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When I met George W. Bush...PLEASE READ

 
John Doe
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a recently converted Christian (I got saved at about 4am on 9/11/2001, but that is a different story).
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Please "save us" by not telling us.
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"Was that real?!"
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Prob not, after all, you thought you were "saved" by Jesus.
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All I can remember from your story is this:
“… and was a recently converted Christian …”
So, what (religion) were you BEFORE ?

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You don’t get my pardon J !
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Somewhere between Skull and Bones and the White House more than a few demonic entities have taken up residence in GW Bush. His wife, Laura is no saint, either, for the record.

Haven't you noticed that unlike Clinton and Carter before him, Bush has been carefully kept out of the public eye since he left the White House? Almost like he's in hiding or in treatment (again). Hi alcohol problem is well known and he had years of drug use in college. There is a reason he is being kept out of the public eye. It may be mental illness, or a complete breakdown, or it may be the demonic entities have finally driven him insane.

I do not know the reason. But you can bet there is a good one for a former president to be all but hidden away from the public - especially in an election year such as we just had.

Privately and speaking as another Christian, I would assume the demonic entities in him recognized you as one of Jesus' own. They would automatically hate you for that reason if no other. Demons do not want to be around Christians for any reason. I think it's actually painful for some of them to be near anyone who's heart is the Lord's. Kind of the same reason they don't abduct Christians or if they start to do so and one calls on the name of Jesus, the abduction immediately stops.
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LOL. Yeah OP. Baby Bush KNEW you were going to uncover the secrets of 9-11 in the future (insert eye roll here)

You were 10-years old. Bush looks scary to a 50 year old let alone a 10 year old.
He snorts cocaine or at least, snortted. He was probably having a mood swing IF...your assessment of him is correct.

On a side-note:
The fact that you 'were saved' at 4AM tells me you might be living your life for different reasons (Christ?) with different intent (fearing God) and in a delusional dipped reality so your imagination might be questionable.

Religious people tend to bestow all the power of the Universe over to another Human being (Jesus, Buddha, Allah etc)in a very submissive manner instead of realizing their own incredible power and purpose.
So you already fear authority. Bush was one of authority (although he was a fresh criminal back then) so your impression of him might be different then say, mine!

He's a murdered. Your time would've been better served breaking bread with Charlie Manson!
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he was 19 almost 19 at the time.he wasnt 10 le3arn to read
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Wow, there has been a lot of activity on here since last time I checked in! Unfortunately, we just got home from the holiday stuff so I am exhausted and won't have a chance to read all of it through tonight. I asked my mom and younger brother about it and they don't remember anything of what I experienced, but both remembered when Bush Sr. embarrassed my brother. We all got a kick out of that, and I didn't press the issue any further, because I could tell they thought it was a little crazy. I didn't bring it up with my dad or older brother, either. I just got the feeling to leave it alone after the reaction I got from them and decided to let it go. No one else in my family are Christians, although both of my brothers did profess Christ back when my older brother was in high school and younger was probably 12 (many years before this happened), but they both quickly fizzled away and neither has turned back to the Truth ever since.
It is strange how God works, because when they got "saved", they both harassed me non-stop to go to church with them, and the more they pressed, the more angry it made me and the more I resisted it. I oftentimes wonder how my reaction to them could have steered them away, and how they must feel now, seeing how I have become the "holy roller" of the family. Since then, they both have become really deceived, especially after going through college(like countless others) and it doesn't look like they will be returning to the faith any time soon. My older brother is actually a professor at Ohio State now (Archeology) and I know that one of the main reasons he got into that field of study was to try and disprove the Bible, as it is definitely not approving of his lifestyle (he is gay). I will try to get back on tomorrow or later tonight after I rest for awhile and answer all the questions/feedback/responses. Thanks for the inputs GLP!
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Yerkes, Richard
Professor is this your brother?
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OP I have to relate this. Just happened. My husband was just now telling me a story he heard on the radio yesterday ( we chat in the am while he eats his breakfast before he goes off to work) and the story was about a man who had met George Bush Sr. He talked about how NICE he was to him. Great man and stuff like that. Well, my husband and I both feel that the Bush's are NOT what they appear at all...nice first of all. I had just put up GLP when I turned to hear his story. When I looked back....I saw your thread FIRST! I said "WOW, there is a thread saying When I met George Bush". We loved your story and feel that he MUST have known who you were spiritually. I don't think it was a coincidence we saw your thread...which immediately blew away the "good guy" story we had just been talking about. Thanks! 11:11 we relate it Rev.11:11 and see it all the time too. hf
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LET ME GUESS YOU GOT ABDUCTED, RAPED AND THROWN IN A DITCH?
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Horned George Bush watermark on $20 bill. Wow.
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LET ME GUESS YOU GOT ABDUCTED, RAPED AND THROWN IN A DITCH?
 Quoting: I WOULD NOT WASTE MY TIME 1351603


