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If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...

 
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If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
which I don't?
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
Let's work, what does "Religion" mean for you?

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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
then you have to do it not because your goal is life eternal, but rather because you feel deeply that the Judgement to come is True and Perfect.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
Let's work, what does "Religion" mean for you?

One of humanity's problems is that words get corrupt over time.
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To me it means following a set of dogmatic rules. To me religion, especially christian related religions have been corrupted in some form. They are also hypocritical.

However Jesus teaching speak to me. They are simple and easy to understand and are just really common sense teachings.

I follow no religion but Jesus speaks to me. And besides I don't believe Jesus actually created Christianity.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
Believing in Jesus Christ is not a religion. It's a relationship. Catholicism is too ritualistic as with most religions. All Jesus Christ asks is that you trust in him and try to live a life of love just as he exemplified.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

Fail.
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wow! you are making a hell of progress to the pit
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Explain this relationship you share.
"Do not attempt to accomplish greater results by a greater effort of your little understanding, but by a greater understanding of your little effort. The greater your understanding of the power within yourself, the less effort you need to make in order to achieve.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
Believing in Jesus Christ is not a religion. It's a relationship. Catholicism is too ritualistic as with most religions. All Jesus Christ asks is that you trust in him and try to live a life of love just as he exemplified.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
Wrong. Jesus said on multiple occasions that God the Father (The Hebrew God) Decides who gets into the Pearly Gates.

Personally I don't want to keep company with a violent megalomaniac.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

Fail.
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wow! you are making a hell of progress to the pit
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You are already in the pit. Sit and think.
"Do not attempt to accomplish greater results by a greater effort of your little understanding, but by a greater understanding of your little effort. The greater your understanding of the power within yourself, the less effort you need to make in order to achieve.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I dislike the word Christian. To me it denotes some sort of fanaticism. I'm not a "Jesus Freak" either. I just think that Jesus was a good man who basically sent one simple message and that is to be good to eachother.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

Fail.
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wow! you are making a hell of progress to the pit
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Unlike you, I'm not a slave to fear.

I don't fear going to Hell (if it exists).

I'd rather go to "Hell" than worship a God who mass murders if you don't become his slave.

Thanks for your concern though.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

Fail.
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wow! you are making a hell of progress to the pit
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You are already in the pit. Sit and think.
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it is you how are behind in thinking,.. so, then, SIT, you, and think... long!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I dislike the word Christian. To me it denotes some sort of fanaticism. I'm not a "Jesus Freak" either. I just think that Jesus was a good man who basically sent one simple message and that is to be good to eachother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


Ok, but He was much more then just a "good man".




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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I dislike the word Christian. To me it denotes some sort of fanaticism. I'm not a "Jesus Freak" either. I just think that Jesus was a good man who basically sent one simple message and that is to be good to eachother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


Jesus. Is the SUN of god. I watch him walk on water every sunrise and sunset. mark, mathew, luke, and john. are the for seasons. Satan. Is originally called satin in greek satin is the name for saturn. The opposing force in our solar system he is also the last planet you can visibly see with the naked eye in the sky and quiet the opposite of our christ the sun.
"Do not attempt to accomplish greater results by a greater effort of your little understanding, but by a greater understanding of your little effort. The greater your understanding of the power within yourself, the less effort you need to make in order to achieve.
" - Walter Russell
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I dislike the word Christian. To me it denotes some sort of fanaticism. I'm not a "Jesus Freak" either. I just think that Jesus was a good man who basically sent one simple message and that is to be good to eachother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


Jesus. Is the SUN of god. I watch him walk on water every sunrise and sunset. mark, mathew, luke, and john. are the for seasons. Satan. Is originally called satin in greek satin is the name for saturn. The opposing force in our solar system he is also the last planet you can visibly see with the naked eye in the sky and quiet the opposite of our christ the sun.
"Do not attempt to accomplish greater results by a greater effort of your little understanding, but by a greater understanding of your little effort. The greater your understanding of the power within yourself, the less effort you need to make in order to achieve.
" - Walter Russell
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

Fail.
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wow! you are making a hell of progress to the pit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28264700


Unlike you, I'm not a slave to fear.

