There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

I cite as proof this thread and the morons who reject the sum total of all of recorded human history.

pure

Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

Really?

Oh, OK, thanks for countering the cited material so eloquently.

That is what this all comes down to.


Those who believe the Arabs already living there deserve to continue living there.

Those who believe the Zionists should rightfully take "their" land back.



The problem is, the arabs never "stole" anything. The land went through MANY transitions, many "empires" "authority".




It would be like the native americans, acquiring weapons of destruction, destroying the cities of the US, and taking it back.


So you are saying the arabs should have "known better".


By that argument, should WE be in fear of the native americans someday acquiring this land back? You are scaring me!

Here is a statement posted by someone else on this forum, (sorry, they gave no link):

"President (Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad said the cruelty in Gaza should unite Muslims. He said he welcomes the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, but he seems to not be very optimistic about the ceasefire," a TV anchor for the station said."

Just as the 'terrorist state' is used to create an illusion of unity in the U.S. (us v.s. them) in perpetual war, all of us know it is a war in futility and is used to further (hidden) causes, i.e.)power, control and greed. Same here for the Muslim world. Keeping Gaza as a 'victim' creates the same illusion and also keeps them as pawns against a hated enemy in the Jews and also for power, control and greed.

It is all political and has now created division in the world and a sympathy to their (hidden) cause.

In Christianity, it is Satan's way of trying to annihilate any remnant to be here for Jesus Christ's return.

In either viewpoint, both are players in a bigger scheme, both man's and God's.

oh... I get it the jews got it coming to them mentality that resulted in the UN founding of Israhel in 1948

k gottcha

jew entitlement is good

u fail

How then, Carshy, are any settlers in the United States entitled to ANY land here?

Sure, we have land deeds, and a "government" that says it is rightfully ours.

But the Native Americans had this land , as far as we know, for at least 10 to 20,000 years before we ever stepped foot here, and probably longer , if we take their history into account and not just what we can prove.


What do you have to say to that? While you are comfortable in your snug home, on Thanksgiving, with your children and wife, enjoying a big fat dinner, and the Native American people STILL suffer to this day.

I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses away... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!

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Not the Native Americans.
The Anunnaki!

Well if the Annunaki try to take my land, I will fight for it.

Am I wrong for fighting?

Would you fight? lol

You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.

OP, you just should ask what the white khazar/caucasian people doing in arab heartland. There were never white "jews" in Palestine...until the bankers decided to create "israel" for the white khazarians.

If 10 000 swedish people converts to shintoism (Japanese religion) do they have the right to move to Japan and occupy some Japanese land?

Not if they showed me historical proof of ownership.

I'd go off-world in a heartbeat.
I heard Mars is lovely this time of year.

Herodotus, Greek Historian (c. 484 - 425 BC)

Herodotus 3.5.1 writes:

ἀπὸ γὰρ Φοινίκης μέχρι οὔρων τῶν Καδύτιος πόλιος ἐστὶ Σύρων τῶν Παλαιστίνω&​#957; καλεομένων
​
the country from Phoenicia to the borders of the city Cadytis [Gaza] belongs to the people called the Palestine Syrians
(Ref: Perseus for the Greek/Rawlinson translation)

and

Φοίνικες δὲ καὶ Σύροι οἱ ἐν τῇ Παλαιστίνῃ​ καὶ αὐτοὶ ὁμολογέουσ​ι
The Phenicians and the Syrians who dwell in Palestine

(Ref: Macauley translation)


In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian (r. 117 - 138 AD) blotted out the name “Provincia Judea” and renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina". Hadrian had an historical reason for naming the province Palaestina (i.e. he didn't just make it up) - refer to Herodotus writings in the 5th Century BC.


Kismet

Anyway, I don't have a "side", as I pointed out. I'm much more concerned about MY house, MY neighborhood, and MY country.


I just think it is an interesting issue.

Personally, I don't think the Zionists NOR the Arabs are truly entitled either way. Nor can anyone "prove" who is entitled.

I do feel injustices being caused on BOTH sides.

I also personally know Jews and Muslims alike (not many, but yes Ive met a few of each), who don't take either side.

This is a struggle of power. Zionists vs. Muslim extremists. Not Jew vs. Arab, as everyone thinks. They are just caught in the struggle.


Like when the US went to war in Iraq. That doesn't mean the whole American population wanted to take over, or fight in Iraq. Nor did the civilians in Iraq want a conflict. It was 2 world powers, struggling with each other, and a bunch of everyday people caught in the crossfire (thankfully not so much over on OUR soil, thank GOD)

No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!

trying to stir up the injuns ?

Manifest destiny is American

no place for israel there

Shintoism holds no deed to any land. Deeds are governmental and familial.

If, however, you can get your ass elected Pope, you own the Vatican. There's a goal for you.

LOL, the above 'greek' characters are literally what this website is translating from Greek language!! I should have known better than to attempt to insert Greek language!

The translation is there tho :)

Kismet

And the bible isn't a real estate contract either.

Truth

You are in the minority.

Many Americans wouldn't give up their land to some off-world settlers who "claim" the United States is theirs. Regardless if they showed us some ancient tablets that say they were here before even the native americans, lol.


So would you actually condemn the Americans who choose to stay here and fight? That's sad.

op is ignorant and racist.

You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

VIVA PALISTINA!!!!

So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.

So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.

That's ironic coming from an illiterate Nazi.