No that was your mum..
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OP I have to relate this. Just happened. My husband was just now telling me a story he heard on the radio yesterday ( we chat in the am while he eats his breakfast before he goes off to work) and the story was about a man who had met George Bush Sr. He talked about how NICE he was to him. Great man and stuff like that. Well, my husband and I both feel that the Bush's are NOT what they appear at all...nice first of all. I had just put up GLP when I turned to hear his story. When I looked back....I saw your thread FIRST! I said "WOW, there is a thread saying When I met George Bush". We loved your story and feel that he MUST have known who you were spiritually. I don't think it was a coincidence we saw your thread...which immediately blew away the "good guy" story we had just been talking about. Thanks! 11:11 we relate it Rev.11:11 and see it all the time too. hf
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Definitely not a coincidence! I love it when stuff like that happens! Interesting about 11:11 too, I will have to look into that a little more...thanks for sharing! hf
UnmannedAerialPilot (OP)

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All I can remember from your story is this:
“… and was a recently converted Christian …”
So, what (religion) were you BEFORE ?

P.S.
You don’t get my pardon J !
 Quoting: uytrfds 25701329


I answered this back on page 1 near the bottom...I was an atheist, born and raised. Not your average agnostic, apathetic, not sure what I believe...I was hardcore "I hate the thought of God, it offends me and if you believe in it I am going to seek you out and make you look like an idiot for believing such trite" type of atheist.

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Probably upset about your age. Your father probably mentioned "my child" and he was hoping for something under the age of 8 and without body hair.
“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein

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Probably upset about your age. Your father probably mentioned "my child" and he was hoping for something under the age of 8 and without body hair.
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sick fuck! lmao
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It's also possible you were the only "saved" individual in the room.

You said your dad was not religious.

Obviously, Bush, his wife and that whole crowd are demonically possessed.

So you stood out.

It's weird, the more I ponder this, the more I feel like the spiritual aspect of this explains his reaction. It wasn't how you looked or that you may have been older or younger than he expected. If you had been, he would have said so, probably congenially, "Oh, you're younger than I expected."
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I like you, Superbowldave.
you always try hard to find a way to make things make sense hhere in this forum. Thanks. Happy Holidays!!
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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All I can remember from your story is this:
“… and was a recently converted Christian …”
So, what (religion) were you BEFORE ?

P.S.
You don’t get my pardon J !
 Quoting: uytrfds 25701329


I answered this back on page 1 near the bottom...I was an atheist, born and raised. Not your average agnostic, apathetic, not sure what I believe...I was hardcore "I hate the thought of God, it offends me and if you believe in it I am going to seek you out and make you look like an idiot for believing such trite" type of atheist.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


You have used the word "converted" (aka from something to something else); Your explanation is good for "... and I was recently baptized ..."

Gnosticism ( [link to www.jayweidner.com] ) was/is the correct path (and it leaves room for Got too).

good luck anyway...
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Cool story, bro. One hell of a fanfic...

bsflag
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Ok,this event has stuck with me over the years and I have thought about it nearly every day since it happened. I would definitely consider it top 3 weirdest things that have ever happened to me.

Background:

My dad was a Secret Service agent (recently retired) and because of this, I was "privileged" enough to meet a lot of our Presidents/V.P's/dignitaries/etc. None of the times I met any of them was very significant, except for this one:

We went to the White House Christmas Party in December of 2001. I was 18 or 19 at the time (my birthday is the 12th and I don't remember what day the party was), and was a recently converted Christian (I got saved at about 4am on 9/11/2001, but that is a different story). All of the families of the staff and secret service agents got to go to this party, and have their picture taken with President Bush and the First Lady, and we were all standing in line to go in for the picture, before the dinner. The room where they were taking the pictures was a rather large meeting room with nothing in it besides a large Christmas tree, the Bush's, an aid or two and the photographers (and a few SS agents). When we were next in line to go into the room, I heard the President say my name from around the corner "Dan, where is Dan?", the way an uncle would say that before he saw you and then say "there he is" (my name is not Dan, changed for the story). Apparently, (I am assuming this because I have never asked him) my dad told the aid that was taking us into the room my name, and she told the President, and he just said that to try and be affable or friendly or whatever.
I thought right off the bat that was weird because my two brothers were there too, but he only said my name, so I am not sure why my dad only told him my name (if in fact my dad told the aid that).
As we walked around the corner into the room, that is when things took a terrible turn. As I rounded the corner my eyes scanned the room, the first thing I noticed was Laura Bush, smiling, warm and friendly looking. Then I saw President Bush, who, once again said "which one is Dan?" smiling his goofy smile. My dad introduced me first, because he was asking for me, and I will never forget what happened next. His face went from a kidding-around, smiling, joking demeanor to hard and frowning in an instant. The best way I could describe his reaction was if someone introduced you to a person as "here is the person that killed your father". The smile dropped immediately. His face went from friendly and jesting to anger, disgust and almost a "I can't believe you let him in here" type of look. I felt my face flush as I shook his hand and smiled, but inside I wanted to run away as fast as I could. He didn't say a word to me, just stared me down. I have never felt as awkward in my entire life as I did at that moment, and so out of place. The rest of my family shook his hand and his smile and joking manner returned, and I am almost positive that no one else saw what happened, because if they did I am sure they would have said something about it by now. As we walked out of the room I looked back over my shoulder (I was almost in a state of shock at this point) and he was staring at me with that same death-look on his face. We went back into the dining hall and finished dinner, and the whole time it was all that I could think about. "What just happened?!" "Was that real?!" "Did he see some kind of evil in me?!" type questions poured through my thoughts over and over.
Also that night, George H.W. Bush came to the dinner for just a second, said hi, and left. But as he was leaving, he went over to my brother and rubbed his shaved head, making my brother turn a beet-red color and all of the people standing around laughed hysterically. I would have laughed too, if I hadn't been so shaken up by what just happened to me. Instead, I just sat in silence the rest of the night, completely disoriented as to what took place.
Looking back on the whole thing I still have tons of questions that I cannot come up with answers to, like:
If my dad didn't tell him my name, how did he know it?
If my dad did tell him, why did he just tell him my name?
Why did his look/demeanor/everything about him change so violently?
Did my family notice? If so, why have they never said anything about it?
Assuming it did happen like I remember it (which if it didn't I am officially crazy), what does it mean!?!?!
Is it possible that he saw in me something that triggered him to know that I would discover the truth about the NWO,9/11, etc?
Did it have anything to do with me being a Christian? I have read how the devils knew who Jesus was, and even one said "Paul we know, Jesus we know, but who are you?"
Is it possible that it was a demon-type situation that recognized a child of God and got offended?

At the time, I thought he was a stand-up guy, that was a Christian and was going to save our nation from the terrorists that did the attacks on our soil. I know now the truth about 9/11 (I found Loose Change in 2006 and have been researching it since then), and that he was likely a big part of the attacks, not the one to save us from them. Like I said, I think about this nearly every day and still have more questions than answers. Well, that is my story and I am sticking to it, anyone else have similar experiences or any insight into what happened to me? Thanks for reading GLP, you guys rock!
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Assuming this story isn't complete BS, then I'd say you are a schizophrenic.
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I find it passing strange that you have waited years to question your father concerning this......I think Boosh was the worst president in history; however, I must exclaim.....bsflag And Salute !
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You didn't walk up to him like this, did you?

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Sounds like he wanted you to question yourself..
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stop talking shit, thanks
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OK OP, time to tell us about your salvation story....

We are awaiting with bated breath....
SPAWN IS DEAD! LONG LIVE S.O.S. (Son of Spawn)!!!

Don't click it!!!! I'm warning you don't click that link.... no... no... STOP!!!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]
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OK OP, time to tell us about your salvation story....

We are awaiting with bated breath....
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Sorry it has been so long, I am en route to Afghanistan :( I am sure I will have the time to get it done once I am there and (hopefully) bored out of my mind. I haven't forgotten and do apologize for not getting it up last week when I had the chance, I will do it asap!
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Quote from OP:"Is it possible that it was a demon-type situation that recognized a child of God and got offended?"

This is it.
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yup.

Thread: John Lear is wrong about Christ (much as I like him) :)
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as a saved person you actually have angels with you who's presence will likely disturb a demonically influenced person...

see Earthquake Kelly's testimonies for more on this...

