Breaking: U.S. may recognize Palestinians at U.N. on November 29th

AntiChrist...Sampson Option...Gods chosen people

LOL what?

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Returns from WHERE? When is he returning? Why did he leave in the first place and why did he stay away for so long? Sets up his "kingdom"??? What the fuck is that? Doesn't the US oppose rule by monarchy? He never had a "kingdom" on earth before, so what makes you think he can instantly create one now???

I could argue every single point you just made.

1) Selfishness ALWAYS has an opportunity to come back, no matter how much you think you've killed it.
2) Make fire come down from heaven--I'm too tired to answer that one
3) Tell me something like winning the lottery isn't a "miracle" to some
4) Materialism is the supreme blasphemy against God
5) Materialism chases and stalks everyone (Christians aren't so special here). It will lead to death if you subscribe to it.
6) buy and sell - res ispa loquitor
7) Statues/art all communicate something to the observer. "Speaking" doesn't have to be taken literally. Revelation basically says in the first paragraph that the entire story is a parable!
8) Agents working for materialism sign treaties all the time.

Again, this is just my interpretation.

But like I said before, since EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN is already looking out for some dude that's going to make statues talk, DO YOU REALLY THING THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN?

If this guy really is a deceiver, do you really think he's going to perform these "miracles" hoping the christians accidentally missed these descriptions, or they'll think nothing of a guy who can make statues speak?

He's not going to give you a blueprint if he's trying to deceive you! Thank about it!

Plain and simple is good, with that in mind do you have trouble understanding these explanations?

Da:7:16-27:
I came near unto one of them that stood by,
and asked him the truth of all this.
So he told me,
and made me know the interpretation of the things.
These great beasts,
which are four,
are four kings,
which shall arise out of the earth.
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom,
and possess the kingdom for ever,
even for ever and ever.
Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast,
which was diverse from all the others,
exceeding dreadful,
whose teeth were of iron,
and his nails of brass;
which devoured,
brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with his feet;
And of the ten horns that were in his head,
and of the other which came up,
and before whom three fell;
even of that horn that had eyes,
and a mouth that spake very great things,
whose look was more stout than his fellows.
I beheld,
and the same horn made war with the saints,
and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came,
and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Thus he said,
The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,
which shall be diverse from all kingdoms,
and shall devour the whole earth,
and shall tread it down,
and break it in pieces.
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise:
and another shall rise after them;
and he shall be diverse from the first,
and he shall subdue three kings.
And he shall speak great words against the most High,
and shall wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
But the judgment shall sit,
and they shall take away his dominion,
to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
And the kingdom and dominion,
and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven,
shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High,
whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Re:17:7-18:
And the angel said unto me,
Wherefore didst thou marvel?
I will tell thee the mystery of the woman,
and of the beast that carrieth her,
which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
The beast that thou sawest was,
and is not;
and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit,
and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder,
whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,
when they behold the beast that was,
and is not,
and yet is.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.
The seven heads are seven mountains,
on which the woman sitteth.
And there are seven kings: five are fallen,
and one is, and the other is not yet come;
and when he cometh,
he must continue a short space.
And the beast that was,
and is not,
even he is the eighth,
and is of the seven,
and goeth into perdition.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
These have one mind,
and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
These shall make war with the Lamb,
and the Lamb shall overcome them:
for he is Lord of lords,
and King of kings:
and they that are with him are called,
and chosen,
and faithful.
And he saith unto me,
The waters which thou sawest,
where the whore sitteth,
are peoples,
and multitudes,
and nations,
and tongues.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,
these shall hate the whore,
and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh,
and burn her with fire.
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will,
and to agree,
and give their kingdom unto the beast,
until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city,
which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


No matter what you thought of the previous verses verses in those chapters if you re-read it with the explanations in the back of your mind the verses are not very cryptic at all. Read all the relative passages and the picture is so clear if you don't have a strong stomach you will be gagging in places (there is cure for that)

From heaven... Read Acts 1:9-11
Acts 1:9-11
King James Version (KJV)

9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

He went to prepare a place for us:

John 14
King James Version (KJV)

14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I'll be the first to admit that I DO have trouble understanding all of that. Clearly, there is SOMETHING to the story that's so important, the author chose to protect its message by encoding it.

