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Breaking: U.S. may recognize Palestinians at U.N. on November 29th

 
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When Obama personally gets involved in the Palestinian Israeli conflict know that the end has arrived.
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I knew that nothing good would come from Obummer's reelection !

It seems Hillary went to Jerusalem with a lot of threats in her bag and it seem like her intimidation tactics worked !

If Palestine is recognized at the UN then it's a whole new ball game in the middle east...Israel will really be on it's own !
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This thread is from 11-18 AND RELATES TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MOVE. Thread: I predict a massive escalation in the mideast, possibly WW3, by November 29th
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No big war will happen in the Mideast anymore forever. The start of Earth's Golden Age is almost near, weeks away. Wars will be a thing of the past on Earth after December 21 2012. If Israel misbehaves, ETs will whup their ass. Read here: [link to kauilapele.wordpress.com]

Message from Matthew 11-20-12…”High vibrations are overpowering the low vibrations of everything that has adversely affected life in your world”

"With loving greetings from all souls at this station, this is Matthew. You are physically and emotionally feeling the effects of energy surges more so than seeing their remarkable results. We are feeling and seeing the grand forward thrusts the surges have given the planet and most of its residents: Gaia, Earth’s soul, is joyous about her planetary body’s nearness to the threshold of fourth density; hope for better times is being restored within people whose living circumstances are desperate; and newly awakened souls are sparkling all over Earth.

A world full of other marvelous happenings is on the way, but in the days at hand, the in-pouring of high vibrations also is having some unwelcome effects, like the roiling intensity at the negative end of duality’s spectrum. Perhaps at this moment it is most noticeable in the tense Israeli-Palestinian confrontation. We hasten to assure you, the time for a full blown new war is past, today’s enemies will evolve into peaceful, cooperative relationships, and any country waging war against another will be unthinkable."
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I repeat, since Ascension to the 5th dimension is near, no wars will happen and be tolerated by the Galactic Allies. Israel will be stopped if it dares to start a big war. Time's up for wars, Earth has had enough of that. Israal has been warned, and if it still misbehaves, a devastating wave of energy will smite them from above.

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Could someone please explain to me just wtf is going on over there???

Palestine being admitted into the UN would be freaking MIND BLOWING.

Interesting how the MSM left that part of the story out of the news during the "Pillar" operation.

I can't believe tonight is the first I'm hearing about this! Seriously, please...someone...WTF is going on??!!!
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What exactly do they mean by "recognize"? As a national identity? I thought Yasser Arafat did that already, considering he recast "palistinians" and considering they didn't exist (as they do today) until he came along?

And given that the modern group or collective being called "Palestinians" don't meet the basic qualifications of nationhood (they, their phony gov't rather stock pile rockets than build a real government and take care of its own)... what does it matter? What does it change?

I should google that huh? I'll be honest, I never read the damn UN docs.. Agenda 21 freaked me out enough.
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When Obama personally gets involved in the Palestinian Israeli conflict know that the end has arrived.
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odance
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What's symbolic about the 11-29 date?
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Could someone please explain to me just wtf is going on over there???

Palestine being admitted into the UN would be freaking MIND BLOWING.

Interesting how the MSM left that part of the story out of the news during the "Pillar" operation.

I can't believe tonight is the first I'm hearing about this! Seriously, please...someone...WTF is going on??!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093


WTF is going on? Peace will reign on Earth forever. Wars will no longer happen, since we will ascend to 5th dimension-Earth will be full of Love and Light. Love and Light will overwhelm Israel's violent uncivilized barbarism.
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OP, what is your source????
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right here

US 'Strongly Opposes' Palestinian Move For Observer State Status At UN

The United States is strongly opposed to the Palestinian move for achieving Observer State status at the United Nations.

This was stated by U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice on Wednesday while coming out of a closed door meeting of the Security Council on Gaza.

[link to www.rttnews.com]
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Awesome.

Only a matter of time befor Palastine takes Isreal to court for war crimes.

clappa
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inyerdreams fool
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OP, what is your source????
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right here

US 'Strongly Opposes' Palestinian Move For Observer State Status At UN

The United States is strongly opposed to the Palestinian move for achieving Observer State status at the United Nations.

