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Michio Kaku: 3 meltdowns in Fukushima, but uranium actually totally liquified… 1st time in history — “Reactor actually melted totally” (VIDEO)

 
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Any idea how hot they needed to get to vaporise?
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Any idea how hot they needed to get to vaporise?
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They already HAVE
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it means it will burn a hole through the earth's core and end up in China.
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Lol yea, because everyone knows if you drill a hole in Japan straight down until you reach the other end of the earth, you reach China, rofl
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I'm a black ops scientist and I certify this is a true.

In fact as Andrew Basiago stated about Project Pegasuses we have jump rooms to get you there but sometimes getting back through Pegasus didn't work, hense the term WORMHOLE .. any hole you ever dig end up in china. whether dug on earth, the moon or mars. : P
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What that means is more of a possibility that the entire melted core escaped the vessel.
The old Mark I reactors are moderated by control rods which are inserted through the bottom of the vessel.
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Now that would be one for the history books. China syndrom
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It must be under pressure in order for this to happen
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no, we're talking about uranium here. go back to class kiddo
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No he says we will get superpowers

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will it help in sex?
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No, but "Hot Plants" will. It is a natural, herbal supplement that I used for a few years back in the day. Look it up.
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hey, thanks alot- this site is so helpful
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Superpowers, indeed.... that is good stuff!!
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Is that bad?
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No he says we will get superpowers

5a
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Ha ...he also said it didn't blow up like Chernobyl when we all saw #3 blow.



I'm sure though the spent fuel rods and the explosion weren't really real though because Michio Kaku said so.
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Well the melting point of Uranium is about 2070F, the melting point of iron is 2800F. (Source google.) Like anything, it's all about potential energy. It must be under pressure in order for this to happen, and for the conduction of the heat energy to take place. Some alloys of bronze can get as high as 1700F for their melting point. So, it melting naturally isn't too far fetched given the right conditions. Meaning the vessel that's containing the Uranium is doing it's job containing the radiation. It's all about how much they rated the vessel for, and how much damage was done to it in the earth quake. If there are any weaknesses. It MIGHT explode due to the amount of energy stored. That would be a really bad thing. My only basis for this is the few chemistry classes I've taken, and what I know about objects under internal pressure.
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Lol, you must've majored in professional trolling/shill...

Three reactors china syndromed, aka 3 masses of corium HAVE burned themselves COMPLETELY THROUGH THE REACTOR CONTAINMENT, down into the ground itself. It's been sad tepco has been tracking the coriums on their path to the sea shelf, which is the reason why they went OUT TO SEA to concrete the ocean floor. Reactor three itself contained MOX, or mixed oxide fuels which contain both URANIUM AND PLUTONIUM, which as a fun fact of 1 pound was aerosolized and spread evenly throughout the atmosphere, would kill every single man, woman, and child on this earth. There were between 400-600 pounds in reactor three alone, which was the famous reactor that went "boom".

Is this serious? Yes.
Extinction Level Event type serious.
That's why you don't hear of it on the news. There's no stopping it. We've already been affected in the United States. It is an endgame scenario.
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Clearly no laughing matter folks...
A very good friend of mine worked on a farm when chernobyl blew... the following spring, during lambing season(location : Stonehaven, ne Scotland).
The amount of deformed lambs being born that year was VERY high. Even his cat had a litter of kittens which were deformed, none of them survived. I will spare you the gory details my friend recounted. I knew this guy since primary school,we were best friends, i grew up with him. I could see that the this experience scarred him for life.
I feel that what is about to ensue is far far worse. I had a vivid dream about Fukushima about 4 weeks ago, i put this down to a vid i watched on youtube previously...verysad
i spent most of my money on fast cars, booze and women, the rest i just squandered…
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What was that B.S. he was spewing about one(yes one) Tepco employee "disobeying" the orders to not flood with sea water? Some how this is what saved the day! That's all I could listen to so sorry if I missed. He was putting a rosy colored spin on it for sure.
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How bad is it?