(I have similar story to tell that would sound really odd and like I was crazy, so I know how you feel...)

and yes, tell us the story of how you came to be saved...

God bless...

:)
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There have been times in my life when I have met someone, and instantly known that the person would be a VERY important person at some later point - for good or evil - whether they would be important to me personally, or to the 'world' / community / other people in general.

I knew when I met my ex-wife that she was going to play a major role in my life, and not for the better - although I did not fully understand this until years later. This is how these 'after the fact' realizations of what you already knew usually happen.

I knew when I met my current wife that she was going to play a major role in my life, but this time FOR the better. 20 years later this has been proven time and again.

There have been other people along the way. The guy who I trained at my old job, and I was 'led' to refrain from teaching him certain things or letting him in on 'the quirks' of our various jobs. In time he became our supervisor - and our jobs were far better protected for not having let him in on some of our activities (nothing profound, just ways to make our jobs easier).

The same thing happened when I saw Barack Obama elected to the U.S. senate. I had an uneasy feeling that this man's importance was going to be FAR greater than just a simple senator. I don't yet know where he will lead us, but that also came to fruition.

Mostly? I think it's called instinct. As for your run-in with "W", I think it's entirely possible that your 'aura' of recent coversion was readily apparent. I don't know that GWB is purely evil of course, but as a practicing Mormon, one of the things we believe is that in these 'last days', there is a 'vast worldwide conspiracy, that seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands' (as prophesied by Joseph Smith) and that those who are involved KNOW what they do, and they also KNOW who they are and KNOW the role that they play. We call this conspiracy the "Gadianton Robbers" which is a direct offshoot of the brotherhood of Cain - those who will commit any and all acts up to and including murder for gain of power, influence, wealth, you name it, and is directly answerable to Satan himself. So if GWB was in fact a full-fledge participant in the doings of evil - it's entirely likely that he had the power to recognize the good in you and was taken aback by it. As you said - devils are extremely offended by the "light of Christ". As a recent 'convert' to Christ, that power of belief would have been much stronger in you than in others who are 'going through the motions".

Bottom line? This means you had more of the power of God on your side and evident in you that day than you ever realized. If it were me, that alone would be enough to allay my fears about the events of that day. YOU WERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
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My experience (as a Christian) with demon possessed people is that you get a very cold feeling within your body and especially up your spine when they are present. They kind of "set back" like they don't want to get to close to you. They try to give you this cold stare, as if to try and intimidate you. My reaction is to move closer to them. I like seeing them squirm. I want the Holy Spirit to reach out from within me a crush them in front of my face.

I knew a German Christian in Texas. He had been a major in the German army. He told me he once met Hitler. I asked him about that experience. He said Hitler had green eyes that appeared to look right through you and that you kind of stood there...kind of like paralyzed...like you described.
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Were you high on some drug?

Maybe he was shocked by your drug stupor?
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Well, as the child of a SS agent, your activities would have been monitored constantly by SS and the CIA for various reasons, such as to make certain no one uses YOU as a way to get to your father, who might then -for his family's sake- put the President in danger or worse.

Keeping with the monitoring aspect, everything you did, said, or, any place you went would have been KNOWN.

So, it is plausible that there was something you did or said that came to Bush's attention. At the time, he had two young daughters, who were party animals to a point. Before your conversion, is it possible that you may have innocently enough mentioned something about one of them to a friend, upon having learned that at the end of the year you would be having dinner at the White House? I am certain that such an invitation would have been known by Summer, before the events which led to your saving.

BTW, if you were saved, it seems plausible that your lifestyle prior to this saving may have been less than perfect, leading to your coming to Christ.

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The look that you describe on the President's face that night sounds very similar to the look that any father might give a young man who had an eye on his daughter....OR, from someone who has learned something questionable about a person they are about to meet.

I highly doubt that he saw Christ in your face. Rather, he was probably reacting to INTEL known about you, giving you a STERN look to let you know he was aware of something you did or said.

My uncle was a detective and my mom was an undercover police officer, both for NYPD, when I was growing up. The summer I was 19, I was on a local beach drinking; I came home sober before midnight. Still, my mother KNEW where I had been earlier that day. There were many other instances like this, where my activities were known and monitored. It was quite maddening.

As the son of a SS agent, I'm sure you got it worse.

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I think you can stop thinking about this now.

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