This was stated by U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice on Wednesday while coming out of a closed door meeting of the Security Council on Gaza.

[link to www.rttnews.com]
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Oh man, two conflicting stories. Figures!
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Could someone please explain to me just wtf is going on over there???

Palestine being admitted into the UN would be freaking MIND BLOWING.

Interesting how the MSM left that part of the story out of the news during the "Pillar" operation.

I can't believe tonight is the first I'm hearing about this! Seriously, please...someone...WTF is going on??!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093


WTF is going on? Peace will reign on Earth forever. Wars will no longer happen, since we will ascend to 5th dimension-Earth will be full of Love and Light. Love and Light will overwhelm Israel's violent uncivilized barbarism.
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


I want to believe you. I really want to believe what you say, but after all the disappointment and misery of dreadful world, I hope you'll understand my cynicism...
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Could someone please explain to me just wtf is going on over there???

Palestine being admitted into the UN would be freaking MIND BLOWING.

Interesting how the MSM left that part of the story out of the news during the "Pillar" operation.

I can't believe tonight is the first I'm hearing about this! Seriously, please...someone...WTF is going on??!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093


WTF is going on? Peace will reign on Earth forever. Wars will no longer happen, since we will ascend to 5th dimension-Earth will be full of Love and Light. Love and Light will overwhelm Israel's violent uncivilized barbarism.
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


what gibberish r u talkin?
oh yeah the pure gibberish type gibberish
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This thread is from 11-18 AND RELATES TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MOVE. Thread: I predict a massive escalation in the mideast, possibly WW3, by November 29th
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17346821


No big war will happen in the Mideast anymore forever. The start of Earth's Golden Age is almost near, weeks away. Wars will be a thing of the past on Earth after December 21 2012. If Israel misbehaves, ETs will whup their ass. Read here: [link to kauilapele.wordpress.com]

Message from Matthew 11-20-12…”High vibrations are overpowering the low vibrations of everything that has adversely affected life in your world”

"With loving greetings from all souls at this station, this is Matthew. You are physically and emotionally feeling the effects of energy surges more so than seeing their remarkable results. We are feeling and seeing the grand forward thrusts the surges have given the planet and most of its residents: Gaia, Earth’s soul, is joyous about her planetary body’s nearness to the threshold of fourth density; hope for better times is being restored within people whose living circumstances are desperate; and newly awakened souls are sparkling all over Earth.

A world full of other marvelous happenings is on the way, but in the days at hand, the in-pouring of high vibrations also is having some unwelcome effects, like the roiling intensity at the negative end of duality’s spectrum. Perhaps at this moment it is most noticeable in the tense Israeli-Palestinian confrontation. We hasten to assure you, the time for a full blown new war is past, today’s enemies will evolve into peaceful, cooperative relationships, and any country waging war against another will be unthinkable."
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So you are a galactic federation of lighttard ??
And your online contact is the galactic federation channeling website ?
peace
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Could someone please explain to me just wtf is going on over there???

Palestine being admitted into the UN would be freaking MIND BLOWING.

Interesting how the MSM left that part of the story out of the news during the "Pillar" operation.

I can't believe tonight is the first I'm hearing about this! Seriously, please...someone...WTF is going on??!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093


WTF is going on? Peace will reign on Earth forever. Wars will no longer happen, since we will ascend to 5th dimension-Earth will be full of Love and Light. Love and Light will overwhelm Israel's violent uncivilized barbarism.
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


what gibberish r u talkin?
oh yeah the pure gibberish type gibberish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3777004


It's not gibberish...if everyone ACTIVELY chose life instead of choosing death by default (by doing nothing to improve themselves), we could "ascend" to a new golden age tomorrow, without help from the solar system or galaxy or whatever.

I say there's not enough people doing their part!
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According to the text in this link the U.S. wants a viable independent palestinian state? [link to www.rttnews.com]
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Could someone please explain to me just wtf is going on over there???