The problem is, I don't have the keys to decoding it, and I don't know of anyone who does!

Seriously, these aren't ALL of John's ideas. The creature with the head of a lion, ox, man and eagle are first described in Ezekiel.

What does it mean?

$100 to the guy who knows exactly what was in the author's mind at the time of the writing...

Actually since 1/3 of all Gentiles survive all 3 woes it would seem that the prayer advice in Da:4:30 is actually meant for any Gentile during the trumps, especially the 5th and 6th ones. They would also be part of the last woman in Re:12 along with the 144,000 from the 12 Tribes. The 'remnant' that Satan and the Beast go to war with are just the two witnesses, the only power Jesus has, or needs as they have Moses like abilities and they can see everything on earth and they will be able to hear prayers and act on them, fulfill the sincere ones (for safety not lottery tickets) The time, times, and half a time is a direct reference to them being dead for the 3 1/2 days. (Da:7:25:)

You'd be argueing against this, not me.
Revelation 13
King James Version (KJV) and 'your interpretation of what?... you didn't site any scripture which is the very source of all this 'antichrist' information.

13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

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@AC


God's Law decrees the death penalty for some crimes.

God's Law does NOT decree prison punishment for any crime.


Apocatastasis [universal salvation/reconciliation] is heresy.



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God gave us the blueprint... it's called the Bible, God's Holy Word so if we study it with the Holy Spirit's help, WE WON'T BE DECEIVED... That's the idea behind Jesus giving us HIS Revelation thru John!

What's your point? Are you jewish and do you reject Jesus as messiah like most Jews ? Or are you one of those 'jew' haters who equates all jews with the zionist jewish bankers?

Holy Word Walls, Batman!

Geeze.

AMEN!

Best reply ever!

Dan.7:25 .. the 'they' who are given into his hands for 42 mo. are the 'saints' of verse 7:18, anyone who isn't part of the 144,000jews who have the mark that protects them so yeah that would be any gentile who comes to faith during the trib... if I understood what you're saying?

lol, I know but they're relevant...answering direct questions.

...saying the US "May" recognize is the same as "May Not"...it's a false headline or at best a misleading one..Nothing happened so it's not breaking, it's presumptive, a guess..not a fact and maybe isn't news...IF the US does recognize a absolute area,Lat/Long coordinates, as being the state of Palestine...that's breaking news... saying the Palestine People deserve a homeland etc etc...that's a restatement of US Policy,not really news.

Saith who??

God said?

the broken record don`t play no more.

freedom from religion
is TRUE FREEDOM

we are sick of allowing religion to dictate our lives

Still it should be a bit apparent that with some study and some more material another understanding is more than possible, one that is plain and simple from the start once you have a few solid example of what some terms mean.

The NT is the key, Revelation mentions many thing that can be meshed with the OT, Daniel and the Iron/clay is just the 5th and 6th trumps.

The beast description is a perfect example, back in Ge:1 there are a few verses that say 'after their kind' and everybody things of just them rather than what the first pair w2as based off of. If the beasts were the 'seed' then there were 4 st start things going. Another aspect is that all their seed that has lived and died on this earth will be restored to life for the new earth. After the feast for the birds and animals associated with His return they die and are missing for the whole 1,000 years, had any been alive on the day Satan is sent to the lake God would also have to send them there as the men are taken off the world and taken to the GWT, a place that only beings with knowledge of good and evil can enter, that leaves out all flesh except man so God has them 'missing' and the new earth see all that life come back making this earth a seed bank for the next earth. Strange as that sounds it is better than God not bringing them back and them still being 'children' of the 4 beasts. (face like a man are primates)

The Ezekiel beasts are the same ones as in Re:4, they would also likely make sounds as new flesh is born and another one when that same being dies, like the sparrows.

Lu:3:6:
And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

1Co:15:39:
All flesh is not the same flesh:
but there is one kind of flesh of men,
another flesh of beasts,
another of fishes,
and another of birds.