Extremely bad.

All that Uranium and Plutonium has been released into our biosphere, planet earth.

What does it mean?

Higher cancer rates globally for a start and a whole bunch of other health problems and infant mortality.

Will it kill you today? Probably not but 5 years from now, 10, maybe.

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Ha ...he also said it didn't blow up like Chernobyl when we all saw #3 blow.

I'm sure though the spent fuel rods and the explosion weren't really real though because Michio Kaku said so.
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I'll go with this Professor of Physics before I'll take your word. Thanks!



on Jun 22, 2011

"They Lied To Us" Michio Kaku Blasts Japan, TEPCO & IAEA For Cover Up


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Well if everything melted downward, then maybe it's still going. China syndrome.
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Gravity disagrees.
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Well if everything melted downward, then maybe it's still going. China syndrome.
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Gravity disagrees.
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Level 8: Multi-source major nuclear accident requiring international assistance and monitoring

In the first hour, nuclear energy expert Scott Portzline talked about the shutdown at the San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant and related issues. According to Portzline, the San Onofre plant is at risk of a 'guillotine accident' in which a steam generator tube breaks, decapitates other tubes, that in turn cause even more steam generator tubes to rupture. If this happened, operators would have a difficult time maintaining control, he noted. Portzline disclosed that large amounts of radioactive tritium have been pumped into Lake Ontario by Canada's nuclear power stations. "Tritium is dangerous because it gets into the human system as water... [it] is coming out of all nuclear plants," he warned. Portzline also commented on how easy it is to sabotage nuclear power plants, spoke about the Fukushima disaster and how likely the total radiation release from that accident will exceed Chernobyl, and called for a new scale to measure nuclear incidents.

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Thread: Radio: Fukushima ranked Level 8 on newly developed nuclear scale, above Chernobyl (CHART)
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Even low-level radioactivity is damaging
Broad analysis of many radiation studies finds no exposure threshold that precludes harm to life


Even the very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life, scientists have concluded in the Cambridge Philosophical Society’s journal Biological Reviews. Reporting the results of a wide-ranging analysis of 46 peer-reviewed studies published over the past 40 years, researchers from the University of South Carolina and the University of Paris-Sud found that variation in low-level, natural background radiation had small, but highly statistically significant, negative effects on DNA as well as several measures of health.

The review is a meta-analysis of studies of locations around the globe that have very high natural background radiation as a result of the minerals in the ground there, including Ramsar, Iran, Mombasa, Kenya, Lodeve, France, and Yangjiang, China. These, and a few other geographic locations with natural background radiation that greatly exceeds normal amounts, have long drawn scientists intent on understanding the effects of radiation on life. Individual studies by themselves, however, have often only shown small effects on small populations from which conclusive statistical conclusions were difficult to draw.

“When you’re looking at such small effect sizes, the size of the population you need to study is huge,” said co-author Timothy Mousseau, a biologist in the College of Arts and Sciences at the University of South Carolina. “Pooling across multiple studies, in multiple areas, and in a rigorous statistical manner provides a tool to really get at these questions about low-level radiation.”

Mousseau and co-author Anders Møller of the University of Paris-Sud combed the scientific literature, examining more than 5,000 papers involving natural background radiation that were narrowed to 46 for quantitative comparison. The selected studies all examined both a control group and a more highly irradiated population and quantified the size of the radiation levels for each. Each paper also reported test statistics that allowed direct comparison between the studies.

The organisms studied included plants and animals, but had a large preponderance of human subjects. Each study examined one or more possible effects of radiation, such as DNA damage measured in the lab, prevalence of a disease such as Down’s Syndrome, or the sex ratio produced in offspring. For each effect, a statistical algorithm was used to generate a single value, the effect size, which could be compared across all the studies.

The scientists reported significant negative effects in a range of categories, including immunology, physiology, mutation and disease occurrence. The frequency of negative effects was beyond that of random chance.