Palestine being admitted into the UN would be freaking MIND BLOWING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093


It would also force Israel into a position of having to defend itself again. Israel can not afford to just sit back and take this kind of provocation lying down. The fakestinians have been warned many times not to take such action and that a two state solution can ONLY be worked out through direct negotions with the Jewish state. By taking unilateral action, the fakestinians are ONCE AGAIN provoking a war with Israel.
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OP, what is your source????
 Quoting: S.O.S.


right here

US 'Strongly Opposes' Palestinian Move For Observer State Status At UN

The United States is strongly opposed to the Palestinian move for achieving Observer State status at the United Nations.

This was stated by U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice on Wednesday while coming out of a closed door meeting of the Security Council on Gaza.

[link to www.rttnews.com]
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Oh man, two conflicting stories. Figures!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093




Clinton returned to Jerusalem from Ramallah and met again with Netanyahu, Barak and Lieberman. The Palestinian UN bid also came up at this meeting. Clinton told Netanyahu he should examine how to strengthen Abbas now, especially after the operation in Gaza, which brought about the strengthening of Hamas among the Palestinian public.

Two senior Israeli officials and an American official, who asked to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the subject, said the American message to Israel was not to take any irreversible actions and to act wisely the day after the UN vote.

The Obama administration thinks it is necessary to try and minimize the potential damage of the Palestinian move in the UN, said the U.S. official. Extreme acts by Israel the day after will not help, they will only make the situation worse, he added.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Palestinians Defy Obama With UN ‘Observer State’ Bid

By Flavia Krause-Jackson - Nov 8, 2012

Palestinians defied newly re-elected U.S. President Barack Obama by pushing ahead with a second statehood bid at the United Nations that will raise their profile at the world body and highlight the stagnation of the Mideast peace process.

As for the U.S., the administration’s position hasn’t wavered. The U.S. ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, has said repeatedly that “unilateral actions,” such as the upgrade of the Palestinians’ UN status, would only derail efforts to restart direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.
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Most orthadox Jews also want expansion. They believe all of occupied territories belong to them. They are a growing population. Most orthodox Jews have 5 to 6 kids. Eventually, they will need more room.
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5 to 6 kids, in Israel? I'd heard that the "Palestinians" were out-breeding the Israelis, and that demographic problem posed another threat to the state of Israel.
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Awesome.

Only a matter of time befor Palastine takes Isreal to court for war crimes.

clappa
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inyerdreams fool
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it will be reality because the world is sick and tired of Israelis warmongering shit.
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Palestinians Defy Obama With UN ‘Observer State’ Bid

By Flavia Krause-Jackson - Nov 8, 2012

Palestinians defied newly re-elected U.S. President Barack Obama by pushing ahead with a second statehood bid at the United Nations that will raise their profile at the world body and highlight the stagnation of the Mideast peace process.

As for the U.S., the administration’s position hasn’t wavered. The U.S. ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, has said repeatedly that “unilateral actions,” such as the upgrade of the Palestinians’ UN status, would only derail efforts to restart direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.
[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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So why are we getting two completely opposed positions from the same country??
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The Obama administration thinks it is necessary to try and minimize the potential damage of the Palestinian move in the UN, said the U.S. official. Extreme acts by Israel the day after will not help, they will only make the situation worse, he added.
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Well, in that case, ONCE AGAIN, Israel will have NO CHIOCE but to take whatever action is necessary to defend itself. I think Israel should send one of their operatives into Gaza and fire a few rockets into Israel. That way Israel can blame the fakestinians for breaking the cease fire and retaliate with overwhelming military force, and prevent the fakestinian delegation from traveling to the UN.
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whaaa.....no doom?
wtf
dcomp
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Awesome.

Only a matter of time befor Palastine takes Isreal to court for war crimes.

clappa
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inyerdreams fool
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it will be reality because the world is sick and tired of Israelis warmongering shit.
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I'll be honest, I'm getting pretty sick and tired of BOTH of them!

I didn't realize so many people had so many dogs in this fight.

Conditioning. It's fucking pathetic.
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OP, what is your source????
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right here

US 'Strongly Opposes' Palestinian Move For Observer State Status At UN

The United States is strongly opposed to the Palestinian move for achieving Observer State status at the United Nations.