Ho:2:18:
And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field,
and with the fowls of heaven,
and with the creeping things of the ground:
and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth,
and will make them to lie down safely.


Ho:4:1:
Hear the word of the LORD,
ye children of Israel:
for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land,
because there is no truth,
nor mercy,
nor knowledge of God in the land.
Ho:4:2:
By swearing,
and lying,
and killing,
and stealing,
and committing adultery,
they break out,
and blood toucheth blood.
Ho:4:3:
Therefore shall the land mourn,
and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish,
with the beasts of the field,
and with the fowls of heaven;
yea,
the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

M't:10:29:
Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing?
and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

Hope that helps, spooky that you offered the same amount I'n going to have to borrow for a few days to make rent. lol

Last Edited by MHz on 11/23/2012 02:37 AM

Just what do you find so demanding?

Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:

Jas:2:14:
What doth it profit,
my brethren,
though a man say he hath faith,
and have not works?
can faith save him?
Jas:2:15:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
Jas:2:16:
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Jas:2:17:
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead, being alone.

Know of any Nations on earth that has a shorter list?

No, God gave us the Qur'an, the bible is the devils handy work!

That 'broken recored' has a PERFECT TRACK RECORD OF FULFILLING PROPHECY

Yeah, God said.... remember him... your creator... the one who formed you in your mother's womb... He loves you... you need to listen to his word

It's not about 'religion', it's about allowing his son to transform your wayward heart from rebellion to reverence.

I can tell you .....I,will get ridiculed for it but its the truth




Re:17:7-18:
And the angel said unto me,
Wherefore didst thou marvel?
I will tell thee the mystery of the woman,
and of the beast that carrieth her,
which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
The beast that thou sawest was,
and is not;
and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit,
and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder,
whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,
when they behold the beast that was,
and is not,
and yet is.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.
The seven heads are seven mountains, ....THIS IS THE SEVEN HILLS OF ROME....A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WILL VERIFY THAT ROME SITS ON SEVEN HILLS

on which the woman sitteth....IN BIBLE PROPHECY THE WOMAN ALWAYS REFERS TO A CHURCH....THE CHURCH THAT SITS ON THE SEVEN HILLS OF ROME IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH


And there are seven kings: five are fallen, ....THE SEVEN KINGS REPRESENTS SEVEN EARTHLY KINGDOMS....EGYPT,BABYLON PERSIA ,GREECE ,ROME
and one is, and the other is not yet come; ....ROME IS THE "ONE IS" BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY KINGDOM STILL IN POWER AT THE TIME OF THIS PROPHECY.....THE ONE THAT IS TO COME IS THE UNITED STATES


and when he cometh,
he must continue a short space.......AGAIN THIS IS THE UNITED STATES...SHE WILL ONLY CONTINUE A SHORT SPACE ...WE HAVE ONLY BEEN A NATION FOR A SHORT TIME IN THE BIG PICTURE


And the beast that was, ........BABYLON
and is not, ....BABYLON WASN'T A NATION ANYMORE AT THE TIME,OF THIS PROHECY


even he is the eighth, ......MYSTERY BABYLON, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
and is of the seven, .....MYSTERY BABLON , IS OF THE SEVEN , THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.....SHE IS ROME YET SHE HAS THE PAGAN RELIGION OF ANCIENT BABYLON DISGUISED AS CHRISTIANITY ....THIS IS THE REASON SHE IS A MYSTERY

and goeth into perdition......THE ANTICHRIST BEAST SYSTEM


And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, ......NOT SURE WHOSE THESE ARE BUT IM PRETTY SURE THAT THIS EURASIAN UNION THAT IS TO START IN 2015 .....THE UNION WILL USE RUSSIAN MONEY AND RUSSIA WILL BE ITS DEFACTO LEADER ...AS OF RIGHT NOW THEY ARE STILL NEGOTIATING WHICH MEMBERS WILL JOIN THIS UNION....DON'T BE SURPRISED IF ITS ENDS UP BEING 10.....YOU CAN GOOGLE EURASIAN UNION AND READ ABOUT IT


