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There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

 
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Anyway, I don't have a "side", as I pointed out. I'm much more concerned about MY house, MY neighborhood, and MY country.


I just think it is an interesting issue.

Personally, I don't think the Zionists NOR the Arabs are truly entitled either way. Nor can anyone "prove" who is entitled.

I do feel injustices being caused on BOTH sides.

I also personally know Jews and Muslims alike (not many, but yes Ive met a few of each), who don't take either side.

This is a struggle of power. Zionists vs. Muslim extremists. Not Jew vs. Arab, as everyone thinks. They are just caught in the struggle.


Like when the US went to war in Iraq. That doesn't mean the whole American population wanted to take over, or fight in Iraq. Nor did the civilians in Iraq want a conflict. It was 2 world powers, struggling with each other, and a bunch of everyday people caught in the crossfire (thankfully not so much over on OUR soil, thank GOD)
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OP who owned your property before the English got there. I say it wasn't you or your family, SO LET THE AMERICAN INDIANS HAVE IT BACK. I SAY RISE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER AND GET OP'S PROPERTY AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS TRULY OURS.. How redundant op.. Your argument is stupid.
 Quoting: Mahala


Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

drinks
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
trying to stir up the injuns ?

Manifest destiny is American

no place for israel there
Carshy McCarsh  (OP)

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OP, you just should ask what the white khazar/caucasian people doing in arab heartland. There were never white "jews" in Palestine...until the bankers decided to create "israel" for the white khazarians.

If 10 000 swedish people converts to shintoism (Japanese religion) do they have the right to move to Japan and occupy some Japanese land?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611


Shintoism holds no deed to any land. Deeds are governmental and familial.

If, however, you can get your ass elected Pope, you own the Vatican. There's a goal for you.

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LOL, the above 'greek' characters are literally what this website is translating from Greek language!! I should have known better than to attempt to insert Greek language!

The translation is there tho :)

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And the bible isn't a real estate contract either.
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11/22/2012 12:49 PM
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There's no such thing as "God's chosen people" either.

Stop spreading propaganda and do some REAL RESEARCH.
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Truth
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
Well if the Annunaki try to take my land, I will fight for it.

Am I wrong for fighting?

Would you fight? lol
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Not if they showed me historical proof of ownership.

I'd go off-world in a heartbeat.
I heard Mars is lovely this time of year.

:martian:
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You are in the minority.

Many Americans wouldn't give up their land to some off-world settlers who "claim" the United States is theirs. Regardless if they showed us some ancient tablets that say they were here before even the native americans, lol.


So would you actually condemn the Americans who choose to stay here and fight? That's sad.
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op is ignorant and racist.
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Ug, Kimosabe.
Start your own thread on how poorly you've been treated by the white devils. And have a drink on me!

drinks
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

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11/22/2012 12:51 PM
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Re: There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’
VIVA PALISTINA!!!!
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A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

[link to mytorah.wordpress.com]

[link to www.wnd.com]

[link to www.factsandlogic.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.
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A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

[link to mytorah.wordpress.com]

[link to www.wnd.com]

[link to www.factsandlogic.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.
Carshy McCarsh  (OP)

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op is ignorant and racist.
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That's ironic coming from an illiterate Nazi.

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Carshy McCarsh  (OP)

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A lot of people on GLP are very confused as to the "Palestinian" question. Here, read up -

There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

[link to mytorah.wordpress.com]

[link to www.wnd.com]

[link to www.factsandlogic.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



So what.

There is a thing called maimed and killed children at that place, whatever you wish to call it. But perhaps you do not mind them getting killed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27599079


I know for a fact Swedes are not this stupid.

What shithole country did you ooze into Sweden from?
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I don't drink and don't live on the reservation and don't take fed money, but through your argument will take your land when your willing to give someone elses... AGAIN, proof of history books you don't know "JACK"!
 Quoting: Mahala


You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

beer
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Obviously you're missing my point, but than again maybe you're not, cause what I point out is hitting close to your home. Plus again History Books, if you only knew about Custer, I believe he got his ass kicked/killed for killing women and children. Read up more son and by the way butt hurt much!
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His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having. I brought up the same point, so obviously YOUR words let to the induction of them in this thread.



Also, if you REALLY cared about the issue, you wouldn't just make a thread to argue YOUR point. You should actually continue researching, learning, and coming up with new ideas that would form an even better opinion on the issue than you have now. That is what people do when they are trying to "learn".


You aren't trying to learn, you are trying to prove your point. By doing so, you are only looking at YOUR facts, YOUR data, and not only dismissing that of others, but insulting them in nearly every reply post of yours. Why?
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You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

beer
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Obviously you're missing my point, but than again maybe you're not, cause what I point out is hitting close to your home. Plus again History Books, if you only knew about Custer, I believe he got his ass kicked/killed for killing women and children. Read up more son and by the way butt hurt much!
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You must have hit the wrong link.
I said "start your own thread" on this subject and I'll discuss it with you.
Now, back to the casino with you.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No Casino for my kin, again WRONG HISTORY BOOK!
 Quoting: Mahala


You're missing the point again.
Here, let me lay it out for you:
I don't care about you, your background, or your questions that don't relate to this thread.

