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There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

 
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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so much of the worlds troubles have been breed by colonialism
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So many of the world's troubles have been bred by lack of historical education and a ridiculous entitlement mentality.
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example... please provide example
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I cite as proof this thread and the morons who reject the sum total of all of recorded human history.
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A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

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 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


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What´s the purpose of this debate? clarify who has the right to exterminate the other?

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No, it's a matter of private property and ownership law.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


OP who owned your property before the English got there. I say it wasn't you or your family, SO LET THE AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE IT BACK. I SAY RISE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER AND GET OP'S PROPERTY AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS TRULY OURS.. How redundant op.. Your argument is stupid.
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Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

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11/22/2012 12:40 PM
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Really?

Oh, OK, thanks for countering the cited material so eloquently.

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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
No, as far as Israel is concerned, they are free to return or leave to any country that will have them.

The problem, of course, is that their Arab brethren want nothing to do with them, and won't let them come one.

Why don't you take it up with them?
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


You have a warped perception of what has been going on in the Palestinian region since 48. Paestinian "ARABS" have been forced out of their homes when many of them lived in these places for generations.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26766683


And the homes they lived in were built on land stolen from Jews. They made bad decisions betting that the owners of the stolen land would never return. They lost.

Sick burn.

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 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



That is what this all comes down to.


Those who believe the Arabs already living there deserve to continue living there.

Those who believe the Zionists should rightfully take "their" land back.



The problem is, the arabs never "stole" anything. The land went through MANY transitions, many "empires" "authority".




It would be like the native americans, acquiring weapons of destruction, destroying the cities of the US, and taking it back.


So you are saying the arabs should have "known better".


By that argument, should WE be in fear of the native americans someday acquiring this land back? You are scaring me!
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The real question is why are the zionists so obsessed with controlling this area?
wouldn't it have make much more sense that they seetled in some random state in america, whom came to their rescure in WW2, or simply go back to russia where they came from before seetlng in germany and all over europe. Why choice the middle east?

What good did they actually think would come out of that, there gotta be some agenda behind that decision, other than their own thousand year old self written propheties. All the misery that have come from this, to both their own and the muslims, let alone the trail this conflict have left all over the world. it doesn't make any sense.

And who are the people behind the zionist movement we always hear about on sites like this, how did they became so powerful that they pretty much control the whole western world, and how is it that noone actually know anything about them. Ask any random person at work if they know about the zionists and they will stare back with a blank look. I dunno what to think of it all.
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Here is a statement posted by someone else on this forum, (sorry, they gave no link):

"President (Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad said the cruelty in Gaza should unite Muslims. He said he welcomes the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, but he seems to not be very optimistic about the ceasefire," a TV anchor for the station said."

Just as the 'terrorist state' is used to create an illusion of unity in the U.S. (us v.s. them) in perpetual war, all of us know it is a war in futility and is used to further (hidden) causes, i.e.)power, control and greed. Same here for the Muslim world. Keeping Gaza as a 'victim' creates the same illusion and also keeps them as pawns against a hated enemy in the Jews and also for power, control and greed.

It is all political and has now created division in the world and a sympathy to their (hidden) cause.

In Christianity, it is Satan's way of trying to annihilate any remnant to be here for Jesus Christ's return.

In either viewpoint, both are players in a bigger scheme, both man's and God's.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
so much of the worlds troubles have been breed by colonialism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17430724


So many of the world's troubles have been bred by lack of historical education and a ridiculous entitlement mentality.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



example... please provide example
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I cite as proof this thread and the morons who reject the sum total of all of recorded human history.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


oh... I get it the jews got it coming to them mentality that resulted in the UN founding of Israhel in 1948

k gottcha

jew entitlement is good

u fail
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How then, Carshy, are any settlers in the United States entitled to ANY land here?

Sure, we have land deeds, and a "government" that says it is rightfully ours.

But the Native Americans had this land , as far as we know, for at least 10 to 20,000 years before we ever stepped foot here, and probably longer , if we take their history into account and not just what we can prove.


What do you have to say to that? While you are comfortable in your snug home, on Thanksgiving, with your children and wife, enjoying a big fat dinner, and the Native American people STILL suffer to this day.
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What´s the purpose of this debate? clarify who has the right to exterminate the other?

 Quoting: Njosnavelin


No, it's a matter of private property and ownership law.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


OP who owned your property before the English got there. I say it wasn't you or your family, SO LET THE AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE IT BACK. I SAY RISE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER AND GET OP'S PROPERTY AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS TRULY OURS.. How redundant op.. Your argument is stupid.
 Quoting: Mahala


Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

drinks
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses away... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!

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By that argument, should WE be in fear of the native americans someday acquiring this land back? You are scaring me!
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Not the Native Americans.
The Anunnaki!

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By that argument, should WE be in fear of the native americans someday acquiring this land back? You are scaring me!
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Not the Native Americans.
The Anunnaki!

alien16 alien16 alien16 ahhh
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh




Well if the Annunaki try to take my land, I will fight for it.

