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none of the crew on USS Carl Vinson witnessed Osama Bin Laden's burial at sea

 
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How could he be buried at sea when the CIA agent Usama damnedBin Ladin was placed in the White House under the name Barrack Obama.
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It wouldn't surprise me that he was killed years ago and they kept him alive to support the war on terror.

However, there is so many third party and non direct sources that confirm this whole situation, so you basically have to be a retard conspiracy drone to think this didn't happen. Much like the Moon landings, there is just to much third party data to support it really happening.
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I'm sure the whole thing happened, it just wasn't Osama. It was just some fall guy. Probably even looked like Osama. Seal Team might have even thought it was Osama -- they're taking orders, they're told the intel. "Here's the compound, go kill the guy in it."

No one is doubting it happened. It was next to a Pakistani military base, easy place to stage the whole thing.
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not sure about your theory but some dude named Biff Spackle sent Doug Ross a picture of the dead 'Bin Laden' and something floating in the ocean (could be anything)

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How could he be buried at sea when the CIA agent Usama damnedBin Ladin was placed in the White House under the name Barrack Obama.
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Already debunked, you retard.

Move on to something else.
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It wouldn't surprise me that he was killed years ago and they kept him alive to support the war on terror.

However, there is so many third party and non direct sources that confirm this whole situation, so you basically have to be a retard conspiracy drone to think this didn't happen. Much like the Moon landings, there is just to much third party data to support it really happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483


I'm sure the whole thing happened, it just wasn't Osama. It was just some fall guy. Probably even looked like Osama. Seal Team might have even thought it was Osama -- they're taking orders, they're told the intel. "Here's the compound, go kill the guy in it."

No one is doubting it happened. It was next to a Pakistani military base, easy place to stage the whole thing.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


not sure about your theory but some dude named Biff Spackle sent Doug Ross a picture of the dead 'Bin Laden' and something floating in the ocean (could be anything)

[link to directorblue.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


that photo looks nothing like bin laden...
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It wouldn't surprise me that he was killed years ago and they kept him alive to support the war on terror.

However, there is so many third party and non direct sources that confirm this whole situation, so you basically have to be a retard conspiracy drone to think this didn't happen. Much like the Moon landings, there is just to much third party data to support it really happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483


I'm sure the whole thing happened, it just wasn't Osama. It was just some fall guy. Probably even looked like Osama. Seal Team might have even thought it was Osama -- they're taking orders, they're told the intel. "Here's the compound, go kill the guy in it."

No one is doubting it happened. It was next to a Pakistani military base, easy place to stage the whole thing.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


not sure about your theory but some dude named Biff Spackle sent Doug Ross a picture of the dead 'Bin Laden' and something floating in the ocean (could be anything)

[link to directorblue.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


that photo looks nothing like bin laden...
 Quoting: joejoe


I agree. I was just going off Super Bowl Dave's theory that it may have been someone who looked like him.

I thought the entire story was bs from the beginning and the fact that Beck, Breibart and almost every talking head on the right never questioned it, has me flabbergasted.

How could they not question something that was so obvious?

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Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

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It was so secret it didn't even happen...
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is that top secret classified?
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The lies the Obama Administration have repeatedly told will HAVE to catch up with them! They just have too!
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Why? The lies don't catch up with the other administrations. ie 911
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yeah,, what about that...I haven't heard much about that...did it ever really happen?
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I thought the entire story was bs from the beginning and the fact that Beck, Breibart and almost every talking head on the right never questioned it, has me flabbergasted.

How could they not question something that was so obvious?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


it's on Drudge and the Blaze has a story up but very few conservatives sites have mentioned it.

nothing on Breibart

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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Osama is where he has always been-Miami. Close to good health care at the Fla. Mayo. (Every time I type that I hear "Miami" in Fiona's voice from Burn Notice)

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Fiction to start peace.

Obama is afraid and could not, would not speak the truth about 9/11.

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Fiction to start peace.