If you absolutely insist that I start to give a fuck, go start afore-mentioned thread, and I will, General Custer-like, ride right into the middle of it.

But hurry, it's almost noon, and I intend to start drinking and laughing with my own tribe (we're Caucasian-Americans of the Ass Kicking people).

:beer:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Obviously you're missing my point, but than again maybe you're not, cause what I point out is hitting close to your home. Plus again History Books, if you only knew about Custer, I believe he got his ass kicked/killed for killing women and children. Read up more son and by the way butt hurt much!
 Quoting: Mahala




Notice how he didn't tell anyone else to "start their own thread"?

He sees your point, but he is in defensive mode. He created this thread for one purpose, and one purpose only. To attack those who think differently then him.

There is no real active debate here, because of his use of insults, attempt at using poor humor to alter the subject on that which he can't contest, and the lack of admission of other people's information into the convervsation.
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does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
Carshy McCarsh  (OP)

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His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
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Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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This thread would be 100x better if it were created by someone Neutral on the issue, and actually willing to induct more educational material into his 'arsenal' for debate or understanding.


Instead, this thread should be titled "Let me beat up on those who don't think the Zionists should destroy the Arabs"


lol ;)
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I'll repost this (without the Greek this time LOL) so we can wonder why the name Palaestina was associated with a 'people' in the 5th Century BC -


Herodotus, Greek Historian (c. 484 - 425 BC)

Herodotus 3.5.1 writes:

"the country from Phoenicia to the borders of the city Cadytis [Gaza] belongs to the people called the Palestine Syrians"
(Ref: Perseus for the Greek/Rawlinson translation)

and

"The Phenicians and the Syrians who dwell in Palestine"
(Ref: Macauley translation)


In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian (r. 117 - 138 AD) blotted out the name “Provincia Judea” and renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina". Hadrian had an historical reason for naming the province Palaestina (i.e. he didn't just make it up) and it could quite possibly be the writings of Herodotus in the 5th Century BC.

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does your hasbara check have a 401 k OP?

or is this a lump sum shill operation?
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Not everyone is like your mom.
Some of us don't have to get paid to screw with retards.
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The Arabs who were living in the land of Israel started to call themselves “Palestinians” only after the establishment of Israel in 1948 and prior to it they called themselves just ‘Arabs’ and this is how they called their organizations (‘Arab Higher Committee’) and their struggles (‘The Great Arab Revolt’) and nick named the land of Israel in different names such as ‘Southern Syria’.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

That's funny because if I look at a map of the world pre world war 2 there is a big country called palestine, what's also funny is nowhere on the map is a place called israel.

According to you mapmakers 70 years ago were wrong iamwith

What you are posting is pure propoganda.
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You can't read.
lolatu
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


What's funny, I can read fine, just because someone wrote something doesn't make it true. The stuff you posted is absolute bullshit, as are the articles you linked to.
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The Jewish People are an "invention" too. According an Israeli scholar at that!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Sand began his work by looking for research studies about forcible exile of Jews from the area now bordered by modern Israel, and its surrounding regions. He was astonished that he could find no such literature, he says, given that the expulsion of Jews from the region is viewed as a constitutive event in Jewish history. The conclusion he came to from his subsequent investigation is that the expulsion simply didn't happen, that no one exiled the Jewish people from the region, and that the Diaspora is essentially a modern invention. He accounts for the appearance of millions of Jews around the Mediterranean and elsewhere as something that came about primarily through the religious conversion of local people, saying that Judaism, contrary to popular opinion, was very much a "converting religion" in former times. He holds that mass conversions were first brought about by the Hasmoneans under the influence of Hellenism, and continued until Christianity rose to dominance in the fourth century CE."
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His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
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Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
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The only reason you would ever have a concept of "ownership" of land, is if you plan to take land from others by force, or you assume others will do the same.


You do realize that although they didn't believe they "owned" the land, they had their own territories , right? There were MANY different native american tribes, some as huge as what, 25,000-50,000, who had THIER land, ownership or not. Other tribes didn't randomly come into their land and try to occupy it, they would still protect the land they were living on.

You are arguing foolish points here, and you know it.

The issue ISN'T different. Only superficially.
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This thread would be 100x better if it were created by someone Neutral on the issue, and actually willing to induct more educational material into his 'arsenal' for debate or understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


So, what's stopping you from citing something?
Others have done so.
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His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Coastal native Americans weren't nomadic, but than again, we here move from state to state looking for work, so in the sense that's nomadic. Again read your books. Not the comic ones.kapoow
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His point wasn't unrelated to this thread.

The native americans are an analogy for the palestinians, in this debate we are having.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Native Americans were nomadic and had no concept of private property.

It's an un-related subject that only seems related to the severely under-educated.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh





The only reason you would ever have a concept of "ownership" of land, is if you plan to take land from others by force, or you assume others will do the same.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801546


Non-sequitur, unfounded assertion, no supporting evidence.

Next.
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