This was stated by U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice on Wednesday while coming out of a closed door meeting of the Security Council on Gaza.

[link to www.rttnews.com]
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Oh man, two conflicting stories. Figures!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24883093




Clinton returned to Jerusalem from Ramallah and met again with Netanyahu, Barak and Lieberman. The Palestinian UN bid also came up at this meeting. Clinton told Netanyahu he should examine how to strengthen Abbas now, especially after the operation in Gaza, which brought about the strengthening of Hamas among the Palestinian public.

Two senior Israeli officials and an American official, who asked to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the subject, said the American message to Israel was not to take any irreversible actions and to act wisely the day after the UN vote.

The Obama administration thinks it is necessary to try and minimize the potential damage of the Palestinian move in the UN, said the U.S. official. Extreme acts by Israel the day after will not help, they will only make the situation worse, he added.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Link {corrected} [link to www.haaretz.com] you need to sign up to read the article, first 10 no supscription
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ADL Urges European Foreign Ministers To Oppose Palestinian Initiative At The U.N.

New York, NY, November 6, 2012 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today called on European foreign ministers to oppose a Palestinian campaign to receive an upgraded status of "observer state" at the United Nations and to urge the Palestinian Authority to resume negotiations with Israel.

"We share the belief that peace can best be achieved through bilateral, direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians on all final status issues," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "Recognition of Palestinian statehood by the U.N. General Assembly will create numerous and serious obstacles to a resumption of bilateral negotiations. This campaign has the potential to increase the chances of an outbreak of violence, harming the Palestinians themselves, the economic gains they have made, and further eroding Israeli confidence that they have a partner for negotiations."
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Sounds like this is a done deal.

Obama could not talk them out of it. They are going for it. I don't blame them to take this time to do it. The world appears to be on their side. At least it appears they have enough votes.

The U.S. won't stop it. The U.S. does not like it. But, they won't stop it. Not this time.

The pieces are being placed for the next phase of the war.

Israel will have to make some very tough decisions.

We will know in one week. 11/29 fast approaches. Very fast.
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It will have no effect on the daily lives of the Palestinians, Israhell will never end the siege-occupation, never mind the 400k lunatic settlers squatting in W/B. IT will all be symbolic of anything.
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If the Palestinians pursue the Nov. 29 bid, in which they said they plan to ask the United Nations for upgraded status, Israel will take severe action that will "upturn every future arrangement that would have been considered acceptable by Israel completely impossible," Haaretz said.


"A reality in which the United Nations recognizes a Palestinian state according to a unilateral process will destroy all Israeli deterrence and completely harm its credibility," the document states.

Israeli officials say the U.N. move violates the Oslo accords. They also fear the Palestinians might move to expel Jews from the West Bank settlements if the U.N. vote goes their way.

In an interview with Israel Radio, Environmental Protection Minister Gilad Erdan said Israel should pre-emptively annex the settlements.



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Israhell annexation of the illegal settlements a monkey wrench. least say they do that annexation: what will the Palestinians gain for all this BS?

Israhell is a dark power, knows no peace, nor can it survive on any peaceful outcome.
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The Palestinian could join the Law of the Sea Treaty and effectively end Israel’s blockade.

The Treaty also gives the Palestinians full sovereign rights over its airspace. The Palestinians could bring claims of violation of its airspace to the International Court of Justice.

siren2

The Palestinian authority also could dispute Israel’s claim on a gas field near Gaza at the International Court of Justice.

More troubling for Israel and the U.S. would be the Palestinian territories joining the International Criminal Court.

Abbas Zaki, member of the Fatah Central Committee, said Thursday that once the status of a Palestinian state is upgraded, the Palestinians would be able to pursue Israel for “war crimes” in the International Criminal Court. “Once we become a recognized state, we will go to all UN agencies to force the international community to take legal action against Israel,” Zaki told the London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper.

He said that the Palestinian Authority would consider itself free of all its commitments under the agreements signed with Israel, including economic and security obligations.

The same U.N. that acted to set up Israel in 1947 is now taking steps dismantle that decision of 65 years ago and to further divide the land.





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