After producing the videos, the experts probably met untimely "accidents" so that they could not be witnesses. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened. yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered... the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen. there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him. i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already. for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media" I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them. |
| joejoe (OP) User ID: 22083480 11/22/2012 06:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: joejoe yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered... the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen. there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him. i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already. for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media" I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them. i think OBL was around and working for the cia (in one way or another) until his death in 2002. then, after that, they faked the videos and recordings... the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26167151 11/22/2012 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151 You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen. there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him. i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already. for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media" I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them. i think OBL was around and working for the cia (in one way or another) until his death in 2002. then, after that, they faked the videos and recordings... It is possible that at some point OBL decided to no longer comply with the CIA and they killed him. Then after that, they CGI'ed him. Funny how two wars now, Vietnam and the Iraq/Afghan/Middle-East have been fought against two leaders who were former CIA operatives. Ho Chi Minh was a US operative who fought alongside the US to liberate Vietnam from French rule. OBL fought alongside US-backed rebels against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Funny isn't it? Funny indeed. |