Obama is afraid and could not, would not speak the truth about 9/11.

Our leaders are cowards.
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would not is more like it. he is not afraid. he is part of the machine... is that not obvious?
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Can't see what does not exist
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Fiction to start peace.

Obama is afraid and could not, would not speak the truth about 9/11.

Our leaders are cowards.
 Quoting: Pyractomena borealis


would not is more like it. he is not afraid. he is part of the machine... is that not obvious?
 Quoting: joejoe


Obama's mentors are William Ayers and the Rev. Wright, both vehement Anti-Zionists. Google prairie fire.

Deep chess going on here.
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Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration.
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Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration.
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One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened.
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Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration.
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One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened.
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Can anyone recall if Saddam was given a burial at sea after he was hanged? Of course not. It was never reported because it is irrelevant.
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Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened.
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yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered...

the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful
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Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened.
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yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered...

the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful
 Quoting: joejoe


You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen.
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Bin Laden was a CIA agent the whole time. The US government faked his death.
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they faked his death because he was already long dead. they just needed to keep him (the boogey man) around to scare the sheeple into continuing to give up their rights and freedoms.

once people starting getting wise to the fake OBL videos and recordings, "they" realized OBL's shelf life was running out, so they sat on this bullshit story, an ace up their sleeve, ready to roll out when they needed too.
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Funny that you, I, and everyone else here knows that, but the MSM will never touch it.

Utterly disgusting...
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1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the 1seashore. Then I saw a a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names.

2 And the beast which I saw was alike a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of ca lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority.

3 I saw one of his heads as if it had been 1slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast.
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Let me ask you guys something. Why the fuck would we be concerned with Islamic burial rituals when burying a mass murderer? Bin Laden was partially responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11 and several thousand others. They buried him at sea like some great general or military hero. What a bunch of bullshit. This whole story of burial at sea should have raised a bunch of red flags but the media didn't even care. There is so much mystery surrounding the entire Bin Laden raid and subsequent burial at sea that it is clear, at least to me, that none of it happened. The entire thing was a fabrication of the Oblabla administration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered...

the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful
 Quoting: joejoe


You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen.
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there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him.

i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already.

for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media"
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Bin Laden was a CIA agent the whole time. The US government faked his death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28278245


they faked his death because he was already long dead. they just needed to keep him (the boogey man) around to scare the sheeple into continuing to give up their rights and freedoms.

once people starting getting wise to the fake OBL videos and recordings, "they" realized OBL's shelf life was running out, so they sat on this bullshit story, an ace up their sleeve, ready to roll out when they needed too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22083480


Funny that you, I, and everyone else here knows that, but the MSM will never touch it.

Utterly disgusting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28018721


Even some of the most hard core defenders of the US gov't have said that this entire story smells of bullshit. Speaking of fake OBL videos, remember the one that came out a few days before the '04 election that gave Bush the needed push to beat Kerry? How convenient.

I have a feeling that at one time a guy name Osama Bin Laden existed, maybe back in the 1980s during the Afghan/Soviet war. However, he was probably killed in battle during those days. Later, the US with the help of CGI experts working for the CIA concocted the myth that we knew as Osama Bin Laden. Did you guys ever notice how poor the video quality of the OBL videos was? Remember that high quality camcorders are available world wide so why would OBL's videos be so shitty? They were purposely done that way so that the CGI part of it would not show through. The CIA probably had CGI experts from LucasFilm contracted to do the videos. After producing the videos, the experts probably met untimely "accidents" so that they could not be witnesses.
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One more thing to add. After the various Taliban and Saddam leaders were killed, did they ever report how they were buried? Of course not. So why was this burial story concocted? So that no one would ask to see the body. It is clear that this entire Bin Laden capture never happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered...

the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful
 Quoting: joejoe


You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him.

i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already.