“There’s been a sentiment in the community that because we don’t see obvious effects in some of these places, or that what we see tends to be small and localized, that maybe there aren’t any negative effects from low levels of radiation,” said Mousseau. “But when you do the meta-analysis, you do see significant negative effects.”

“It also provides evidence that there is no threshold below which there are no effects of radiation,” he added. “A theory that has been batted around a lot over the last couple of decades is the idea that is there a threshold of exposure below which there are no negative consequences. These data provide fairly strong evidence that there is no threshold – radiation effects are measurable as far down as you can go, given the statistical power you have at hand.”

Mousseau hopes their results, which are consistent with the “linear-no-threshold” model for radiation effects, will better inform the debate about exposure risks. “With the levels of contamination that we have seen as a result of nuclear power plants, especially in the past, and even as a result of Chernobyl and Fukushima and related accidents, there’s an attempt in the industry to downplay the doses that the populations are getting, because maybe it’s only one or two times beyond what is thought to be the natural background level,” he said. “But they’re assuming the natural background levels are fine.”

“And the truth is, if we see effects at these low levels, then we have to be thinking differently about how we develop regulations for exposures, and especially intentional exposures to populations, like the emissions from nuclear power plants, medical procedures, and even some x-ray machines at airports.”

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Thread: Scientists: “The very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life” — We have to rethink exposure levels from nuclear plants
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And so it begins ------>godzilla
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so when do we all die? Can't wait forever!
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What was that B.S. he was spewing about one(yes one) Tepco employee "disobeying" the orders to not flood with sea water? Some how this is what saved the day! That's all I could listen to so sorry if I missed. He was putting a rosy colored spin on it for sure.
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That's actually what happened..
He was the plant manager.

wink

[snip]

Yoshida knew that the reactor was vulnerable to seawater, and in the absence of emergency power or viable containment rods, that natural salty fluid was the only weapon he had. At the same time, he knew that the moment the reactor core came into contact with sea water, the plant itself would be effectively inoperable forever. His bosses at TEPCO ordered him to do nothing while they modeled the potential consequences of injecting seawater into the reactor core.

Yoshida and his workers figured out how to prevent backflow of seawater, but TEPCO still ordered him to wait on word from the prime minister. He ignored them, and on his order, decided to flood the bay.
Problem: Getting seawater into the core was impossible, or almost impossible, because of the debris and damage done by the earthquake and the flood. Fukishima workers began to use abandoned firefighting equipment to literally pump water in, just gallons at a time, equivalent to a dropper of ink in a well.



Giving thanks to a rebel
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Masao Yoshida, 55, was on watch.

He was Fukushima's plant manager, and he was among the 50-odd employees who stayed in the hot zone as radiation levels rose well above toxic levels. He was already a hero, although at that point only a foolish one. Yoshida knew that the reactor was vulnerable to sea-water, and in the absence of emergency power or viable containment rods, that natural salty fluid was the only weapon he had.

The world would learn later that his actions averted a complete meltdown and saved, potentially, tens of thousands of lives, many even a lot more.

Yoshida would learn later that he had cancer, apparently unconnected to the high levels of radiation he was exposed to. He retired in December of 2011. He is alive, and giving some interviews, but outside of Japan, his actions are not appreciated.
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You'll be interested to know

Brown’s Gas Neutralizes Radioactive Waste to Help Undo Nuclear Accidents

Watch Mark Porringa, former Chief Engineer at Chalk River, world’s largest nuclear research reactor, as he neutralizes Nuclear Waste.

Note that after the radiation reduction starts, Mark removes the Brown’s Gas flame and the radioactive waste continues to burn itself up… On the Geiger Counter notice the sensitivity setting after the burn is made at a more sensitive level than when you see during the first radiation reading.