I don't fear going to Hell (if it exists).

I'd rather go to "Hell" than worship a God who mass murders if you don't become his slave.

Thanks for your concern though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


if you had read the thread,
you would have seen what I have said.
Look up, and read my posts above.
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No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Explain this relationship you share.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Faith, trust, love, obedience, admiration.

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
Let's work, what does "Religion" mean for you?

One of humanity's problems is that words get corrupt over time.
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To me it means following a set of dogmatic rules. To me religion, especially christian related religions have been corrupted in some form. They are also hypocritical.

However Jesus teaching speak to me. They are simple and easy to understand and are just really common sense teachings.

I follow no religion but Jesus speaks to me. And besides I don't believe Jesus actually created Christianity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


There. If it is something you don't agree with, there's no reason for calling it a religion.

I often think like that aswell, and I never said I followed a religion altough I do have my spiritual side and I study a lot.

The other day I was speaking to a woman and she gave me another view on the word "Religion"

It's "Religião" in portuguese.

"Religar" is a verb that means reconnect. Therefore "Religião" is something that reconnects you to the Lord, or to whatever you believe or call it.

(:

Words are not static you know, and words nowadays are corrupt. To change them and purify them is to do the work we are meant to do, simply in a different layer, purifying also our language.

From darkness to light (:
- ? Nus.

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By the way I also don't believe in the idea of going out and preaching the words of Jesus to the world. For me it's a very personal thing.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Well said, Lisa :-)

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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
By the way I also don't believe in going out and preaching to other people about Jesus. For me it's a very personal thing.
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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
I'm not arrogant enough to assume the nature of God.

And I'm not foolish enough to rely upon the words of man to enlighten me.

However, taking the God of the bible at face value clearly tells me it is not the type of God I want to be worshiping.

Unfortunately the Jesus of the bible chose the Hebrew God as his focus of worship.
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By the way I also don't believe in the idea of going out and preaching the words of Jesus to the world. For me it's a very personal thing.
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Please take a few minutes of your time to watch the videos I posted. One is the Messiah Test and the other is Who is Jesus?

God bless you OP.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28228780


No, it means that you have a relationship with the Lord.

The world would classify you as a "christian", but those labels don't mean much because it's just a word.

A relationship is so much more then a label, it's real love.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Well said, Lisa :-)

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Thanks buddy!

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Re: If I believe in Jesus and his teachings, which I do, does that mean I follow a religion...
But Jesus worshiped the violent Hebrew God of the Old Testament, who very clearly laid out a religion for his followers.

Fail.
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wow! you are making a hell of progress to the pit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28264700


You are already in the pit. Sit and think.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


it is you how are behind in thinking,.. so, then, SIT, you, and think... long!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28264700


You havn't the slightest idea of what you speak of. You have taken in others opinions your whole life shaping your originally pure mind. Do you think if their was a test in this world a test of faith a test to find the lord and choose good over evil that it would come so simple. You had the bible thrown into your lap. and all you have had to do is build a relationship in your head with something you call the lord. and attended church everyday. You read literally when the lord speaks in parables. He has warned you to watch out for wolves in sheep's clothing. yet you keep going to church and learn from a Shepard who tends to the lords flock.. hmmm.. Your missing the divine truth in the book the Christ is within..

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By the way I also don't believe in the idea of going out and preaching the words of Jesus to the world. For me it's a very personal thing.
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As well it should be. Words mean nothing if not accompanied by following them. You encourage others to join you through your example and your actions. As you know, there are many who do a lot of talking, but no walking.
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Its not a religion!

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Here's another one for you OP!


Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.

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