for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media"
 Quoting: joejoe


I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them.
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yes, and add to that, the reasoning not to release photos was some bullshit about not wanting to upset muslims, if i remember correctly. not to mention that such photos never existed as far as what the article of the newly released emails says... and, it didn't stop them from releasing photos of sadamms sons after they were murdered...

the problem is that most people are not paying attention and don't care... dumbed down and blissful
 Quoting: joejoe


You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him.

i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already.

for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media"
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I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them.
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i think OBL was around and working for the cia (in one way or another) until his death in 2002. then, after that, they faked the videos and recordings...
the 2 party system is a sham--both sides are puppets playing for the same team
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sorry, i replied to the wrong post above...
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one last bump before bed
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You make a great point about the photos of Saddam's sons being released but not Bin Laden's. How it is that no one in the media cares is beyond me. What does the admin have on the media that no one speaks against Obama? Even the old school media hounds like Dan Rather are following along, lock-step. It is very unnerving because if the admin decides to turn on the citizens of this country in a major way, the media will just let it happen.
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there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him.

i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already.

for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media"
 Quoting: joejoe


I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


i think OBL was around and working for the cia (in one way or another) until his death in 2002. then, after that, they faked the videos and recordings...
 Quoting: joejoe


It is possible that at some point OBL decided to no longer comply with the CIA and they killed him. Then after that, they CGI'ed him. Funny how two wars now, Vietnam and the Iraq/Afghan/Middle-East have been fought against two leaders who were former CIA operatives. Ho Chi Minh was a US operative who fought alongside the US to liberate Vietnam from French rule. OBL fought alongside US-backed rebels against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Funny isn't it? Funny indeed.
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there is no more real journalism. it is all controlled today. just look at paul craig roberts who was the father or reaganonmics and later an editor of the wall street journal. he talks about 911 being an inside job, as well as the real deal with the economy and the banker bailout scams, but nobody publishes him anymore. he is too credible to call crazy and marginalize like charlie sheen, etc, so they just choose to ignore him and not publish him.

i think, these days, the higher ups in all the media conglomerates control everything. from the editors on up, they decide what is news and what isn't, and they "train" their journalist to report what the editors want, and to spin it the way the editors want. it is done rather skillfully--through manipulation and psychology in some instances, unless the journalist is a bought out shill already.

for example, if the journalist publishes something that strays from the talking points, the editor might send the article back, and tell the so-called journalist that the angle is wrong, maybe punishing them for not doing a good job. but when the so-called journalist follows the talking point, they get a pat on the back. eventually the "bad" journalists get fired and the "good" ones get promoted. this is easy these days because the incredibly few corps owning most of the news and media outlets--something that wasn't the case 20 years ago when there was regulation not allowing this to happen... it is an interesting thing to research. you can google things like, "who owns the news" or "who owns the media"
 Quoting: joejoe


I actually have looked into who owns the major news outlets and something like five companies control 95% of the media. It is ridiculous to say the least. The one thing that those companies fear more than anything is the internet. There is no way to control the internet like they control the media. So they keep coming up with social media sites like MySpace, Facebook, and back in the day, AOLOnline to concentrate internet traffic and spew their rhetoric there. However, those things have not been very successful so the word about how crooked the gov't is keeps getting out. As the people turn more and more to the internet for news, the MSM is being marginalized. Soon no one will listen to the MSM and the government's house of cards will fall in on them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26167151


i think OBL was around and working for the cia (in one way or another) until his death in 2002. then, after that, they faked the videos and recordings...
 Quoting: joejoe


It is possible that at some point OBL decided to no longer comply with the CIA and they killed him. Then after that, they CGI'ed him. Funny how two wars now, Vietnam and the Iraq/Afghan/Middle-East have been fought against two leaders who were former CIA operatives. Ho Chi Minh was a US operative who fought alongside the US to liberate Vietnam from French rule. OBL fought alongside US-backed rebels against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Funny isn't it? Funny indeed.
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11/23/2012 08:56 AM
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yeah, funny in a disgusting kind of way.
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