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There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

 
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

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So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.
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I know for a fact Swedes are not this stupid.

What shithole country did you ooze into Sweden from?
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I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

beer
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Obviously you're missing my point, but than again maybe you're not, cause what I point out is hitting close to your home. Plus again History Books, if you only knew about Custer, I believe he got his ass kicked/killed for killing women and children. Read up more son and by the way butt hurt much!
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having. I brought up the same point, so obviously YOUR words let to the induction of them in this thread.



Also, if you REALLY cared about the issue, you wouldn't just make a thread to argue YOUR point. You should actually continue researching, learning, and coming up with new ideas that would form an even better opinion on the issue than you have now. That is what people do when they are trying to "learn".


You aren't trying to learn, you are trying to prove your point. By doing so, you are only looking at YOUR facts, YOUR data, and not only dismissing that of others, but insulting them in nearly every reply post of yours. Why?
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You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

beer
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Obviously you're missing my point, but than again maybe you're not, cause what I point out is hitting close to your home. Plus again History Books, if you only knew about Custer, I believe he got his ass kicked/killed for killing women and children. Read up more son and by the way butt hurt much!
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You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

:beer:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Obviously you're missing my point, but than again maybe you're not, cause what I point out is hitting close to your home. Plus again History Books, if you only knew about Custer, I believe he got his ass kicked/killed for killing women and children. Read up more son and by the way butt hurt much!
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Notice how he didn't tell anyone else to "start their own thread"?

He sees your point, but he is in defensive mode. He created this thread for one purpose, and one purpose only. To attack those who think differently then him.

There is no real active debate here, because of his use of insults, attempt at using poor humor to alter the subject on that which he can't contest, and the lack of admission of other people's information into the convervsation.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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11/22/2012 12:56 PM
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
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Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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11/22/2012 12:57 PM
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
This thread would be 100x better if it were created by someone Neutral on the issue, and actually willing to induct more educational material into his 'arsenal' for debate or understanding.


Instead, this thread should be titled "Let me beat up on those who don't think the Zionists should destroy the Arabs"


lol ;)
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
I'll repost this (without the Greek this time LOL) so we can wonder why the name Palaestina was associated with a 'people' in the 5th Century BC -


Herodotus, Greek Historian (c. 484 - 425 BC)

Herodotus 3.5.1 writes:

"the country from Phoenicia to the borders of the city Cadytis [Gaza] belongs to the people called the Palestine Syrians"
(Ref: Perseus for the Greek/Rawlinson translation)

and

"The Phenicians and the Syrians who dwell in Palestine"
(Ref: Macauley translation)


In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian (r. 117 - 138 AD) blotted out the name “Provincia Judea” and renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina". Hadrian had an historical reason for naming the province Palaestina (i.e. he didn't just make it up) and it could quite possibly be the writings of Herodotus in the 5th Century BC.

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Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
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Not everyone is like your mom.
Some of us don't have to get paid to screw with retards.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
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The Arabs who were living in the land of Israel started to call themselves “Palestinians” only after the establishment of Israel in 1948 and prior to it they called themselves just ‘Arabs’ and this is how they called their organizations (‘Arab Higher Committee’) and their struggles (‘The Great Arab Revolt’) and nick named the land of Israel in different names such as ‘Southern Syria’.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

That's funny because if I look at a map of the world pre world war 2 there is a big country called palestine, what's also funny is nowhere on the map is a place called israel.

According to you mapmakers 70 years ago were wrong iamwith

What you are posting is pure propoganda.
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You can't read.
lolatu
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


What's funny, I can read fine, just because someone wrote something doesn't make it true. The stuff you posted is absolute bullshit, as are the articles you linked to.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
The Jewish People are an "invention" too. According an Israeli scholar at that!

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"Sand began his work by looking for research studies about forcible exile of Jews from the area now bordered by modern Israel, and its surrounding regions. He was astonished that he could find no such literature, he says, given that the expulsion of Jews from the region is viewed as a constitutive event in Jewish history. The conclusion he came to from his subsequent investigation is that the expulsion simply didn't happen, that no one exiled the Jewish people from the region, and that the Diaspora is essentially a modern invention. He accounts for the appearance of millions of Jews around the Mediterranean and elsewhere as something that came about primarily through the religious conversion of local people, saying that Judaism, contrary to popular opinion, was very much a "converting religion" in former times. He holds that mass conversions were first brought about by the Hasmoneans under the influence of Hellenism, and continued until Christianity rose to dominance in the fourth century CE."
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
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Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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The only reason you would ever have a concept of "ownership" of land, is if you plan to take land from others by force, or you assume others will do the same.