which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

THIS 10 NATION UNION WILL JOIN THE ANTICHRIST SYSTEM AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
These have one mind,
and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
These shall make war with the Lamb, ....THE ANTICHRIST ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL GET THE NATIONS OFTHE EQRTH TO PASS LAWS THAT CHURCH GOERS ONLY ATTEND CHURCH'S THAT HAVE ENTER INTO THE ONE WORLD RELIGIOUS SYSTEM THAT WILL COME TO PASS.....MANY PROTESTANT DENOMINATIONS WILL JOIN THIS SYSTEM .....INFACT IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN ...IT CALL THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES AND ONE DAY IT WILL BE ILLEGAL TO WORHSHIP IN NONAFFILIATED CHURCHES


and the Lamb shall overcome them:
for he is Lord of lords,
and King of kings:
and they that are with him are called,
and chosen,
and faithful.
And he saith unto me,
The waters which thou sawest, .....THE WATERS YOU SEE HERE EXPLAINED IN SCRIPTURE BELOW
where the whore sitteth,
are peoples,
and multitudes,
and nations,
and tongues.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, ......POSSIBLY THE EURASIAN UNION LEAD BY RUSSIA
these shall hate the whore, ....THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DOES SOMETHING THAT RUSSIA BELIEVES IS A PROVACATION TOWARDS THEM
and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh,
and burn her with fire.......RUSSIA WILL NUKE VATICAN CITY
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will,
and to agree,
and give their kingdom unto the beast,
until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city,

Last Edited by Simple_Man on 11/23/2012 02:51 AM

Ok. I just kind of panic whenever I see the walls of bible text. I'll attempt to fumble through them.

A penumbral lunar eclipse will take place on November 28, 2012, the second of two lunar eclipses in 2012.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Well i'll pray that as you fumble through them, the Holy Spirit will make them clear, I know he will.

That would be their resurrection day where they rise as far as the clouds and there they meet all the ones named in the Bible that lost their lives by being killed rather than by old age. Just like the metal statue in Da:2 is a prophecy (rather than and event) the book of Daniel goes on to give more details about each kingdom. Neb has a chapter, the silver has two chapters, the brass is Da:8 (includes Rome)and the iron/clay (3 1/2 years and matching just the 5th and 6th trumps in Re:9)is mostly in Da:11 (a few exceptions)

This next verse also fits just them as 'the last woman' in Re:12 is the 144,000 as well as some Gentiles as when the 7th trump sounds 1/3 of the living survive the 7 vials (Church) and 2/3 of the world die as sinners, all on the same afternoon) With just those two having power the verse below must be referencing them. Their ministry starts 4 days before the 5th trump sounds because when that one sounds the Beast makes his appearance and the start of the 42 months he has starts to unwind. $ days after he kills them they are resurrected and that day is the last day of the beast's 42 months so it turns out that God allows fallen angels that short window to turn Jerusalem into Satan's Babylon where a throne (the image in Re:13 and the abomination in Da:11 is Satan demanding worship taht is only for the God of the Bible.

Da:11:32:
And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries:
but the people that do know their God shall be strong,
and do exploits.

Da:11:31:
And arms shall stand on his part,
and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,
and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

M't:24:15:
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

2Th:2:4:
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.

Last Edited by MHz on 11/23/2012 02:58 AM

All the nations are against Judah and Yerushalayim and are in a seige against her. Zechariah 12:2

The children also of Judah and the children of Yerushalayim have you sold unto the Greeks, that you might remove them far from their border. Joel 3:6

Greeks, origin modern democracy, Decide by Voting

11/29/2012 U.N. Vote to Part His Land

Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, Joel 3:9

Red Horse of Rev 6:4

[link to www.haaretz.com]

The Palestinians are planning to ask the United Nations General Assembly to vote on upgrading its status from non-member entity on the symbolic date of November 29.

By Barak Ravid| Nov 23, 2012 | 01:05 AM

I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of YAH Judges, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My land

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