There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

There's no such thing as "God's chosen people" either.

Stop spreading propaganda and do some REAL RESEARCH.

WTF is this shit?

There was no Is-ra-HELL before 1947 either!

So, who occupied that land?
British?!!?

Haha...Yea right.

WE MUST WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP FOR THE SAKE OF OUR FUTURE!

This has always been where the worlds scum take control!

They are racist, hateful SOBs!

WE MUST STOP THEM!

truth

What did you say OP?

[link to www.palestineremembered.com]

Oh, I can give websites too claiming 'facts'

Yeah ''Palestine'' is a artificialy created concept. Just like Israel. And USA. And all the other countries

Yea right. Better learn some history. Ever heard of the Ottoman empire?
I am always amazed how many totally clueless people think they can participate in a discussion about Palestine without having even a basic historical understanding.

How much Mossad is paying per hour?


I'm in need for some extra cash...

Ugh - you completely missed the point!

*bashes head against the wall*

Yes, the world during the 1100's or prior is the same world as now.

The Israel that existed then, is the same as now?!

GET A FUCKING CLUE!!!!

You have been sooo manipulated.

How the fuck can such a small land control the world for so long?

Wake the fuck up!

Give them a break, it wasn't taught to us in public school!!! But it is free on the Internet, people can go read!!

So when again and by whom was the "nation of Palestine" founded again?

+1

I am green pinning this so people can know the truth. The question is can handle the truth!

Good man.



Boy oh boy, this thread sure captured the undivided attention of all the illiterate Jew-haters...

Yeah, because you can't read either.

When it comes to issues like this, neither history or reason and logic are important to the discussion. As we have two different religions competing the most important part of the arguement is who can attract the most attention by the shrillness of their insults. If you want to discuss Palestine you absolutely must not learn history it can be confusing, especially if its lessons conflict with foregone conclusions.

Well pick up your Airsoft Liberator and go for it, sparky.

OH IF THERE WAS NO PLACE AS PALESTINE THEN WHO WERE THE PHILISTINIANS THE ROMANS WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT LIVED IN PHILISTINE?

RACIST IDIOT.

The name Palestine in reference to the area we now know as Israel goes back more than 2500 years. Stating it's a British term is very misleading OP.

March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:


The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.


For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

Cite.

The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was never ruled by Arabs as a separate nation.

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You know, I can read two websites.
One that says the holocaust was real, the other fake.

Don't be claiming opinion as fact OP!

The current Israel is not the same people as those in the bible. They have adopted the religion as their own. They are Zionists, not the same thing. The orthodox Jews are the closest modern day people.And they do not believe in a state of Israel, they believe they are to be nomads by devine decree untill the coming.

Someone got my point of saying you cannot relate history to present day.

I am citing historical fact. You are stating your opinion. They are not of equal intellectual weight.

and the truth is ....

Cite.

“Palestine” is the name that the Romans gave to the land of Israel when they conquered this land 2000 years ago.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” nation.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” state.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” kingdom.
* There were never in the history of the world “Palestinian” kings.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” capital.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” essence.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” heritage.
* There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” culture.
The “Palestinians” are Arabs who were brought to the region by the Ottoman empire as part of the Muslim occupation in the region. They are definitely not the tribes from Crete who settled down in the 5 cities of Gaza strip after the Exodus of Israel from Egypt. These tribes were called Philistines and they weren’t Arabs at all and the nowadays “Palestinians” are definitely not their descendants. The Philistines don’t exist as a nation nowadays.

There’s no “Palestinian”nation but an ARAB one which went out of the Arabian Peninsula and occupied dozens of lands, including the land of Israel.

The Arabs who were living in the land of Israel started to call themselves “Palestinians” only after the establishment of Israel in 1948 and prior to it they called themselves just ‘Arabs’ and this is how they called their organizations (‘Arab Higher Committee’) and their struggles (‘The Great Arab Revolt’) and nick named the land of Israel in different names such as ‘Southern Syria’.

In Herodotus’ ‘History’ we read that the Philistines once inhabited the southern coast of today’s Israel. They lived in a region spoken of in the Old Testament as Peleshet, a Hebrew name, often translated as: Land of the Philistines, Philistia or Palestine (see for example: Genesis 21:32, Isaiah 14:29 and Psalm 60:8)