Planetary Association for Clean Energy




and Yule Brown himself showing his work
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Well the melting point of Uranium is about 2070F, the melting point of iron is 2800F. (Source google.) Like anything, it's all about potential energy. It must be under pressure in order for this to happen, and for the conduction of the heat energy to take place. Some alloys of bronze can get as high as 1700F for their melting point. So, it melting naturally isn't too far fetched given the right conditions. Meaning the vessel that's containing the Uranium is doing it's job containing the radiation. It's all about how much they rated the vessel for, and how much damage was done to it in the earth quake. If there are any weaknesses. It MIGHT explode due to the amount of energy stored. That would be a really bad thing. My only basis for this is the few chemistry classes I've taken, and what I know about objects under internal pressure.
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Lol, you must've majored in professional trolling/shill...

Three reactors china syndromed, aka 3 masses of corium HAVE burned themselves COMPLETELY THROUGH THE REACTOR CONTAINMENT, down into the ground itself. It's been sad tepco has been tracking the coriums on their path to the sea shelf, which is the reason why they went OUT TO SEA to concrete the ocean floor. Reactor three itself contained MOX, or mixed oxide fuels which contain both URANIUM AND PLUTONIUM, which as a fun fact of 1 pound was aerosolized and spread evenly throughout the atmosphere, would kill every single man, woman, and child on this earth. There were between 400-600 pounds in reactor three alone, which was the famous reactor that went "boom".

Is this serious? Yes.
Extinction Level Event type serious.
That's why you don't hear of it on the news. There's no stopping it. We've already been affected in the United States. It is an endgame scenario.
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none have china'd yet. at this moment number 4 is a concern.
Escaping containment begins a China but Tepco keeps them flooded so they don't get to melt to the water table.
so far

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Fuck off michio Kaku haters
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Is that bad?
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No he says we will get superpowers

5a
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Ha ...he also said it didn't blow up like Chernobyl when we all saw #3 blow.



I'm sure though the spent fuel rods and the explosion weren't really real though because Michio Kaku said so.
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#3 was a hydrogen explosion. Chernobyl was graphite moderated - no water. So no, number 3 didn't blow like Chernobyl. Or more properly Chernobyl didn't blow like Fuku
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Well the melting point of Uranium is about 2070F, the melting point of iron is 2800F. (Source google.) Like anything, it's all about potential energy. It must be under pressure in order for this to happen, and for the conduction of the heat energy to take place. Some alloys of bronze can get as high as 1700F for their melting point. So, it melting naturally isn't too far fetched given the right conditions. Meaning the vessel that's containing the Uranium is doing it's job containing the radiation. It's all about how much they rated the vessel for, and how much damage was done to it in the earth quake. If there are any weaknesses. It MIGHT explode due to the amount of energy stored. That would be a really bad thing. My only basis for this is the few chemistry classes I've taken, and what I know about objects under internal pressure.
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Lol, you must've majored in professional trolling/shill...

Three reactors china syndromed, aka 3 masses of corium HAVE burned themselves COMPLETELY THROUGH THE REACTOR CONTAINMENT, down into the ground itself. It's been sad tepco has been tracking the coriums on their path to the sea shelf, which is the reason why they went OUT TO SEA to concrete the ocean floor. Reactor three itself contained MOX, or mixed oxide fuels which contain both URANIUM AND PLUTONIUM, which as a fun fact of 1 pound was aerosolized and spread evenly throughout the atmosphere, would kill every single man, woman, and child on this earth. There were between 400-600 pounds in reactor three alone, which was the famous reactor that went "boom".

Is this serious? Yes.
Extinction Level Event type serious.
That's why you don't hear of it on the news. There's no stopping it. We've already been affected in the United States. It is an endgame scenario.
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But that doesnt mean you should stop sending in your money so someone else can use it to survive this longer instead of you.
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Is that bad?
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No he says we will get superpowers

5a
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Ha ...he also said it didn't blow up like Chernobyl when we all saw #3 blow.



I'm sure though the spent fuel rods and the explosion weren't really real though because Michio Kaku said so.
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#3 was a hydrogen explosion. Chernobyl was graphite moderated - no water. So no, number 3 didn't blow like Chernobyl. Or more properly Chernobyl didn't blow like Fuku
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No water remainedat Fuku either, so
FAIL !

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