Am I wrong for fighting?

Would you fight? lol
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No, it's a matter of private property and ownership law.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


OP who owned your property before the English got there. I say it wasn't you or your family, SO LET THE AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE IT BACK. I SAY RISE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER AND GET OP'S PROPERTY AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS TRULY OURS.. How redundant op.. Your argument is stupid.
 Quoting: Mahala


Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

drinks
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
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OP, you just should ask what the white khazar/caucasian people doing in arab heartland. There were never white "jews" in Palestine...until the bankers decided to create "israel" for the white khazarians.

If 10 000 swedish people converts to shintoism (Japanese religion) do they have the right to move to Japan and occupy some Japanese land?
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Well if the Annunaki try to take my land, I will fight for it.

Am I wrong for fighting?

Would you fight? lol
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Not if they showed me historical proof of ownership.

I'd go off-world in a heartbeat.
I heard Mars is lovely this time of year.

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By that argument, should WE be in fear of the native americans someday acquiring this land back? You are scaring me!
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Not the Native Americans.
The Anunnaki!

alien16 alien16 alien16 ahhh
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
Herodotus, Greek Historian (c. 484 - 425 BC)

Herodotus 3.5.1 writes:

ἀπὸ γὰρ Φοινίκης μέχρι οὔρων τῶν Καδύτιος πόλιος ἐστὶ Σύρων τῶν Παλαιστίνω&​#957; καλεομένων

the country from Phoenicia to the borders of the city Cadytis [Gaza] belongs to the people called the Palestine Syrians
(Ref: Perseus for the Greek/Rawlinson translation)

and

Φοίνικες δὲ καὶ Σύροι οἱ ἐν τῇ Παλαιστίνῃ​ καὶ αὐτοὶ ὁμολογέουσ​ι
The Phenicians and the Syrians who dwell in Palestine

(Ref: Macauley translation)


In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian (r. 117 - 138 AD) blotted out the name “Provincia Judea” and renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina". Hadrian had an historical reason for naming the province Palaestina (i.e. he didn't just make it up) - refer to Herodotus writings in the 5th Century BC.


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Anyway, I don't have a "side", as I pointed out. I'm much more concerned about MY house, MY neighborhood, and MY country.


I just think it is an interesting issue.

Personally, I don't think the Zionists NOR the Arabs are truly entitled either way. Nor can anyone "prove" who is entitled.

I do feel injustices being caused on BOTH sides.

I also personally know Jews and Muslims alike (not many, but yes Ive met a few of each), who don't take either side.

This is a struggle of power. Zionists vs. Muslim extremists. Not Jew vs. Arab, as everyone thinks. They are just caught in the struggle.


Like when the US went to war in Iraq. That doesn't mean the whole American population wanted to take over, or fight in Iraq. Nor did the civilians in Iraq want a conflict. It was 2 world powers, struggling with each other, and a bunch of everyday people caught in the crossfire (thankfully not so much over on OUR soil, thank GOD)
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OP who owned your property before the English got there. I say it wasn't you or your family, SO LET THE AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE IT BACK. I SAY RISE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER AND GET OP'S PROPERTY AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS TRULY OURS.. How redundant op.. Your argument is stupid.
 Quoting: Mahala


Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

drinks
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
Vincent Price - “A man who limits his interests, limits his life.”
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trying to stir up the injuns ?

Manifest destiny is American

no place for israel there
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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OP, you just should ask what the white khazar/caucasian people doing in arab heartland. There were never white "jews" in Palestine...until the bankers decided to create "israel" for the white khazarians.

If 10 000 swedish people converts to shintoism (Japanese religion) do they have the right to move to Japan and occupy some Japanese land?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611


Shintoism holds no deed to any land. Deeds are governmental and familial.

If, however, you can get your ass elected Pope, you own the Vatican. There's a goal for you.

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LOL, the above 'greek' characters are literally what this website is translating from Greek language!! I should have known better than to attempt to insert Greek language!

The translation is there tho :)

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And the bible isn't a real estate contract either.
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There's no such thing as "God's chosen people" either.

Stop spreading propaganda and do some REAL RESEARCH.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
Well if the Annunaki try to take my land, I will fight for it.

Am I wrong for fighting?

Would you fight? lol
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Not if they showed me historical proof of ownership.

I'd go off-world in a heartbeat.
I heard Mars is lovely this time of year.

:martian:
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You are in the minority.

Many Americans wouldn't give up their land to some off-world settlers who "claim" the United States is theirs. Regardless if they showed us some ancient tablets that say they were here before even the native americans, lol.


So would you actually condemn the Americans who choose to stay here and fight? That's sad.
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op is ignorant and racist.
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Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

drinks
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

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VIVA PALISTINA!!!!
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

[link to mytorah.wordpress.com]

[link to www.wnd.com]

[link to www.factsandlogic.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

[link to mytorah.wordpress.com]

[link to www.wnd.com]

[link to www.factsandlogic.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.
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op is ignorant and racist.
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That's ironic coming from an illiterate Nazi.

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