You do realize that although they didn't believe they "owned" the land, they had their own territories , right? There were MANY different native american tribes, some as huge as what, 25,000-50,000, who had THIER land, ownership or not. Other tribes didn't randomly come into their land and try to occupy it, they would still protect the land they were living on.

You are arguing foolish points here, and you know it.

The issue ISN'T different. Only superficially.
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This thread would be 100x better if it were created by someone Neutral on the issue, and actually willing to induct more educational material into his 'arsenal' for debate or understanding.
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So, what's stopping you from citing something?
Others have done so.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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Coastal native Americans weren't nomadic, but than again, we here move from state to state looking for work, so in the sense that's nomadic. Again read your books. Not the comic ones.kapoow
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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The only reason you would ever have a concept of "ownership" of land, is if you plan to take land from others by force, or you assume others will do the same.


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Non-sequitur, unfounded assertion, no supporting evidence.

Next.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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Oh yeah?..lol
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
No, as far as Israel is concerned, they are free to return or leave to any country that will have them.

The problem, of course, is that their Arab brethren want nothing to do with them, and won't let them come one.

Why don't you take it up with them?
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You have a warped perception of what has been going on in the Palestinian region since 48. Paestinian "ARABS" have been forced out of their homes when many of them lived in these places for generations.

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And the homes they lived in were built on land stolen from Jews. They made bad decisions betting that the owners of the stolen land would never return. They lost.

Sick burn.

lol
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Who did the chosen people of G-d steel it from?
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Canaan after conquering the land in 1272 B.C.E., Jews ruled it for a thousand years and maintained a continuous presence there for 3,300 years.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Coastal native Americans weren't nomadic, but than again, we here move from state to state looking for work, so in the sense that's nomadic. Again read your books. Not the comic ones.kapoow
 Quoting: Mahala


Where's your written documents where you recorded deeds of ownership?

Oh, right. No written language, no contact law, no concept of private property.

I suppose you feel cheated that white men are also using the electromagnetic spectrum without paying you for it, even though your people never built a radio or had any such concept.

Give it up, Debates With A Limp.
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does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
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Not everyone is like your mom.
Some of us don't have to get paid to screw with retards.
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but you choose to be a hasbara tool?

why is that?

are you a jew?
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its all moses' fault.
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does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17430724


Not everyone is like your mom.
Some of us don't have to get paid to screw with retards.
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but you choose to be a hasbara tool?

why is that?

are you a jew?
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lolatu

This is awesome!

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Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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its all moses' fault.
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Actually blame Abraham.
Or go all the way back and take it up with God.
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Coastal native Americans weren't nomadic, but than again, we here move from state to state looking for work, so in the sense that's nomadic. Again read your books. Not the comic ones.kapoow
 Quoting: Mahala


Where's your written documents where you recorded deeds of ownership?

Oh, right. No written language, no contact law, no concept of private property.

I suppose you feel cheated that white men are also using the electromagnetic spectrum without paying you for it, even though your people never built a radio or had any such concept.

Give it up, Debates With A Limp.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

Nope don't feel cheated. I feel sick that bible thumpers came to this territory and brought diseases and took land that wasn't theirs and called people savages and those same people fight over the lands and die over a book that should be lived by. The ones that took children from families and adopted them out to be slaves. The ones that bred people like you. I don't care what religion or what nationality you are. Live to live, love to love and take care of mother earth.
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its all moses' fault.
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once again some fucken Egyptians save the virulent heeb bastards from extinction
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does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17430724


Not everyone is like your mom.
Some of us don't have to get paid to screw with retards.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


but you choose to be a hasbara tool?

why is that?

are you a jew?
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lolatu

This is awesome!

1rof1
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side step u bitch.. pretty soon you'll be tap dancin to my tune
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.
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THANK YOU!!!
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ooooooooo
so whats been going on there is okayyyyyy...
i am glad we cleared that up.
idiot
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its all moses' fault.
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Actually blame Abraham.
Or go all the way back and take it up with God.
:god:
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ur jew god is a lie and a fraud

poor christians
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ooooooooo
so whats been going on there is okayyyyyy...
i am glad we cleared that up.
idiot
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Just because you can't read doesn't mean people who can are cheating.
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